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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
948
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:09:00 -
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nuff said.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1713
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:10:00 -
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I'm not so sure
Crush them
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
948
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:13:00 -
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everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid
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Valor Goat
128
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:19:00 -
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inb4primagallicusfags
1EE7
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thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
150
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:20:00 -
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Noted. Scans hurt more then bullets |
All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
122
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:25:00 -
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*owns 5 people in a row* you have been scanned. **** -_- Random Redberry (Milita assault rifle) All Gucci.....
Director / Slayer / Emperor
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hfderrtgvcd
1807
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:25:00 -
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team scans need to be removed asap. Unless you're a gal or amarr scout you're ****** if even one guy on the other team is a gal logi.
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2992
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:30:00 -
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Damped Amarr/Gal scout is my only answer to the scanner problem. |
shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
3840
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:34:00 -
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Run less >> damp Moar
Tank less >> damp Moar
Pronounced Scam - man - hoga
Minmatar omni-merc
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1714
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:36:00 -
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Just build a suit without ewar. When you can't beat em anyway why try. Have a speed or brick for the occasion.
Crush them
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
221
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:36:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid
It's logical.
A gallogi can scan almost everything.
It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan.
AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!)
AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi.
A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same.
So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly...
Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp.
For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic.
I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:38:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic.
what if you're an assault or logistics suit? And by carrying more than one scanner the gallogi can have scans up basically permanently.
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
950
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:41:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic.
uh no its stupid. scans are so scrubby, ive never skilled into scans because i dont need them, how about this passive scans are shared with the team not the gallogi scans.
scans take no skill.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1715
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:45:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic. uh no its stupid. scans are so scrubby, ive never skilled into scans because i dont need them, how about this passive scans are shared with the team not the gallogi scans. scans take no skill.
But camping a cru does. I've seen you around.
Crush them
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
301
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:47:00 -
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Active scanners are the worst thing they ever added to this game. 2 on a gal logi and your squad has permanent wallhack but i guess theres no turning back now
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
387
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:56:00 -
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lol poor logis, it's bad enough logis are already everyones favorite target, and now you've got Saxon hunting you. lmao
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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danthrax martin
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
282
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:56:00 -
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If proto squads are running in pubs, I use them. A gallogi with multiple scanners.
Kinda sucks though when the blueberries see the reds, turn and run half the time.
Pro Gal 'mando, Assault, Scout, Pro Sentinel ak.0
Suicidal A/V Moron
General pain in the @ss
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
222
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:59:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic. uh no its stupid. scans are so scrubby, ive never skilled into scans because i dont need them, how about this passive scans are shared with the team not the gallogi scans. scans take no skill.
Scan take no skill, but without gallogi it's useless... (almost)
I suppose you don't need scanner to kill people 
But scanner is a team equipment. An alone gallogi - even with 4 scanners - are useless and will probaly died quickly...
For me it's better the active scnner than the passive scan. Why ?
Because that wasn't normal people were abble to scan everyone without doing anything...... You were able to scan and kill sommeone at the same time (!)
Now with active scanner you can't do that.
I... really don't know....
For me active scanners are very balanced... To be usefull you have to use proto scanner with the gallogi lvl 5... That's not nothing guys...
I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.
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Varoth Drac
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
550
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:59:00 -
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3 damps on an assault will hide you from Gal scans. 2 damps on a scout, unless they are Gal or Cal who need 1.
Not counting focussed scans, which aren't too bad due to their drawbacks.
So it is possible to avoid them.
However they should make using active scanners reveal your position to the enemy. Therefore an interesting counter would be to send a damped scout out to assassinate him/her. |
RayRay James
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
928
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:59:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid
So a proto logi with one proto scanner can scan everything, and this is a problem why?
If you use any scanner other than that one particular one, people can get beneath your dB. You complain about a gallogi using more than one scanner, but to do so he removes capability in other areas.
Sax, I have a decent amount of respect for you, but this is unreasonable. Everything in this game has a counter, just as it should. |
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Valor Goat
129
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:00:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic.
Cavani1EE7 wrote:
inb4primagallicusfags
1EE7
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
952
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:01:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:
But camping a cru does. I've seen you around.
your point is>?
80% of the playerbase camps cru's, jees
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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Big Burns
Dem Durrty Boyz
General Tso's Alliance
369
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:03:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid
Yea, because it's so easy to get scans like that. Like 2.5mil SP for proto Gal logi, and another 700k SP for the Duvolle focused. Not to mention 57k isk for the suit and another like 28k isk for the scanner. Pssst. Get outta here.
I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
952
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:03:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid So a proto logi with one proto scanner can scan everything, and this is a problem why? If you use any scanner other than that one particular one, people can get beneath your dB. You complain about a gallogi using more than one scanner, but to do so he removes capability in other areas. Sax, I have a decent amount of respect for you, but this is unreasonable. Everything in this game has a counter, just as it should.
im sorry but perma scans are rediculous, i love to flank teams, but theres no flanking when being permascanned.
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Sinboto Simmons
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
7404
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:03:00 -
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I don't know why, but I really want to know what's under that censored text......
It's really bugging me.
Anyway, scanners do what scanners do, don't hate on it for being useful man. 
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2
Born of the Brutor tribe
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
1163
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:04:00 -
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Scans are broken? LMFAO. Only one scanner can scan scouts and its a horrible scanner. With 4 fitted, it still shows less than 30 secs worth of scan. With 3 minutes worth of downtime. If blue dots weren't complete **** in this game I wouldn't even run them.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Lac Nokomis
Palliative
47
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:06:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic. uh no its stupid. scans are so scrubby, ive never skilled into scans because i dont need them, how about this passive scans are shared with the team not the gallogi scans. scans take no skill.
Hardly. Scanners take Skills, isk, PG/CPU, a slot, and timing to utilize properly. |
Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
223
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:06:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid So a proto logi with one proto scanner can scan everything, and this is a problem why? If you use any scanner other than that one particular one, people can get beneath your dB. You complain about a gallogi using more than one scanner, but to do so he removes capability in other areas. Sax, I have a decent amount of respect for you, but this is unreasonable. Everything in this game has a counter, just as it should.
+1
I have the gallogi, and it's not easy at all to play
Yes you scan people, but that's not why you are the best slayer in the game...
For example in PC battle when I play the gallogi scan, I make bad scores... But I'm usefull for the team ^^
I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
952
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:07:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid Yea, because it's so easy to get scans like that. Like 2.5mil SP for proto Gal logi, and another 700k SP for the Duvolle focused. Not to mention 57k isk for the suit and another like 28k isk for the scanner. Pssst. Get outta here.
i can say the same about my mk.0, scout that can can be scanned by a crappy scanner when i have 3 comp damps on and lev 5 on profile dampning, freekin ridiculous.
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
3845
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:08:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:
uh no its stupid. scans are so scrubby, ive never skilled into scans because i dont need them, how about this passive scans are shared with the team not the gallogi scans.
scans take no skill.
Assert scans take no skill > skill cal scout as his first suit after 1.7
Come on saxon, do not offend our intelligence.
Pronounced Scam - man - hoga
Minmatar omni-merc
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
952
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:12:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:saxonmish wrote:
uh no its stupid. scans are so scrubby, ive never skilled into scans because i dont need them, how about this passive scans are shared with the team not the gallogi scans.
scans take no skill.
Assert scans take no skill > skill cal scout as his first suit after 1.7 Come on saxon, do not offend our intelligence.
i was a GK.0 logi after 1.7
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1716
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:16:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:
But camping a cru does. I've seen you around.
your point is>? 80% of the playerbase camps cru's, jees
Now 80 percent of the player base can see you when they spawn. Your the one crying
Crush them
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
224
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:22:00 -
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Valor Goat wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic. Cavani1EE7 wrote:
inb4primagallicusfags
Jealous ?
I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.
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Big Burns
Dem Durrty Boyz
General Tso's Alliance
373
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:37:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid
^^^Says the biggest cloak/RE user in the game. Work on your gungame and you won't have this problem.
I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1747
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:41:00 -
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Sax your good but just can't support you on this one , I run Min logi and use scanners for myself , I run solo and my team ... again , solo / no squad but TEAM SPORT / SUPPORT , I get no WP's from that but my scanners keep me and my troops alive when were going against mostly scouts hopping around with SG's , NK's , CR's and RE's .
Scanners are necessary for dealing with scouts and like said , it's only one who can see dampened scouts and not that well if fully dampened Gal for instance .
Like said before , everything has a counter and most complain about it , the counter part .
Just can't back you on this one bud , kinda disappointed that this is even coming from you when you seem to have no problem wreaking players , this makes you seem kinda soft because it's not even necessary coming from you , a scrub yes its expected but from you .?.?.?. just surprised that's all .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
258
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:51:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Big Burns wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid Yea, because it's so easy to get scans like that. Like 2.5mil SP for proto Gal logi, and another 700k SP for the Duvolle focused. Not to mention 57k isk for the suit and another like 28k isk for the scanner. Pssst. Get outta here. i can say the same about my mk.0, scout that can can be scanned by a crappy scanner when i have 3 comp damps on and lev 5 on profile dampning, freekin ridiculous.
so you are complaining that the MK0 scout which was designed for hacking and speed unlike the Ck0 or Gk0 and Ak0 scouts which actually have e-war bonuses is being picked by a proto gal-logi with the only prototype scanner that can only scan you for a bout 6-7 seconds assuming you get into its 30 degree radius at 100m (which a scout can easily run) and cant be picked use for another 40 seconds until it cools down as a permascan? the only other scan that i would call useful is the adv active scanner and thats bearly even decent. Please do explain further how of a easy mode it is
Sir Dukey-
If one person is smart he should be able to keep vehicle at bay but not destroy it unless its a stupid driver
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
324
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:52:00 -
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"You have been scanned."
"Good, they'll know who killed them."
Heard that somewhere on the forums, don't remember where...
Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ How do ya like my knives on my minassault?
Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
324
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:53:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid ^^^Says the biggest cloak/RE user in the game. Work on your gungame and you won't have this problem.
Have you ever played with/against him?
Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ How do ya like my knives on my minassault?
Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
580
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Posted - 2015.01.26 21:31:00 -
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3 months of vids playing as a scout stomping mlt nubs. Complains about scanners  |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4830
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Posted - 2015.01.26 21:58:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Big Burns wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid Yea, because it's so easy to get scans like that. Like 2.5mil SP for proto Gal logi, and another 700k SP for the Duvolle focused. Not to mention 57k isk for the suit and another like 28k isk for the scanner. Pssst. Get outta here. i can say the same about my mk.0, scout that can can be scanned by a crappy scanner when i have 3 comp damps on and lev 5 on profile dampning, freekin ridiculous.
Sax, a triple Complex Dampened MinScout will avoid all scanners except the Duvolle Focused on a level 5 GalLogi. With a profile of 16db, you'll be off tacnets 99% of the time. To avoid the Focused Scanner, throw on an Ishukone cloak and you're golden.
Each Scout has the capability to avoid every scan in game. It really all depends if one is willing to sacrifice their low slots for damps, and that is why I have several fits set up for counter-GalLogi play. |
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pumping up
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2015.01.26 22:01:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:
But camping a cru does. I've seen you around.
your point is>? 80% of the playerbase camps cru's, jees
Eye for an eye and the world is blind.
Please help me on my quest to get the Recruiter C-II Dropsuit!
https://dust514.com/recruit/S5kDan/ <3
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axis alpha
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2015.01.26 22:02:00 -
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It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable.
If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage.
Adapt.
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
155
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Posted - 2015.01.26 22:29:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic. uh no its stupid. scans are so scrubby, ive never skilled into scans because i dont need them, how about this passive scans are shared with the team not the gallogi scans. scans take no skill.
Gûá Yo derp derp adapt to your enemy. They scan. You damp. They call a vehicle. You forge/swarm.
Gûá But ccp will listen to the forum babies. Nerf nerf nerf.
Gûá In my opinion EWar was nice before the changes. shared team scans are not the answer.
Gÿå modded controller take no skill, at least one has to skill into scans.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4832
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Posted - 2015.01.26 22:29:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable.
If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage.
Adapt.
Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable.
MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused
Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused
CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused
GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused |
pumping up
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2015.01.26 22:30:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:axis alpha wrote:It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable.
If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage.
Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused
Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect.
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Lac Nokomis wrote:
Hardly. Scanners take Skills, isk, PG/CPU, a slot, and timing to utilize properly.
Lmfao point and scan. zero drawbacks. zero skills.
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Dear OP, can u change "scanners" in subj to "scout"?
Thank you.
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Varoth Drac wrote:
However they should make using active scanners reveal your position to the enemy. Therefore an interesting counter would be to send a damped scout out to assassinate him/her.
I like this. Instead of the regular dot on the radar, they should have something like a dot with chevrons at every 90-¦ interval:
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pumping up wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:axis alpha wrote:It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable.
If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage.
Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect.
Yup, and the thing about it is these fits are really only feasible at the Proto level and even then it leaves:
MinScout with no low slots
CalScout with no low slots
AmarrScout with one low slot
The only suit that can still find room to fit other mods is the GalScout. It still has 2 lows and 2 highs to work with. |
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LT SHANKS wrote:pumping up wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:axis alpha wrote:It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable.
If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage.
Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect. Yup, and the thing about it is these fits are really only feasible at the Proto level and even then it leaves: MinScout with no low slots CalScout with no low slots AmarrScout with one low slot The only suit that can still find room to fit other mods is the GalScout. It still has 2 lows and 2 highs to work with.
Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi...
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LUGMOS wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:pumping up wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:axis alpha wrote:It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable.
If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage.
Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect. Yup, and the thing about it is these fits are really only feasible at the Proto level and even then it leaves: MinScout with no low slots CalScout with no low slots AmarrScout with one low slot The only suit that can still find room to fit other mods is the GalScout. It still has 2 lows and 2 highs to work with. Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi...
You can, but it would suck with such a short scan time. |
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LT SHANKS wrote:pumping up wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:axis alpha wrote:It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable.
If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage.
Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect. Yup, and the thing about it is these fits are really only feasible at the Proto level and even then it leaves: MinScout with no low slots CalScout with no low slots AmarrScout with one low slot The only suit that can still find room to fit other mods is the GalScout. It still has 2 lows and 2 highs to work with.
No one can have everything.
Being left with no slots is one of the drawbacks.
If I wan't to permascan, I need to give up all the rest of my equipment slots to do so.
If you want to be invisible, you have to give up your lows.
Rock, paper, scissors baby.
You could risk not fully damping, but then you might get scanned. You have a choice.... and as that old dude guarding Jesus' coffee mug said...
You have chosen... poorly
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RayRay James wrote:
No one can have everything.
Being left with no slots is one of the drawbacks.
If I wan't to permascan, I need to give up all the rest of my equipment slots to do so.
If you want to be invisible, you have to give up your lows.
Rock, paper, scissors baby.
You could risk not fully damping, but then you might get scanned. You have a choice.... and as that old dude guarding Jesus' coffee mug said...
You have chosen... poorly
Except the Logi...
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RayRay James wrote:LUGMOS wrote:
Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi...
You can, but it would suck with such a short scan time.
Pretty sure that's not how suit bonuses work...
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LUGMOS wrote:RayRay James wrote:LUGMOS wrote:
Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi...
You can, but it would suck with such a short scan time. Pretty sure that's not how suit bonuses work...
it is, cos my Quafe m-1 assault still has 100 bullets in my sub
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You'll be happy to know when we destroyes your XT tanks earlier there was no scanning involved.
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LUGMOS wrote:RayRay James wrote:LUGMOS wrote:
Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi...
You can, but it would suck with such a short scan time. Pretty sure that's not how suit bonuses work...
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LUGMOS wrote:RayRay James wrote:
No one can have everything.
Being left with no slots is one of the drawbacks.
If I wan't to permascan, I need to give up all the rest of my equipment slots to do so.
If you want to be invisible, you have to give up your lows.
Rock, paper, scissors baby.
You could risk not fully damping, but then you might get scanned. You have a choice.... and as that old dude guarding Jesus' coffee mug said...
You have chosen... poorly
Except the Logi...
You're right, we get lots of equipment.
And the life span of a Mayfly...
and we're kinda slow....
and bright yellow...
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As a primary galogi I cant get behind this one. Scanning is only as useful as the people you're with. I don't agree with teamwide scans either, but squad scanning doesnt mean a thing to people who cant fight. I can scan all day long and if my unit is getting knocked about it doesnt mean a thing AND I don't get wp for it. Now this doesn't happen much in corp squads, o7, but I run solo and in mixed squads because I have limited playtime. It's simply another case of use the proper counter, either dampen up and scratch your hp, or tank up and group up for that redberry push in your direction. There's only one scanner in the game that is a surefire scan across the board, and it is such a costly fit I dont even bother with it.
That being said I still don't agree with teamwide scans.
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:team scans need to be removed asap. Unless you're a gal or amarr scout you're ****** if even one guy on the other team is a gal logi.
I was under the impression that CCP wanted to introduce team and squad scanners as separate pieces of equipment. If they do ever get around to that, then team scans should have a lower (as in worse) scanning precision than the squad-specific versions.
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o.0 Sax are you complaining about something?!?!?!?
Thats a first lol
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I think the thing we are missing here is that whether you are scanning or being scanned the game is not better because of it
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic. what if you're an assault or logistics suit? And by carrying more than one scanner the gallogi can have scans up basically permanently.
Part of the problem is the bandwidth cost of equipment; I can use up all of my bandwidth by setting down two advanced uplinks and two proto ammo nanohives and have one equipment slot for a scanner/repper/injector (on my advanced suit.) Is there any point in waiting around for one of the nanohives to expire so I can replace it? Not really...so instead, I also have a healer suit with one scanner and one scanner suit if I'm close to a supply depot that has three scanners.
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saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid
Saxonmish rage... This turns me on... The little rager inside of me tells me to go rage!!
F*ck these st*pid as* Mother flippin Gallante Bi*h as* Lo*is th*t f*king spa***MMM The*r f*king 4* Scan*ers!! GRR**RRR!!
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Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic.
How many dampners do I have to fit on an amar assault to beat a proto scanner?
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Reign Omega wrote:As a primary galogi I cant get behind this one. Scanning is only as useful as the people you're with. I don't agree with teamwide scans either, but squad scanning doesnt mean a thing to people who cant fight. I can scan all day long and if my unit is getting knocked about it doesnt mean a thing AND I don't get wp for it. Now this doesn't happen much in corp squads, o7, but I run solo and in mixed squads because I have limited playtime. It's simply another case of use the proper counter, either dampen up and scratch your hp, or tank up and group up for that redberry push in your direction. There's only one scanner in the game that is a surefire scan across the board, and it is such a costly fit I dont even bother with it.
That being said I still don't agree with teamwide scans.
BS. Scanning means everything to people who cant shoot. You don't have to have a fast reaction time as a squad or solo when the other team is lit up for the entire game. Spool up that RR and fire that hmg before the enemy even turns the corner. As soon as that up link is dropped we know where it is, destroy it.
Scanners do not need to be nerfed. Up links need to be unscannable. Squad commanders need a mind link to decrease scan profile of the squad. And Intel should only be relayed to squad members who are within 30 meters of the scanner. If this can't be done remove them all together.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 04:17:00 -
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echo47 wrote:Reign Omega wrote:As a primary galogi I cant get behind this one. Scanning is only as useful as the people you're with. I don't agree with teamwide scans either, but squad scanning doesnt mean a thing to people who cant fight. I can scan all day long and if my unit is getting knocked about it doesnt mean a thing AND I don't get wp for it. Now this doesn't happen much in corp squads, o7, but I run solo and in mixed squads because I have limited playtime. It's simply another case of use the proper counter, either dampen up and scratch your hp, or tank up and group up for that redberry push in your direction. There's only one scanner in the game that is a surefire scan across the board, and it is such a costly fit I dont even bother with it.
That being said I still don't agree with teamwide scans. BS. Scanning means everything to people who cant shoot. You don't have to have a fast reaction time as a squad or solo when the other team is lit up for the entire game. Spool up that RR and fire that hmg before the enemy even turns the corner. As soon as that up link is dropped we know where it is, destroy it. Scanners do not need to be nerfed. Up links need to be unscannable. Squad commanders need a mind link to decrease scan profile of the squad. And Intel should only be relayed to squad members who are within 30 meters of the scanner. If this can't be done remove them all together. Scanning does help people who can't shoot, but it's definitely not the deciding factor in a fight, my point being that just because I'm scanned or scanning doesnt mean I automatically clear the field of reds leading my team to glory. You'd be surprised how many people get beat up nice and normal even with me running proto scans (logi is the only suit I run proto on a regular basis. ) we still get shat on. Knowing where to shoot isn't helping them hit the target.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 04:27:00 -
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echo47 wrote:How many dampners do I have to fit on an amar assault to beat a proto scanner?
On an AK.0, you'll need 4 complex damps to get a profile of roughly 19db.
This is enough to dodge all active scanners aside from the Duvolle Focused on a Gallogi. You'll also still be scannable by Amarr Scouts with Precision Enhancers. Other than that, you're good to go. You'll be able to work with:
3 high slots
1 low slot
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Also... a mind link breh?
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LT SHANKS wrote:echo47 wrote:How many dampners do I have to fit on an amar assault to beat a proto scanner? On an AK.0, you'll need 4 complex damps to get a profile of roughly 19db. This is enough to dodge all active scanners aside from the Duvolle Focused on a Gallogi. You'll also still be scannable by Amarr Scouts with Precision Enhancers. Other than that, you're good to go. You'll be able to work with: 3 high slots 1 low slot All PG
Not gimped at all
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LT SHANKS wrote:echo47 wrote:How many dampners do I have to fit on an amar assault to beat a proto scanner? On an AK.0, you'll need 4 complex damps to get a profile of roughly 19db. This is enough to dodge all active scanners aside from the Duvolle Focused on a Gallogi. You'll also still be scannable by Amarr Scouts with Precision Enhancers. Other than that, you're good to go. You'll be able to work with: 3 high slots 1 low slot All PG
Imagine the fittings you can make with 4 whole slots at your disposal
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Posted - 2015.01.27 05:12:00 -
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hmmm, now the only problem I see is sitting on a supply depot, have the 200m scan on a gal logi, scan switch to assault, switch back,scan again, negate the cooldowns and keep up permanent scan in multiple directions... Solution, make cooldowns on switching suits at depots.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 05:31:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:echo47 wrote:How many dampners do I have to fit on an amar assault to beat a proto scanner? On an AK.0, you'll need 4 complex damps to get a profile of roughly 19db. This is enough to dodge all active scanners aside from the Duvolle Focused on a Gallogi. You'll also still be scannable by Amarr Scouts with Precision Enhancers. Other than that, you're good to go. You'll be able to work with: 3 high slots 1 low slot All PG
This is factored in the assumption that all suits are supposed to be able to best a max scan AND still be viable for tanked out combat, this is not the case. You want to beat scans? Sacrifice hp. Simple.
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Team scans are here to stay. Got a problem with that? Then use profile dampeners and with that the problem is solved. Solo Gal. logis allways got shafted before teamscans got implemented.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:26:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:echo47 wrote:How many dampners do I have to fit on an amar assault to beat a proto scanner? On an AK.0, you'll need 4 complex damps to get a profile of roughly 19db. This is enough to dodge all active scanners aside from the Duvolle Focused on a Gallogi. You'll also still be scannable by Amarr Scouts with Precision Enhancers. Other than that, you're good to go. You'll be able to work with: 3 high slots 1 low slot All PG This is factored in the assumption that all suits are supposed to be able to best a max scan AND still be viable for tanked out combat, this is not the case. You want to beat scans? Sacrifice hp. Simple.
Those who scan can stack precision mods and range amplifiers but then they could not share intel with their entire team or get easy war points for the sqaud like getting war points is a difficult task. That is the logic behind active scanners. I have never understood why they are in the game. They kind of defeat the purpose of comms or being in a sqaud or the rest of the squad sacrificing damage or HP for advances Intel.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:29:00 -
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They're in the game to counter scouts, without having an ewar circle jerk between one class.
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Everything Dies wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:team scans need to be removed asap. Unless you're a gal or amarr scout you're ****** if even one guy on the other team is a gal logi. I was under the impression that CCP wanted to introduce team and squad scanners as separate pieces of equipment. If they do ever get around to that, then team scans should have a lower (as in worse) scanning precision than the squad-specific versions.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression the Duvolle Focused Scanner was squad only?
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Posted - 2015.01.27 10:53:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:echo47 wrote:How many dampners do I have to fit on an amar assault to beat a proto scanner? On an AK.0, you'll need 4 complex damps to get a profile of roughly 19db. This is enough to dodge all active scanners aside from the Duvolle Focused on a Gallogi. You'll also still be scannable by Amarr Scouts with Precision Enhancers. Other than that, you're good to go. You'll be able to work with: 3 high slots 1 low slot All PG Not gimped at all
Believe it or not, but even with 4 complex damps, you can still get/equip:
850 + eHP
5 hp/s armor rep
Viziam ScR, TY-5 Breach Scrambler Pistol, Core Locus Grenades, any equipment of choice
Sure you sacrifice HP, reps, and damage, but you can still make a relatively decent fit.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 11:50:00 -
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So perma scans are stupid? Weren't you running around in a cal scout for ages sax? |
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saxonmish wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:saxonmish wrote:everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic. uh no its stupid. scans are so scrubby, ive never skilled into scans because i dont need them, how about this passive scans are shared with the team not the gallogi scans. scans take no skill.
scrubby? says fotm chaser ;) cal scout with railrifle? you cant talk hahaa;)
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>Sees scouts whining about scans
>Laughs and leaves thread
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Lmao why the thread sax ? Scans are so easy to counter especially for a guy with your lifetime SP. Where is the problem that your enemies are stronger and more organized. Scans are especially good for point defense , organizing the squad to prepare for a wave of enemies.
Fit your dampeners and stop QQ'ing
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Posted - 2015.01.27 12:55:00 -
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I too think that scans are a pain in the arse. If I was a dev that feature would've been deleted a long time ago (both active and passive scans). The only guys that should light up 100% of the time are heavies but that's just my opinion.
Now, we have to play with what we have. And considering that I think that it's absolutely normal that a lvl 5 galLogi with a lvl 5 LP scanner can see everybody on the map (according to the game's logic). You can't say something's OP based on the most specialized suit with all skils and equipments maxed. It is not a good way to demonstrate anything^^
Again, it's to me the whole concept that should be deleted, getting scanned permanently because I'm not a scout is horrible, it breaks the gameplay, and strategy. But according to how CCP wants it to work, it not that bad (damp any medium/light suit a bit and you'll be able to pass under an adv scanner not wielded by a galLogi, or go full damp and avoid -almost- everything).
Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name.
Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.27 15:03:00 -
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I do the stupidest things while scanned, like charging straight at 3 sentinels... I do things that I wouldn't do while not scanned.
Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ How do ya like my knives on my minassault?
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.27 17:21:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:Where is the problem that your enemies are stronger and more organized.
Joel II X and I were the opposition, Joel being the scanner. So thank you 
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Dreis is [always] right - Kaze Eyrou
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.01.27 18:16:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:team scans need to be removed asap. Unless you're a gal or amarr scout you're ****** if even one guy on the other team is a gal logi.
I agree.
As for Sax, use a Gal Scout? I could only scan you with the Duvolle Focused.
There are about 5 users who are dedicated to scanning scouts, so why complain when you're facing two of them in a match? It's like complaining about scouts back in 1.4 or something.
That said, I agree that scanners need a fix and removal of team scans. Until then, I'll just keep using them. |
All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.27 20:12:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:echo47 wrote:How many dampners do I have to fit on an amar assault to beat a proto scanner? On an AK.0, you'll need 4 complex damps to get a profile of roughly 19db. This is enough to dodge all active scanners aside from the Duvolle Focused on a Gallogi. You'll also still be scannable by Amarr Scouts with Precision Enhancers. Other than that, you're good to go. You'll be able to work with: 3 high slots 1 low slot All PG Not gimped at all Believe it or not, but even with 4 complex damps, you can still get/equip: 850 + eHP 5 hp/s armor rep Viziam ScR, TY-5 Breach Scrambler Pistol, Core Locus Grenades, any equipment of choice Sure you sacrifice HP, reps, and damage, but you can still make a relatively decent fit.
What ever disgusting fit you just created sounds like its main purpose is to lose gun fights .
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
669
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Posted - 2015.01.27 20:31:00 -
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Woe to those who attempt to use ewar! Any side of the scan/damp coin you choose is wrong. Place no faith in the red dots on tacnet, even less faith on the blue ones.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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