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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:30:00 -
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Heavy-Assault 514 it is.
BTW CCP-- thanks for handing over the scout role to the logistics. Great buff.
Chocolate Juice
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LudiKure ninda
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
172
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:32:00 -
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Finaly 
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SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1064
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:33:00 -
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Too early to tell anything with certainty, though I suspect you're incorrect. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:34:00 -
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*laughs to the point of coughing up blood*
The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
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Lloyd Orfay
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
263
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:34:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Heavy-Assault 514 it is.
BTW CCP-- thanks for handing over the scout role to the logistics. Great buff.
*Meanwhile, people are still stabbing and shotgunning as ever with their scout pigsuits*
There's nothing more frightening then an angry Shotty Galmando cnarging at you in the most tiniest CQC area.
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Robocop Junior
research lab
830
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:35:00 -
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Done, cause they killed the game months ago.
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6476
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:43:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Done, cause they killed the game months ago.
FotM chasers killed the game.
Whether it was Scouts or Slayer Logis.
Don't get yourself confused that it was the problem with a dedicated role.
Heavies will soon see the same problem. Hopefully we are moving towards a point where there is a viable role for all suit types.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
8711
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:44:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Bad Scouts are done
FTFY
You just gotta DAMP DAMP DAMP like crazy.
Cal Scout is pretty boned though. Even on the Min, I'm having real trouble making it with 2x Damps and cloak. I use my 3x damp shotgun fit fairly often now to allow me to get close enough.
I told everyone when the changes were posted. If you don't want Cal and Min scouts to have an insanely hard time dodging scans, they will need a damp bonus. 2-3 low slots is not enough.
Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman.
Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
Nobody messes with my family
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1277
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:47:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Heavy-Assault 514 it is.
BTW CCP-- thanks for handing over the scout role to the logistics. Great buff. *Meanwhile, people are still stabbing and shotgunning as ever with their scout pigsuits in the dust universe*
Aren't heavies killing with HMG's? Aren't assaults dominating with rifles? So why is it that scout shouldn't be able to kill?
Chocolate Juice
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1277
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:48:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Bad Scouts are done FTFY You just gotta DAMP DAMP DAMP like crazy. Cal Scout is pretty boned though. Even on the Min, I'm having real trouble making it with 2x Damps and cloak. I use my 3x damp shotgun fit fairly often now to allow me to get close enough. I told everyone when the changes were posted. If you don't want Cal and Min scouts to have an insanely hard time dodging scans, they will need a damp bonus. 2-3 low slots is not enough.
Scouts have to use all slots to damp so they can hide from Assaults and logis? Hmm, reminds me of pre 1.8.
Chocolate Juice
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1277
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:50:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Done, cause they killed the game months ago. FotM chasers killed the game. Whether it was Scouts or Slayer Logis. Don't get yourself confused that it was the problem with a dedicated role. Heavies will soon see the same problem. Hopefully we are moving towards a point where there is a viable role for all suit types.
You mean giving the role to assaults like always. You might as well just delete all suits other than assault/medium frames. They can tank, they can scan, they can be speedy, they can dampen. They can play the scout role better than the scout.
Chocolate Juice
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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
189
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:50:00 -
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I tried my scout and it was OK, but I tried it during only one game so I can't really tell yet.
I've warned though that the ridiculous short range precision would become a problem |
Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1277
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:50:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Too early to tell anything with certainty, though I suspect you're incorrect.
I haven't seen over 2 scouts in game for like 3 matches.
Chocolate Juice
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1277
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:53:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:I tried my scout and it was OK, but I tried it during only one game so I can't really tell yet.
I've warned though that the ridiculous short range precision would become a problem
at a competitive level they are ass.
Chocolate Juice
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1633
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:56:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Heavy-Assault 514 it is.
BTW CCP-- thanks for handing over the scout role to the logistics. Great buff.
scouts are done? i was being harassed and constantly scanned by 4 in the same match earlier......
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Valor Goat
64
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:56:00 -
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Cal scout is the only one that is pretty done now. You can still use it as combat scout and put high scores but it's just not worth it when you have assaults, which are better and way funnier to use.
Min scout will still be for hardcore players. On good hands, you can slay and ninja hack objectives with 100% efficiency.
Gal scout is still the best scout and EZ mode scout.
Amarr scout is the best scanning suit in the game period. If you put enough ranges on lows, you will be able to see EVERYTHING in the range of 10-15m (closer scan circle); though it's not worth it when you there is gallogi having good native eWAR, more HP, more slaying capabilities and them scanners.
Stop the QQ, scouts are overall still king of slaying if fitted and used properly. And you don't have to put a Breach AR to see it.
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1277
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Posted - 2014.12.09 23:01:00 -
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Valor Goat wrote:Cal scout is the only one that is pretty done now. You can still use it as combat scout and put high scores but it's just not worth it when you have assaults, which are better and way funnier to use.
Min scout will still be for hardcore players. In good hands, you can slay and ninja hack objectives with 100% efficiency.
Gal scout is still the best scout and EZ mode scout.
Amarr scout is the best scanning suit in the game period. If you put enough ranges on lows, you will be able to see EVERYTHING in the range of 10-15m (closer scan circle); though it's not worth it when you there is gallogi having good native eWAR, more HP, more slaying capabilities and them scanners.
Stop the QQ, scouts are overall still king of slaying if fitted and used properly. And you don't have to put a Breach AR to see it.
Not true, Amarr scout has no stealth, min scout can't even get close enough to knife people before being blown to bits. The only scout that is good in the gallante one which is still going strong with the shotgun. It has 4 lows and it has a dampening bonus which helps it be stealthy. The Min Scout could be stealthy but you have to sacrifice all your lows to profile damps just to get under an assault scanning which is really stupid in my opinion. Cal scout has no role.
Chocolate Juice
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Templar XIII
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.12.09 23:03:00 -
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Damn, you did not get the newest fit of the month? Scouts are so not en vogue anymore, now it is Minmatar Assault with kincats and...[Drums]...a cloaking module!!! Faster than a scout, strafe like the devil. Speed was always better than dampening: people may see you, but if you are too fast for them to react...the rest is self-explanatory. Simply respec and go all Minmatar Assault: latest FW rush to Minmatar already was the first sign of this development, now it has kinda grown up, and turns out to be one most ugly child. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2535
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Posted - 2014.12.09 23:07:00 -
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Scouts aren't done, but they have become MUCH harder.
I tend to agree with Templar XIII, above, in that the Min Assault is looking very tasty.... |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2610
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Posted - 2014.12.09 23:08:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Done, cause they killed the game months ago.
The Rouge wedding, so CCP actually saying they don't care about Dust anymore, apparently didn't kill the game. You can bet nothing will.
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Boot Booter
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
1050
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Posted - 2014.12.09 23:14:00 -
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I think they just over nerfed scan range modules |
Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1874
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Posted - 2014.12.09 23:52:00 -
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Praise God.
The horror! The horror!
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
499
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Posted - 2014.12.09 23:59:00 -
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Watch all the real scouts return to the game. The ones that know what a scout is supposed to do. Not those 1.8 FOTM scouts, but the real deal scouts. Can't wait to log on!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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neausea 1987
1.U.P
Capital Punishment.
170
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Posted - 2014.12.09 23:59:00 -
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scouts done lmao, never but i did notice that the game flow has changed the two weeks prior i was killing anything that moves but now it feels different so different in fact that i had to take my 20,000 sp and invest back in a scout fit. i started off as a min assualt but swithed to a scout because it could keep up with my brain as far as movment,reaction,and physical ability. i bought a skillbook reset and went full min assault two weeks ago and was loving it, but this morning as soon as the update was done i could'nt kill a thing so i got me a basic min scout ( 296 EHP) and now im back to basics and killing again scouts cant be nerfed they can only get better.
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
568
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:13:00 -
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No thay are not.
SG/NK scouts still terrorize in towns and outside points.
Ps. Why are people constantly telling that : gal,is ez mode, cal is done, minja is hardcore, amarr is [something]?
Minmatar scout only looses little portion of hp compared to other scouts while having great bonuses [hack/nk]. It also have its speed.
Minja - the one worth using.
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Markiplier fan.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6232
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:16:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Heavy-Assault 514 it is.
BTW CCP-- thanks for handing over the scout role to the logistics. Great buff. *Meanwhile, people are still stabbing and shotgunning as ever with their scout pigsuits in the dust universe*
The only true way to kill sentinels by the looks of it.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
1065
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:22:00 -
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I really, really hope this gets rid of the crap scounts. The skilled will see the light again and still keep wrecking face. I hope this is a change for the better...
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
335
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:28:00 -
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Blah blah blah
ADS are done for because they lowered the bonus for Pythons (I actually believe it to an extent with swarms)
Tankers are done for because they buffed installations
Logis are done for because something
Scouts are done for because now they don't know what direction people are facing (OH THE HORROR!!!!)
Heavies are done for because they nerfed/buffed the HMG
Rail Rifles are done for because they buffed to recoil (I have noticed a lot fewer rail rifles)
Assaults are never done for because few people use them to begin with (Still want a better Caldari Assault bonus)
Other then Assault suits what in this game isn't done for/ruining the game?
The State will always survive.
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
335
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:30:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Lloyd Orfay wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Heavy-Assault 514 it is.
BTW CCP-- thanks for handing over the scout role to the logistics. Great buff. *Meanwhile, people are still stabbing and shotgunning as ever with their scout pigsuits in the dust universe* The only true way to kill sentinels by the looks of it.
Have you tried a Forge Gun? Takes an insanely tanked out Sentinel to survive one.
The State will always survive.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15631
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:30:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Heavy-Assault 514 it is.
BTW CCP-- thanks for handing over the scout role to the logistics. Great buff.
You don't like having solid EWAR values, running at between 9-11 m/s, good biotics values, having the smallest hit box, 2 equipment slots, same ligh weapon fitting capacity ,and a bonus to visual cloak..... etc?
You want more that that?
You have mobility, equivalent DPS, essential invisibility, an essentially small sig radii......
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