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Powerh8er
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.12.19 08:30:00 -
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The main purpose of the boxes has got to be a comical one, because they are mostly good for laughs. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5862
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Posted - 2014.12.19 08:38:00 -
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Until the aur price of keys drops sharply and the key drops go up to a reasonable level yeah.
I'm in agreement they're worth little to nothing unless we can sell them for 10k-30k a pop.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
2315
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Posted - 2014.12.19 08:56:00 -
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I agree, either remove or give us a way to open them that does not require mindless match salvage or real money. Sorry I am not paying for S***. Port the game over to PS4 and I might spend again. I am losing interest in my PS3 since I got my 4, so I might leave for good if there is no confirm on the port.
Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
313
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Posted - 2014.12.19 08:59:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adding one last spreadsheet to list tonight because clearly CCP (who developed this change) and the CPM (who absent mindedly approved it) have no idea what the community wants anymore. (Hint: We want our salvage without having to [kitten] pay for it). Why should -WE- have to pay for the salvage that -WE- earned? Add your name below with a '/signed' and I'll add it to the spreadsheet. CCP: We want our salvage back!
I got 3 thales as regular salvage yesterday, along with a 9k forge gun, and some grenades.
My missions yesterday gave me 500k isk and 34k SP.
My missions today will net me 2 keys, 520k isk and 42k SP.
Not to mention dozens of adv/pro suits, mods and weapons.
The drop rate on the crates are annoying... but I do have a chance at keys thru missions.
Those with bad luck may go days or even weeks with out missions for keys.
I went weeks on end with out officer salvage in pubs in the past... same difference.
Free to play, you don't have to buy anything to play this.
You can now even grind for a BPO suit.
I call entitled b.s. on this whole thread.
I am literally looking at your avatar and flipping you the bird. 
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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Zaria Min Deir
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
932
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Posted - 2014.12.19 09:37:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I'd be fine with Strongboxes if the bloody thrice-damned things did NOT have that stupid bright orange attention marker...
Now I have two markers I can't turn off, my Strongboxes and my Boosters, if I get another I'm going to burn something down...
I despise clutter...
They clearly felt like they weren't doing a good enough of a job reminding us we owe them money with just one of those...
And to all the "reasonable" people replying to this thread. Strongboxes are not a bad idea inherently, I believe most people here object to the way CCP implemented them, on top of them really just adding an unnecessary layer of randomness. There is nothing about the way they work as they are that suggests anything but a huge desperate money grap, and even that was done badly.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
635
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Posted - 2014.12.19 09:53:00 -
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/signed but with a caveat
1) Stongboxes should become rare.
2) Keys should give equal Aurum return, and becomed staggered as well
e.g, A 50 aur key give 50 aur worth of items , 100 aur key 100 aur value, 1000 aur key 1000 aur value etc
3) Option to sell strongboxes for ISK. Gamble if you want, and sell the boxes if you don't. 10K per box would give the boxes some value in either selling or achieving in mission rewards.
4) Remove all starter fits, frontline and defender, as well as basic items immediately
I don't care about CCP trying to make money, but there is a much better way to go about it than ripping off your player base. War Thunder is also a free to play game that heavily rewards players who invest real money. They manage to be successful without diluting the value of items purchased.
CCP needs to convince us that spending cash on the boxes is worth it.
There is no way the + $100 of aurum i need to unlock my 300+ boxes will be the equivalent of either the elite pack, or the 10 year Templar anniversary edition of EVE onlline, or almost a year's subscription to EVE online.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
20409
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Posted - 2014.12.19 09:56:00 -
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/signed
254 boxes and I barely play, lol **** off.
Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
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Ablerober
Mass Defect Binding Energy
217
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Posted - 2014.12.19 10:08:00 -
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/signed |
Clone D
Grundstein Automation
1092
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Posted - 2014.12.19 10:14:00 -
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/signed
That shite has got to go.
ISK Trader
channel: blitz
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VikingKong iBUN
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
317
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Posted - 2014.12.19 10:24:00 -
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I still get salvage for battles, and now I get strongboxes too. I don't see a problem with CCP adding features.
The amount of strongboxes you get compared to the amount of keys is insane though. They need to rethink the chances of finding boxes and keys and give everyone like 200 keys for Christmas to make up for the extreme amount of boxes we have already. |
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
3475
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Posted - 2014.12.19 10:32:00 -
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Signed
Good mechanic, bad implementation.
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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VikingKong iBUN
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
318
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Posted - 2014.12.19 10:38:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Signed
Good mechanic, bad implementation.
Well put.
But all they have to do is change a couple of numbers, no need to remove them entirely. This thread is ********. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6481
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Posted - 2014.12.19 10:40:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Salvage in pubs was nearly nonexistent to begin with? And as far as I know, has not decreased.
You have taken the words out of my mouth.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
18057
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Posted - 2014.12.19 10:54:00 -
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Pretty sure community is already sick and tired of content getting removed.
Also No.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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Lazer Fo Cused
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.19 11:21:00 -
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1. How do you pay for salvage? |
Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
484
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:08:00 -
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Not Signing... Simply because your petition asks for the total removal of the system, rather than working with what we got.
Do I think it's perfect? Absolutely NOT.
Do I like the concept? Absolutely.
In the few matches I have played I have not noticed a decrease in normal salvage...(but hey, I could be wrong?)
The mechanics and logic is good, but the box drop rate needs to be cut drastically. --> 1 key per 10 boxes.
It should not cost you a fortune to open every box you get, and right now the drop rate is silly.
That is my only grievance with the system.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
653
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:42:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:This.
I love how they finally gave us the option to sell unwanted salvage, and then basically took salvage away a few weeks later >.<
/Signed. Didn't think about it like that until you mentioned it. Which makes it even more hilarious, when you think about it like this: - They make you buy an Agent to get the maximum returns... - They take away salvage and replace it with these salvage boxes... - You can open the salvage boxes, but only if you spend -MORE- money.... - And what you get out of the salvage boxes is AURUM GEAR which is essentially worthless because it costs MORE MONEY to restock. So, basically, the scheme here is that: We pay for these keys to open these mystery boxes, get a random assortment of things that we can sell BUT AT A REDUCED RATE 
Yes, and it still promotes protostomping via those who play PC for isk then come down and farm pubs like scrubs. We casuals still can't make the money enough to stay in proto everything.
Boycott Black Thursday!
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE
Xer Cloud Consortium
75
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:44:00 -
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10/10 for CPM publicity stunt.
K den.
We immortals are but shadows and K den mercs. Shadows and K den!.
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan
General Tso's Alliance
1710
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:46:00 -
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/signed because I like signing things.
Texted my wife. She said she wants two holo strippers for her room. She also wants a holo penguin butler.
-Ripley
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BRUTAL TRON
Eternal Beings
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:51:00 -
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/Signed.
Logi mk.0 Assault mk.0 Scout mk.0 & gk.0
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE
Xer Cloud Consortium
75
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Posted - 2014.12.19 12:55:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:No one is forcing you to open the strongboxes.
Be an adult and ignore them. Or continue to act like a child and make these pointless threads.
This, so much this.
K den.
We immortals are but shadows and K den mercs. Shadows and K den!.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
5491
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:07:00 -
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No, I have a better idea.
Make strong boxes deploy-able in the field for cover.
Strongbox forts!
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Corbina Ninja
Expert Intervention
1113
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:16:00 -
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boxes must be four types
-Amarr
-Caldari
-Gallente
-Minmatar
you should be able to buy their keys in the LP market
the hacked keys purchased for AUR should open all types
you can farm a key type and open 1/4 boxes
or two types of keys and open half of boxes and farm twice
if you want to get the remaining key types you will need to buy a booster or lose faction standing
farm or pay
I think this is better than the current model of the mystery box for money
«Questa è l'Italia del futuro: un paese di musichette mentre fuori c'è la morte.»
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m621 zma
231
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pretty sure community is already sick and tired of content getting removed.
Also No.
LOL community. |
m621 zma
231
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:40:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:This.
I love how they finally gave us the option to sell unwanted salvage, and then basically took salvage away a few weeks later >.<
/Signed.
+1
/Signed |
Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1285
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pretty sure community is already sick and tired of content getting removed.
Also No.
Agreed.
We don't yank weapons when they're out-of-balance; we balance them. Why yank this new content if we can finetune it to make for a more rewarding experience?
* Adjust strongbox:key pickup ratio from 50:1 to 20:1 (or better)
* Add Key Cache to strongbox loot (Fox Gaden)
* Add Passive/Active Boosters to strongbox loot (Delt)
* Add ultra-rare strongbox exclusives (i.e. BPO Light Wpns tagged as Sidearms, BPO vehicles, etc)
* Add rarity ratings and tweak strongbox aura (blue, purple, gold)
* Add an Isk value to strongboxes and permit their sale via market |
Jathniel
G I A N T
1334
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Posted - 2014.12.19 16:35:00 -
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/signed
Maybe throw a clause for the removal of the auto-dampener as well?
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
5075
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Posted - 2014.12.19 17:02:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:No, I have a better idea.
Make strong boxes deploy-able in the field for cover.
Strongbox forts!
This would be hilarious. Some people have enough to make a strongbox palace.
if you could jump on the strongboxes, you could build staircases up to high spots you couldn't reach without a dropship before. It's like Minecraft for DUST. :D
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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AndyAndio
0uter.Heaven
115
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Posted - 2014.12.19 17:15:00 -
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I agree, or they just can give us the option to sell the strongboxes for ISK, i played for the last 3 days, and i have already 300+
2013 DUST 514's MVP of the Year.-
Retired for Love of the Game
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1547
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Posted - 2014.12.19 17:18:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:No, I have a better idea.
Make strong boxes deploy-able in the field for cover.
Strongbox forts! This would be hilarious. Some people have enough to make a strongbox palace. if you could jump on the strongboxes, you could build staircases up to high spots you couldn't reach without a dropship before. It's like Minecraft for DUST. :D
Why is the only time I see a good CPM idea, the same time they are trolling ....
Then tomorrow I'll read an actual proposal and think... this guy must be trolling 
As for removal of boxes or fixes to droprates.... You guys Suck.
CCP bother to add something, you flood the forums with complaints...
CCP give away a stupid amount of boxes, you complain some more...
CCP want your money to build their game... more complaints
I understand why people are bugged, but really?? get some restraint and ignore the boxes...
These over-flowing tear buckets could be filled with much more productive QQ. |
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