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STYLIE77 wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Adding one last spreadsheet to list tonight because clearly CCP (who developed this change) and the CPM (who absent mindedly approved it) have no idea what the community wants anymore. (Hint: We want our salvage without having to [kitten] pay for it). Why should -WE- have to pay for the salvage that -WE- earned?

Add your name below with a '/signed' and I'll add it to the spreadsheet.

CCP: We want our salvage back!

I got 3 thales as regular salvage yesterday, along with a 9k forge gun, and some grenades.

My missions yesterday gave me 500k isk and 34k SP.

My missions today will net me 2 keys, 520k isk and 42k SP.

Not to mention dozens of adv/pro suits, mods and weapons.

The drop rate on the crates are annoying... but I do have a chance at keys thru missions.

Those with bad luck may go days or even weeks with out missions for keys.

I went weeks on end with out officer salvage in pubs in the past... same difference.

Free to play, you don't have to buy anything to play this.

You can now even grind for a BPO suit.

I call entitled b.s. on this whole thread.

I am literally looking at your avatar and flipping you the bird. Bear

"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro"

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Stevez Wingyip DUST University Ivy League 71	Posted - 2014.12.19 17:23:00 - [61] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Adding one last spreadsheet to list tonight because clearly CCP (who developed this change) and the CPM (who absent mindedly approved it) have no idea what the community wants anymore. (Hint: We want our salvage without having to [kitten] pay for it). Why should -WE- have to pay for the salvage that -WE- earned? Add your name below with a '/signed' and I'll add it to the spreadsheet. CCP: We want our salvage back! Don't remove. Just edit them and the AUR price so they are worth buying. Make it only drop loot I can use. Make them drop officer tokens I can trade for the weapon I want. And make the boxes rare. O should not be getting 70 in one day. Minmatar pilot and Merc and love my boyfriend @luppasc2! µêætê¦sê¬S¦Üsºå
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1395	Posted - 2014.12.19 17:41:00 - [62] - Quote Corbina Ninja wrote: boxes must be four types -Amarr -Caldari -Gallente -Minmatar you should be able to buy their keys in the LP market the hacked keys purchased for AUR should open all types you can farm a key type and open 1/4 boxes or two types of keys and open half of boxes and farm twice if you want to get the remaining key types you will need to buy a booster or lose faction standing farm or pay I think this is better than the current model of the mystery box for money This. Kind of.... Just make the keys racially themed and keep the boxes how they are. Buying an Amarr LP key would automatically drop Amarr type items when the box is opened. AUR keys can be selected race as well. Keys from missions remain the same and are totally random. If I could get all Amarr items which is what i run, I would buy a pile of keys. Just because even basic stuff I would know that I can use it.
Z3dog BIG BAD W0LVES 65	Posted - 2014.12.19 17:48:00 - [63] - Quote Signed. Remove them. Dust 5/14
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5496	Posted - 2014.12.19 18:10:00 - [64] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Zaria Min Deir wrote: This. I love how they finally gave us the option to sell unwanted salvage, and then basically took salvage away a few weeks later >.< /Signed. Didn't think about it like that until you mentioned it. Which makes it even more hilarious, when you think about it like this: - They make you buy an Agent to get the maximum returns... - They take away salvage and replace it with these salvage boxes... - You can open the salvage boxes, but only if you spend -MORE- money.... - And what you get out of the salvage boxes is AURUM GEAR which is essentially worthless because it costs MORE MONEY to restock. So, basically, the scheme here is that: We pay for these keys to open these mystery boxes, get a random assortment of things that we can sell BUT AT A REDUCED RATE I hadn't either because I never sell anything after initially cleaning out my inventory after purchasing the agent. Seems like they need to sit down and have a meeting on real life monetization and how they relate to ingame income generation. 1) Obviously the salvage system 2) The effect of 8 billion different types of BPOs on the current ISK payouts Only4-5KDRpubbiesCanRunADV24/7\|PCplyrsRunPRO&smashSTD/MLTplyrs24/7. ThisIsHowIt'sAlwaysBeen,ThereforeMustStayThisWay.
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1067	Posted - 2014.12.19 18:13:00 - [65] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: I don't really see a difference in my salvage other than I now get boxes in lieu of nothing(still get nothing sometimes, but a lot less often). The rate of getting normal salvage items seems to be the same for me, I just now get tons of useless boxes as well. ^This. The strongboxes are additional salvage, and the previous salvage system still runs alongside unchanged. But I want rid! /signed Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 718	Posted - 2014.12.19 18:14:00 - [66] - Quote oh no. i cant salvage 1x EXO-5 mass driver anymore... or 3x KR-17 breach shotguns, oh this game gives me AIDS LogicGäó
rithu T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 284	Posted - 2014.12.19 18:15:00 - [67] - Quote /signed cause CCP is making this game a p2w now.
Major IMPACT Titans of Phoenix 44	Posted - 2014.12.19 19:38:00 - [68] - Quote /signed "Even if a pawn becomes a queen, it is still just a playing piece" -MGS2
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2877	Posted - 2014.12.19 20:44:00 - [69] - Quote STYLIE77 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Adding one last spreadsheet to list tonight because clearly CCP (who developed this change) and the CPM (who absent mindedly approved it) have no idea what the community wants anymore. (Hint: We want our salvage without having to [kitten] pay for it). Why should -WE- have to pay for the salvage that -WE- earned? Add your name below with a '/signed' and I'll add it to the spreadsheet. CCP: We want our salvage back! I got 3 thales as regular salvage yesterday, along with a 9k forge gun, and some grenades. My missions yesterday gave me 500k isk and 34k SP. My missions today will net me 2 keys, 520k isk and 42k SP. Not to mention dozens of adv/pro suits, mods and weapons. The drop rate on the crates are annoying... but I do have a chance at keys thru missions. Those with bad luck may go days or even weeks with out missions for keys. I went weeks on end with out officer salvage in pubs in the past... same difference. Free to play, you don't have to buy anything to play this. You can now even grind for a BPO suit. I call entitled b.s. on this whole thread. I am literally looking at your avatar and flipping you the bird. I see where you are coming from but honestly STYLIE77, this is more about the implementation of strong boxes. Not the mission system (which by the way I agree is a fairly nice addition to the game). You may call this thread an entitlement whine but really who are the fools here? CCP could have changed a few things and actually made strongboxes something people want to spend isk on. As it is right now, please show me anyone that thinks spending aurum on these keys is a good idea. (If you say yourself I will scream) You would think CCP would want to make more of an incentive for people to buy them, not less. Being able to grind for a BPO suit is awesome I agree. Certainly did not expect that from CCP and I gave them props for that from day one. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 1119	Posted - 2014.12.19 23:44:00 - [70] - Quote Meh I still get salvage Don't care about 200+ boxes sitting around. As soon as I can get rid of them I will, til then, don't care. What's galling is that this is the sort of horse **** that lets the CPM down so often. Christ I hardly ever see them. It's like the ultimate forum warrior jobsworth You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz

RedBleach LeSanglant Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 710	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:16:00 - [71] - Quote Just give me a way to open the box that doesn't cost me my real money. I already spent my life saving on Apex suits, I have nothing left to give you CCP... unless you would take my soul as well? The Logi Code. Creator, Believer, Follower Trust CROSS
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 465	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:18:00 - [72] - Quote /signed
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 581	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:23:00 - [73] - Quote /signed Missions are awesome.... boxes are not. "Anybody order chaos?"
Kittensgotclaws Dying to Reload 11	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:27:00 - [74] - Quote Closing in on 900 boxes... Signed
Kittensgotclaws Dying to Reload 11	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:30:00 - [75] - Quote Once the bill is ready for congress add in a small addendum to remove bandwidth ( more crap the server can't calculate, poor hamsters are almost dead )
Loyal Glasses Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 12	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:31:00 - [76] - Quote Here is an idea: Strong boxes can only be found as salvage for every daily mission completed at the end of a match so at max 15 a day, not only that if a player gets killed a certain number of times he/she loses a strong box and said killer gets the box. Now this way MERCS are not flooded by BOXES and become something of a trophy like the Frozen Corpses in EVE. But first we need to have at least half of our boxes removed from the game. "Glasses of the Loyal Variety"
Zylinfantry DUST University Ivy League 10	Posted - 2014.12.22 02:07:00 - [77] - Quote Guys, guys, I think Strongboxes are awesome! It's gonna be like ship spinning. "Dude, I have 87629 Strongboxes, lol how many do you have? " " I got 127432 lmao. " " woah dude. So jelly" LMFAO JK I'm so signing this petition.. /SIGNED
Z3dog BIG BAD W0LVES 66	Posted - 2014.12.22 02:21:00 - [78] - Quote hey guys i can get a decryptor key if i finish all 10 missions and boost my SP twice! I'm signing this again. Remove them. Dust 5/14
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 113	Posted - 2014.12.22 02:21:00 - [79] - Quote Signed with all my three characters Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 648	Posted - 2014.12.22 02:22:00 - [80] - Quote HELL YEAH War never changes

knight guard fury Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1154	Posted - 2014.12.22 03:06:00 - [81] - Quote why not just: 1. reduce the drop rate signifigantly 2. allow some other way to open them (e.g. 500k-1mill isk per crate or do X amount of mission to allow 1 unlock) 3. have more ways of getting keys besides spending real money 4. create a 10% chance to get a key from battle salvage that way we dont have to get rid of them we wont have to be spammed by them and not many of us will QQ about it in the forums SP earned perday/week
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1143	Posted - 2014.12.22 03:13:00 - [82] - Quote CCP Dust should go down in the history book as having the worst money grabbing scheme to date...
manboar thunder fist Dead Man's Game RUST415 313	Posted - 2014.12.22 03:13:00 - [83] - Quote Death to the cubes of soulless loot theft! They came out of nowhere and invaded dust! If random cubes appeared Instead of stuff in your house would you not question it? "If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
Michael Arck 6086	Posted - 2014.12.22 03:16:00 - [84] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I'd be fine with Strongboxes if the bloody thrice-damned things did NOT have that stupid bright orange attention marker... Now I have two markers I can't turn off, my Strongboxes and my Boosters, if I get another I'm going to burn something down... I despise clutter... LOL! Man, it was driving me nuts the other day that I couldn't get rid of that marker! I like a clean neocom. Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
manboar thunder fist Dead Man's Game RUST415 313	Posted - 2014.12.22 03:18:00 - [85] - Quote How they should have done it: Bronze strongbox: 50% drop chance Contains some basic/militia gear upto 20 units Silver strongbox: 25% drop chance Contains adv/basic gear upto 10 units Gold strongbox: 10% drop chance Contains proto gear upto 5 units. Diamond strongbox: 2% drop chance Contains officer gear upto 3 units. The strong boxes are free to open and drop randomly in salvage, however you can also buy them for aurum in "strongbox packs" For example: 5 bronze for 250 aurum, 5 silver for 500 aurum, 5 gold for 750 aurum "If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 7564	Posted - 2014.12.22 06:01:00 - [86] - Quote Fair warning, I'm not keeping up with this (the spreadsheet) because of a recent talk I had with a former CPM convincing me to look at things in a different light. Aeon Amadi's Important Links
GRIM GEAR PredaKonZ 422	Posted - 2014.12.22 06:02:00 - [87] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Fair warning, I'm not keeping up with this (the spreadsheet) because of a recent talk I had with a former CPM convincing me to look at things in a different light. Aye no taco time Cup of tea anyone? I came here to mingle can you hear that jingle that would be me lingle.
Z3dog BIG BAD W0LVES 66	Posted - 2014.12.22 06:46:00 - [88] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: why not just: 1. reduce the drop rate signifigantly 2. allow some other way to open them (e.g. 500k-1mill isk per crate or do X amount of mission to allow 1 unlock) 3. have more ways of getting keys besides spending real money 4. create a 10% chance to get a key from battle salvage that way we dont have to get rid of them we wont have to be spammed by them and not many of us will QQ about it in the forums or or OR we could get rid of them and not have to deal with CCP tweaking them for the next 3 months. Dust 5/14


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"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014