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CHET CHEWS
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:08:00 -
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I really dont like it when i see scouts with a scrambler rifle just spamming it all over the place and kill you within a Second and not overheating
Almighty Shet shoes & Junior Director of Murphy's-Law
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1994
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:09:00 -
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Waaahhhh!!!!
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2830
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:12:00 -
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For some odd reason since I switched from running mostly Cal Scouts to running mostly Gal Assaults, I don't fear ScRs as much. |
Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
2452
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:13:00 -
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ScR is not being changed, straight from the horse's mouth.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
6782
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:13:00 -
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i say it's not OP enough.
CBM
[Event] Dust Hunger Games
PC, ISK,EVE & Corp Services
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1994
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:16:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:For some odd reason since I switched from running mostly Cal Scouts to running mostly Gal Assaults, I don't fear ScRs as much. What?! You mean the All Powerful God Weapon Otherwise Known As The Scrambler Rifle actually has a weakness that is very easy to exploit?!
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CHET CHEWS
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:18:00 -
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Actually the scr does rip my Ak.o assault with 600 armor and 200 shields without overheating, II have even tested this out the SCR on my personal opini+Śn does too much dmg agaisnt armor
Almighty Shet shoes & Junior Director of Murphy's-Law
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1994
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:19:00 -
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[quote=CHET CHEWS]Actually the scr does rip my Ak.o assault with 600 armor and 200 shields without overheating, II have even tested this out the SCR on my personal opini+Śn does too much dmg agaisnt armor[/quote
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJq4re2d-0 Get gud.
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Dark Taboo
1333
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:21:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:[quote=CHET CHEWS]Actually the scr does rip my Ak.o assault with 600 armor and 200 shields without overheating, II have even tested this out the SCR on my personal opini+Śn does too much dmg agaisnt armor[/quote http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJq4re2d-0Get gud. Just accept it bro it'll get a new damage profile change. Stop being a douche
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CHET CHEWS
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:25:00 -
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Idk why fizzer is being a douche if its just a matter of opinon and after all thisnis just a healthy conversation
Almighty Shet shoes & Junior Director of Murphy's-Law
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1995
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:28:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:[quote=CHET CHEWS]Actually the scr does rip my Ak.o assault with 600 armor and 200 shields without overheating, II have even tested this out the SCR on my personal opini+Śn does too much dmg agaisnt armor[/quote http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJq4re2d-0Get gud. Just accept it bro it'll get a new damage profile change. Stop being a douche
No. I use practically the same fit that he just describe and I have no issues while dealing with other ScR users, besides the ones using higher tiered gear than me(but that just makes sense). Just a little bit of strafing and 80% of them overheat before they can kill me, and I'm using an Amassault.
He just needs to get gud. If I can do it without bitching, so can he.
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
43
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:28:00 -
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CHET CHEWS wrote:Actually the scr does rip my Ak.o assault with 600 armor and 200 shields without overheating, II have even tested this out the SCR on my personal opini+Śn does too much dmg agaisnt armor Lol with damage mods.....you cannot say it chews through armor without them
Emperor Gucci
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CHET CHEWS
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
17
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:32:00 -
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True XD But if a amarr assault uses it its fine but how can a scout do so much dps and still have enough tank to beat my amarr asssault? Btw Gucci like your amarr assault
Almighty Shet shoes & Junior Director of Murphy's-Law
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3369
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:34:00 -
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If I have 0 armor suits, the scrambler is literally an I-win button against me.
It has more DPS vs. armor than a CR, but thats cool too...
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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CHET CHEWS
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
17
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:36:00 -
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Hahah Amor dmg level 5
Almighty Shet shoes & Junior Director of Murphy's-Law
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1996
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:46:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:It has more DPS vs. armor than a CR, but thats cool too...
No. It doesn't.
Max CR Armor DPS: 644 Max ScR Armor DPS: 520
Keep in mind that Max DPS is also much easier to achieve on a CR than it is on an ScR, which widens the gap in real use.
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
43
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:49:00 -
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CHET CHEWS wrote:Actually the scr does rip my Ak.o assault with 600 armor and 200 shields without overheating, II have even tested this out the SCR on my personal opini+Śn does too much dmg agaisnt armor I have tested out your test and I can attest to the fact that your test don't testify ...Jus kidding... what do you expect? are we supposed to overheat before killing something with 800 or less hp? how would we even look at a sentinel ?
Emperor Gucci
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CHET CHEWS
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
17
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:55:00 -
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Well thats the fun thing about this game its about counter play if they have armor tank suits u bring a armor weapon But if its shield you bring in a shield weapon
Almighty Shet shoes & Junior Director of Murphy's-Law
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
2138
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:56:00 -
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Hi im an armor tanker and I think that the RR, CR, HMG, MD, Flaylock, SMG, MAGSEC, and BP are OP because they do too much damage to fast... nerf em CCP
Heavy weapon parity... When CCP Rattati.
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
43
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:59:00 -
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CHET CHEWS wrote:True XD But if a amarr assault uses it its fine but how can a scout do so much dps and still have enough tank to beat my amarr asssault? Btw Gucci like your amarr assault You seen me in battle?! Were you victim or ally ?:D
Emperor Gucci
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
655
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:02:00 -
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ScR is a 1v1 rifle. Stacking armor won't help that much.
Before overheat, you'll be left with 300-400hp. Then face boundless breach smg prof 5.
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Ready for sacrafise [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba].
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1998
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:13:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:ScR is a 1v1 rifle. Stacking armor won't help that much.
Before overheat, you'll be left with 300-400hp. Then face boundless breach smg prof 5. Well, overheat lasts 6 seconds, minimum. So its not like they're just gonna pull out an SMG and immediately finish you when they overheat.
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
786
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:13:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Hi im an armor tanker and I think that the RR, CR, HMG, MD, Flaylock, SMG, MAGSEC, and BP are OP because they do too much damage to fast... nerf em CCP Does any of them take 0.6 seconds to tear your armor down? If not, get bent.
10100111001
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1999
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:21:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Hi im an armor tanker and I think that the RR, CR, HMG, MD, Flaylock, SMG, MAGSEC, and BP are OP because they do too much damage to fast... nerf em CCP Does any of them take 0.6 seconds to tear your armor down? If not, get bent. I love how you always assume the ScR ALWAYS is a Viziam with 3 damage mods, prof 5 , and a modded controller. You do realize that in the real world, most ScRs don't do any more than maybe 475-525 DPS, right? They're not actually doing 1000 DPS...
I mean, I could literally make THE SAME argument with the CR, which can achieve over 1000 armor DPS with 3 damage mods, prof 5, and a modded controller. But I don't, because I'm not ********.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5339
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:33:00 -
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"Too OP"
It's either under powered, balanced, or over powered. Too over powered is like saying "we should tone it down until everything else is balanced, but leaving this gun to remain OP". |
THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1289
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Posted - 2015.01.05 01:09:00 -
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lol get alphad.
Dual tanking is for bad players.
Come play a better game.
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Petra 222 SoM
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
27
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Posted - 2015.01.05 01:22:00 -
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oh dear scrams, how i love the tears you sow.
RR squid is happy, shooting from the back of the pack with impunity.
until my lazors reach out to greet you, friend.
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Research CLONE54344
Sarum Family Rifles
11
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Posted - 2015.01.05 01:28:00 -
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I've had similar feelings then realize they were Amar Assault with bonus and I was being shot by more than one clone. Fear squad of Scrambler Rifle but no single clone; clone. |
Michael Arck
6114
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Posted - 2015.01.05 01:43:00 -
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I see the ScR defense force acted pretty quickly...
If the ScR was nerfed properly, watch millions of tears would flow. Then rage when folks would say to them, "git gud scrub". Oh that would be funny as hell.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
43
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Posted - 2015.01.05 02:03:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Hi im an armor tanker and I think that the RR, CR, HMG, MD, Flaylock, SMG, MAGSEC, and BP are OP because they do too much damage to fast... nerf em CCP Does any of them take 0.6 seconds to tear your armor down? If not, get bent. I love how you always assume the ScR ALWAYS is a Viziam with 3 damage mods, prof 5 , and a modded controller. You do realize that in the real world, most ScRs don't do any more than maybe 475-525 DPS, right? They're not actually doing 1000 DPS... I mean, I could literally make THE SAME argument with the CR, which can achieve over 1000 armor DPS with 3 damage mods, prof 5, and a modded controller. But I don't, because I'm not ********. Every argument he comes up with have those exact specifications ... If every scrambler you are seeing is a viziam then.....Idk you are just SOL
Emperor Gucci
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Lahut K'mar
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2015.01.05 04:44:00 -
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Really? I was just about to ***** and moan about how scramblernades are underpowered, especially with scouts.
The beam is literally visible from space, so it ruins any stealth I had going, the charge-up is a joke because it causes disproportionate heat build-up and turns the player into a beacon, the recoil is insane (it's a bloody lazer!) and I can't kill anything in 15 shots. It would be great for guerrilla shenanigans since it tears through shields, except that it reveals your position like a big flashing light.
I've been with scrambler for a long time now, but lately I've been using the bolt pistol. Bolt pistol has a huge damage output and knows how to use it. He actually makes me kill and is better than scramblernade in every way. I need a real gun.
Horrifying? That's a strange way to spell "romantic".
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3599
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Posted - 2015.01.05 04:58:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mejt0 wrote:ScR is a 1v1 rifle. Stacking armor won't help that much.
Before overheat, you'll be left with 300-400hp. Then face boundless breach smg prof 5. Well, overheat lasts 6 seconds, minimum. So its not like they're just gonna pull out an SMG and immediately finish you when they overheat. Then don't overheat...
Fatal Absolution Director
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 08:18:00 -
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with respecs I have tested all assaults with racial weaponry.
imho best amarr assault fitting is: proto ScR 3 complex ferros 2 complex reps 3 damage mods core locus armor shredding sidearm
that is 9xx dps, over 1k dps vs shields, still 7xx dps against armor. enemies drop in a second. overheat is a nonissue if your enemy drops dead before he can react. only thing that will last more than a second is an armor tanked heavy, but that can be easily overcome by cooking a grenade, throwing it into his face and instantly start to shot at him => grenade will explode when he is deep into armor resulting in dead heavy.
gallente assault can do something similar with TAC Ar but with the same fitting it has less health than my minmatar assault (lol)
Fizzer XCIV wrote: Keep in mind that Max DPS is also much easier to achieve on a CR than it is on an ScR, which widens the gap in real use.
too bad you are wrong...
CR has fire delay, if your just the press button as fast as you can you will lose dps due to pressing the button during delay. button presses have to be timed correctly to get the most dps out of it.
with ScR you simply press button as ******* fast as you can and stop shortly before overheat. |
Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
2456
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Posted - 2015.01.05 08:33:00 -
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My fit is
3x damage mods 1x plate 1x ferroscale 2x reactives 1x repper.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 09:58:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:with respecs I have tested all assaults with racial weaponry. imho best amarr assault fitting is: proto ScR 3 complex ferros 2 complex reps 3 damage mods core locus armor shredding sidearm that is 9xx dps, over 1k dps vs shields, still 7xx dps against armor. enemies drop in a second. overheat is a nonissue if your enemy drops dead before he can react. only thing that will last more than a second is an armor tanked heavy, but that can be easily overcome by cooking a grenade, throwing it into his face and instantly start to shot at him => grenade will explode when he is deep into armor resulting in dead heavy. gallente assault can do something similar with TAC Ar but with the same fitting it has less health than my minmatar assault (lol) Fizzer XCIV wrote: Keep in mind that Max DPS is also much easier to achieve on a CR than it is on an ScR, which widens the gap in real use.
too bad you are wrong... CR has fire delay, if your just the press button as fast as you can you will lose dps due to pressing the button during delay. button presses have to be timed correctly to get the most dps out of it. with ScR you simply press button as ******* fast as you can and stop shortly before overheat. Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:33:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:41:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:45:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right. your posts show the opposite, you are only fooling yourself with your tunnelvision. but please tell me more, amuse us with your "knowledge". |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:48:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right. your posts show the opposite, you are only fooling yourself with your tunnelvision. but please tell me more, amuse us with your "knowledge". CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Dark Taboo
1335
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:53:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right. your posts show the opposite, you are only fooling yourself with your tunnelvision. but please tell me more, amuse us with your "knowledge". CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period. Hahahahahahahahahaha No.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:59:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast? |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:04:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast?
First, of all, there is no way you can press it 10 times per second in a consistent rate. There are people that can fire fast, but nobody can do that. I can fire faster than most people, a lot faster, but I'm not going to buy that bullshit.
So if you want to talk about credibility again, and how I'm the one that's incredible, maybe you should stop lying.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:07:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast? First, of all, there is no way you can press it 10 times per second in a consistent rate. There are people that can fire fast, but nobody can do that. I can fire faster than most people, a lot faster, but I'm not going to buy that bullshit. So if you want to talk about credibility again, and how I'm the one that's incredible, maybe you should stop lying. cool story, tell me more
I can actually consistently do it... problem?
even if I couldnt, average human can press the button fast enough to outdps a CR any day...
in short, you are fooling only yourself. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:12:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast? First, of all, there is no way you can press it 10 times per second in a consistent rate. There are people that can fire fast, but nobody can do that. I can fire faster than most people, a lot faster, but I'm not going to buy that bullshit. So if you want to talk about credibility again, and how I'm the one that's incredible, maybe you should stop lying. cool story, tell me more I can actually consistently do it... problem? even if I couldnt, average human can press the button fast enough to outdps a CR any day... in short, you are fooling only yourself.
No you can't. That bullshit. Lying like to his to prove a point is stupid. Show me video proof that you can do it, if you are so confident.
So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently? Nope. Still bullshit. Most people can get 6-7. Not 8.3... Stop lying.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:16:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:18:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail How is that math fail? That how fast you'd need to fire a ScR to match the max DPS of a CR.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:22:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail How is that math fail? That how fast you'd need to fire a ScR to match the max DPS of a CR.
because you obviously calculated it incorrectly, the result of the correct calculation is different and I let it figure it out by yourself. till then the rest of the community can laugh it ass off. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:34:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail How is that math fail? That how fast you'd need to fire a ScR to match the max DPS of a CR. because you obviously calculated it incorrectly, the result of the correct calculation is different and I let it figure it out by yourself. till then the rest of the community can laugh it ass off.
I'm using based ScR vs CR for reference.
8.3 x 65 = 539.5 (ScR) 27 x 20 = 540 (Max CR DPS)
So excuse me while I laugh at you... Are you even doing math? Did you make it past 4th grade multiplication?
Or are you just spewing bullshit? Because that's what I've been seeing this entire time.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:38:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: I'm using based ScR vs CR for reference.
8.3 x 65 = 539.5 (ScR) 27 x 20 = 540 (Max CR DPS)
So excuse me while I laugh at you... Are you even doing math? Did you make it past 4th grade multiplication?
Or are you just spewing bullshit? Because that's what I've been seeing this entire time.
pro tip: fire delay between bursts
case closed. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:43:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: I'm using based ScR vs CR for reference.
8.3 x 65 = 539.5 (ScR) 27 x 20 = 540 (Max CR DPS)
So excuse me while I laugh at you... Are you even doing math? Did you make it past 4th grade multiplication?
Or are you just spewing bullshit? Because that's what I've been seeing this entire time.
pro tip: fire delay between bursts case closed.
Even more pro tip.
The firing delay is to prevent firing a bust in the middle of another burst. It doesn't happen after the bust is done, but during the burst. But maybe that's why your in the university, so you can learn the things that us vets know. +1 for self improvement man!
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:50:00 -
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I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:52:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt.
And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses.
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
215
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:59:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. Hide behind that alt boy. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1720
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:03:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses.
"insults"? sorry for hurting your feelings with the truth and btw you wrecked yourself with the fact that you do not know about the fire delay which is longer than the ROF listed in the weapons stats.
get yourself a cheap turbo controller and you can check yourself that you wont get more than 5 bursts out of it in a second. you get exactly 5 bursts with the 6th bursts starting in the last split second.
and regarding education, the stuff I have forgotten has yet to be learned by you. |
Oswald Banecroft II
Muteki Armati Virium
10
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:05:00 -
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If someone shoots me with an ScR I am normally dead before I have a chance to change the direction I am moving in. |
Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
215
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:08:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. I'm not sure who you think is defensive and why would anyone want to go down to your level of insults and arrogance, behind an alt. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:11:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. the fire delay which is longer than the ROF
No **** sherlock. That's so the 3rd in the last burst and the 1st round in the next burst can't happen at the same time. With the right timing, the CR can fire at exactly 1200 RPM.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:12:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. I'm not sure who you think is defensive and why would anyone want to go down to your level of insults and arrogance, behind an alt.
I'm the alt of Rattati. You'd better be nice, or I'll nerf your stuff.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:14:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. Hide behind that alt boy.
Lol.
"I'd don't like to insult like you."
*uses insults*
Hypocrite.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1721
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:15:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. the fire delay which is longer than the ROF No **** sherlock. That's so the 3rd in the last burst and the 1st round in the next burst can't happen at the same time. With the right timing, the CR can fire at exactly 1200 RPM. are you just too stupid to comprehend? with the fire delay you cant achieve 1200rpm.
what do you not understand about: with a turbo controller you get 5 bursts? |
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
216
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:18:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. Hide behind that alt boy. Lol. "I'd don't like to insult like you." *uses insults* Hypocrite. I thought of that as a simple fact and statement. But if it offended you then I guess it is an insult and probably true. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:20:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. Hide behind that alt boy. Lol. "I'd don't like to insult like you." *uses insults* Hypocrite. I thought of that as a simple fact and statement. But if it offended you then I guess it is an insult and probably true.
"Your mother is literally made of human *****."
That's an insult. Probably not true. Your logic doesn't hold up.
I'm not an alt. Except im an alt of Rattati.
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taxi bastard
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
273
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:22:00 -
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really i think the numbers speak for themselves, if it was FOTM then everyone would be using them but i am pretty sure that less than 25% of the light arms market is taken by the scrambler rifle and laser rifle so if anything its underused.
assume no modded controller - is it really that strong on any other suit besides the ammar assault?
personally i struggle with it unless i use the ammar assault, its just too unforgiving with the overheat time.
on the ammar assault i like the weapon for 2 reason's a) it has that 25% heat reduction which gives you that bit extra fire time which is lacking on the other suits and b) i always use damage mods in the highs ....they demand them.
as i mostly use basic gear....sometimes advancedi can't speak for proto scram/suit users but realistically vs a heavy suit i would take any other gun.
really if people want to change it.....first look at reducing the effect of the modded controller as most people cannot get near the potential DPS figures. reducing anything bar the ROF will simply make the gun noncompetitive for many and punnish the wrong people. |
Zindorak
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
1563
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:25:00 -
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You smoke something? Cuz the ScR is perfectly fine atm. I run it on my scout and be successful with it
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
216
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:34:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses.
Hide behind that alt boy. Lol. "I'd don't like to insult like you." *uses insults* Hypocrite. I thought of that as a simple fact and statement. But if it offended you then I guess it is an insult and probably true. "Your mother is literally made of human *****." That's an insult. Probably not true. Your logic doesn't hold up. I'm not an alt. Except im an alt of Rattati. So since my supposed insult doesn't hold up to that standarded... you are proving that I'm not a hypocrite? thanks |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:43:00 -
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I don't even know why this thread exists. I -err Rattati already said that he doesn't intend to Nerf the ScR because it is a niche weapon that doesn't get enough use to be considered a problem. This entire thread is completely useless.
Although I did get a laugh out of people trying to defend the CR. Its funny. I don't even think the CR is OP or UP, and wouldn't make a single change to it. But when I compare it to the ScR and how the CR has more DPS in practice, people get so defensive, because they think the ScR is OP. It shatters the illusion they've created for themselves.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1722
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Posted - 2015.01.05 13:21:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: how the CR has more DPS in practice. I already proven that you are wrong. you dont even know that the CR fire delay brings it below the listed "1200rpm" which secludes yourself from any further valid arguments.
all you achieved is fool yourself, make yourself look bad and insulted the whole dust community by calling yourself "vet". |
CHET CHEWS
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2015.01.05 16:20:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:I don't even know why this thread exists. I -err Rattati already said that he doesn't intend to Nerf the ScR because it is a niche weapon that doesn't get enough use to be considered a problem. This entire thread is completely useless.
Although I did get a laugh out of people trying to defend the CR. Its funny. I don't even think the CR is OP or UP, and wouldn't make a single change to it. But when I compare it to the ScR and how the CR has more DPS in practice, people get so defensive, because they think the ScR is OP. It shatters the illusion they've created for themselves. I didnt start this thread to try to nerf the Scr, i just did it to get opinions and or just a good conversation i never said to nerf it or anything, i just wanted to have everyones opinion
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CHET CHEWS
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2015.01.05 16:28:00 -
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Both
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
44
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Posted - 2015.01.05 16:54:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. "insults"? sorry for hurting your feelings with the truth and btw you wrecked yourself with the fact that you do not know about the fire delay which is longer than the ROF listed in the weapons stats. get yourself a cheap turbo controller and you can check yourself that you wont get more than 5 bursts out of it in a second. you get exactly 5 bursts with the 6th bursts starting in the last split second. and regarding education, the stuff I have forgotten has yet to be learned by you. The fact that you just said get yourself a cheap turbo controller......lol you are the scruberry we don't need in this game how do you know this unless you use a turbo? let me see you in the field dude Ill give you a real reason to cry about the ScR. CR is so easy it's not even a debate.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1726
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Posted - 2015.01.05 17:57:00 -
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All Gucci wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. "insults"? sorry for hurting your feelings with the truth and btw you wrecked yourself with the fact that you do not know about the fire delay which is longer than the ROF listed in the weapons stats. get yourself a cheap turbo controller and you can check yourself that you wont get more than 5 bursts out of it in a second. you get exactly 5 bursts with the 6th bursts starting in the last split second. and regarding education, the stuff I have forgotten has yet to be learned by you. The fact that you just said get yourself a cheap turbo controller......lol you are the scruberry we don't need in this game how do you know this unless you use a turbo? let me see you in the field dude Ill give you a real reason to cry about the ScR. CR is so easy it's not even a debate. what do we see here, a CR whine post in disguise... and a poor attempt too.
reading comprehension for the win. where did I said I use it in regular play? oh wait, I dont. you are just another no skill rage kid that runs to the forum in tears when he gets killed. I do not even use the ScR, I recently respecced to PLC
and for your information, I got it as present from my gf and I only use it for testing. it is bad in general play because the sticks are not as good as on the sony controller.
and as already mentioned, the turbo controller can milk out 5 bursts per second. I can outdps that in a ScR without turbo controller with my fingers. that is the whole point (that Fizzer is making things up as usual). if you dont believe it then search for it in youtube, you will eventually find a turbo controller CR video showing it.
in short, git gud. |
Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
296
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Posted - 2015.01.05 20:14:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:[quote=CHET CHEWS]Actually the scr does rip my Ak.o assault with 600 armor and 200 shields without overheating, II have even tested this out the SCR on my personal opini+Śn does too much dmg agaisnt armor[/quote http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJq4re2d-0Get gud. Just accept it bro it'll get a new damage profile change. Stop being a douche No. I use practically the same fit that he just describe and I have no issues while dealing with other ScR users, besides the ones using higher tiered gear than me(but that just makes sense). Just a little bit of strafing and 80% of them overheat before they can kill me, and I'm using an Amassault. He just needs to get gud. If I can do it without bitching, so can he. Oh, and it isn't getting changed. Rattati has already stated that all the metrics point toward the ScR being balanced.
Thats not what he said, he said it was a bit OP, but that he wasnt going to change it anyway because it was a "specialty" weapon.
Bad decision imo since with even the most rudimentary kiting you can kill anything with high armor values, and everything else is trivial to kill with it.
But whatever. |
2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
498
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Posted - 2015.01.05 20:25:00 -
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ScR only pisses me off when coupled with a modded controller. 1on1 in the middle of nowhere against a min scout, sounded like a ACR. My jaw hit the floor when CRW popped up onthe killfeed. No way someone can hit the trigger that fast.
Otherwise, ScR is fine. It does what it should.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
44
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Posted - 2015.01.05 21:06:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:All Gucci wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. "insults"? sorry for hurting your feelings with the truth and btw you wrecked yourself with the fact that you do not know about the fire delay which is longer than the ROF listed in the weapons stats. get yourself a cheap turbo controller and you can check yourself that you wont get more than 5 bursts out of it in a second. you get exactly 5 bursts with the 6th bursts starting in the last split second. and regarding education, the stuff I have forgotten has yet to be learned by you. The fact that you just said get yourself a cheap turbo controller......lol you are the scruberry we don't need in this game how do you know this unless you use a turbo? let me see you in the field dude Ill give you a real reason to cry about the ScR. CR is so easy it's not even a debate. what do we see here, a CR whine post in disguise... and a poor attempt too. reading comprehension for the win. where did I said I use it in regular play? oh wait, I dont. you are just another no skill rage kid that runs to the forum in tears when he gets killed. I do not even use the ScR, I recently respecced to PLC and for your information, I got it as present from my gf and I only use it for testing. it is bad in general play because the sticks are not as good as on the sony controller. and as already mentioned, the turbo controller can milk out 5 bursts per second. I can outdps that in a ScR without turbo controller with my fingers. that is the whole point (that Fizzer is making things up as usual). if you dont believe it then search for it in youtube, you will eventually find a turbo controller CR video showing it. PS: I will happily challenge your CR, I will use a mlt fit with PLC, hide around a corner and one shot you in short, rekt and git gud. Sure you use it only for tests let me correct this statement of yours...You will happily challenge my basic ScR and I will happily send you home crying about a ScR nerf. keep crying scrub and "git gud"... PS: Join T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K Pub channel and we can qsync a 1v1 so I can personally make you cry about my weapon
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