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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7514
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:40:00 -
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Adding one last spreadsheet to list tonight because clearly CCP (who developed this change) and the CPM (who absent mindedly approved it) have no idea what the community wants anymore. (Hint: We want our salvage without having to [kitten] pay for it). Why should -WE- have to pay for the salvage that -WE- earned?
Add your name below with a '/signed' and I'll add it to the spreadsheet.
CCP: We want our salvage back!
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
2036
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:47:00 -
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/Signed
Goodbye.
Biomassed
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Zaria Min Deir
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
926
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:49:00 -
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This.
I love how they finally gave us the option to sell unwanted salvage, and then basically took salvage away a few weeks later >.<
/Signed.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
650
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:50:00 -
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/signed
Boycott Black Thursday!
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Vicious Minotaur
1533
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:53:00 -
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Here.
I am a minotaur.
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7514
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:54:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:This.
I love how they finally gave us the option to sell unwanted salvage, and then basically took salvage away a few weeks later >.<
/Signed.
Didn't think about it like that until you mentioned it.
Which makes it even more hilarious, when you think about it like this:
- They make you buy an Agent to get the maximum returns...
- They take away salvage and replace it with these salvage boxes...
- You can open the salvage boxes, but only if you spend -MORE- money....
- And what you get out of the salvage boxes is AURUM GEAR which is essentially worthless because it costs MORE MONEY to restock.
So, basically, the scheme here is that: We pay for these keys to open these mystery boxes, get a random assortment of things that we can sell BUT AT A REDUCED RATE 
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Hector Carson
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
110
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:54:00 -
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/signed
My Corp fights for whoever has money, Primarily PC battles
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
910
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:56:00 -
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/signed
No one does it better than PIE
Lasers4life
"Jesus!"yelled the blues "No, my name is Forever" I replied
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1981
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:57:00 -
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Or
Why not make keys less pricey, introduce rare strongboxes with really high end gear like officer weapons and drop suits and items like boosters in them and get rid of regular boxes.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7514
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:03:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Or
Why not make keys less pricey, introduce rare strongboxes with really high end gear like officer weapons and drop suits and items like boosters in them and get rid of regular boxes.
Or how about we get rid of them entirely so we can have our in-game ISK variant salvage back? If CCP had asked us before implementing this crock, I'm sure the general community would have unanimously said 'No, we do not want to no longer receive salvage from fighting.'
It'd be like, in Eve Online, if you blew up someone's ship and the only way to get the stuff out of the wreck was by paying CCP $0.40 every single time you wanted to retrieve the loot YOU FOUGHT FOR.
The salvage boxes serve absolutely no purpose besides forcing players to spend money for something that we normally got for playing the game. We got the salvage because we fought and killed other players, playing their game. I would expect this out of a subscription based game where you could bypass the salvage boxes by being a subscriber, but this is just ridiculous.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5170
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:11:00 -
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I wouldn't mind them if they gave free keys way more often.
However, if boxes are out, I expect more missions to give away free stuff. Like, AT LEAST 5/10 missions must ALWAYS hand out items.
If we just get rid of them, then we'd be getting rid of another thing that could've been cool, but turned out the other way.
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Lynn Beck
Delta Vanguard 6
2329
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:12:00 -
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B-But I just got 5 of those fancy new yellow lobbing mass drivers... On my first box.
Oh and my second box had a Gastun's Forge.
Oh and my 3rd box had 19 Complex Energizers.
No pics, but I kid you not. I had a squadmate there.
General John Ripper
-BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse.
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7515
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:25:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I wouldn't mind them if they gave free keys way more often.
However, if boxes are out, I expect more missions to give away free stuff. Like, AT LEAST 5/10 missions must ALWAYS hand out items.
If we just get rid of them, then we'd be getting rid of another thing that could've been cool, but turned out the other way.
I vote for the balancing of boxes.
The daily missions thing is cool but it doesn't account for a player's individual play-time. If you were only going to play five or six matches, the daily missions probably give an equal value of ISK as you would have normally gotten.
HOWEVER, if you're a player that would normally play for marathon sessions and get salvage every match, they basically just hit your payouts with a nerf sledgehammer.
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
282
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:32:00 -
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Signed |
Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
1036
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:34:00 -
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I don't really see a difference in my salvage other than I now get boxes in lieu of nothing(still get nothing sometimes, but a lot less often). The rate of getting normal salvage items seems to be the same for me, I just now get tons of useless boxes as well.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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First Prophet
Followers of The Prophet
2147
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:36:00 -
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/Signed
People find this this review helpful!
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1390
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:36:00 -
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I do NOT sign.
It is a good system BUT we need more keys, less boxes as daily mission rewards, and the boxes need to be a little more geared towards the player on rewards. This frontline special edition bull spit from boxes has got to go. |
Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
1077
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:45:00 -
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You guys are unbelievable it's been like two weeks. Did you read the description? Obviously the current system has issues but there is going to be other ways aroynd and as always there will be tweaks to drop rates etc.
"wah ccp added stuff now I get less ****** salvage QQ "
Plus there's no proof other salvage rates have decreases due to more boxes. Everyone who signs this is an idiot. |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
5066
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:53:00 -
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Salvage in pubs was nearly nonexistent to begin with? And as far as I know, has not decreased.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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jane stalin
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:54:00 -
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/signed ,
At the moment they are annoying people
The price of keys should be lower
The vast majority of people that buy keys think they were ripped off, I certainly did
There should be an option to swap 1000 boxes for 100,000SP , It would make one day month a nice day,
They should give away keys for behavior that helps the community, For example for every 2nd battle you have for Amarr
you should get a key
I think they should clarify that strong boxes are an extra, the amount of salvage has not decreased.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
216
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:58:00 -
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Salvage should be a gameplay mechanic that has the winners scanning burned out vehicle wrecks following a battle. Not paying realworld money for a chance of rare gear. Flipping moneygrab.
+1
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
216
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Posted - 2014.12.19 07:03:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:You guys are unbelievable it's been like two weeks. Did you read the description? Obviously the current system has issues but there is going to be other ways aroynd and as always there will be tweaks to drop rates etc.
"wah ccp added stuff now I get less ****** salvage QQ "
Plus there's no proof other salvage rates have decreases due to more boxes. Everyone who signs this is an idiot.
CCP alt spotted...
Shoehorning a moneygrab into an existing mechanic and claiming its an improvement is foolhardy imo.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
1078
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Posted - 2014.12.19 07:07:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:Boot Booter wrote:You guys are unbelievable it's been like two weeks. Did you read the description? Obviously the current system has issues but there is going to be other ways aroynd and as always there will be tweaks to drop rates etc.
"wah ccp added stuff now I get less ****** salvage QQ "
Plus there's no proof other salvage rates have decreases due to more boxes. Everyone who signs this is an idiot. CCP alt spotted... Shoehorning a moneygrab into an existing mechanic and claiming its an improvement is foolhardy imo.
Aw shoot I'm busted, or I possess a foresight greater than a four year old. Guess we will never know.
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7519
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Posted - 2014.12.19 07:40:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Lady MDK wrote:Boot Booter wrote:You guys are unbelievable it's been like two weeks. Did you read the description? Obviously the current system has issues but there is going to be other ways aroynd and as always there will be tweaks to drop rates etc.
"wah ccp added stuff now I get less ****** salvage QQ "
Plus there's no proof other salvage rates have decreases due to more boxes. Everyone who signs this is an idiot. CCP alt spotted... Shoehorning a moneygrab into an existing mechanic and claiming its an improvement is foolhardy imo. Aw shoot I'm busted, or I possess a foresight greater than a four year old. Guess we will never know.
You do realize that it's $5 for every 10 boxes, right? We had a perfectly functional, working, reasonable system to begin with and now it's been turned into just another money grab. A lot of us don't care about the 'tweaks to drop rates' or 'other ways around', it's a silly, stupid system that has no place in the game. There is no justifiable reason to have it in the game other than to make money and it directly interferes with the very essence of what New Eden is supposed to be.
Chill with the CCP Fanboyism for a second, please.
EDIT: Seriously, if CCP isn't making enough money through BPOs, Boosters, and Respecs/Market Agents, maybe it's time to just call it quits before this goes any further and starts having a more direct impact on the game like Aurum only skill books or some non-sense.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2862
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Posted - 2014.12.19 07:48:00 -
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Lets be honest. The strongbox system has promise but implementation is leaving a lot to be desired.
I totally understand CCP`s desire to want to make money, honestly I am not a fool. However there is little incentive to spend money to open boxes right now because they mostly contain crap. Call it as it is - right now its extreme gambling.
It needs reworking at best.
On top of that,
since these changes came through the paltry amount of loot we used to salvage seems to be even more rare now.
It feels as if strongboxes have replaced a lot of the loot we would get before.
My main concern and gripe however, is I have yet to see a single officer weapon drop. I feel as if officer weapons have been turned from a rare loot mechanism in game to a pay-wall of gambling where you have a good chance of not even getting said rare loot, even if you DO actually pay for keys.
I am quite saddened by the whole strongbox fiasco as it could have been a much better system.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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GLOBAL fils'de RAGE
Consolidated Dust
87
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Posted - 2014.12.19 07:58:00 -
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I requested a spinning rainbow kick with a sparkle effect to open the loot boxes, back when lesion was announced. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.12.19 07:58:00 -
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I'd be fine with Strongboxes if the bloody thrice-damned things did NOT have that stupid bright orange attention marker...
Now I have two markers I can't turn off, my Strongboxes and my Boosters, if I get another I'm going to burn something down...
I despise clutter...
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
476
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Posted - 2014.12.19 08:04:00 -
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/signed
Side effects of playing Dust:
Emotional trauma, Anger Management issues, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and Depression
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Her Chosen
Grade No.2
148
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Posted - 2014.12.19 08:15:00 -
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/signed
STRONG BOX ROLE CALL
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Robocop Junior
research lab
1021
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Posted - 2014.12.19 08:15:00 -
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I'll sign cause I'm a follower.
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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