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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:40:00 -
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Adding one last spreadsheet to list tonight because clearly CCP (who developed this change) and the CPM (who absent mindedly approved it) have no idea what the community wants anymore. (Hint: We want our salvage without having to [kitten] pay for it). Why should -WE- have to pay for the salvage that -WE- earned?
Add your name below with a '/signed' and I'll add it to the spreadsheet.
CCP: We want our salvage back!
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.19 05:54:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:This.
I love how they finally gave us the option to sell unwanted salvage, and then basically took salvage away a few weeks later >.<
/Signed.
Didn't think about it like that until you mentioned it.
Which makes it even more hilarious, when you think about it like this:
- They make you buy an Agent to get the maximum returns...
- They take away salvage and replace it with these salvage boxes...
- You can open the salvage boxes, but only if you spend -MORE- money....
- And what you get out of the salvage boxes is AURUM GEAR which is essentially worthless because it costs MORE MONEY to restock.
So, basically, the scheme here is that: We pay for these keys to open these mystery boxes, get a random assortment of things that we can sell BUT AT A REDUCED RATE 
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:03:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Or
Why not make keys less pricey, introduce rare strongboxes with really high end gear like officer weapons and drop suits and items like boosters in them and get rid of regular boxes.
Or how about we get rid of them entirely so we can have our in-game ISK variant salvage back? If CCP had asked us before implementing this crock, I'm sure the general community would have unanimously said 'No, we do not want to no longer receive salvage from fighting.'
It'd be like, in Eve Online, if you blew up someone's ship and the only way to get the stuff out of the wreck was by paying CCP $0.40 every single time you wanted to retrieve the loot YOU FOUGHT FOR.
The salvage boxes serve absolutely no purpose besides forcing players to spend money for something that we normally got for playing the game. We got the salvage because we fought and killed other players, playing their game. I would expect this out of a subscription based game where you could bypass the salvage boxes by being a subscriber, but this is just ridiculous.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.19 06:25:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I wouldn't mind them if they gave free keys way more often.
However, if boxes are out, I expect more missions to give away free stuff. Like, AT LEAST 5/10 missions must ALWAYS hand out items.
If we just get rid of them, then we'd be getting rid of another thing that could've been cool, but turned out the other way.
I vote for the balancing of boxes.
The daily missions thing is cool but it doesn't account for a player's individual play-time. If you were only going to play five or six matches, the daily missions probably give an equal value of ISK as you would have normally gotten.
HOWEVER, if you're a player that would normally play for marathon sessions and get salvage every match, they basically just hit your payouts with a nerf sledgehammer.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.19 07:40:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Lady MDK wrote:Boot Booter wrote:You guys are unbelievable it's been like two weeks. Did you read the description? Obviously the current system has issues but there is going to be other ways aroynd and as always there will be tweaks to drop rates etc.
"wah ccp added stuff now I get less ****** salvage QQ "
Plus there's no proof other salvage rates have decreases due to more boxes. Everyone who signs this is an idiot. CCP alt spotted... Shoehorning a moneygrab into an existing mechanic and claiming its an improvement is foolhardy imo. Aw shoot I'm busted, or I possess a foresight greater than a four year old. Guess we will never know.
You do realize that it's $5 for every 10 boxes, right? We had a perfectly functional, working, reasonable system to begin with and now it's been turned into just another money grab. A lot of us don't care about the 'tweaks to drop rates' or 'other ways around', it's a silly, stupid system that has no place in the game. There is no justifiable reason to have it in the game other than to make money and it directly interferes with the very essence of what New Eden is supposed to be.
Chill with the CCP Fanboyism for a second, please.
EDIT: Seriously, if CCP isn't making enough money through BPOs, Boosters, and Respecs/Market Agents, maybe it's time to just call it quits before this goes any further and starts having a more direct impact on the game like Aurum only skill books or some non-sense.
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Posted - 2014.12.22 06:01:00 -
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Fair warning, I'm not keeping up with this (the spreadsheet) because of a recent talk I had with a former CPM convincing me to look at things in a different light.
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