DUST Search - Any news on Legion?

SuperMido wrote:

DaReaperPW wrote:

The funny thing about concepts... is they look nice on paper and in scripted non completed demo's but are a totally different animal when deployed. I'm betting 90% of what people think SC will be, will be gutted. And SC is instanced, sharded, mess.

EVE is not. *shrugs*

I totally agree with you here. And Dust 514 would be the PERFECT example as to how concepts can look amazing, and then turn out half ass. And how demos and trailers can throw us off, CCP proved all of that. BUT, I will disagree with you when it comes to StarCitizen, with 68 Million dollars and counting, open development directly with the fans, its hard to fail. Also, everything they promised so far, from hangars, to the Arena Commander module, they've delivered on.

You're right about SC being instanced tho, they just simply can't have everyone be anywhere at the same time, CryEngine limitations, especially with the level of fidelity they're going after. But, in-case you didn't know, the universe WILL be persistent, so if you find a jump point, or if you kill this badass NPC pirate, or claim a piece of territory, it will be YOU and just you who did it. That NPC won't respawn, that territory won't be there for others to capture, etc.

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Beld Errmon Nyain San 1806	Posted - 2014.12.29 08:32:00 - [1] - Quote Has there been any news on Legion? Haven't been playing dust or reading the forum for a fair while now and don't wanna go digging, i'm guessing its a no? Retired bittervet.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3430	Posted - 2014.12.29 10:07:00 - [2] - Quote I think this project is either on hold. While dust goes though it's resurgence or is in a normal 3 dev cycle. Which means we won't here anything to till late 2016. I think project valkary is the primary goal at the moment. In short. Ahahaha No =ƒÿò You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Tau Lai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 150	Posted - 2014.12.29 14:20:00 - [3] - Quote According to what we saw in the last Fanfest, LEGION may be right now aproximately at 70% until beta. My guess is that we will have a release date announcement at 2015 Fanfest. My guess about Beta is somewhere in April 2015 My guess about release date is July 2015. The lack of news concerning this situation is an strategy for not killing Dust yet, and not to lose the playerbase they have right now. I challenge any Dev to refute this. Signature image goes here
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2267	Posted - 2014.12.29 14:48:00 - [4] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: I challenge any Dev to refute this. They already did as they said there will be no Legion (or DUST) announcements at Fanfest. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5151	Posted - 2014.12.29 15:05:00 - [5] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: According to what we saw in the last Fanfest, LEGION may be right now aproximately at 70% until beta. My guess is that we will have a release date announcement at 2015 Fanfest. My guess about Beta is somewhere in April 2015 My guess about release date is July 2015. The lack of news concerning this situation is an strategy for not killing Dust yet, and not to lose the playerbase they have right now. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. No. Bendtner92 wrote: Tau Lai wrote: I challenge any Dev to refute this. They already did as they said there will be no Legion (or DUST) announcements at Fanfest. Pretty much this. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
SuperMido Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 90	Posted - 2014.12.29 15:24:00 - [6] - Quote That's all the news we got
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3340	Posted - 2014.12.29 16:35:00 - [7] - Quote Soraya already confirmed in another thread that Legion is pretty much cancelled. It would make sense considering all of the development effort that's being poured into Dust.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5151	Posted - 2014.12.29 18:12:00 - [8] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Soraya already confirmed in another thread that Legion is pretty much cancelled. False. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
SuperMido Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 90	Posted - 2014.12.29 19:59:00 - [9] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Soraya already confirmed in another thread that Legion is pretty much cancelled. False. Soraya just confirmed Legion is pretty much green lit LMAO. JK
zzZaXxx The Exemplars 714	Posted - 2014.12.29 20:07:00 - [10] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Soraya already confirmed in another thread that Legion is pretty much cancelled. False. did you get appointed Legion troll?

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5151	Posted - 2014.12.29 20:16:00 - [11] - Quote I always troll, zzZaXxx. I just also happen to spread accurate information at the same time. :) CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
DaReaperPW Net 7 59	Posted - 2014.12.29 20:27:00 - [12] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Tau Lai wrote: I challenge any Dev to refute this. They already did as they said there will be no Legion (or DUST) announcements at Fanfest. While there is no plans right now for an announcement, this is after all CCP we are talking about. No dust or legion stuff, makes many think, and some CPM kinda hinted at, that fan fest will be eve and Valk heavy. However, just because dust/legion won;t have a key note, doesn;t mean it wont have a round table, where you might some basic info. It also doesn't mean that during CCP Presents, which is the key note about all CCP's projects, and more recently, New Eden as a whole, they coudl decide to give 5-10 min to Legion/Dust and announce something. It would be relitivly simple to do. But honestly, don;t hold your breath. As a long time eve player, i am happy with the silence. I'd rather CCP remain quite about stuff thats not quite set in stone, then have loose lips, and promise something, then reneg on it later. Or have lose lips and say something that is totally unplanned, or not how they ment it, and we have yet another disaster on our hands ala Rouge Wedding. But we will see.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5151	Posted - 2014.12.29 20:33:00 - [13] - Quote Yeah, it's already been stated there will likely be roundtables. Just because things tend to get said when devs talk, I wouldn't be shocked if one or two tidbits of information that weren't public before were said during Fanfest. But don't expect a playable Legion on the floor. Don't expect a beta invite. Etc. No big announcement means none of the sort of stuff that people write blog articles about and such. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
DaReaperPW Net 7 59	Posted - 2014.12.29 20:37:00 - [14] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Yeah, it's already been stated there will likely be roundtables. Just because things tend to get said when devs talk, I wouldn't be shocked if one or two tidbits of information that weren't public before were said during Fanfest. But don't expect a playable Legion on the floor. Don't expect a beta invite. Etc. No big announcement means none of the sort of stuff that people write blog articles about and such. My guess, is, the only type of announcement, if ccp changed there mind would simply be Hilmar stating that legion was greenlite, and thats it. Beyond that, yea i agree. And even THAT type of announcement i'm not holding my breath for, i'm just stating that untill its all said and done, ccp could change there minds. But at least roundtables will be good.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2268	Posted - 2014.12.29 22:08:00 - [15] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: My guess, is, the only type of announcement, if ccp changed there mind would simply be Hilmar stating that legion was greenlite, and thats it. Beyond that, yea i agree. And even THAT type of announcement i'm not holding my breath for, i'm just stating that untill its all said and done, ccp could change there minds. But at least roundtables will be good. CCP can change their minds yes, but going from having nothing to announce to suddenly having Legion ready for release or similar can't happen. So CCP at this point saying no Legion announcements means Legion is far from being ready for release. Whether that means still being under development, put on hold, cancelled or whatever is impossible to say right now. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3341	Posted - 2014.12.30 04:39:00 - [16] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Soraya already confirmed in another thread that Legion is pretty much cancelled. False. I know the NDA prohibits you from saying it explicitly but its not hard to read between the lines with your posts lately. I'm just saying what you can't, although I can certainly understand you covering all your bases by denying it.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3432	Posted - 2014.12.30 07:48:00 - [17] - Quote To be honest SC completely stole any thunder legion might have had on the PC. The ability to land a bording team where one guy can turn off the gravity during the firefights means legion would need to realky step up. Frankly CCP does not have the manpower or will to fight at that kind of level right now. It's better to keep dust ticking over and focus on Valk which won't have any comp in its space. You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5152	Posted - 2014.12.30 14:56:00 - [18] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Soraya already confirmed in another thread that Legion is pretty much cancelled. False. I know the NDA prohibits you from saying it explicitly but its not hard to read between the lines with your posts lately. I'm just saying what you can't, although I can certainly understand you covering all your bases by denying it. Helpful hint: One thing the NDA can not make me do is lie. So if you 'read between the lines', and I tell you it's false, then your takeaway from my statement was wrong. steadyhand amarr wrote: To be honest SC completely stole any thunder legion might have had on the PC. The ability to land a bording team where one guy can turn off the gravity during the firefights means legion would need to realky step up. Frankly CCP does not have the manpower or will to fight at that kind of level right now. It's better to keep dust ticking over and focus on Valk which won't have any comp in its space. Um... Valkyrie's in more direct competition with Star Citizen than Legion is. o_o CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
SuperMido Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 90	Posted - 2014.12.30 18:07:00 - [19] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Um... Valkyrie's in more direct competition with Star Citizen than Legion is. o_o No! You got that wrong here, StarCitizen is more like EVE Online, Valkyrie, and Dust 514 combined. It offers the big capital ship fleets, sure not as massive as EVE ones, but still. All of the trading, mining, pirating, economy stuff, etc. Its got the little fighters, so Valkyrie, AND its got the FPS aspect on the ground, on space stations, and on board of ships! Of-course you can argue StarCitizen is not even out yet, and its all for most part on paper. But at-least thats what the concept is. Only big difference between the EVE universe and StarCitizen universe is that EVE is mostly player influenced (which I prefer btw), StarCitizen is going to be 90% NPC, and 10% player driven.
DaReaperPW Net 7 59	Posted - 2014.12.30 18:14:00 - [20] - Quote SuperMido wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Um... Valkyrie's in more direct competition with Star Citizen than Legion is. o_o No! You got that wrong here, StarCitizen is more like EVE Online, Valkyrie, and Dust 514/Legion combined. It offers the big capital ship fleets, sure not as massive as EVE ones, but still. All of the trading, mining, pirating, economy stuff, etc. Its got the little fighters, so Valkyrie, AND its got the FPS aspect on the ground, on space stations, and on board of ships! Of-course you can argue StarCitizen is not even out yet, and its all for most part on paper. But at-least thats what the concept is. Only big difference between the EVE universe and StarCitizen universe is that EVE is mostly player influenced (which I prefer btw), StarCitizen is going to be 90% NPC, and 10% player driven. The funny thing about concepts... is they look nice on paper and in scripted non completed demo's but are a totally different animal when deployed. I'm betting 90% of what people think SC will be, will be gutted. And SC is instanced, sharded, mess. EVE is not. shrugs

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5156	Posted - 2014.12.30 18:17:00 - [21] - Quote It's not a question of if, and more a question of how much, of Star Citizen's vision will get axed as development continues. That being said, I think if Star Citizen manages even 50% of what they promise, CCP has a lot to worry about in the near future. SuperMido, personal opinion, the FPS gameplay won't be the core of it. Hopefully it'll be solid, I'll probably be playing it, but I'm not expecting it to blow away dedicated FPSes either. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
SuperMido Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 90	Posted - 2014.12.30 18:25:00 - [22] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: The funny thing about concepts... is they look nice on paper and in scripted non completed demo's but are a totally different animal when deployed. I'm betting 90% of what people think SC will be, will be gutted. And SC is instanced, sharded, mess. EVE is not. shrugs I totally agree with you here. And Dust 514 would be the PERFECT example as to how concepts can look amazing, and then turn out half ass. And how demos and trailers can throw us off, CCP proved all of that. BUT, I will disagree with you when it comes to StarCitizen, with 68 Million dollars and counting, open development directly with the fans, its hard to fail. Also, everything they promised so far, from hangars, to the Arena Commander module, they've delivered on. You're right about SC being instanced tho, they just simply can't have everyone be anywhere at the same time, CryEngine limitations, especially with the level of fidelity they're going after. But, in-case you didn't know, the universe WILL be persistent, so if you find a jump point, or if you kill this badass NPC pirate, or claim a piece of territory, it will be YOU and just you who did it. That NPC won't respawn, that territory won't be there for others to capture, etc.
SuperMido Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 90	Posted - 2014.12.30 18:31:00 - [23] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: SuperMido, personal opinion, the FPS gameplay won't be the core of it. Hopefully it'll be solid, I'll probably be playing it, but I'm not expecting it to blow away dedicated FPSes either. That's true, FPS is not the core of the game, they're classifying SC as a First Person Universe, but more because everything outside of your ship will be handled in FP mode. Will see how it turns out eventually, and as far the FPS part is concerned, that module will be released very soon, within a couple of months. I'm excited for StarCitizen, and I love the approach the devs are taking with the open development. I wish if CCP was doing the same. Sure, I understand that CiG is forced to be open because the game is funded by fans. But still, I wish CCP would be a little more open with us.
DaReaperPW Net 7 59	Posted - 2014.12.31 00:10:00 - [24] - Quote SuperMido wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: The funny thing about concepts... is they look nice on paper and in scripted non completed demo's but are a totally different animal when deployed. I'm betting 90% of what people think SC will be, will be gutted. And SC is instanced, sharded, mess. EVE is not. shrugs I totally agree with you here. And Dust 514 would be the PERFECT example as to how concepts can look amazing, and then turn out half ass. And how demos and trailers can throw us off, CCP proved all of that. BUT, I will disagree with you when it comes to StarCitizen, with 68 Million dollars and counting, open development directly with the fans, its hard to fail. Also, everything they promised so far, from hangars, to the Arena Commander module, they've delivered on. You're right about SC being instanced tho, they just simply can't have everyone be anywhere at the same time, CryEngine limitations, especially with the level of fidelity they're going after. But, in-case you didn't know, the universe WILL be persistent, so if you find a jump point, or if you kill this badass NPC pirate, or claim a piece of territory, it will be YOU and just you who did it. That NPC won't respawn, that territory won't be there for others to capture, etc. Look up freelancer. nuff said
DaReaperPW Net 7 59	Posted - 2014.12.31 00:24:00 - [25] - Quote SuperMido wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: The funny thing about concepts... is they look nice on paper and in scripted non completed demo's but are a totally different animal when deployed. I'm betting 90% of what people think SC will be, will be gutted. And SC is instanced, sharded, mess. EVE is not. shrugs I totally agree with you here. And Dust 514 would be the PERFECT example as to how concepts can look amazing, and then turn out half ass. And how demos and trailers can throw us off, CCP proved all of that. BUT, I will disagree with you when it comes to StarCitizen, with 68 Million dollars and counting, open development directly with the fans, its hard to fail. Also, everything they promised so far, from hangars, to the Arena Commander module, they've delivered on. You're right about SC being instanced tho, they just simply can't have everyone be anywhere at the same time, CryEngine limitations, especially with the level of fidelity they're going after. But, in-case you didn't know, the universe WILL be persistent, so if you find a jump point, or if you kill this badass NPC pirate, or claim a piece of territory, it will be YOU and just you who did it. That NPC won't respawn, that territory won't be there for others to capture, etc. See and this is speculation. There is no universe to play in. All there is is a dogfight sim. Untill the game is fully out, all parts, and working together, you honestly don't know what it will look like. Just like EVE, Valk, and Legion, we have zero idea how or if they will be interconencted, or how valk and legion will fully play. No idea at all. Because, even if CCP comes out right now and says that legion and eve will be linked, and we can do all this amazing stuff... it doesn't matter until you can play and do said amazing stuff. Thats the thing. The hype around SC is a bit.. mmm crazy. CR's rack record really is not that good. hes about 50/50 on hit or miss, if you count his POS movie. I can tell you tons of examples where something was said to come to game and got canned. Or where people thought 'omg that looks so amazing' on paper, then played it and went.. 'wow that really sucks to play' its always good to have a bit of perspective, be excited for a game sure, but over hyping is just asking for you to be crushed. And TBH, even if SC came out with EVERYTHING CR wants, it still is not really a direct competitor to legion, eve, or valk. Different game play elements, that will appeal to different people. Me for example have zero intrest in a sharded world. Or a 90% run npc economy. or tons of other turn offs. Just as there will be a lot of people who wo;t want to touch legion, and tons who froth at the mouth for it. Its how it works. There is actually room for every game to be played by people. So the argument is a bit dumb, esp when you only have like 1/5th of anything playable from SC. (dog fight, and a space barbie place) But i'm interested to see what happens, cause lets face it, ED and SC putting some pressure on CCP and lighting a fire under there asses to take risk and make inovation to EVE and Dust is a GOOD thing. Just don;t pin all your hopes on it.
lateriss ObscuriLateris 18	Posted - 2014.12.31 01:18:00 - [26] - Quote I see it as well- Even Elite Dangerous has a road map for integrating the FPS design into their game. They will have avatar based space combat with space walks. Not only will the FPS aspect be added to the game but you will have no loading screens when landing on a planet. Eventually, If you see a star or a planet, you can go to it and land, then walk around. You will also be able to walk around your ships or a space station. The arena for sci fi space games be it a FPS or a space game have become a whole new game for studios. As far as project legion goes I see it as more of a lobby shooter like Dust514 or Titan Fall. But certainly not an MMO. I don't see CCP games integrating a seamless game play experience due to tech\game engines. But certainly the competition is going to heat things up. Hence the WASD deployment to Ever Online. Even the Unreal Engine 4 now is supporting open worlds. I am really hoping PL gets green lit. >...> Pic! GëíGïüGëí
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3432	Posted - 2014.12.31 10:30:00 - [27] - Quote To clarify my meta point. Eve now has direct comp in its space that for the last 10 years it had all to itself. This means they can't **** around anymore. People do ditch games for better alteratives (the trash of 2014 no with standings WoW effectively killed the mmo space for a few years =ƒÿå). So ccp needs wins to keep people happy or the comp will just keep eating away at the market share. Also Valk is a arcade game set in space...The only thing it has in common with SC and elite is they are both in space... and SC FPS combat was allready in a working state so it's happening =ƒÿå You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Ghural WarRavens Capital Punishment. 364	Posted - 2014.12.31 23:31:00 - [28] - Quote I remember when CCP's vision for EVE was to be a "complete sci fi simulation", now other companies are stepping in to do what CCP cannot/will not.
7th Son 7 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 167	Posted - 2015.01.06 03:23:00 - [29] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Has there been any news on Legion? Haven't been playing dust or reading the forum for a fair while now and don't wanna go digging, i'm guessing its a no? Pretty sure if CCP ever has kids that their going to lock them in the basement.
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1095	Posted - 2015.01.06 05:11:00 - [30] - Quote Ghural wrote: I remember when CCP's vision for EVE was to be a "complete sci fi simulation", now other companies are stepping in to do what CCP cannot/will not. Star Citizen and Elite & Dangerous? not sure if there are others I haven't heard of Should Legion be on the ps4?



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