DUST Search - scanners are freekin ********.

echo47 wrote:

Reign Omega wrote:

As a primary galogi I cant get behind this one. Scanning is only as useful as the people you're with. I don't agree with teamwide scans either, but squad scanning doesnt mean a thing to people who cant fight. I can scan all day long and if my unit is getting knocked about it doesnt mean a thing AND I don't get wp for it. Now this doesn't happen much in corp squads, o7, but I run solo and in mixed squads because I have limited playtime. It's simply another case of use the proper counter, either dampen up and scratch your hp, or tank up and group up for that redberry push in your direction. There's only one scanner in the game that is a surefire scan across the board, and it is such a costly fit I dont even bother with it.

That being said I still don't agree with teamwide scans.

BS. Scanning means everything to people who cant shoot. You don't have to have a fast reaction time as a squad or solo when the other team is lit up for the entire game. Spool up that RR and fire that hmg before the enemy even turns the corner. As soon as that up link is dropped we know where it is, destroy it.

Scanners do not need to be nerfed. Up links need to be unscannable. Squad commanders need a mind link to decrease scan profile of the squad. And Intel should only be relayed to squad members who are within 30 meters of the scanner. If this can't be done remove them all together.

Scanning does help people who can't shoot, but it's definitely not the deciding factor in a fight, my point being that just because I'm scanned or scanning doesnt mean I automatically clear the field of reds leading my team to glory. You'd be surprised how many people get beat up nice and normal even with me running proto scans (logi is the only suit I run proto on a regular basis. ) we still get shat on. Knowing where to shoot isn't helping them hit the target.


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Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1154	Posted - 2015.01.27 00:53:00 - [1] - Quote As a primary galogi I cant get behind this one. Scanning is only as useful as the people you're with. I don't agree with teamwide scans either, but squad scanning doesnt mean a thing to people who cant fight. I can scan all day long and if my unit is getting knocked about it doesnt mean a thing AND I don't get wp for it. Now this doesn't happen much in corp squads, o7, but I run solo and in mixed squads because I have limited playtime. It's simply another case of use the proper counter, either dampen up and scratch your hp, or tank up and group up for that redberry push in your direction. There's only one scanner in the game that is a surefire scan across the board, and it is such a costly fit I dont even bother with it. That being said I still don't agree with teamwide scans. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1154	Posted - 2015.01.27 04:17:00 - [2] - Quote echo47 wrote: Reign Omega wrote: As a primary galogi I cant get behind this one. Scanning is only as useful as the people you're with. I don't agree with teamwide scans either, but squad scanning doesnt mean a thing to people who cant fight. I can scan all day long and if my unit is getting knocked about it doesnt mean a thing AND I don't get wp for it. Now this doesn't happen much in corp squads, o7, but I run solo and in mixed squads because I have limited playtime. It's simply another case of use the proper counter, either dampen up and scratch your hp, or tank up and group up for that redberry push in your direction. There's only one scanner in the game that is a surefire scan across the board, and it is such a costly fit I dont even bother with it. That being said I still don't agree with teamwide scans. BS. Scanning means everything to people who cant shoot. You don't have to have a fast reaction time as a squad or solo when the other team is lit up for the entire game. Spool up that RR and fire that hmg before the enemy even turns the corner. As soon as that up link is dropped we know where it is, destroy it. Scanners do not need to be nerfed. Up links need to be unscannable. Squad commanders need a mind link to decrease scan profile of the squad. And Intel should only be relayed to squad members who are within 30 meters of the scanner. If this can't be done remove them all together. Scanning does help people who can't shoot, but it's definitely not the deciding factor in a fight, my point being that just because I'm scanned or scanning doesnt mean I automatically clear the field of reds leading my team to glory. You'd be surprised how many people get beat up nice and normal even with me running proto scans (logi is the only suit I run proto on a regular basis. ) we still get shat on. Knowing where to shoot isn't helping them hit the target. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1154	Posted - 2015.01.27 04:28:00 - [3] - Quote Also... a mind link breh? Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1154	Posted - 2015.01.27 05:31:00 - [4] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: echo47 wrote: How many dampners do I have to fit on an amar assault to beat a proto scanner? On an AK.0, you'll need 4 complex damps to get a profile of roughly 19db. This is enough to dodge all active scanners aside from the Duvolle Focused on a Gallogi. You'll also still be scannable by Amarr Scouts with Precision Enhancers. Other than that, you're good to go. You'll be able to work with: 3 high slots 1 low slot All PG This is factored in the assumption that all suits are supposed to be able to best a max scan AND still be viable for tanked out combat, this is not the case. You want to beat scans? Sacrifice hp. Simple. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1155	Posted - 2015.01.27 07:29:00 - [5] - Quote They're in the game to counter scouts, without having an ewar circle jerk between one class. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....