DUST Search - Scouts are done.

Sir Dukey wrote:

Mejt0 wrote:

Sir Dukey wrote:

Mejt0 wrote:

No thay are not.
SG/NK scouts still terrorize in towns and outside points.

Ps. Why are people constantly telling that : gal,is ez mode, cal is done, minja is hardcore, amarr is [something]?
Minmatar scout only looses little portion of hp compared to other scouts while having great bonuses [hack/nk]. It also have its speed.
Minja - the one worth using.

Hacking is a minor bonus. It's worth one complex complex codebreaker which is much easily put on another suit. Nova knive bonus is useless because everybody and their mother can scan you if go up behind them. They see you coming, the back pedal, boom boom dead.

Someone would need 2codebreakers to be almost like minja with one [most fits] and it's good bonus.

Who will scan you? You mean these paethic 6-7m [with skills] scan range?
I would already charge my NK before someone would notice me on tancet. 6-7m is literaly 3steps for minja.

Shhh... you don't know young one. I have been there and done that and I know all. BTW, Minmatar scout with no skills has less base hacking abilities than the min logi. P.S. the logi has 2 more slots. Let me go make a protofit real quick to show you.

Protofits doesn't want to load: But here are the facts a Standard Minmatar Logi with one complex codebreaker had a hacking spee factor of 1.88 and a prototype minmatar scout no code breaker has a hacking speed factor of 1.72 which is .10 less than the LOGI!! also P.S. A prototype Min logi has one extra low slot and high slot over the min scout. So basically by putting on one complex codebreaker it used up one of it's EXTRA lows to get to min scout status.

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Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1053	Posted - 2014.12.10 02:39:00 - [61] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Assault 514 Welp, it's official. There is almost nothing left to complain about. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 338	Posted - 2014.12.10 02:54:00 - [62] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Assault 514 Welp, it's official. There is almost nothing left to complain about. <3 Assault. Minmatar could use a make over though and Caldari could use a better bonus. The State will always survive.
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1070	Posted - 2014.12.10 02:56:00 - [63] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Assault 514 Welp, it's official. There is almost nothing left to complain about. We're getting close. Assault sales have finally overtaken Scout sales: http://dust.thang.dk/market_historycategory.php Hoping the post-1.10 numbers favor Assault by wider margin. The sooner we help the remaining "assault scouts" find their way to Assault the better. The HP nerfs outlined in Echo should do the trick. In the mean time, we should stick to our guns and not throw handouts in response to tears from "assault scouts". These were never Scouts to begin with.
Robocop Junior research lab 845	Posted - 2014.12.10 02:58:00 - [64] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: I couldn't disagree more! I find it easier to FG the closer the enemy is, especially a behemoth lumbering along. People tend to panic as soon as those blue balls whizz by their face, especially HMGers, they tend to rush the kill and overheat. 80% is very exaggerated. I tend to nail any target no matter what range by the second shot. If I don't connect by then and the HMGer gets within optimal, 3 complex cardiacs allows me time to outrun any armor plated heavy. Please, if it was that successful the #1 killing weapon in PC would be FG, but is it? IMO you're just talking bullsh*t, a HMG will melt you before you even done charging. IMO your opinion means puff diddly, gangsta lean, and squat. One word: Alldin. If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Meeko Fent True Illuminate 2249	Posted - 2014.12.10 03:01:00 - [65] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Heavy-Assault 514 it is. BTW CCP-- thanks for handing over the scout role to the logistics. Great buff. u lulwhat? So scouts are supposed to be the ones to drop equipment for the team? / I am the bluedot. And I will rise again.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1392	Posted - 2014.12.10 03:16:00 - [66] - Quote Though my scout gk.0 is dead i am getting proto Amarr Assault ^^. Then Logi for making da moooney and heavy for decimating things Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 71	Posted - 2014.12.10 05:29:00 - [67] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Watch all the real scouts return to the game. The ones that know what a scout is supposed to do. Not those 1.8 FOTM scouts, but the real deal scouts. Can't wait to log on! What do you mean "real" scouts. Scout have no role anymore. Caldari scout has almost the same scan range as a logistics suit!!! (thread in feedback/discussion). You make no WP for scanning people. If I layed scout like a scout being a pu$$y and staying far back to give team scans, my team would be the one making the WP and im just a piece of equipment. Have you ever though and thought about if logis didn't get wp fro being a logi, they would turn to killing. This is same as scout, if they can't make WP providing scans, they will kill. I have a CAL pusyoto fitting lots of antennas and with a focused scaner, cr with a dmg mod. On some maps I use my "Illumiati" fitting while I camp and make smores for my corp mates who are feeding off my passives. The foused scanner is so i can control my misc. blue minions when they get confused as to what they need to be doing. We need a piece of equipment that temporarily boosts the ewar gear in our fits so we can burn through the fog of war, and get points while active like the active scanner.
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 165	Posted - 2014.12.10 05:47:00 - [68] - Quote Correction. FOTM cloaky ninja scouts are done. GOOD RIDDANCE! Welcome the return of scouts as scouts and light assaults. I always used it as such and will continue to enjoy it. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2875	Posted - 2014.12.10 06:30:00 - [69] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Cal Scout is pretty boned though. Even on the Min, I'm having real trouble making it with 2x Damps and cloak. I use my 3x damp shotgun fit fairly often now to allow me to get close enough. I have a Cal Scout with maxed ranks, and three ranks in damp. If I put even a pair of Enhanced Damps on the thing (And I do) I have 18 profile which dodges almost everything. If I actually bothered to max my damp skill on my main it would be trivial for the Cal Scout to dodge almost every scan. I have no issues murdering people with my PLC or Shotty Cal Scout fits, it's the second most naturally damped suit in the game due to the 15% inherent bonus it receives. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
CUSE WarLord KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 183	Posted - 2014.12.10 06:58:00 - [70] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: You would die before you hit the punk with a forgegun in CQC and in Long range you will miss about 80% of your shots. I think you just suck then. I've killed dozens of heavies with a Militia Forge Gun in CQC, sure I died immediately after but I got one all you have to do is charge before you turn a corner. And long range they are just as good so long as someone is making a B-Line (don't get that figure of speech) towards cover. Guess you never played good players. Go home and come back when you are successful in CQC with your militia FG in a PC. [/quote] dafuq you talking about your not on murphys PC team. stop crying every patch and do us all a favor and get good.

pegasis prime Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1857	Posted - 2014.12.10 06:59:00 - [71] - Quote I don't really think scouting is done for . I had many awesome games running solo in my cal scout c1 and Cko suits last night . I found very little had changed that would alter my playstyle . Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
austintrain No Skillz inc. 4	Posted - 2014.12.10 07:49:00 - [72] - Quote admittedly, i'm terrible at DUST, but i haven't noticed any difference... i can still run fast. i can still hack stuff. i'm still as fragile as a baby bird. and i still get instantly killed, the second anyone sees me. working as intended, no?
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 362	Posted - 2014.12.10 08:25:00 - [73] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: laughs to the point of coughing up blood 20k likes Arkena! My to-do list when i return to dust: Logi my own way to an OB, and never use the cloak on my minja! And have some ISK!
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 362	Posted - 2014.12.10 08:27:00 - [74] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Correction. FOTM cloaky ninja scouts are done. GOOD RIDDANCE! Welcome the return of scouts as scouts and light assaults. I always used it as such and will continue to enjoy it. I hope you mean cloaky shotgunning scouts, and ninja not minja if anything the minja was opposite FOTM...being the hardest scout to use My to-do list when i return to dust: Logi my own way to an OB, and never use the cloak on my minja! And have some ISK!
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1637	Posted - 2014.12.10 08:34:00 - [75] - Quote So people have finally realised the power of the min assault. Before my alt's respec I was using adv min assault with over 400 shields 200 armour and 9,71 run speed yet it took a nerf and bandwagonning fotm chasing for everyone to realise it... DUST VIDEOS
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3299	Posted - 2014.12.10 08:34:00 - [76] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Correction. FOTM cloaky ninja scouts are done. GOOD RIDDANCE! Welcome the return of scouts as scouts and light assaults. I always used it as such and will continue to enjoy it. I hope you mean cloaky shotgunning scouts, and ninja not minja if anything the minja was opposite FOTM...being the hardest scout to use Hmmm, yeah, instakill weapons are hard to use. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet". My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 362	Posted - 2014.12.10 08:43:00 - [77] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: xavier zor wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Correction. FOTM cloaky ninja scouts are done. GOOD RIDDANCE! Welcome the return of scouts as scouts and light assaults. I always used it as such and will continue to enjoy it. I hope you mean cloaky shotgunning scouts, and ninja not minja if anything the minja was opposite FOTM...being the hardest scout to use Hmmm, yeah, instakill weapons are hard to use. instakill weapons with a range of 2.5 metres and a charge time?? The minmitar scout also has low eHp and needs more dampeners to get under the radar. My to-do list when i return to dust: Logi my own way to an OB, and never use the cloak on my minja! And have some ISK!
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1086	Posted - 2014.12.10 12:53:00 - [78] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Correction. FOTM cloaky ninja scouts are done. GOOD RIDDANCE! Welcome the return of scouts as scouts and light assaults. I always used it as such and will continue to enjoy it. Is troll?
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 652	Posted - 2014.12.10 14:20:00 - [79] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: So people have finally realised the power of the min assault. Before my alt's respec I was using adv min assault with over 400 shields 200 armour and 9,71 run speed yet it took a nerf and bandwagonning fotm chasing for everyone to realise it... NO NO NO keep the FOTMs away from my matari suits, we can't afford to get hit with the nerf hammer Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8748	Posted - 2014.12.10 14:57:00 - [80] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Cal Scout is pretty boned though. Even on the Min, I'm having real trouble making it with 2x Damps and cloak. I use my 3x damp shotgun fit fairly often now to allow me to get close enough. I have a Cal Scout with maxed ranks, and three ranks in damp. If I put even a pair of Enhanced Damps on the thing (And I do) I have 18 profile which dodges almost everything. If I actually bothered to max my damp skill on my main it would be trivial for the Cal Scout to dodge almost every scan. I have no issues murdering people with my PLC or Shotty Cal Scout fits, it's the second most naturally damped suit in the game due to the 15% inherent bonus it receives. I forgot that it has a bonus to damps.... How does it fair with a single complex though? Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family

Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1216	Posted - 2014.12.10 15:04:00 - [81] - Quote A Murphy's guy crying? Thought I'd never see the day.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 1209	Posted - 2014.12.10 15:05:00 - [82] - Quote girl scouts are better than dust scouts anyway. they make better cookies
Varoth Drac Titans of Phoenix 467	Posted - 2014.12.10 15:05:00 - [83] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Cal Scout is pretty boned though. Even on the Min, I'm having real trouble making it with 2x Damps and cloak. I use my 3x damp shotgun fit fairly often now to allow me to get close enough. I have a Cal Scout with maxed ranks, and three ranks in damp. If I put even a pair of Enhanced Damps on the thing (And I do) I have 18 profile which dodges almost everything. If I actually bothered to max my damp skill on my main it would be trivial for the Cal Scout to dodge almost every scan. I have no issues murdering people with my PLC or Shotty Cal Scout fits, it's the second most naturally damped suit in the game due to the 15% inherent bonus it receives. I forgot that it has a bonus to damps.... How does it fair with a single complex though? According to the numbers, 1 damp on a Cal scout gives 20db. Realistically this isn't going to be scanned by anything over 8m other than a max precision Amarr scout, and even then only within 15m. This is unless focussed scanners become popular.
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 572	Posted - 2014.12.10 15:10:00 - [84] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Mejt0 wrote: No thay are not. SG/NK scouts still terrorize in towns and outside points. Ps. Why are people constantly telling that : gal,is ez mode, cal is done, minja is hardcore, amarr is [something]? Minmatar scout only looses little portion of hp compared to other scouts while having great bonuses [hack/nk]. It also have its speed. Minja - the one worth using. Hacking is a minor bonus. It's worth one complex complex codebreaker which is much easily put on another suit. Nova knive bonus is useless because everybody and their mother can scan you if go up behind them. They see you coming, the back pedal, boom boom dead. Someone would need 2codebreakers to be almost like minja with one [most fits] and it's good bonus. Who will scan you? You mean these paethic 6-7m [with skills] scan range? I would already charge my NK before someone would notice me on tancet. 6-7m is literaly 3steps for minja. Shhh... you don't know young one. I have been there and done that and I know all. BTW, Minmatar scout with no skills has less base hacking abilities than the min logi. P.S. the logi has 2 more slots. Let me go make a protofit real quick to show you. Protofits doesn't want to load: But here are the facts a Standard Minmatar Logi with one complex codebreaker had a hacking spee factor of 1.88 and a prototype minmatar scout no code breaker has a hacking speed factor of 1.72 which is .10 less than the LOGI!! also P.S. A prototype Min logi has one extra low slot and high slot over the min scout. So basically by putting on one complex codebreaker it used up one of it's EXTRA lows to get to min scout status. And for sure that logi will hack the point undetected and w/o instant death. [Answer is Nope.] Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 376	Posted - 2014.12.10 15:22:00 - [85] - Quote The op and its kind are done. Destinys 10 year plan was great.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 404	Posted - 2014.12.10 15:32:00 - [86] - Quote I'm doing just fine as an ak0. I don't damp or brick I use my suit as intended and I'm doing decent as a scout. And for you cloakers crying you are being scanned. No suit should be unscannable. That's just broken. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 341	Posted - 2014.12.10 16:19:00 - [87] - Quote For the death of scouts and everything but Assault and Sentinels I've seen alot of scouts still (not as bad as before), and a few Logis which is normal. I have noticed more heavies then normal (aka 4) but then again it could have been that the Ambush match was centered around a small silo. And like 2 other Assaults. The State will always survive.
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 166	Posted - 2014.12.11 03:53:00 - [88] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Correction. FOTM cloaky ninja scouts are done. GOOD RIDDANCE! Welcome the return of scouts as scouts and light assaults. I always used it as such and will continue to enjoy it. Is troll? No, is precloak FOTM DUST. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
VAHZZ 455	Posted - 2014.12.11 04:53:00 - [89] - Quote Yet us Scouts still thrive. My alliance is to no man, everyone burns all the same. ~ Proud Sniper Scout
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 601	Posted - 2014.12.11 07:12:00 - [90] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Yet us Scouts still thrive. ^ And cloaky-SG scouts still exist. That ak.0 with a Creodron in Ambush... Scouts' roles seem to shine in FW and objective-centric games now. Assaulting points and guarding unprotected/contested ones. The Scout C-1 with cmplx damp and SG is a good places to start, however cheap and scrubby. Public Announcement: Tell players to terminate in order to access MCRU's.



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