The problem is the lack of communication between the pilot and the passenger. If you spawn in a random blueberry's dropship, you have no idea if he's going to take you where you want to go or anything. I'd personally spawn on a link and run to where I know I'm needed than in a random's dropship.

That said, even when I'm in a squad people rarely spawn in me or even call for me to pick them up. I feel like the standard DS is the most underutilized thing in Dust currently (that has the most potential).

I've been toying around with MCRUs again lately since they added WP to them and I've been amazed how adverse players seem to be towards either fielding or spawning in them. I've been toying with builds and think I've decided on Myrons for paratroopers and Methanas for quick land CRUs. Still trying to figure out the best configuration whether Madrugar or Gunnlogi for armored MCRUs although I'm leaning towards having both a mid range Gunnlogi with missiles or rail and a blaster Madrugar.

The paradropping lets you literally fly to all objectives on a map circling high in the sky to avoid most all AV and allows players to pick where they roughly want to land and yet I still don't get that many passengers. Not too mention you could load an entire squad into one and all drop on the same objective. It can't be any less safe then uplinks or CRUs given the amount of cloaking scouts these days so what gives?

I think it might be partially because that spawn point vanishes as soon as the driver gets out. No one wants to wait 9.99 seconds to spawn in, only to watch the point disappear from the map, leaving them to find another spawn point. Not to mention the fact that when you spawn in on a dropship and drop into the map, you're vulnerable after activating the inertia dampeners.

On a Shield HAV I would never consider it since it reduces my Primary Tank........though if I was doing something thematically like rolling a black ops/sunderer style vehicle yeah it could work....... issue with my HAV is I like small turrets for my squad and what MCRU idiots think I am doing is recruiting gunners.

Nope.....not you who spawned into my vehicle ass hole hat 20GJ is for Aero over there, or Thal, or Ceej.

I've been toying around with MCRUs again lately since they added WP to them and I've been amazed how adverse players seem to be towards either fielding or spawning in them. I've been toying with builds and think I've decided on Myrons for paratroopers and Methanas for quick land CRUs. Still trying to figure out the best configuration whether Madrugar or Gunnlogi for armored MCRUs although I'm leaning towards having both a mid range Gunnlogi with missiles or rail and a blaster Madrugar.

The paradropping lets you literally fly to all objectives on a map circling high in the sky to avoid most all AV and allows players to pick where they roughly want to land and yet I still don't get that many passengers. Not too mention you could load an entire squad into one and all drop on the same objective. It can't be any less safe then uplinks or CRUs given the amount of cloaking scouts these days so what gives?

1. The mcru vehicle could blow up the moment you spawn
2. For dropships, youre likely to have to inertia dampen your way out, which is suicidal
3. For ground vehicles, your location is made obvious to the enemy
4. Why would i trust a random blueberry with my safety when i cant even trust them not to shoot at the mcc?

You need to terminatd your clone for the mcru to appear on your map most ppl dont terminate their clone befpfe spawning.

I'm not a true tanker lol (Bare minimum invested into vehicles to get standard levels) so I don't mind losing a high slot as I can reallocate the PG/CPU to a low slot (I only use basic/militia slots.) I probably will have one front blaster on my gunnlogi rail and one front rail on my blaster maddie but I probably won't have any guns on the missile tank. The MCRU on tanks is mostly useful for maps where I shift my tanks slightly diagonal and approach the domination objective for maximum cover to nearby infantry. I generally have been experimenting with a high orbit dropship and MCRU tank when in a domination map and a low orbit dropship that circles all objectives or a LAV that follows the skirmish battle line.

The only issue you have with that is your blue dots...won't identify or understand what you are doing and will run off willy nilly to have their guts smeared across the ground.

One of the most enjoyable and memorable moments of my time as a tanker was when a couple of corpies got pinned down attacking an objective and couldn't take it. They couldn't run either as the site was crawling with reds in great spots.

I basically got to roll up under fire from a turret and a swarm launcher and slowly, punching all of my modules and praying to Amarrian God, roll out screening them from enemy fire.

So I assume you don't use uplinks or CRUs then as those could be hot/suicidal as well? I see why people would fear MCRUs over red line spawning absolutely but uplinks and CRUs are also risky as well. Especially now that we have shared scans so that more than likely the enemy team knows where all your spawns are near the objectives.

This game needs more moments like that in general. I used to think not having pub stompers around so much as so many quit would be a good thing but now... I don't understand what battle academy these blueberries went too but I shudder to think what's going on there. You must get huge points for not blowing yourself up with your own grenade in the battle academy these days... It's just painful how many matches I just get utterly screwed in because I do the typical thing of advancing to the objective/s and then suddenly realize my entire team is still in our red line. That's about 2 out of 3 games now. Not even getting proto stomped just getting owned by 16 MLT/STD suits all around me while my team picks its nose wandering around the map everywhere but the objective/s. I understand some are afk but a lot of them are just wondering around the map shooting at reds in the most pointless places.

I've been toying around with MCRUs again lately since they added WP to them and I've been amazed how adverse players seem to be towards either fielding or spawning in them. I've been toying with builds and think I've decided on Myrons for paratroopers and Methanas for quick land CRUs. Still trying to figure out the best configuration whether Madrugar or Gunnlogi for armored MCRUs although I'm leaning towards having both a mid range Gunnlogi with missiles or rail and a blaster Madrugar.

The paradropping lets you literally fly to all objectives on a map circling high in the sky to avoid most all AV and allows players to pick where they roughly want to land and yet I still don't get that many passengers. Not too mention you could load an entire squad into one and all drop on the same objective. It can't be any less safe then uplinks or CRUs given the amount of cloaking scouts these days so what gives?

Well, from my observation problem is lying in awareness of both sides.

1) Plot do not know when someone initiate spawn on his vehicle, what lead us to two options:
a) he can get out of it and then spawning countdown will be canceled.
b) he can be retrieving to redline for resupply or avoiding AV, with makes spawning on his vehicles pointless at the time.

2) If you are trying to spawn on vehicles, you have very low awareness on actions around vehicles:
a) you can spawn on vehicles that life cycles is at the end, and all you have left is to enjoy your 1-2 seconds before shutdown.
b) you have no idea where you gone end-up, at the middle of hot-zone, or maybe somewhere over enemy redline, there is no warranty that pilot will take you were you wanted to be before spawn.

Two and a half things would fix it: mic-chat across vehicles so you can talk with pilot, and Active MCRU so pilot can activate it when ever he think is safe(he should get iconic notification informing him that someone is initiate spawn, and he should be able to see countdown).

Uplinks and CRU's will have PASSIVE scan of 36db.

You know where you are going to spawn...

People don't fear MCRUs, it's just that there are two issues stopping (or discouraging) their use:

First, there is a glitch which prevents the spawn beacon on MCRUs from appearing until your clone is terminated. While this can be circumvented by terminating your clone, not many know that there is an MCRU on the friendly DS so they choose the most convent Drop Uplink.

The second, is the fact that their spawns are always 10s. Given how the best Uplink can be from anywhere between 3-5s most wouldn't bother using the MCRU as they need to spawn ASAP if they want to help hold/push an objective.

Advising pilots to hover still and high above objectives to avoid AV and to facilitate accurate deployment.

If they're taking evasive maneuvers (which can be observed from the map), then don't spawn on the MCRU if you need to spawn on the objective.

I foresee effective use in FW.

because most people are flying trash they probably dont want to spawn into a burning ship

On a more fundamental psychological level I imagine its because it requires AVer to reduce their potential efficiency and rely on Infantry....... the very same people who literally show vehicle users a great amount of disdain and disregard......

I've been toying around with MCRUs again lately since they added WP to them and I've been amazed how adverse players seem to be towards either fielding or spawning in them. I've been toying with builds and think I've decided on Myrons for paratroopers and Methanas for quick land CRUs. Still trying to figure out the best configuration whether Madrugar or Gunnlogi for armored MCRUs although I'm leaning towards having both a mid range Gunnlogi with missiles or rail and a blaster Madrugar.

The paradropping lets you literally fly to all objectives on a map circling high in the sky to avoid most all AV and allows players to pick where they roughly want to land and yet I still don't get that many passengers. Not too mention you could load an entire squad into one and all drop on the same objective. It can't be any less safe then uplinks or CRUs given the amount of cloaking scouts these days so what gives?