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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:12:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote: That. You see where it all went wrong? they knew full well that heavys was a skilless role, but they put it in the game anyway.
After adding a mechanic adding skill to it. Oh really? If the role really did need some skill, then why do you need two players to take down one heavy? Are you all okay with this? Remember when you all said tanks shouldn't need more than one player to beat because it wasn't balanced? why should heavys be an exception? |
Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
13943
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Posted - 2014.12.16 19:03:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote: That. You see where it all went wrong? they knew full well that heavys was a skilless role, but they put it in the game anyway.
After adding a mechanic adding skill to it. Oh really? If the role really did need some skill, then why do you need two players to take down one heavy? Are you all okay with this? Remember when you all said tanks shouldn't need more than one player to beat because it wasn't balanced? why should heavys be an exception? Are we still talking about Team Fortress 2?
Because in Team Fortress 2 heavies can be easily dispatched by many classes. Snipers can one hit kill with a headshot, Spies wreck heavies, demomen can lay traps, Soldiers only have 100 less HP and can gain a range advantage, etc'.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
5441
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Posted - 2014.12.16 19:10:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I am the Nanites of my Plate. Steelmine is my Gold, and Boundless is my rage. I have Shot over a thousand Bullets. Unknown to Nerfs, nor known to Balance. Have withstood Plasma to biomass many clones. Yet, these hands will never drop equipment. So, as I spray, Unlimited Sentinel Works.
The True "Unlimited Sentinel": Raven Standard Amarr Sentinel BPO Militia HMG BPO Toxin SMG BPO Militia Flux Grenade BPO 3x Militia Armour Repair BPO
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
5443
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Posted - 2014.12.16 19:41:00 -
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Here is a Public Service Announcement that might have barring to this discussion:
Fox Gaden wrote:Weapons that are effective at killing Sentinels: - Remote Explosives - Plasma Cannon - Shotgun - Nova Knife - Charged Sniper Rifle (head shot) - Bolt Pistol/Scrambler Pistol (head shots) - Forge Gun - HMG
With other weapons you should avoid a stand-up fight and try to wear them down instead. -Weapon Combinations such as Flux Grenade + Projectile weapon. -Multiple Rifles fired from different angles. Teamwork. -Hit & run. Wear them down over multiple engagements. (If they have logi kill the logi first.) -Mass Drivers, despite the 25% resistance, can be effective if you use cover and keep pounding them.
You will notice that most of the weapons that are effective in killing Sentinels are either Scout or Sentinel weapons. This is because the Scout is the counter to Sentinel (Paper beats Rock) and any class is effective against itself. For an Assault suit the Plasma Cannon is probably your best bet, although there are a few other weapons you could use. If you are not using a Sentinel killing weapon on your Assault suit, then you need to use tactics instead. Once any logi are eliminated it becomes a war of attrition, and most Assault suits move faster and recover faster than most Sentinels.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.12.16 21:41:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote: That. You see where it all went wrong? they knew full well that heavys was a skilless role, but they put it in the game anyway.
After adding a mechanic adding skill to it. Oh really? If the role really did need some skill, then why do you need two players to take down one heavy? Are you all okay with this? Remember when you all said tanks shouldn't need more than one player to beat because it wasn't balanced? why should heavys be an exception? Are we still talking about Team Fortress 2? Because in Team Fortress 2 heavies can be easily dispatched by many classes. Snipers can one hit kill with a headshot, Spies wreck heavies, demomen can lay traps, Soldiers only have 100 less HP and can gain a range advantage, etc'. No, where talking about DUST514. Are you all that biased to keep heavys in the game? They need to go. CCP should never of made them in the first place. |
Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
13948
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Posted - 2014.12.16 22:05:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Here is a Public Service Announcement that might have barring to this discussion: Fox Gaden wrote:Weapons that are effective at killing Sentinels: - Remote Explosives - Plasma Cannon - Shotgun - Nova Knife - Charged Sniper Rifle (head shot) - Bolt Pistol/Scrambler Pistol (head shots) - Forge Gun - HMG
With other weapons you should avoid a stand-up fight and try to wear them down instead. -Weapon Combinations such as Flux Grenade + Projectile weapon. -Multiple Rifles fired from different angles. Teamwork. -Hit & run. Wear them down over multiple engagements. (If they have logi kill the logi first.) -Mass Drivers, despite the 25% resistance, can be effective if you use cover and keep pounding them.
You will notice that most of the weapons that are effective in killing Sentinels are either Scout or Sentinel weapons. This is because the Scout is the counter to Sentinel (Paper beats Rock) and any class is effective against itself. For an Assault suit the Plasma Cannon is probably your best bet, although there are a few other weapons you could use. If you are not using a Sentinel killing weapon on your Assault suit, then you need to use tactics instead. Once any logi are eliminated it becomes a war of attrition, and most Assault suits move faster and recover faster than most Sentinels. While I am proficient at hunting Sentinels at this point, it doesn't change how incredibly dominant they are.
It's no exaggeration when people say that PC matches are won by who can spam sentinels the hardest.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1946
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Posted - 2014.12.16 22:35:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I am the Nanites of my Plate. Steelmine is my Gold, and Boundless is my rage. I have Shot over a thousand Bullets. Unknown to Nerfs, nor known to Balance. Have withstood Plasma to biomass many clones. Yet, these hands will never drop equipment. So, as I spray, Unlimited Sentinel Works. I am the Product of my Rage. Knives are my body, and Biotics are my blood. I have stabbed over a thousand Heavies Unkown to their Logi's nor known to their Scanners. Have withstood HMG's to assassinate many Clones. Yet, these knives will never slay in PC. So, as I slay, Unlimited Knives Works
My ARR is a product of my Rage EQ is my body, and Nanites, my blood. I have repped over a thousand heavies Unknown to slaying, nor to death. Have withstood Core Fluxes to drop many uplinks Yet, these hands shall never wield a sidearm. So, as I say, Unlimited Logi Works.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò V GùòS¦¦n++killer of Cat Merc/Feathered overlord of all.
15 Quafe Ck.0s!
357 boxes...0 keys
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
2280
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Posted - 2014.12.16 22:51:00 -
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Kuruld Sengar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I **** Remote Explosives and **** Shotgun shells.
Am I proving a point if I say I listen to last resort by roach, and the sweenie todd sound track when I play minja? But what if none of their clones were saved They got turned to paste while impeccably shaved By minjas! By minja scouts! The demon barbers of Eden
Do not go gentle into that good night;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1949
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Posted - 2014.12.16 23:05:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Kuruld Sengar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I **** Remote Explosives and **** Shotgun shells.
Am I proving a point if I say I listen to last resort by roach, and the sweenie todd sound track when I play minja? But what if none of their clones were saved They got turned to paste while impeccably shaved By minjas! By minja scouts! The demon barbers of Eden Want to know what's funny? I have 2 fits, one Minscout and one Calscout, that are scouts. My Minscout is desogned to hack. It carries a AScR and a SMG.
My Calscout is designed to kill. It carries a Shotgun and ADV Nova Knives.
I am the new breed of Nova Knifer... I am ______ (Can someone fill in that blank?)
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò V GùòS¦¦n++killer of Cat Merc/Feathered overlord of all.
15 Quafe Ck.0s!
357 boxes...0 keys
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3170
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Posted - 2014.12.17 01:30:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Kuruld Sengar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I **** Remote Explosives and **** Shotgun shells.
Am I proving a point if I say I listen to last resort by roach, and the sweenie todd sound track when I play minja? But what if none of their clones were saved They got turned to paste while impeccably shaved By minjas! By minja scouts! The demon barbers of Eden Want to know what's funny? I have 2 fits, one Minscout and one Calscout, that are scouts. My Minscout is desogned to hack. It carries a AScR and a SMG. My Calscout is designed to kill. It carries a Shotgun and ADV Nova Knives. I am the new breed of Nova Knifer... I am stupid (Can someone fill in that blank?)
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1136
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Posted - 2014.12.17 09:32:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Kuruld Sengar wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I **** Remote Explosives and **** Shotgun shells.
Am I proving a point if I say I listen to last resort by roach, and the sweenie todd sound track when I play minja? But what if none of their clones were saved They got turned to paste while impeccably shaved By minjas! By minja scouts! The demon barbers of Eden Want to know what's funny? I have 2 fits, one Minscout and one Calscout, that are scouts. My Minscout is desogned to hack. It carries a AScR and a SMG. My Calscout is designed to kill. It carries a Shotgun and ADV Nova Knives. I am the new breed of Nova Knifer... I am sir RAVEN WING (Can someone fill in that blank?)
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
14043
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Posted - 2014.12.22 23:26:00 -
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I am the Ions of my Pistol. Armor is my body and nanites is my blood I have charged over a thousand shots Unknown to Hits, Nor known to Detection Have withstood pain to overheat many ions Yet, this hip fire will never hit anything So as I charge, Unlimited Ion Works.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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Lloyd Orfay
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
293
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Posted - 2014.12.23 00:28:00 -
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My turn.
Am the one who see you, but also blind to sparkly stealth vampires
Am the one who those say no at.
I rise, my weapon roars
The roaring overcomes no.
Me, am the one who.
Shoots scouts with yes. |
Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
14045
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Posted - 2014.12.23 03:22:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:My turn.
Am the one who see you, but also blind to sparkly stealth vampires
Am the one who those say no at.
I rise, my weapon roars
The roaring overcomes no.
Me, am the one who.
Shoots scouts with yes. This will never die, will it?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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Ice Royal Glantix
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
45
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Posted - 2014.12.23 05:08:00 -
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I am the heavy version of assault Slow is my body, and frail is my blood I have used over a thousand light weapons Unaware of sidearms, nor aware of grenades Withstood pain to fire rifles, shotguns, and swarms Suppression is my destiny, my role to fulfil So as I reload, Unlimited Commando Works!
"Don't be dead; be happy!"
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1134
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Posted - 2014.12.23 05:56:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:If we're on the topic of poems about heavies... Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Yellow scout, Red scout Green scout, Dead scout Rail scout, tank scout Thales scout, gank scout Shotty or combat rifle? in the redline? sniper rifle! You think I'm fast? I need no car! Ill jump out with my ARR! Things can kill me? They're OP! CCP, buff the RE! Whats that? Im a noob? Get gud scrub, I have more HP than you! I like EZ mode, its not my cloak! Why should I have to skill into much? Right now we are super UP. Thats why we're the only suit you see! Even better, Ill drive a tank. Watch me jump out with my shotty OH wow, you got instaganked! I just need this suit that makes you respawn Its not my fault my aiming blows
A poem by Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p (revised)
This is far more accurate. Now back to the delusional barbershop where you can try to get everything nerfed against scouts. K den. Remember when the barbershop got scouts nerfed?
Good times
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Patrick57
I Have No Idea What I'm Doing
9490
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Posted - 2014.12.23 06:27:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:Not sure if you know this.. But the Forge gun needs a ROF buff.
Now with new triple ring design it should also get it's 3m splash back as well. *Looks at NextDark Knight* *looks at cat merc looking at nextdark knight*
i like waffles
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Zeke Dunevent
0uter.Heaven
26
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Posted - 2014.12.23 06:33:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:Not sure if you know this.. But the Forge gun needs a ROF buff.
Now with new triple ring design it should also get it's 3m splash back as well. *Looks at NextDark Knight* *looks at cat merc looking at nextdark knight* *Looks at Patrick57 looking at Cat Merc looking at NextDark Knight*
I think I know a lot.
I can run just about anything.
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
2087
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Posted - 2014.12.23 06:59:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:If we're on the topic of poems about heavies... Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Yellow scout, Red scout Green scout, Dead scout Rail scout, tank scout Thales scout, gank scout Shotty or combat rifle? in the redline? sniper rifle! You think I'm fast? I need no car! Ill jump out with my ARR! Things can kill me? They're OP! CCP, buff the RE! Whats that? Im a noob? Get gud scrub, I have more HP than you! < - - - Uh... What?!? I like EZ mode, its not my cloak! Why should I have to skill into much? Right now we are super UP. Thats why we're the only suit you see! Even better, Ill drive a tank. Watch me jump out with my shotty OH wow, you got instaganked! I just need this suit that makes you respawn Its not my fault my aiming blows
A poem by Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p (revised)
This is far more accurate. Now back to the delusional barbershop where you can try to get everything nerfed against scouts. K den. Remember when the barbershop got scouts nerfed? Good times
"Raven's damn good with those knives." - Maleki
If I didn't want you to see me, I would've brought a cloak.
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
14095
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Posted - 2014.12.26 16:54:00 -
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So as I spray, Unlimited Sentinel Works
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
2185
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Posted - 2014.12.26 17:23:00 -
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I kept a room under Caldari control for 9 minutes while being pelting with HMG bullets and Grenades and Scouts and evry damn thing you could throw.
12 sents were a little too hard to kill for my State Assault Ck.0 w/ Proto ARR. Kill count in that clone: 24. Kill count all together that match: 47/12.
Bring it! :p Now assaults shall rule! Well if you know how to use them.
"Raven's damn good with those knives." - Maleki
"The Gallente have proven unworthy of respect."
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Mad Kras
SVER True Blood
101
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Posted - 2014.12.26 21:07:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I am the Nanites of my Plate. Steelmine is my Gold, and Boundless is my rage. I have Shot over a thousand Bullets. Unknown to Nerfs, nor known to Balance. Have withstood Plasma to biomass many clones. Yet, these hands will never drop equipment. So, as I spray, Unlimited Sentinel Works.
Fate/Stay Night <3
Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5
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