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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.01.05 08:18:00 -
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with respecs I have tested all assaults with racial weaponry.
imho best amarr assault fitting is: proto ScR 3 complex ferros 2 complex reps 3 damage mods core locus armor shredding sidearm
that is 9xx dps, over 1k dps vs shields, still 7xx dps against armor. enemies drop in a second. overheat is a nonissue if your enemy drops dead before he can react. only thing that will last more than a second is an armor tanked heavy, but that can be easily overcome by cooking a grenade, throwing it into his face and instantly start to shot at him => grenade will explode when he is deep into armor resulting in dead heavy.
gallente assault can do something similar with TAC Ar but with the same fitting it has less health than my minmatar assault (lol)
Fizzer XCIV wrote: Keep in mind that Max DPS is also much easier to achieve on a CR than it is on an ScR, which widens the gap in real use.
too bad you are wrong...
CR has fire delay, if your just the press button as fast as you can you will lose dps due to pressing the button during delay. button presses have to be timed correctly to get the most dps out of it.
with ScR you simply press button as ******* fast as you can and stop shortly before overheat. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:33:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:45:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right. your posts show the opposite, you are only fooling yourself with your tunnelvision. but please tell me more, amuse us with your "knowledge". |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:59:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast? |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:07:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast? First, of all, there is no way you can press it 10 times per second in a consistent rate. There are people that can fire fast, but nobody can do that. I can fire faster than most people, a lot faster, but I'm not going to buy that bullshit. So if you want to talk about credibility again, and how I'm the one that's incredible, maybe you should stop lying. cool story, tell me more
I can actually consistently do it... problem?
even if I couldnt, average human can press the button fast enough to outdps a CR any day...
in short, you are fooling only yourself. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:16:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:22:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail How is that math fail? That how fast you'd need to fire a ScR to match the max DPS of a CR.
because you obviously calculated it incorrectly, the result of the correct calculation is different and I let it figure it out by yourself. till then the rest of the community can laugh it ass off. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:38:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: I'm using based ScR vs CR for reference.
8.3 x 65 = 539.5 (ScR) 27 x 20 = 540 (Max CR DPS)
So excuse me while I laugh at you... Are you even doing math? Did you make it past 4th grade multiplication?
Or are you just spewing bullshit? Because that's what I've been seeing this entire time.
pro tip: fire delay between bursts
case closed. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1720
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:03:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses.
"insults"? sorry for hurting your feelings with the truth and btw you wrecked yourself with the fact that you do not know about the fire delay which is longer than the ROF listed in the weapons stats.
get yourself a cheap turbo controller and you can check yourself that you wont get more than 5 bursts out of it in a second. you get exactly 5 bursts with the 6th bursts starting in the last split second.
and regarding education, the stuff I have forgotten has yet to be learned by you. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1721
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:15:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. the fire delay which is longer than the ROF No **** sherlock. That's so the 3rd in the last burst and the 1st round in the next burst can't happen at the same time. With the right timing, the CR can fire at exactly 1200 RPM. are you just too stupid to comprehend? with the fire delay you cant achieve 1200rpm.
what do you not understand about: with a turbo controller you get 5 bursts? |
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.01.05 13:21:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: how the CR has more DPS in practice. I already proven that you are wrong. you dont even know that the CR fire delay brings it below the listed "1200rpm" which secludes yourself from any further valid arguments.
all you achieved is fool yourself, make yourself look bad and insulted the whole dust community by calling yourself "vet". |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1726
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Posted - 2015.01.05 17:57:00 -
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All Gucci wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. "insults"? sorry for hurting your feelings with the truth and btw you wrecked yourself with the fact that you do not know about the fire delay which is longer than the ROF listed in the weapons stats. get yourself a cheap turbo controller and you can check yourself that you wont get more than 5 bursts out of it in a second. you get exactly 5 bursts with the 6th bursts starting in the last split second. and regarding education, the stuff I have forgotten has yet to be learned by you. The fact that you just said get yourself a cheap turbo controller......lol you are the scruberry we don't need in this game how do you know this unless you use a turbo? let me see you in the field dude Ill give you a real reason to cry about the ScR. CR is so easy it's not even a debate. what do we see here, a CR whine post in disguise... and a poor attempt too.
reading comprehension for the win. where did I said I use it in regular play? oh wait, I dont. you are just another no skill rage kid that runs to the forum in tears when he gets killed. I do not even use the ScR, I recently respecced to PLC
and for your information, I got it as present from my gf and I only use it for testing. it is bad in general play because the sticks are not as good as on the sony controller.
and as already mentioned, the turbo controller can milk out 5 bursts per second. I can outdps that in a ScR without turbo controller with my fingers. that is the whole point (that Fizzer is making things up as usual). if you dont believe it then search for it in youtube, you will eventually find a turbo controller CR video showing it.
in short, git gud. |
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