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LUGMOS wrote:

LT SHANKS wrote:

pumping up wrote:

LT SHANKS wrote:

axis alpha wrote:

It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable.

If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage.

Adapt.

Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable.

MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused
Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused
CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused
GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused

Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect.

Yup, and the thing about it is these fits are really only feasible at the Proto level and even then it leaves:

MinScout with no low slots
CalScout with no low slots
AmarrScout with one low slot

The only suit that can still find room to fit other mods is the GalScout. It still has 2 lows and 2 highs to work with.

Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi...

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saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 952	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:12:00 - [31] - Quote shaman oga wrote: saxonmish wrote: uh no its stupid. scans are so scrubby, ive never skilled into scans because i dont need them, how about this passive scans are shared with the team not the gallogi scans. scans take no skill. Assert scans take no skill > skill cal scout as his first suit after 1.7 Come on saxon, do not offend our intelligence. i was a GK.0 logi after 1.7 SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1716	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:16:00 - [32] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: But camping a cru does. I've seen you around. your point is>? 80% of the playerbase camps cru's, jees Now 80 percent of the player base can see you when they spawn. Your the one crying Crush them
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 224	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:22:00 - [33] - Quote Valor Goat wrote: Killer's Coys wrote: saxonmish wrote: everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic. Cavani1EE7 wrote: inb4primagallicusfags Jealous ? I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.
Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 373	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:37:00 - [34] - Quote saxonmish wrote: everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid ^^^Says the biggest cloak/RE user in the game. Work on your gungame and you won't have this problem. I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1747	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:41:00 - [35] - Quote Sax your good but just can't support you on this one , I run Min logi and use scanners for myself , I run solo and my team ... again , solo / no squad but TEAM SPORT / SUPPORT , I get no WP's from that but my scanners keep me and my troops alive when were going against mostly scouts hopping around with SG's , NK's , CR's and RE's . Scanners are necessary for dealing with scouts and like said , it's only one who can see dampened scouts and not that well if fully dampened Gal for instance . Like said before , everything has a counter and most complain about it , the counter part . Just can't back you on this one bud , kinda disappointed that this is even coming from you when you seem to have no problem wreaking players , this makes you seem kinda soft because it's not even necessary coming from you , a scrub yes its expected but from you .?.?.?. just surprised that's all . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 258	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:51:00 - [36] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Big Burns wrote: saxonmish wrote: everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid Yea, because it's so easy to get scans like that. Like 2.5mil SP for proto Gal logi, and another 700k SP for the Duvolle focused. Not to mention 57k isk for the suit and another like 28k isk for the scanner. Pssst. Get outta here. i can say the same about my mk.0, scout that can can be scanned by a crappy scanner when i have 3 comp damps on and lev 5 on profile dampning, freekin ridiculous. so you are complaining that the MK0 scout which was designed for hacking and speed unlike the Ck0 or Gk0 and Ak0 scouts which actually have e-war bonuses is being picked by a proto gal-logi with the only prototype scanner that can only scan you for a bout 6-7 seconds assuming you get into its 30 degree radius at 100m (which a scout can easily run) and cant be picked use for another 40 seconds until it cools down as a permascan? the only other scan that i would call useful is the adv active scanner and thats bearly even decent. Please do explain further how of a easy mode it is Sir Dukey- If one person is smart he should be able to keep vehicle at bay but not destroy it unless its a stupid driver
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 324	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:52:00 - [37] - Quote "You have been scanned." "Good, they'll know who killed them." Heard that somewhere on the forums, don't remember where... Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ How do ya like my knives on my minassault? Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 324	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:53:00 - [38] - Quote Big Burns wrote: saxonmish wrote: everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid ^^^Says the biggest cloak/RE user in the game. Work on your gungame and you won't have this problem. Have you ever played with/against him? Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ How do ya like my knives on my minassault? Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 580	Posted - 2015.01.26 21:31:00 - [39] - Quote 3 months of vids playing as a scout stomping mlt nubs. Complains about scanners
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4830	Posted - 2015.01.26 21:58:00 - [40] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Big Burns wrote: saxonmish wrote: everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid Yea, because it's so easy to get scans like that. Like 2.5mil SP for proto Gal logi, and another 700k SP for the Duvolle focused. Not to mention 57k isk for the suit and another like 28k isk for the scanner. Pssst. Get outta here. i can say the same about my mk.0, scout that can can be scanned by a crappy scanner when i have 3 comp damps on and lev 5 on profile dampning, freekin ridiculous. Sax, a triple Complex Dampened MinScout will avoid all scanners except the Duvolle Focused on a level 5 GalLogi. With a profile of 16db, you'll be off tacnets 99% of the time. To avoid the Focused Scanner, throw on an Ishukone cloak and you're golden. Each Scout has the capability to avoid every scan in game. It really all depends if one is willing to sacrifice their low slots for damps, and that is why I have several fits set up for counter-GalLogi play.

pumping up Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 107	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:01:00 - [41] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: But camping a cru does. I've seen you around. your point is>? 80% of the playerbase camps cru's, jees Eye for an eye and the world is blind. Please help me on my quest to get the Recruiter C-II Dropsuit! https://dust514.com/recruit/S5kDan/ <3
axis alpha Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 496	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:02:00 - [42] - Quote It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable. If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage. Adapt. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
thehellisgoingon MONSTER SYNERGY 155	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:29:00 - [43] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Killer's Coys wrote: saxonmish wrote: everything can be scanned by a gal logi and its stupid It's logical. A gallogi can scan almost everything. It can scan scouts if he's lvl 5 in the dropsuit skill and if he uses the focused scan. AND the focused can only scan 5sec (7.5s with gallogi) and you have to wait 40s (!) AND Caldari scout or gallente scout + 2 complex dampener + ishukone cloak can't ne scanned, even by the focused gallogi. A minma scout or Amarr scout + 3 dampener + ishukone cloak is the same. So, you can not to be scanned, but you have to fit correctly... Ho and, a gallogi + focused (48,000 isk by 1) has very low hp. For me it's not stupid at all. That's just logic. uh no its stupid. scans are so scrubby, ive never skilled into scans because i dont need them, how about this passive scans are shared with the team not the gallogi scans. scans take no skill. Gûá Yo derp derp adapt to your enemy. They scan. You damp. They call a vehicle. You forge/swarm. Gûá But ccp will listen to the forum babies. Nerf nerf nerf. Gûá In my opinion EWar was nice before the changes. shared team scans are not the answer. Gÿå modded controller take no skill, at least one has to skill into scans.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4832	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:29:00 - [44] - Quote axis alpha wrote: It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable. If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage. Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused
pumping up Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 107	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:30:00 - [45] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: axis alpha wrote: It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable. If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage. Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect. Please help me on my quest to get the Recruiter C-II Dropsuit! https://dust514.com/recruit/S5kDan/ <3
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 128	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:43:00 - [46] - Quote Lac Nokomis wrote: Hardly. Scanners take Skills, isk, PG/CPU, a slot, and timing to utilize properly. Lmfao point and scan. zero drawbacks. zero skills. Director / Slayer / Emperor
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1191	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:48:00 - [47] - Quote Dear OP, can u change "scanners" in subj to "scout"? Thank you. Please support fair play!
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1688	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:50:00 - [48] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: However they should make using active scanners reveal your position to the enemy. Therefore an interesting counter would be to send a damped scout out to assassinate him/her. I like this. Instead of the regular dot on the radar, they should have something like a dot with chevrons at every 90-¦ interval: >GÇó< Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4832	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:52:00 - [49] - Quote pumping up wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: axis alpha wrote: It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable. If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage. Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect. Yup, and the thing about it is these fits are really only feasible at the Proto level and even then it leaves: MinScout with no low slots CalScout with no low slots AmarrScout with one low slot The only suit that can still find room to fit other mods is the GalScout. It still has 2 lows and 2 highs to work with.
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1688	Posted - 2015.01.26 23:11:00 - [50] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: pumping up wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: axis alpha wrote: It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable. If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage. Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect. Yup, and the thing about it is these fits are really only feasible at the Proto level and even then it leaves: MinScout with no low slots CalScout with no low slots AmarrScout with one low slot The only suit that can still find room to fit other mods is the GalScout. It still has 2 lows and 2 highs to work with. Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V

RayRay James Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 935	Posted - 2015.01.26 23:27:00 - [51] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: pumping up wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: axis alpha wrote: It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable. If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage. Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect. Yup, and the thing about it is these fits are really only feasible at the Proto level and even then it leaves: MinScout with no low slots CalScout with no low slots AmarrScout with one low slot The only suit that can still find room to fit other mods is the GalScout. It still has 2 lows and 2 highs to work with. Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi... You can, but it would suck with such a short scan time.
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 935	Posted - 2015.01.26 23:31:00 - [52] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: pumping up wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: axis alpha wrote: It would be broken as **** if there was a suit that could be totally not scannable. If they spent the sp to invest into scanning they should be able to use the advantage. Adapt. Sorry to break it to ya, but all Scouts can be unscannable. MinScout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a Level 5 Gallogi Focused Amarr Scout + 3 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused CalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused GalScout + 2 complex damps + Ishukone Cloak will beat a level 5 Gallogi Focused Sounds alright I mean that's a lot of space for negating that effect. Yup, and the thing about it is these fits are really only feasible at the Proto level and even then it leaves: MinScout with no low slots CalScout with no low slots AmarrScout with one low slot The only suit that can still find room to fit other mods is the GalScout. It still has 2 lows and 2 highs to work with. No one can have everything. Being left with no slots is one of the drawbacks. If I wan't to permascan, I need to give up all the rest of my equipment slots to do so. If you want to be invisible, you have to give up your lows. Rock, paper, scissors baby. You could risk not fully damping, but then you might get scanned. You have a choice.... and as that old dude guarding Jesus' coffee mug said... You have chosen... poorly
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1688	Posted - 2015.01.26 23:36:00 - [53] - Quote RayRay James wrote: No one can have everything. Being left with no slots is one of the drawbacks. If I wan't to permascan, I need to give up all the rest of my equipment slots to do so. If you want to be invisible, you have to give up your lows. Rock, paper, scissors baby. You could risk not fully damping, but then you might get scanned. You have a choice.... and as that old dude guarding Jesus' coffee mug said... You have chosen... poorly Except the Logi... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1688	Posted - 2015.01.26 23:37:00 - [54] - Quote RayRay James wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi... You can, but it would suck with such a short scan time. Pretty sure that's not how suit bonuses work... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 955	Posted - 2015.01.26 23:52:00 - [55] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: RayRay James wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi... You can, but it would suck with such a short scan time. Pretty sure that's not how suit bonuses work... it is, cos my Quafe m-1 assault still has 100 bullets in my sub SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1730	Posted - 2015.01.26 23:53:00 - [56] - Quote You'll be happy to know when we destroyes your XT tanks earlier there was no scanning involved. Crush them
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 935	Posted - 2015.01.26 23:57:00 - [57] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: RayRay James wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Not to mention you can fit a pro scanner on a basic G-1 logi... You can, but it would suck with such a short scan time. Pretty sure that's not how suit bonuses work... Sorry, assumed basic skills on a basic suit
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 935	Posted - 2015.01.27 00:00:00 - [58] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: RayRay James wrote: No one can have everything. Being left with no slots is one of the drawbacks. If I wan't to permascan, I need to give up all the rest of my equipment slots to do so. If you want to be invisible, you have to give up your lows. Rock, paper, scissors baby. You could risk not fully damping, but then you might get scanned. You have a choice.... and as that old dude guarding Jesus' coffee mug said... You have chosen... poorly Except the Logi... You're right, we get lots of equipment. And the life span of a Mayfly... and we're kinda slow.... and bright yellow... Also, we're usually targeted first.
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1154	Posted - 2015.01.27 00:53:00 - [59] - Quote As a primary galogi I cant get behind this one. Scanning is only as useful as the people you're with. I don't agree with teamwide scans either, but squad scanning doesnt mean a thing to people who cant fight. I can scan all day long and if my unit is getting knocked about it doesnt mean a thing AND I don't get wp for it. Now this doesn't happen much in corp squads, o7, but I run solo and in mixed squads because I have limited playtime. It's simply another case of use the proper counter, either dampen up and scratch your hp, or tank up and group up for that redberry push in your direction. There's only one scanner in the game that is a surefire scan across the board, and it is such a costly fit I dont even bother with it. That being said I still don't agree with teamwide scans. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Everything Dies Same Dung Different Year 1220	Posted - 2015.01.27 02:21:00 - [60] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: team scans need to be removed asap. Unless you're a gal or amarr scout you're ****** if even one guy on the other team is a gal logi. I was under the impression that CCP wanted to introduce team and squad scanners as separate pieces of equipment. If they do ever get around to that, then team scans should have a lower (as in worse) scanning precision than the squad-specific versions. Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof



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