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Lahut K'mar
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2015.01.05 04:44:00 -
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Really? I was just about to ***** and moan about how scramblernades are underpowered, especially with scouts.
The beam is literally visible from space, so it ruins any stealth I had going, the charge-up is a joke because it causes disproportionate heat build-up and turns the player into a beacon, the recoil is insane (it's a bloody lazer!) and I can't kill anything in 15 shots. It would be great for guerrilla shenanigans since it tears through shields, except that it reveals your position like a big flashing light.
I've been with scrambler for a long time now, but lately I've been using the bolt pistol. Bolt pistol has a huge damage output and knows how to use it. He actually makes me kill and is better than scramblernade in every way. I need a real gun.
Horrifying? That's a strange way to spell "romantic".
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3599
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Posted - 2015.01.05 04:58:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mejt0 wrote:ScR is a 1v1 rifle. Stacking armor won't help that much.
Before overheat, you'll be left with 300-400hp. Then face boundless breach smg prof 5. Well, overheat lasts 6 seconds, minimum. So its not like they're just gonna pull out an SMG and immediately finish you when they overheat. Then don't overheat...
Fatal Absolution Director
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 08:18:00 -
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with respecs I have tested all assaults with racial weaponry.
imho best amarr assault fitting is: proto ScR 3 complex ferros 2 complex reps 3 damage mods core locus armor shredding sidearm
that is 9xx dps, over 1k dps vs shields, still 7xx dps against armor. enemies drop in a second. overheat is a nonissue if your enemy drops dead before he can react. only thing that will last more than a second is an armor tanked heavy, but that can be easily overcome by cooking a grenade, throwing it into his face and instantly start to shot at him => grenade will explode when he is deep into armor resulting in dead heavy.
gallente assault can do something similar with TAC Ar but with the same fitting it has less health than my minmatar assault (lol)
Fizzer XCIV wrote: Keep in mind that Max DPS is also much easier to achieve on a CR than it is on an ScR, which widens the gap in real use.
too bad you are wrong...
CR has fire delay, if your just the press button as fast as you can you will lose dps due to pressing the button during delay. button presses have to be timed correctly to get the most dps out of it.
with ScR you simply press button as ******* fast as you can and stop shortly before overheat. |
Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
2456
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Posted - 2015.01.05 08:33:00 -
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My fit is
3x damage mods 1x plate 1x ferroscale 2x reactives 1x repper.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 09:58:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:with respecs I have tested all assaults with racial weaponry. imho best amarr assault fitting is: proto ScR 3 complex ferros 2 complex reps 3 damage mods core locus armor shredding sidearm that is 9xx dps, over 1k dps vs shields, still 7xx dps against armor. enemies drop in a second. overheat is a nonissue if your enemy drops dead before he can react. only thing that will last more than a second is an armor tanked heavy, but that can be easily overcome by cooking a grenade, throwing it into his face and instantly start to shot at him => grenade will explode when he is deep into armor resulting in dead heavy. gallente assault can do something similar with TAC Ar but with the same fitting it has less health than my minmatar assault (lol) Fizzer XCIV wrote: Keep in mind that Max DPS is also much easier to achieve on a CR than it is on an ScR, which widens the gap in real use.
too bad you are wrong... CR has fire delay, if your just the press button as fast as you can you will lose dps due to pressing the button during delay. button presses have to be timed correctly to get the most dps out of it. with ScR you simply press button as ******* fast as you can and stop shortly before overheat. Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:33:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:41:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:45:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right. your posts show the opposite, you are only fooling yourself with your tunnelvision. but please tell me more, amuse us with your "knowledge". |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:48:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right. your posts show the opposite, you are only fooling yourself with your tunnelvision. but please tell me more, amuse us with your "knowledge". CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Dark Taboo
1335
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:53:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right. your posts show the opposite, you are only fooling yourself with your tunnelvision. but please tell me more, amuse us with your "knowledge". CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period. Hahahahahahahahahaha No.
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personal goals
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:59:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast? |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:04:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast?
First, of all, there is no way you can press it 10 times per second in a consistent rate. There are people that can fire fast, but nobody can do that. I can fire faster than most people, a lot faster, but I'm not going to buy that bullshit.
So if you want to talk about credibility again, and how I'm the one that's incredible, maybe you should stop lying.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:07:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast? First, of all, there is no way you can press it 10 times per second in a consistent rate. There are people that can fire fast, but nobody can do that. I can fire faster than most people, a lot faster, but I'm not going to buy that bullshit. So if you want to talk about credibility again, and how I'm the one that's incredible, maybe you should stop lying. cool story, tell me more
I can actually consistently do it... problem?
even if I couldnt, average human can press the button fast enough to outdps a CR any day...
in short, you are fooling only yourself. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:12:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast? First, of all, there is no way you can press it 10 times per second in a consistent rate. There are people that can fire fast, but nobody can do that. I can fire faster than most people, a lot faster, but I'm not going to buy that bullshit. So if you want to talk about credibility again, and how I'm the one that's incredible, maybe you should stop lying. cool story, tell me more I can actually consistently do it... problem? even if I couldnt, average human can press the button fast enough to outdps a CR any day... in short, you are fooling only yourself.
No you can't. That bullshit. Lying like to his to prove a point is stupid. Show me video proof that you can do it, if you are so confident.
So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently? Nope. Still bullshit. Most people can get 6-7. Not 8.3... Stop lying.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:16:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:18:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail How is that math fail? That how fast you'd need to fire a ScR to match the max DPS of a CR.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:22:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail How is that math fail? That how fast you'd need to fire a ScR to match the max DPS of a CR.
because you obviously calculated it incorrectly, the result of the correct calculation is different and I let it figure it out by yourself. till then the rest of the community can laugh it ass off. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:34:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail How is that math fail? That how fast you'd need to fire a ScR to match the max DPS of a CR. because you obviously calculated it incorrectly, the result of the correct calculation is different and I let it figure it out by yourself. till then the rest of the community can laugh it ass off.
I'm using based ScR vs CR for reference.
8.3 x 65 = 539.5 (ScR) 27 x 20 = 540 (Max CR DPS)
So excuse me while I laugh at you... Are you even doing math? Did you make it past 4th grade multiplication?
Or are you just spewing bullshit? Because that's what I've been seeing this entire time.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:38:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: I'm using based ScR vs CR for reference.
8.3 x 65 = 539.5 (ScR) 27 x 20 = 540 (Max CR DPS)
So excuse me while I laugh at you... Are you even doing math? Did you make it past 4th grade multiplication?
Or are you just spewing bullshit? Because that's what I've been seeing this entire time.
pro tip: fire delay between bursts
case closed. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:43:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: I'm using based ScR vs CR for reference.
8.3 x 65 = 539.5 (ScR) 27 x 20 = 540 (Max CR DPS)
So excuse me while I laugh at you... Are you even doing math? Did you make it past 4th grade multiplication?
Or are you just spewing bullshit? Because that's what I've been seeing this entire time.
pro tip: fire delay between bursts case closed.
Even more pro tip.
The firing delay is to prevent firing a bust in the middle of another burst. It doesn't happen after the bust is done, but during the burst. But maybe that's why your in the university, so you can learn the things that us vets know. +1 for self improvement man!
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
215
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:50:00 -
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I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:52:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt.
And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses.
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
215
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:59:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. Hide behind that alt boy. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1720
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:03:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses.
"insults"? sorry for hurting your feelings with the truth and btw you wrecked yourself with the fact that you do not know about the fire delay which is longer than the ROF listed in the weapons stats.
get yourself a cheap turbo controller and you can check yourself that you wont get more than 5 bursts out of it in a second. you get exactly 5 bursts with the 6th bursts starting in the last split second.
and regarding education, the stuff I have forgotten has yet to be learned by you. |
Oswald Banecroft II
Muteki Armati Virium
10
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:05:00 -
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If someone shoots me with an ScR I am normally dead before I have a chance to change the direction I am moving in. |
Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
215
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:08:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. I'm not sure who you think is defensive and why would anyone want to go down to your level of insults and arrogance, behind an alt. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:11:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. the fire delay which is longer than the ROF
No **** sherlock. That's so the 3rd in the last burst and the 1st round in the next burst can't happen at the same time. With the right timing, the CR can fire at exactly 1200 RPM.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:12:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. I'm not sure who you think is defensive and why would anyone want to go down to your level of insults and arrogance, behind an alt.
I'm the alt of Rattati. You'd better be nice, or I'll nerf your stuff.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:14:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. Hide behind that alt boy.
Lol.
"I'd don't like to insult like you."
*uses insults*
Hypocrite.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1721
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:15:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. the fire delay which is longer than the ROF No **** sherlock. That's so the 3rd in the last burst and the 1st round in the next burst can't happen at the same time. With the right timing, the CR can fire at exactly 1200 RPM. are you just too stupid to comprehend? with the fire delay you cant achieve 1200rpm.
what do you not understand about: with a turbo controller you get 5 bursts? |
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