DUST Search - Getting Sniped 500+m away from the edge of the red line

Thumb Green wrote:

Timtron Victory wrote:

I consider sniper rifles to be the opposite of shotguns, it makes sense but sniping from the redline is just ridiculous, there is no risk. Most times if they arent too far in, I die after killing them

If they can shoot someone then they too can be shot. This "redline = no risk" bullshit is just that, bullshit. Redline snipers have always been just little more than annoying gnats but now they're even more annoying because the fcking range nerf means they know where to look for counter-snipers while also making it harder to counter-snipe them because the range nerf also means you can't get at the proper angle to snipe the ones that are behind the sh!tty hitboxes of buildings & terrain.

I'm getting a little tired of this "no risk" argument everyone brings up when they're trying to get something nerfed. It was ridiculous beforehand but now it's just straight up bullshit with BPO's floating around again. With how often "no risk" gets flung around you'd think the forums would be up in arms pissing and moaning about "no risk" being institutionalized but nope, seems nobody really gives a damn about the risk.

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Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 125	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:35:00 - [1] - Quote I dont see how thats not a problem. No way to counter it as far as I am aware. I cant wait to get my BPO suit and not care about deaths anymore Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14701	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:39:00 - [2] - Quote Pics or it didn't happen. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Assert Dominance III 0bamacare 28	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:39:00 - [3] - Quote call in a lav and pay the sniper a visit. he wont go anywhere, i promise. banned DMG is trash
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2772	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:44:00 - [4] - Quote im pretty sure sniper rifles cant even shoot that far... Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 1308	Posted - 2014.12.27 22:01:00 - [5] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: im pretty sure sniper rifles cant even shoot that far... ^ Quit trying to Nerf snipers AGAIN... Jesus, some people... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1976	Posted - 2014.12.27 22:03:00 - [6] - Quote Max range is 450m, so BS on 500+m death from one. [RYJC]
Nirwanda Vaughns 1137	Posted - 2014.12.27 22:23:00 - [7] - Quote to be honest the last round of sniper changes were supposed to reduce red line sniping but its done sod all. peopel will still sit at the back in a tanked out commando ck.0 in the redline and soon as they take a hit drop back to recharge. its pretty pathetic tbh. least guys using officer gear on the frontline risk losing them. all thale sniping does is shame how little some folk have int heir lives that holding on to a single item in a game means to them i mean ffs some of you need to go and see one of two thing Sunlight a vag*a Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner*
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10595	Posted - 2014.12.27 22:28:00 - [8] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: to be honest the last round of sniper changes were supposed to reduce red line sniping but its done sod all. peopel will still sit at the back in a tanked out commando ck.0 in the redline and soon as they take a hit drop back to recharge. its pretty pathetic tbh. least guys using officer gear on the frontline risk losing them. all thale sniping does is shame how little some folk have int heir lives that holding on to a single item in a game means to them i mean ffs some of you need to go and see one of two thing Sunlight a vag**a LOL @ Proto Commando snipers hiding in the redline. I'll just switch to pure speed + pure damage + Ishukone Nova Knives + Minscout and run up to them deep into the redline and OHK them. Lady Redline -- such a beautiful mistress -- might claim me, but at least I will die knowing I cost someone their Thale's. LOL On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 632	Posted - 2014.12.27 22:36:00 - [9] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: to be honest the last round of sniper changes were supposed to reduce red line sniping but its done sod all. peopel will still sit at the back in a tanked out commando ck.0 in the redline and soon as they take a hit drop back to recharge. its pretty pathetic tbh. least guys using officer gear on the frontline risk losing them. all thale sniping does is shame how little some folk have int heir lives that holding on to a single item in a game means to them i mean ffs some of you need to go and see one of two thing Sunlight a vag**a LOL @ Proto Commando snipers hiding in the redline. I'll just switch to pure speed + pure damage + Ishukone Nova Knives + Minscout and run up to them deep into the redline and OHK them. Lady Redline -- such a beautiful mistress -- might claim me, but at least I will die knowing I cost someone their Thale's. LOL If they are 300m away you aren't reaching them.
Edau Skir2 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 197	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:08:00 - [10] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: to be honest the last round of sniper changes were supposed to reduce red line sniping but its done sod all. peopel will still sit at the back in a tanked out commando ck.0 in the redline and soon as they take a hit drop back to recharge. its pretty pathetic tbh. least guys using officer gear on the frontline risk losing them. all thale sniping does is shame how little some folk have int heir lives that holding on to a single item in a game means to them i mean ffs some of you need to go and see one of two thing Sunlight a vag**a Please, us snipers do that with the militia bpo. That's standard Sniper practice. It's not about "being loathe to lose an item" it's about survival and killing the person who found you. Resident pasty smasher

Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 125	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:08:00 - [11] - Quote I am pretty sure it was 506m to be exact, it was a proto caldari assault with a proto sniper. I was actually about to kill a heavy with a sniper rifle and got killed by the sniper. I am human so maybe I read it wrong but snipers are the new FOTM, even heavies use it so I will most likely be able to get a picture soon. The suggestion to make it impossible to use weapons in the redline makes a lot of sense but then again the whole point of the redline still makes no sense to me, if the blue team is being stomped, they have nowhere to retreat into, defeats the whole purpose Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Henrietta Unknown Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 674	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:11:00 - [12] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: I am pretty sure it was 506m to be exact, it was a proto caldari assault with a proto sniper. I was actually about to kill a heavy with a sniper rifle and got killed by the sniper. I am human so maybe I read it wrong but snipers are the new FOTM, even heavies use it so I will most likely be able to get a picture soon. The suggestion to make it impossible to use weapons in the redline makes a lot of sense but then again the whole point of the redline still makes no sense to me, if the blue team is being stomped, they have nowhere to retreat into, defeats the whole purpose Snipers have always been an annoyance, but in my experience, never a FOTM. Common around redlined teams though. Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 635	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:19:00 - [13] - Quote Just grab a tac sniper sneak at an angle and take him out before he knows what hit him. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 20555	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:43:00 - [14] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Max range is 450m, so BS on 500+m death from one. Isn't 450m the maximum optimal, rather than the absolute range? Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 261	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:49:00 - [15] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Max range is 450m, so BS on 500+m death from one. Isn't 450m the maximum optimal, rather than the absolute range? It's both. The Sniper Rifle deals 100% damage until 450m. 451m and on it does nothing. Not sure why Sniper Rifles are exempt from the damage fall-off mechanic, but they are. [36.4m SP - Next skill: Kinetic Catalyzation 3] (Assault mk.0 - Logistics mk.0) "Call me beep me, if you want a logi"
Nonoriri ko Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 26	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:59:00 - [16] - Quote Thales is farther than 450m if i remember right. All named weapons have further range than proto.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10595	Posted - 2014.12.28 00:02:00 - [17] - Quote Nonoriri ko wrote: Thales is farther than 450m if i remember right. All named weapons have further range than proto. Actually, I don't think Thale's were except from the 450m limit. If memory serves me right, ALL sniper rifles regardless of names have their absolute range set to 450m as of some time ago during one of the earlier hotfixes. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4275	Posted - 2014.12.28 00:17:00 - [18] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: im pretty sure sniper rifles cant even shoot that far... ^ Quit trying to Nerf snipers AGAIN... Jesus, some people... snipers...got a buff. Like really... Snipers complained they were UP and got a buff...that's all that happened. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 125	Posted - 2014.12.28 00:21:00 - [19] - Quote I have played dominations where more than 10 players are either snipers or forge gunners. Maybe its because of the Apex suits and players feel they want to save ISK for it or feel its not worth dying since they wont get a payout from killing Apex suits Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 1512	Posted - 2014.12.28 00:24:00 - [20] - Quote Here lately I've only seen one sniper that wasn't in the redline. The others I've payed a visit to, or at least ran them away. The one guy not in the redline was left alone for actually being in the sand box. TLDR : Last Dust Montage

LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 1311	Posted - 2014.12.28 01:58:00 - [21] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: im pretty sure sniper rifles cant even shoot that far... ^ Quit trying to Nerf snipers AGAIN... Jesus, some people... snipers...got a buff. Like really... Snipers complained they were UP and got a buff...that's all that happened. Sorry, was referring specifically to range Nerf. But seriously, I don't get the combat sniper argument, where people want snipers near the battle... Its just stupidly difficult trying to compete with Rail Rifles, Scramblers, and even Combat rifles. Sure, they can't hit you at your range, but everyone sees a sniper outside the redline and says "Mmmmm, tasty kill!" Sway after moving totally kills combat sniping, and you HAVE to crouch to have a good chance at hitting something. Its a stupid argument, the combat sniper one... Anyone and their mother can easily counter a combat sniper. Trust me, I know these facts. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 125	Posted - 2014.12.28 02:14:00 - [22] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: im pretty sure sniper rifles cant even shoot that far... ^ Quit trying to Nerf snipers AGAIN... Jesus, some people... snipers...got a buff. Like really... Snipers complained they were UP and got a buff...that's all that happened. Sorry, was referring specifically to range Nerf. But seriously, I don't get the combat sniper argument, where people want snipers near the battle... Its just stupidly difficult trying to compete with Rail Rifles, Scramblers, and even Combat rifles. Sure, they can't hit you at your range, but everyone sees a sniper outside the redline and says "Mmmmm, tasty kill!" Sway after moving totally kills combat sniping, and you HAVE to crouch to have a good chance at hitting something. Its a stupid argument, the combat sniper one... Anyone and their mother can easily counter a combat sniper. Trust me, I know these facts. I consider sniper rifles to be the opposite of shotguns, it makes sense but sniping from the redline is just ridiculous, there is no risk. Most times if they arent too far in, I die after killing them Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Everything Dies Santa is coming...FOR BLOOD 1148	Posted - 2014.12.28 02:16:00 - [23] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: all thale sniping does is shame how little some folk have int heir lives that holding on to a single item in a game means to them i mean ffs some of you need to go and see one of two thing Sunlight a vag**a Why in the hell would anyone use a Thales anymore? There is ZERO point in using anything above the standard versions thanks to the headshot bonus; hell, instead of running in a 100k+ ISK proto sniper build, you can be just as effective now with a sub-20k suit and not worry about losing money in a match. Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 1311	Posted - 2014.12.28 02:21:00 - [24] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: I consider sniper rifles to be the opposite of shotguns, it makes sense but sniping from the redline is just ridiculous, there is no risk. Most times if they arent too far in, I die after killing them Your reply had nothing to do with what I said... Did you even read it? Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 125	Posted - 2014.12.28 02:30:00 - [25] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: I consider sniper rifles to be the opposite of shotguns, it makes sense but sniping from the redline is just ridiculous, there is no risk. Most times if they arent too far in, I die after killing them Your reply had nothing to do with what I said... Did you even read it? I did maybe I just wasnt clear enough. Combat Sniping is not broken. Hence my comparison to shotguns, you cant expect the shotgun to kill someone 200m away because the range is not fair, weapons should have their niches but 400m into the redline is just plain ridiculous. If you stay at high places or in difficult to reach spots then thats just being smart. Scouts are meant to get to snipers. If a medium suit is heading towards a sniper, he would most likely be spotted and die before he reaches his target. . Even with a range of 250m, the sniper rifle still out ranges the rail rifle. There was a heavy using a sniper rifle and a magsec. He was combat sniping and doing a pretty good job, I almost got him but got sniped by a red line sniper Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Nirwanda Vaughns 1141	Posted - 2014.12.28 02:31:00 - [26] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: to be honest the last round of sniper changes were supposed to reduce red line sniping but its done sod all. peopel will still sit at the back in a tanked out commando ck.0 in the redline and soon as they take a hit drop back to recharge. its pretty pathetic tbh. least guys using officer gear on the frontline risk losing them. all thale sniping does is shame how little some folk have int heir lives that holding on to a single item in a game means to them i mean ffs some of you need to go and see one of two thing Sunlight a vaga Please, us snipers do that with the militia bpo. That's standard Sniper practice. It's not about "being loathe to lose an item" it's about survival and killing the person who found you. lol bullst. you've as much chance of seeing a unicorn being gangbanged by leprachauns than see a thale sniper near the battlefront risking losing it. a sniper and his thales are liek norman bates n his mom Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Edau Skir2 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 197	Posted - 2014.12.28 02:42:00 - [27] - Quote Just wait until I'm skilled up enough to use a Thale. Then those words of yours shall be eaten. Resident pasty smasher
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1979	Posted - 2014.12.28 04:29:00 - [28] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: I consider sniper rifles to be the opposite of shotguns, it makes sense but sniping from the redline is just ridiculous, there is no risk. Most times if they arent too far in, I die after killing them If they can shoot someone then they too can be shot. This "redline = no risk" bullshit is just that, bullshit. Redline snipers have always been just little more than annoying gnats but now they're even more annoying because the fcking range nerf means they know where to look for counter-snipers while also making it harder to counter-snipe them because the range nerf also means you can't get at the proper angle to snipe the ones that are behind the sh!tty hitboxes of buildings & terrain. I'm getting a little tired of this "no risk" argument everyone brings up when they're trying to get something nerfed. It was ridiculous beforehand but now it's just straight up bullshit with BPO's floating around again. With how often "no risk" gets flung around you'd think the forums would be up in arms pissing and moaning about "no risk" being institutionalized but nope, seems nobody really gives a damn about the risk. [RYJC]
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 125	Posted - 2014.12.28 04:32:00 - [29] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: I consider sniper rifles to be the opposite of shotguns, it makes sense but sniping from the redline is just ridiculous, there is no risk. Most times if they arent too far in, I die after killing them If they can shoot someone then they too can be shot. This "redline = no risk" bullshit is just that, bullshit. Redline snipers have always been just little more than annoying gnats but now they're even more annoying because the fcking range nerf means they know where to look for counter-snipers while also making it harder to counter-snipe them because the range nerf also means you can't get at the proper angle to snipe the ones that are behind the sh!tty hitboxes of buildings & terrain. I'm getting a little tired of this "no risk" argument everyone brings up when they're trying to get something nerfed. It was ridiculous beforehand but now it's just straight up bullshit with BPO's floating around again. With how often "no risk" gets flung around you'd think the forums would be up in arms pissing and moaning about "no risk" being institutionalized but nope, seems nobody really gives a damn about the risk. I dont really understand what you are trying to say, I am not interested in a nerf. Never called for it. Sniping 400m from inside the redline is no risk Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1980	Posted - 2014.12.28 04:43:00 - [30] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: I dont really understand what you are trying to say, I am not interested in a nerf. Never called for it. Of course you didn't specifically call for a nerf but it's the only logical conclusion one can come to from reading that you think the SR's range is too much. Timtron Victory wrote: Sniping 400m from inside the redline is no risk You and I must have very different definitions of "no risk". [RYJC]



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