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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.01.06 16:52:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:All Gucci wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:
over 70% of the players I see are using it
Not even remotely close to 70%. 7.025263% of the weapons used are Scrambler Rifles. This includes Assault Scramblers. Exaggerate much? Piraten Hovnoret wrote:
more and more ppl are using the SCR
The trend is actually showing that less and less people are using them. You literally could not be more wrong. Source: http://dust.thang.dk/market_historycategory.phpFor Reference. ScRs are the pink line. Just so you can get an idea, Sniper Rifles are the maroon line above it. Lol more lies from ScR cry babys , Idk where you guys find the time to exaggerate,cry ,and lie all at the same time  did you click the link he posted or are you just dumb?
yes I did , I clearly see what he is talking about.... are you here to cry about my ScR to or are you just dumb ?
Emperor Gucci
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
719
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:01:00 -
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I actually misread your post, All Gucci, apologies.
I was under the impression you were contesting Fizzer's proof to ScR usage, my bad.  |
All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.01.06 20:58:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:I actually misread your post, All Gucci, apologies. I was under the impression you were contesting Fizzer's proof to ScR usage, my bad.
You Gucci bro  it happens....now swear your allegiance to third rock!! jp 
Emperor Gucci
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
16447
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Posted - 2015.01.06 21:22:00 -
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All Gucci wrote:
yes I did , I clearly see what he is talking about.... are you here to cry about my ScR to or are you just dumb ?
However this only refers the the number of units sold. It could also serve to represent that ScR users are dying less frequently and therefore need less units per month.
Though either interpretation at this point is nothing but speculation.
Honestly when you factor in the ScR's racial traits and the suit it was arguably intended to be used on, the Amarr Assault, I can see why it would sell less units per month than another suit especially if the ScR users are kitting battles at them optimal ranges.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4975
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Posted - 2015.01.06 21:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:All Gucci wrote:
yes I did , I clearly see what he is talking about.... are you here to cry about my ScR to or are you just dumb ?
However this only refers the the number of units sold. It could also serve to represent that ScR users are dying less frequently and therefore need less units per month. Though either interpretation at this point is nothing but speculation. Honestly when you factor in the ScR's racial traits and the suit it was arguably intended to be used on, the Amarr Assault, I can see why it would sell less units per month than another suit especially if the ScR users are kitting battles at them optimal ranges.
Kit? I remember the good ol' days when I could go toe to toe with heavies by strafing :(
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wiseguy12
Sector Combat Solutions and Logistics
97
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Posted - 2015.01.06 22:25:00 -
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I agree with rattati it is a great gun against shields. I have cal suits mostly and scramblers destroy me. I also have proto scramblers the key to killing armor is headshots or just don't engage within there guns range. Which rattati should add in is the ability look at an enemy's gun and know what it is, like you can with vehicles. Also rattati please look at the tactical AR I feel that gun is a little to good.
Pro Caldari assault and sentinel.
Proto magsec, Forgegun, sniper, HMG, and Rail Rifle
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.01.06 22:37:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:All Gucci wrote:
yes I did , I clearly see what he is talking about.... are you here to cry about my ScR to or are you just dumb ?
However this only refers the the number of units sold. It could also serve to represent that ScR users are dying less frequently and therefore need less units per month. Though either interpretation at this point is nothing but speculation. Honestly when you factor in the ScR's racial traits and the suit it was arguably intended to be used on, the Amarr Assault, I can see why it would sell less units per month than another suit especially if the ScR users are kitting battles at them optimal ranges.
I am aware of that , if only we could have weapon K/D ratios and suit K/D ratios or even suit+weapon K/D ratios... Lol I feel like any amarr not using a ScR dies more often. with such info we could argue for a buff to our suit since our weapon got nerfed.
Emperor Gucci
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2047
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:All Gucci wrote:
yes I did , I clearly see what he is talking about.... are you here to cry about my ScR to or are you just dumb ?
However this only refers the the number of units sold. It could also serve to represent that ScR users are dying less frequently and therefore need less units per month. Though either interpretation at this point is nothing but speculation. Honestly when you factor in the ScR's racial traits and the suit it was arguably intended to be used on, the Amarr Assault, I can see why it would sell less units per month than another suit especially if the ScR users are kitting battles at them optimal ranges.
Rattati has stated that there is a strong correlation between market data and performance stats.
So while its probably not perfectly accurate, the market data can be used to get a feel for how well a weapon or suit is performing.
I'd go look for the post, but its somewhere in the Development Discussion Archives, and every thread in there has 15-20 pages. I just don't have the patience for that.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6906
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Posted - 2015.01.07 12:36:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:there is nothing wrong with the scrambler rifle right now, it is one of the most efficient rifles, even a tad OP. The reason I don't intend to nerf them is that they are specialty weapons and not the cause of the majority of kills. The ASCR I have been playing with to understand its flaws, and I don't get why its not used, it destroys calscouts with hipfire, it has no recoil, the best scope, the most ammo and clipsize, and heat is not really a problem. But until players start using it, we need to make it incrementally better. You know it is not a bad thing to have good weapons which are undiscovered. ... Or I could just write a guide about it like I did with Remote Explosives and the SMG. Those were once undiscovered weapons with little usage too, before I wrote guides on how to use them.
The SMG has been overused since open Beta. Anyways, people don't visit these forums enough to have any sort of guide change the number of people using certain weapons at any rate.
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Templar XIII
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2015.01.26 00:13:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:there is nothing wrong with the scrambler rifle right now, it is one of the most efficient rifles, even a tad OP. The reason I don't intend to nerf them is that they are specialty weapons and not the cause of the majority of kills. The ASCR I have been playing with to understand its flaws, and I don't get why its not used, it destroys calscouts with hipfire, it has no recoil, the best scope, the most ammo and clipsize, and heat is not really a problem. But until players start using it, we need to make it incrementally better.
Rattati, if you really still don't know what exactly is wrong with the ASCR, take the APEX Amarr Logistics
suit and have a few matches with it, you will realize rather quick, what exactly is wrong. [a hint: nerf-gun]
After those test-matches try out the APEX Minmatar logistics suit to have an ACR as a comparison.
You will see how grave the +20 / -20 damage profile can impact a weapon once it hits armor of any
kind tougher than that on a light dropsuit.
[In case the ACR was not enough, try the BAR of the APEX Gallente Logistics and the ARR from the
APEX Caldari suit. Try not to be mislead by the sloppy module distribution on each of these suits
which hampers their performance further, but that is for a different thread.] |
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
1432
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Posted - 2015.01.26 06:50:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:
surley you can do something about turbo-controller scrams.
I think this isn't nearly as big of a problem as you think it is. The reason turbo controllers were so popular with the TacAR fiasco was there was no punishment for it. With the ScR there's a good amount of kick and the overheat mechanic holding you back. Using a turbo controller with it would honestly probably be terrible.
Plus there are a lot of people out there who don't use turbo and genuinely have a wicked trigger finger. Like me. :^)
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1882
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Posted - 2015.01.26 07:27:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:there is nothing wrong with the scrambler rifle right now, it is one of the most efficient rifles, even a tad OP. The reason I don't intend to nerf them is that they are specialty weapons and not the cause of the majority of kills. The ASCR I have been playing with to understand its flaws, and I don't get why its not used, it destroys calscouts with hipfire, it has no recoil, the best scope, the most ammo and clipsize, and heat is not really a problem. But until players start using it, we need to make it incrementally better.
The issue that I see is the damage profile plus the dispersion at optimal range plus overheat makes it near impossible to get through armor.
If possible I think a +15 -15 damage profile on this weapon would probably come close to making it OP. This would make it fit well against armor with the amount of ammo and over heat it is currently set at. It would still require a decent amount of skill to apply enough damage for a kill with the amount of dispersion and overheat it has right now.
Another reduction to dispersion would move closer to making it a good weapon. This would risk making it too much of a CQC weapon.
Ammo increase plus reduction in over heat. This would make it more able to kill armor by skilled players with out sending you running for a nanohive. I like this option the least as it only enables us that are use to the broken nature of it.
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rasputin900000
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
27
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Posted - 2015.01.26 13:02:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:there is nothing wrong with the scrambler rifle right now, it is one of the most efficient rifles, even a tad OP. The reason I don't intend to nerf them is that they are specialty weapons and not the cause of the majority of kills. The ASCR I have been playing with to understand its flaws, and I don't get why its not used, it destroys calscouts with hipfire, it has no recoil, the best scope, the most ammo and clipsize, and heat is not really a problem. But until players start using it, we need to make it incrementally better.
Mainly they're not used because the regular SCR and the turbo button. Why would they replace it with a weaker gun when they have the equivalent to full auto and almost twice the damage ? If you guys really want someone to use the assault SCR you're going to have to break the turbo crutch most of these guys are hobbling about on. The reg SCR is a great weapon except for the turbo flaw. There's a few out there who are saying the same thing I am and there's a few saying it isn't a problem, to the disbelievers get on 2 hours before downtime then say turbo controllers aren't a problem I don't think you will. Yes they work with more weapons than a SCR but most others have so much kick you don't really see them used as much to be considered a problem like the use with the SCR. |
All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
118
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Posted - 2015.01.26 14:28:00 -
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rasputin900000 wrote:
Mainly they're not used because the regular SCR and the turbo button. Why would they replace it with a weaker gun when they have the equivalent to full auto and almost twice the damage ? If you guys really want someone to use the assault SCR you're going to have to break the turbo crutch most of these guys are hobbling about on. The reg SCR is a great weapon except for the turbo flaw. There's a few out there who are saying the same thing I am and there's a few saying it isn't a problem, to the disbelievers get on 2 hours before downtime then say turbo controllers aren't a problem I don't think you will. Yes they work with more weapons than a SCR but most others have so much kick you don't really see them used as much to be considered a problem like the use with the SCR.
All the weapons benefit from turbo usage not just the ScR there is a video on youtube I cam make you feel stupid with if you want me to find the link... the only reason there is a problem is the ScR in the right hands are deadly as ****.....so turbo fags wanna try to be as deadly. ScR with turbos never charge shot..that's how you know a turbo from a skilled player. If the ScR gets changed then all the other weapons need to have higher recoil and dispersion because turbos affect that as well
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Alena Ventrallis
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
2589
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Posted - 2015.03.05 16:52:00 -
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Bump.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
35
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Posted - 2015.03.05 19:28:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:there is nothing wrong with the scrambler rifle right now, it is one of the most efficient rifles, even a tad OP. The reason I don't intend to nerf them is that they are specialty weapons and not the cause of the majority of kills. The ASCR I have been playing with to understand its flaws, and I don't get why its not used, it destroys calscouts with hipfire, it has no recoil, the best scope, the most ammo and clipsize, and heat is not really a problem. But until players start using it, we need to make it incrementally better.
The assault scrambler is okay a decent weapon.... I use the basic version..... it is just the regular scrambler is a lot better.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
563
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Posted - 2015.03.06 01:49:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:there is nothing wrong with the scrambler rifle right now, it is one of the most efficient rifles, even a tad OP. The reason I don't intend to nerf them is that they are specialty weapons and not the cause of the majority of kills. The ASCR I have been playing with to understand its flaws, and I don't get why its not used, it destroys calscouts with hipfire, it has no recoil, the best scope, the most ammo and clipsize, and heat is not really a problem. But until players start using it, we need to make it incrementally better.
Thank you, I was afraid the masses would cry and make you guys hurt my dear sweet ScR ;~; <3
G.L.O.R.Y Soldier,
I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
VP Gaming Alliance
1019
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Posted - 2015.03.06 17:26:00 -
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I have gone against proto amarr assault with pro ScR with my pro MinASS with pro CR and duel damage mods.
I was duel tanked and the ScR still wrecked me and I was landing my shoots.
A cal assault would be up the creek.
I can take a galASS with pro AR within his optimal but it isn't easy.
That's what I see in game all the time, ScR is OP in the hands of an amazing twich trigger finger or modded controller (heat is based off time fired and not per shoot from what I remember)
So basically CCP has made a weapon the is only OP by a small percentage of the player base, but that's ok...
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