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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.23 06:44:00 -
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I have a question!
Could I form my own corp and attempt to attack a district by myself? |
steve0809
Glitched Connection
64
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Posted - 2015.01.23 07:53:00 -
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The fact that you guys have taken the time to answer these questions and give good input is really cool. |
bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
1392
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Posted - 2015.01.23 10:19:00 -
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After reading I see that one very, very important part of the meta not being mentioned.
Never, ever, ever, ever undervalue tears. They are more precious than ISK, districts and even respect.
If you can keep your tear bucket full (I use to prefer Romans and ML) but any will do these days. lol
As a Dust vet and PC player I can tell you that there is nothing more fun in this game than getting a single tear from your enemy. i'll trade 25-1 with 4k WP for one tear any day :)
All BS aside, being in PC should be your end goal. Like a Little League player. He wants to make MLB not his local softball team.
Lead and Roman are respected in the PC community and will steer you in the right direction. Stay away from guys like myself, Sota Pop and several more. We are bitter vets who are bored/frustrated with the game and have nothing better to do.
Hell, I quit playing in 1.7 to only come back a couple of weeks ago. First night back Roman throws me in a PC against scrubb @ss KEQ(my old corp). I went 1-6 but was #1 in WP lol Good stuff.
Good thread though and I like to see Vets wanting to move up to the end game,
Good luck and remember this; Ancient Exiles. are the only undefeated Corp to ever play PC lol
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
1392
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Posted - 2015.01.23 10:21:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I have a question!
Could I form my own corp and attempt to attack a district by myself?
Shanks, yes, but to be honest, unless you get very lucky, you will fail. Not trying to discourage you, just being honest. you should get Roman or someone to bring your best 5 guys into a PC with him to see how they like it. You and them will be surprised at the dedication, direction and how different it is than a pub or FW.
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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Supacharjed
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
166
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Posted - 2015.01.23 10:27:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:After reading I see that one very, very important part of the meta not being mentioned.
Never, ever, ever, ever undervalue tears. They are more precious than ISK, districts and even respect.
If you can keep your tear bucket full (I use to prefer Romans and ML) but any will do these days. lol
As a Dust vet and PC player I can tell you that there is nothing more fun in this game than getting a single tear from your enemy. i'll trade 25-1 with 4k WP for one tear any day :)
All BS aside, being in PC should be your end goal. Like a Little League player. He wants to make MLB not his local softball team.
Lead and Roman are respected in the PC community and will steer you in the right direction. Stay away from guys like myself, Sota Pop and several more. We are bitter vets who are bored/frustrated with the game and have nothing better to do.
Hell, I quit playing in 1.7 to only come back a couple of weeks ago. First night back Roman throws me in a PC against scrubb @ss KEQ(my old corp). I went 1-6 but was #1 in WP lol Good stuff.
Good thread though and I like to see Vets wanting to move up to the end game,
Good luck and remember this; Ancient Exiles. are the only undefeated Corp to ever play PC lol
Cheers for the input, it's nice to hear things from a bittervet's POV. :P If you can point other PC bittervets in this direction it'd be really appreciated.
Commando CK.0 Proto Combat Rifle
Commando MK.0 Proto Rail Rifle
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
1392
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Posted - 2015.01.23 11:00:00 -
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Supacharjed wrote:bigolenuts wrote:After reading I see that one very, very important part of the meta not being mentioned.
Never, ever, ever, ever undervalue tears. They are more precious than ISK, districts and even respect.
If you can keep your tear bucket full (I use to prefer Romans and ML) but any will do these days. lol
As a Dust vet and PC player I can tell you that there is nothing more fun in this game than getting a single tear from your enemy. i'll trade 25-1 with 4k WP for one tear any day :)
All BS aside, being in PC should be your end goal. Like a Little League player. He wants to make MLB not his local softball team.
Lead and Roman are respected in the PC community and will steer you in the right direction. Stay away from guys like myself, Sota Pop and several more. We are bitter vets who are bored/frustrated with the game and have nothing better to do.
Hell, I quit playing in 1.7 to only come back a couple of weeks ago. First night back Roman throws me in a PC against scrubb @ss KEQ(my old corp). I went 1-6 but was #1 in WP lol Good stuff.
Good thread though and I like to see Vets wanting to move up to the end game,
Good luck and remember this; Ancient Exiles. are the only undefeated Corp to ever play PC lol Cheers for the input, it's nice to hear things from a bittervet's POV. :P If you can point other PC bittervets in this direction it'd be really appreciated.
What made me bitter was Fan Fest 14. The announcement took everything out of me. I had spent much time and money on this game. I was not playing for the moment, I was playing for 5 years down the road. The fact they announced it like they did with no respect to console players put a bad taste in my mouth. Not the first time I've had that either if you get my drift lol
I've been fortunate in Dust. Came over with KEQ from GRAW 2, stayed for about 8-9 months and then moved over to AE where I am now. My corp history will show only moves to corps that were put together by AE members after we retired.
Bitter yes but not by fault of the game but by CCP.
I do wish the game would grow and become what I bought into. They say it will but the results will be on PC. I am not a PC player. I have tried different games over the years and never could get the hang of it.
Again, good luck to you guys getting into PC for the first time or the ones who will try and take it serious. PC is no joke and will test your limits as a player. PC is very draining in more ways than one.
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1663
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Posted - 2015.01.23 11:15:00 -
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To add a little bit more info;
If you want your corporation to get into PC, you need to issue an attack via the starmap to a District in the Molden Heath region of the Eve Universe, under the corproation tab. Once you find a district that isn't locked and is at a suitable time for your corporations activity, you can launch 150 Clones (A Clone Pack) at it for 50,000,000 isk. Depending on the type of District (Cargo Hub, Production Facility, Research Lab), you could be faced with 450 Clones or 300. Most corps change their Districts to a Cargo Hub for more clones, at a cost of 100,000,000 isk.
Once the battle has begun, if the district has 450 clones, and you attacked with 150, that is 450 vs 150, which means the attackers team can only lose 60 clones across 3 matches (90 Clones is the threshold), as after each victory the defender loses a clone packs worth of clones from their original number (450->300->150, though this can vary due to clone regeneration). If the attacker loses over 60 clones in the first match and wins, they will get paid, but there will be no "re-up" (another attack), and they will not take the district. The defender will get no isk, EoM Salvage and SP only, but will retain the district, which will regenerate any lost clones over time.
If the attacker wins the first fight, and the clones look like 325 vs 122, there will be a second fight, 300 vs 122. Now the attacker can lose 32 clones maximum. Realistically, only a team of the bitterest of vets vs a corp with no coordination at all could pull this off, I've witnessed it maybe 3 times myself.
If by some miracle you win we reach the third and final battle, after 2 victories and 2 isk payments, with the enemy getting nothing and their wallets hemorrhaging, the district could be taken, with say 150 vs 91 clones. From this point, most corps go all guns blazing to clone the enemy team faster than they clone them. It doesn't matter if you drop below 90 now, as thid is the last battle. If the defender wins, they retain the district with their first payout. If the attacker wins, they take the district, with a third payout.
Once you take a district it is automatically locked, or after it is sucessfully defended. This is where the term 'District Locking', originates. The only thing that can be done to it at this time is changing the timer. In the Online state, you can move clones to another district if you own multiple (helping regen after an attack if not fully regenerated clones after lock), change the district type as mentioned earlier, change the timer, or abandon the district.
Hope that gives you all a better grasp on what goes through an FCs and Generals mind when deciding on stratergies and attack locations.
-300+ PCs, DMG FC.
"Why build ontop of foundations that aren't solid?"
HRI -> TUL -> FC -> ML -> TLoD -> RE -> DMG
Pilot & Assault.
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pumping up
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2015.01.23 15:12:00 -
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Thanks. Thats definetly gold stuff.
Please help me on my quest to get the Recruiter C-II Dropsuit!
https://dust514.com/recruit/S5kDan/ <3
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