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Rain Da Pain Dead Man's Game RUST415 3	Posted - 2015.01.10 21:19:00 - [1] - Quote Ccp have you ever tried hitting a cal scout with Proto swarms with a railgun? Impossible! At least with splash it would make it somewhat ' easy' even a 25% splash! That's only around 250 dmg! With the slow rof it would not be op at all!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3484	Posted - 2015.01.10 21:21:00 - [2] - Quote You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Rain Da Pain Dead Man's Game RUST415 3	Posted - 2015.01.10 21:23:00 - [3] - Quote So if I sit on a roof and forge gun someone that's not the same thing? They are not 'meant' to kill infantry! It's not a slaying turret anyway but it would give tankers a hand against op av
Breakin Stuff Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 6288	Posted - 2015.01.10 21:34:00 - [4] - Quote Rain Da Pain wrote: So if I sit on a roof and forge gun someone that's not the same thing? They are not 'meant' to kill infantry! It's not a slaying turret anyway but it would give tankers a hand against op av if I can hit a scout with an assault forge body shot, you can figure out how to clip a scout with a rail turret EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 64	Posted - 2015.01.10 21:38:00 - [5] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. Every large gun should be somewhat effective at killing infantry how else are we to defend ourselves? The ideal situation should be it you want to focus on killing infantry use a blaster. If you want to focus on killing vehicles use a railgun. However we should still be able to scare off or kill ( albeit ineffectively ) strafing infantry. How is it fair that some guy can run at us out in the open and push us back. It almost comical in a tragic way. Here I am in a 500,000isk monster and a anti-armour can keep firing at me with his skilless swarm launcher and eventually i'll have to retreat. It's so frustrating. Dust 514. A game about shooting people with super deadly sci-fi guns... and dancing.
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 64	Posted - 2015.01.10 21:43:00 - [6] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Rain Da Pain wrote: So if I sit on a roof and forge gun someone that's not the same thing? They are not 'meant' to kill infantry! It's not a slaying turret anyway but it would give tankers a hand against op av if I can hit a scout with an assault forge body shot, you can figure out how to clip a scout with a rail turret It's much easier to kill infantry that's not aware of you, they're usually running in a straight line. Easy to land a shot on them. However it they are aware there's a guy shooting at them with a railgun then it's easy for them to avoid getting shot. Just start running and throw some zig-zags in there and it just becomes luck if they get hit or not. Dust 514. A game about shooting people with super deadly sci-fi guns... and dancing.
Rain Da Pain Dead Man's Game RUST415 3	Posted - 2015.01.10 22:33:00 - [7] - Quote I know you can say its not for infantry but if you had to drive around in a 400k hunk of metal you would at least want to be able to hit all infantry
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 298	Posted - 2015.01.10 22:39:00 - [8] - Quote Rain Da Pain wrote: So if I sit on a roof and forge gun someone that's not the same thing? They are not 'meant' to kill infantry! It's not a slaying turret anyway but it would give tankers a hand against op av Its much easier to hit infantry with the railgun than it is with the forge gun. Do you really want to go there?
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 460	Posted - 2015.01.10 22:39:00 - [9] - Quote If it kills scouts it will never be implemented and will probably be nerfed. Like the Rail Rifle The State will always survive.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2712	Posted - 2015.01.11 00:37:00 - [10] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. Blaster is terrible. Do you even tank? And with all my experience, do you really mean to say that I shouldn't be allowed to get a body shot on infantry? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3486	Posted - 2015.01.11 00:56:00 - [11] - Quote Toobar Zoobar wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. Every large gun should be somewhat effective at killing infantry how else are we to defend ourselves? The ideal situation should be it you want to focus on killing infantry use a blaster. If you want to focus on killing vehicles use a railgun. However we should still be able to scare off or kill ( albeit ineffectively ) strafing infantry. How is it fair that some guy can run at us out in the open and push us back. It almost comical in a tragic way. Here I am in a 500,000isk monster and a anti-armour can keep firing at me with his skilless swarm launcher and eventually i'll have to retreat. It's so frustrating. Use a small turret and teamwork...duh. Its not that hard. You either get good and hit the infantry, or fit a small turret and have a friend help you, or switch to it if the infantry gets in close. You tanker scrubs amaze me. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3486	Posted - 2015.01.11 00:58:00 - [12] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. Blaster is terrible. Do you even tank? And with all my experience, do you really mean to say that I shouldn't be allowed to get a body shot on infantry? I do actually. You've complimented my tanker alt in game actually, because I blew you up with it. Blaster is fine, its just no longer God mode brokenly OP like before. Now, it requires a small modicum of skill to use, and I still drop 15+ and 0 games with it. Maybe you do just need to get good? "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 718	Posted - 2015.01.11 01:14:00 - [13] - Quote Fit in small blasters or missiles. You're welcome. Changes to Damage mods!
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2712	Posted - 2015.01.11 01:48:00 - [14] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Toobar Zoobar wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. Every large gun should be somewhat effective at killing infantry how else are we to defend ourselves? The ideal situation should be it you want to focus on killing infantry use a blaster. If you want to focus on killing vehicles use a railgun. However we should still be able to scare off or kill ( albeit ineffectively ) strafing infantry. How is it fair that some guy can run at us out in the open and push us back. It almost comical in a tragic way. Here I am in a 500,000isk monster and a anti-armour can keep firing at me with his skilless swarm launcher and eventually i'll have to retreat. It's so frustrating. Use a small turret and teamwork...duh. Its not that hard. You either get good and hit the infantry, or fit a small turret and have a friend help you, or switch to it if the infantry gets in close. You tanker scrubs amaze me. Near impossible to fit a small turret without making the fit weak, yet I can fit two PRO weapons on a PRO suit. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2712	Posted - 2015.01.11 01:49:00 - [15] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. Blaster is terrible. Do you even tank? And with all my experience, do you really mean to say that I shouldn't be allowed to get a body shot on infantry? I do actually. You've complimented my tanker alt in game actually, because I blew you up with it. Blaster is fine, its just no longer God mode brokenly OP like before. Now, it requires a small modicum of skill to use, and I still drop 15+ and 0 games with it. Maybe you do just need to get good? lolwut You must have the wrong person. I don't compliment people. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2712	Posted - 2015.01.11 01:49:00 - [16] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Fit in small blasters or missiles. You're welcome. Near impossible to fit a small turret without gimping the whole tank, yet I can fit two PRO weapons on a PRO suit. Double standards as always. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 936	Posted - 2015.01.11 01:53:00 - [17] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Fit in small blasters or missiles. You're welcome. Near impossible to fit a small turret without gimping the whole tank, yet I can fit two PRO weapons on a PRO suit. Double standards as always. Lol WTF, please stop. Although I'm all for Railguns and Forges getting their splash back(why did they remove it?), you are just making a fool of yourself. No one does it better than PIE Lasers4life "Jesus!" yelled the blues "No, my name is Forever"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2712	Posted - 2015.01.11 01:58:00 - [18] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Fit in small blasters or missiles. You're welcome. Near impossible to fit a small turret without gimping the whole tank, yet I can fit two PRO weapons on a PRO suit. Double standards as always. Lol WTF, please stop. Although I'm all for Railguns and Forges getting their splash back(why did they remove it?), you are just making a fool of yourself. Rails had splash removed because we could aim. Pilot aim had to be nerfed, thus they removed the railgun splash. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1500	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:25:00 - [19] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. You say it as if blasters were actually good at killing infantry. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1500	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:26:00 - [20] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Rain Da Pain wrote: So if I sit on a roof and forge gun someone that's not the same thing? They are not 'meant' to kill infantry! It's not a slaying turret anyway but it would give tankers a hand against op av if I can hit a scout with an assault forge body shot, you can figure out how to clip a scout with a rail turret You know, assault forgeguns have splash damage and enough to one hit kill scouts with. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16494	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:29:00 - [21] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. You should have splash with a Railgun its the only turret in Dust 514 that actually resembles a tank main gun. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1500	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:29:00 - [22] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Toobar Zoobar wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. Every large gun should be somewhat effective at killing infantry how else are we to defend ourselves? The ideal situation should be it you want to focus on killing infantry use a blaster. If you want to focus on killing vehicles use a railgun. However we should still be able to scare off or kill ( albeit ineffectively ) strafing infantry. How is it fair that some guy can run at us out in the open and push us back. It almost comical in a tragic way. Here I am in a 500,000isk monster and a anti-armour can keep firing at me with his skilless swarm launcher and eventually i'll have to retreat. It's so frustrating. Use a small turret and teamwork...duh. Its not that hard. You either get good and hit the infantry, or fit a small turret and have a friend help you, or switch to it if the infantry gets in close. You tanker scrubs amaze me. No team work for thee but team work for me... This went from Infantry perspective to Tank perspective. Tanks have been sloled for a long long time. Except the release of 1.7 but CCP soon fixed it making tanks sh*tty, weak offensively and defensively Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1500	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:30:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. You should have splash with a Railgun its the only turret in Dust 514 that actually resembles a tank main gun. I want this sooo badd . I was thinking if Minmatar vehicles ever get introduced, Minmatar Large Turret would be a Huge massdriver!. But with little to no arc. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1500	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:32:00 - [24] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Fit in small blasters or missiles. You're welcome. Near impossible to fit a small turret without gimping the whole tank, yet I can fit two PRO weapons on a PRO suit. Double standards as always. Lol WTF, please stop. Although I'm all for Railguns and Forges getting their splash back(why did they remove it?), you are just making a fool of yourself. He speaks the truth. Putting on small turrets kills the tank. If you put a second turret on an ADS, you literally just asked to be two shotted by a swarmer. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Finn Colman Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 104	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:40:00 - [25] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Fit in small blasters or missiles. You're welcome. Near impossible to fit a small turret without gimping the whole tank, yet I can fit two PRO weapons on a PRO suit. Double standards as always. Lol WTF, please stop. Although I'm all for Railguns and Forges getting their splash back(why did they remove it?), you are just making a fool of yourself. They removed the splash so that they couldn't kill infantry as easily. PSA: Tell players to terminate in order to access mCRUs.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2712	Posted - 2015.01.11 03:57:00 - [26] - Quote Finn Colman wrote: Forever ETC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Fit in small blasters or missiles. You're welcome. Near impossible to fit a small turret without gimping the whole tank, yet I can fit two PRO weapons on a PRO suit. Double standards as always. Lol WTF, please stop. Although I'm all for Railguns and Forges getting their splash back(why did they remove it?), you are just making a fool of yourself. They removed the splash so that they couldn't kill infantry as easily. We were nerfed for being able to aim. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16494	Posted - 2015.01.11 04:15:00 - [27] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Forever ETC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Fit in small blasters or missiles. You're welcome. Near impossible to fit a small turret without gimping the whole tank, yet I can fit two PRO weapons on a PRO suit. Double standards as always. Lol WTF, please stop. Although I'm all for Railguns and Forges getting their splash back(why did they remove it?), you are just making a fool of yourself. He speaks the truth. Putting on small turrets kills the tank. If you put a second turret on an ADS, you literally just asked to be two shotted by a swarmer. Not on any Shield Tank since my fitting stats are off the charts. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9183	Posted - 2015.01.11 04:21:00 - [28] - Quote For once Sprkr is right, damn that's weird. Blaster suck, terribly. Both small and Large but in different ways. Small blasters suck because they can't kill their only intended, specific, targets. Large Blasters suck not because they aim widely at infantry but because they honestly suck when going against Large Missiles And Large Rails. Both Blasters suffer from the same problem, being outclasses on all fronts by turrets in the same tier. By the way, small rail hit detection and registration is awful. You guys ever use a small rail? There are times when the rail decides not to fire any rounds, or seems like it doesn't, only to spontaneously overheat out of nowhere. P.S. Small turrets completely gimp a vehicle fitting, I may not be a main HAV player (I used to before they made Gallente HAVs suck ass) but I use Dropships and LAVs like crazy (which still suck compared to their Caldari counterparts) so I still know the burden of the over exaggerated small turrets resource requirements. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Alena Ventrallis Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2480	Posted - 2015.01.11 06:02:00 - [29] - Quote The problem is, all large turrets are supposed to be AV according to Rattati. But then he wants small rails to also be AV. Which leaves small missiles and small blasters to be the sole AP turrets in the game. Blasters are laughably broken and almost never seen, and small missiles like to fly off course at 45 degree angles if the vehicle has any sort of movement in any given direction. The only exception I've found to the missile problem is when on the front turret of an ADS. the small railgun nerf reduced their effectiveness in a vehicle fight, which pretty much relegated them to being AP only; but small rails are hideous for misfires, overheating for no reason, and ghost rounds, where the shield pings but no damage is done. This means that vehicles can basically only engage eahc other reliably, and making space to fit AP turrets not only gimps the tank, but those AP turrets don't even work half the time. Thusthe complaints of vehicle pilots. Before we worry about reintroducing Enforcers and MArauders or tweaking fitting on Gunnlogis and MAdrugars, we need to fix the bugs plauging the vehicle turrets so they at least function properly. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1717	Posted - 2015.01.11 06:18:00 - [30] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: You're not supposed to kill infantry with a railgun... If you wanna kill infantry use a blaster. No, large blasters were declared AV. Pro-choice! For hazardous self-activated inertial dampeners! We want to live on the edge (((of MCC)))



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