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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1994
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:09:00 -
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Waaahhhh!!!!
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1994
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:16:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:For some odd reason since I switched from running mostly Cal Scouts to running mostly Gal Assaults, I don't fear ScRs as much. What?! You mean the All Powerful God Weapon Otherwise Known As The Scrambler Rifle actually has a weakness that is very easy to exploit?!
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1994
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:19:00 -
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[quote=CHET CHEWS]Actually the scr does rip my Ak.o assault with 600 armor and 200 shields without overheating, II have even tested this out the SCR on my personal opini+Śn does too much dmg agaisnt armor[/quote
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJq4re2d-0 Get gud.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1995
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:28:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:[quote=CHET CHEWS]Actually the scr does rip my Ak.o assault with 600 armor and 200 shields without overheating, II have even tested this out the SCR on my personal opini+Śn does too much dmg agaisnt armor[/quote http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJq4re2d-0Get gud. Just accept it bro it'll get a new damage profile change. Stop being a douche
No. I use practically the same fit that he just describe and I have no issues while dealing with other ScR users, besides the ones using higher tiered gear than me(but that just makes sense). Just a little bit of strafing and 80% of them overheat before they can kill me, and I'm using an Amassault.
He just needs to get gud. If I can do it without bitching, so can he.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1996
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:46:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:It has more DPS vs. armor than a CR, but thats cool too...
No. It doesn't.
Max CR Armor DPS: 644 Max ScR Armor DPS: 520
Keep in mind that Max DPS is also much easier to achieve on a CR than it is on an ScR, which widens the gap in real use.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1998
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:13:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:ScR is a 1v1 rifle. Stacking armor won't help that much.
Before overheat, you'll be left with 300-400hp. Then face boundless breach smg prof 5. Well, overheat lasts 6 seconds, minimum. So its not like they're just gonna pull out an SMG and immediately finish you when they overheat.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1999
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:21:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Hi im an armor tanker and I think that the RR, CR, HMG, MD, Flaylock, SMG, MAGSEC, and BP are OP because they do too much damage to fast... nerf em CCP Does any of them take 0.6 seconds to tear your armor down? If not, get bent. I love how you always assume the ScR ALWAYS is a Viziam with 3 damage mods, prof 5 , and a modded controller. You do realize that in the real world, most ScRs don't do any more than maybe 475-525 DPS, right? They're not actually doing 1000 DPS...
I mean, I could literally make THE SAME argument with the CR, which can achieve over 1000 armor DPS with 3 damage mods, prof 5, and a modded controller. But I don't, because I'm not ********.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 09:58:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:with respecs I have tested all assaults with racial weaponry. imho best amarr assault fitting is: proto ScR 3 complex ferros 2 complex reps 3 damage mods core locus armor shredding sidearm that is 9xx dps, over 1k dps vs shields, still 7xx dps against armor. enemies drop in a second. overheat is a nonissue if your enemy drops dead before he can react. only thing that will last more than a second is an armor tanked heavy, but that can be easily overcome by cooking a grenade, throwing it into his face and instantly start to shot at him => grenade will explode when he is deep into armor resulting in dead heavy. gallente assault can do something similar with TAC Ar but with the same fitting it has less health than my minmatar assault (lol) Fizzer XCIV wrote: Keep in mind that Max DPS is also much easier to achieve on a CR than it is on an ScR, which widens the gap in real use.
too bad you are wrong... CR has fire delay, if your just the press button as fast as you can you will lose dps due to pressing the button during delay. button presses have to be timed correctly to get the most dps out of it. with ScR you simply press button as ******* fast as you can and stop shortly before overheat. Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:41:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:48:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lolno. I'm not even going to east the time explaining how you are wrong. You should just know that you are wrong, because its that obvious.
if you had any credibility to begin with then it would anyway by flushed down the toilet by this stupid trollpost ... Lol. As if credibility is tied to how badly I treat you. Credibility is tied to how often I am right. And in this case, I'm right. your posts show the opposite, you are only fooling yourself with your tunnelvision. but please tell me more, amuse us with your "knowledge". CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:04:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast?
First, of all, there is no way you can press it 10 times per second in a consistent rate. There are people that can fire fast, but nobody can do that. I can fire faster than most people, a lot faster, but I'm not going to buy that bullshit.
So if you want to talk about credibility again, and how I'm the one that's incredible, maybe you should stop lying.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:12:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: CR max refire rate: 300 RPM ScR max refire rate: 600 RPM
Only one of those is possible to sustain without a modded controller. CRs have higher DPS than ScRs in actual combat. Period.
so your argument is your inability to press button very fast? First, of all, there is no way you can press it 10 times per second in a consistent rate. There are people that can fire fast, but nobody can do that. I can fire faster than most people, a lot faster, but I'm not going to buy that bullshit. So if you want to talk about credibility again, and how I'm the one that's incredible, maybe you should stop lying. cool story, tell me more I can actually consistently do it... problem? even if I couldnt, average human can press the button fast enough to outdps a CR any day... in short, you are fooling only yourself.
No you can't. That bullshit. Lying like to his to prove a point is stupid. Show me video proof that you can do it, if you are so confident.
So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently? Nope. Still bullshit. Most people can get 6-7. Not 8.3... Stop lying.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:18:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail How is that math fail? That how fast you'd need to fire a ScR to match the max DPS of a CR.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:34:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: So average people can fire 8.3 times per second consistently?
math fail How is that math fail? That how fast you'd need to fire a ScR to match the max DPS of a CR. because you obviously calculated it incorrectly, the result of the correct calculation is different and I let it figure it out by yourself. till then the rest of the community can laugh it ass off.
I'm using based ScR vs CR for reference.
8.3 x 65 = 539.5 (ScR) 27 x 20 = 540 (Max CR DPS)
So excuse me while I laugh at you... Are you even doing math? Did you make it past 4th grade multiplication?
Or are you just spewing bullshit? Because that's what I've been seeing this entire time.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:43:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote: I'm using based ScR vs CR for reference.
8.3 x 65 = 539.5 (ScR) 27 x 20 = 540 (Max CR DPS)
So excuse me while I laugh at you... Are you even doing math? Did you make it past 4th grade multiplication?
Or are you just spewing bullshit? Because that's what I've been seeing this entire time.
pro tip: fire delay between bursts case closed.
Even more pro tip.
The firing delay is to prevent firing a bust in the middle of another burst. It doesn't happen after the bust is done, but during the burst. But maybe that's why your in the university, so you can learn the things that us vets know. +1 for self improvement man!
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:52:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt.
And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:11:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. the fire delay which is longer than the ROF
No **** sherlock. That's so the 3rd in the last burst and the 1st round in the next burst can't happen at the same time. With the right timing, the CR can fire at exactly 1200 RPM.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:12:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. I'm not sure who you think is defensive and why would anyone want to go down to your level of insults and arrogance, behind an alt.
I'm the alt of Rattati. You'd better be nice, or I'll nerf your stuff.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:14:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. Hide behind that alt boy.
Lol.
"I'd don't like to insult like you."
*uses insults*
Hypocrite.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:20:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I don't know who's alt you are fizzer, but you are quiet the douche when defending your crutch. I'm Ratatti's alt. And lol at the crutch comment. I use a CR, ******. I love watching how defensive people get when I wreck them with proof and math. Its ******* funny. They try to retaliate with insults. If you want to get on my level, you'll have to use math and proffs as well, dumbasses. Hide behind that alt boy. Lol. "I'd don't like to insult like you." *uses insults* Hypocrite. I thought of that as a simple fact and statement. But if it offended you then I guess it is an insult and probably true.
"Your mother is literally made of human *****."
That's an insult. Probably not true. Your logic doesn't hold up.
I'm not an alt. Except im an alt of Rattati.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2010
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:43:00 -
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I don't even know why this thread exists. I -err Rattati already said that he doesn't intend to Nerf the ScR because it is a niche weapon that doesn't get enough use to be considered a problem. This entire thread is completely useless.
Although I did get a laugh out of people trying to defend the CR. Its funny. I don't even think the CR is OP or UP, and wouldn't make a single change to it. But when I compare it to the ScR and how the CR has more DPS in practice, people get so defensive, because they think the ScR is OP. It shatters the illusion they've created for themselves.
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