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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 
 2280
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:43:00 -
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 Is this possible, if so, how?
 
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        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 3678
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:44:00 -
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 Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means?
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
 19725
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:46:00 -
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 Who disagreed with you this time?
 
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        |  Mortishai Belmont
 G.L.O.R.Y
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 250
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:46:00 -
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 I just wish for a CMP that's not a damned scout lover making sweet advances onto to that shotgun and remote down by the fireplace >.>
 
 G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout- | 
      
      
        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 3678
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:48:00 -
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 Mortishai Belmont wrote:I just wish for a CMP that's not a damned scout lover making sweet advances onto to that shotgun and remote down by the fireplace >.> 
 Cross Atu is more of a "Take your Repair tool out to dinner then give it a nice polish with a glass of Quafe by the fireplace"
 
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
 19726
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:49:00 -
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 Mortishai Belmont wrote:I just wish for a CMP that's not a damned scout lover making sweet advances onto to that shotgun and remote down by the fireplace >.> 
 There is at least one CPM who the scout supremacists would like to lynch. Will he do?
 
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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 
 2280
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:50:00 -
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 Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do.
 
 @Arkena
 Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them.
 
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        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 3678
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:51:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. 
 Oh ok, so what law did a CPM break that merits impeachment? Hell I didn't even know we had laws in Dust, but **** I'll roll with it. Do we even have trials in a gaming community?
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
 19726
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:52:00 -
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 Open a ticket.
 
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        |  Mortishai Belmont
 G.L.O.R.Y
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 250
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:52:00 -
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 Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:I just wish for a CMP that's not a damned scout lover making sweet advances onto to that shotgun and remote down by the fireplace >.> There is at least one CPM who the scout supremacists would like to lynch. Will he do? 
 Sadly I don't any of it will help in the end, is there such a thing as an unbiased dust player? CMP's shouldn't be a thing yo, all of CCP should play their own damn game every day :c
 
 G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout- | 
      
      
        |  Mortishai Belmont
 G.L.O.R.Y
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 250
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:53:00 -
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 Pokey Dravon wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. Oh ok, so what law did a CPM break that merits impeachment? Hell I didn't even know we had laws in Dust, but **** I'll roll with it. Do we even have trials in a gaming community? 
 Hey, it is forbidden to commit suicide in public areas <3
 
 G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout- | 
      
      
        |  DUST Fiend
 Onslaught Inc
 RISE of LEGION
 
 15339
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:55:00 -
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 Id rather do away with the whole thing, its a sham at best and a hindrance at worst. They offer nothing of tangible value and do little but distract the tiny dev team. DUST is nothing to EVE and cannot reasonably justify a player council "elected" by an incredibly tiny pool of mostly uninformed and ignorant voters
 
 Bad idea is bad
 
 Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube WoD 514 | 
      
      
        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 3678
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:55:00 -
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 Mortishai Belmont wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. Oh ok, so what law did a CPM break that merits impeachment? Hell I didn't even know we had laws in Dust, but **** I'll roll with it. Do we even have trials in a gaming community? Hey, it is forbidden to commit suicide in public areas <3 
 That's true. So if the CPM have been publicly killing themselves then we can impeach them and put them on trial. This is reasonable.
 
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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 
 2280
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:55:00 -
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 Pokey Dravon wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. Oh ok, so what law did a CPM break that merits impeachment? Hell I didn't even know we had laws in Dust, but **** I'll roll with it. Do we even have trials in a gaming community? I've witnessed (on several occasions no less) at least one CPM member flagrantly disregard at least one of the Forum Rules (sometimes multiple infractions within the same post).
 
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        |  Patrick57
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 9463
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 21:58:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. Oh ok, so what law did a CPM break that merits impeachment? Hell I didn't even know we had laws in Dust, but **** I'll roll with it. Do we even have trials in a gaming community? I've witnessed (on several occasions no less) at least one CPM member flagrantly disregard at least one of the Forum Rules  (sometimes multiple infractions within the same post). dude if the forum rules were enforced at all then most of the people here would be banned in an instant
 
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        |  Ripley Riley
 Incorruptibles
 
 5209
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:01:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:Oh c'mon... really?I've witnessed (on several occasions no less) at least one CPM member flagrantly disregard at least one of the Forum Rules  (sometimes multiple infractions within the same post). 
 Click the 'Report' button on that post and CCP will get to it whenever. Chances are they will get a slap on the wrist. Forum misconduct, unless blatant racism, sexism, breaching the NDA, etc., are not grounds for impeachment.
 
 
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        |  Apothecary Za'ki
 Biomass Positive
 
 2228
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:01:00 -
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 Pokey Dravon wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:I just wish for a CMP that's not a damned scout lover making sweet advances onto to that shotgun and remote down by the fireplace >.> Cross Atu is more of a "Take your Repair tool out to dinner then give it a nice polish with a glass of Quafe by the fireplace" the reptool is fine. because it leaves the logi vulnerable from being ganked frombehind or RE traps or massdriver spam.. learn how to counter it noob
 
 #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] | 
      
      
        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 3681
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:01:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. Oh ok, so what law did a CPM break that merits impeachment? Hell I didn't even know we had laws in Dust, but **** I'll roll with it. Do we even have trials in a gaming community? I've witnessed (on several occasions no less) at least one CPM member flagrantly disregard at least one of the Forum Rules  (sometimes multiple infractions within the same post). 
 Well Ok, since you know what impeachment means, then write up a well documented post with examples of the misconduct and properly quoted passages from the forum rules to illustrate what they've done wrong. Then you will have impeached that member of the CPM. I'm just glad you don't think 'impeachment' means 'to remove from office', so many people get confused about that.
 
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        |  Apothecary Za'ki
 Biomass Positive
 
 2228
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:02:00 -
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 Ripley Riley wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:I've witnessed (on several occasions no less) at least one CPM member flagrantly disregard at least one of the Forum Rules  (sometimes multiple infractions within the same post). Oh c'mon... really? Click the 'Report' button on that post and CCP will get to it whenever. Chances are they will get a slap on the wrist. Forum misconduct, unless blatant racism, sexism, breaching the NDA, etc., are not grounds for impeachment.  most of the CPM are MIA
 
 #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] | 
      
      
        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
 19727
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:03:00 -
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 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:I've witnessed (on several occasions no less) at least one CPM member flagrantly disregard at least one of the Forum Rules  (sometimes multiple infractions within the same post). Oh c'mon... really? Click the 'Report' button on that post and CCP will get to it whenever. Chances are they will get a slap on the wrist. Forum misconduct, unless blatant racism, sexism, breaching the NDA, etc., are not grounds for impeachment.  most of the CPM are MIA 
 To my knowledge, only Judge is.
 
 I have spoken with the rest of them recently. They are not necessarily the most prolific forum posters, but they are still active in game circles.
 
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        |  Mortishai Belmont
 G.L.O.R.Y
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 250
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:04:00 -
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 Pokey Dravon wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. Oh ok, so what law did a CPM break that merits impeachment? Hell I didn't even know we had laws in Dust, but **** I'll roll with it. Do we even have trials in a gaming community? Hey, it is forbidden to commit suicide in public areas <3 That's true. So if the CPM have been publicly killing themselves then we can impeach them and put them on trial. This is reasonable. 
 Hey, the good news is that it'll probably succeed with minimal resistance :D
 
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        |  Immortal John Ripper
 
 26125
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:04:00 -
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 Get rid of judge.
 
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        |  Ripley Riley
 Incorruptibles
 
 5209
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:04:00 -
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 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:most of the CPM are MIA Cross Atu - posts regularly on the forums
 Kevall Longstride - posts regularly on the forums
 Zatara Rought - posts regularly on the forums
 SirManBoy - No idea
 Soraya Xel - posts regularly on the forums
 Judge Rhadamanthus - MIA because he can't achieve a 50 K/D anymore
 Iron Wolf Saber - posts regularly on the forums
 
 That's 5 out of 7 CPM1 officers.
 
 A couple of them have active player feedback threads as we speak.
 
 I think you aren't paying close enough attention to their activity. Search tab > check the CPM box > Search
 
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        |  General John Ripper
 
 26125
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:04:00 -
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 Get rid of judge.
 
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        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 3681
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:05:00 -
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 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:I just wish for a CMP that's not a damned scout lover making sweet advances onto to that shotgun and remote down by the fireplace >.> Cross Atu is more of a "Take your Repair tool out to dinner then give it a nice polish with a glass of Quafe by the fireplace" the reptool is fine. because it leaves the logi vulnerable from being ganked frombehind or RE traps or massdriver spam.. learn how to counter it noob 
 Erm.....wha? What are you even talking about? I never said the Rep tool was broken, I said that Cross Atu likes the rep tool. lol defensive much bro?
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
 19727
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:06:00 -
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 Ripley Riley wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:most of the CPM are MIA Cross Atu - posts regularly on the forums Kevall Longstride - posts regularly on the forums Zatara Rought - posts regularly on the forums SirManBoy - No idea Soraya Xel - posts regularly on the forums Judge Rhadamanthus - MIA because he can't achieve a 50 K/D anymore Iron Wolf Saber - posts regularly on the forums That's 5 out of 7 CPM1 officers. A couple of them have active player feedback threads as we speak. I think you aren't paying close enough attention to their activity. Search tab > check the CPM box > Search 
 I have spoken with SMB, so I would assume he's active as well.
 
 
 Pokey Dravon wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:
 Cross Atu is more of a "Take your Repair tool out to dinner then give it a nice polish with a glass of Quafe by the fireplace"
 
 the reptool is fine. because it leaves the logi vulnerable from being ganked frombehind or RE traps or massdriver spam.. learn how to counter it noob Erm.....wha? What are you even talking about? I never said the Rep tool was broken, I said that Cross Atu likes the rep tool. lol defensive much bro? 
 Za'ki is possibly one of the most inane posters on the forum. Ignore him.
 
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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 
 2280
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:08:00 -
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 Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Open a ticket. Thanks for an actual answer.
 
 @Patrick57
 I have personally been smacked for disregarding the Forum Rules and I know of several others who have been as well.
 
 They are enforced, though nowhere near uniformly.
 
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        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 3682
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:10:00 -
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 SirManBoy is actually active, I speak with him from time to time on Skype and on the Biomassed Podcast. I do wish he was more vocal on the forums though.
 
 As for Judge....**** if I know, dude popped in to ***** about the ADS change then went MIA from what I can see.
 
 Everyone else I see around. Cross, Iron Wolf, and Soraya seem to post the most in the areas of the forums I frequent. I do see Zatara and Fleetfoot around as well, but they're likely posting more in areas I dont tend to look at.
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 17915
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:12:00 -
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 There are several dozen conditions where a CPM member can be removed from office.
 
 However each condition is taken on a case by case basis.
 
 A clear breach of NDA would be once such condition where it would be a guaranteed removal without question just about.
 
 More reasons for removals would be things similar to bring about a permanent ban for any normal player; such as threatening a person in real life; RMTing; cheating; modifying the game for one's own gains.
 
 Thirdly is harming ccp to community relationships or vice versa or destroying relationships as CPM with CCP.
 
 You cannot impeach a CPM member on the grounds of game play changes unfortunately for the lot of you; so good luck with that.
 
 As for a formal process there is none but acting like chicken little in protest is not the way to go about it. Approach the case like a lawyer not a protester you're more likely to get the CPM member yelled at in that case.
 
 If you are not willing to go that far you can complain to the other members of the CPM; peer pressure is a tool the council uses to balance itself out and make aware to that member he/she is doing something unacceptable.
 
 Also as Patrick said if the rules were more strictly enforced more of the forum warriors would be banned than usual.
 
 
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 17915
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:16:00 -
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 Mortishai Belmont wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Why yes, yes I do.
 
 @Arkena
 Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them.
 Oh ok, so what law did a CPM break that merits impeachment? Hell I didn't even know we had laws in Dust, but **** I'll roll with it. Do we even have trials in a gaming community? Hey, it is forbidden to commit suicide in public areas <3 
 That's true. So if the CPM have been publicly killing themselves then we can impeach them and put them on trial. This is reasonable.[/quote]
 
 Hey, the good news is that it'll probably succeed with minimal resistance :D [/quote]
 
 Hey now I was trying to reproduce that RE Glitch.
 
 CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked | 
      
      
        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 3682
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:18:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hey now I was trying to reproduce that RE Glitch.
 
 Seems legit. Prosecution drops all charges.
 
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 17915
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:18:00 -
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 Pokey Dravon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hey now I was trying to reproduce that RE Glitch.
 Seems legit. Prosecution drops all charges.  
 Either way there is a reason why there are no more complaints about the 'RE glitch' and had nothing to do with a glitch at all.
 
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        |  Immortal John Ripper
 
 26127
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:21:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hey now I was trying to reproduce that RE Glitch.
 Seems legit. Prosecution drops all charges.  Either way there is a reason why there are no more complaints about the 'RE glitch' and had nothing to do with a glitch at all.  
 LOL
 
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        |  General John Ripper
 
 26141
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:21:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hey now I was trying to reproduce that RE Glitch.
 Seems legit. Prosecution drops all charges.  Either way there is a reason why there are no more complaints about the 'RE glitch' and had nothing to do with a glitch at all.  
 LOL
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 17915
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:24:00 -
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 Immortal John Ripper wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hey now I was trying to reproduce that RE Glitch.
 Seems legit. Prosecution drops all charges.  Either way there is a reason why there are no more complaints about the 'RE glitch' and had nothing to do with a glitch at all.  LOL 
 Well panic induction + fear mongering + good troll = lots of time wasted on my end.
 
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        |  Immortal John Ripper
 
 26127
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:27:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hey now I was trying to reproduce that RE Glitch.
 Seems legit. Prosecution drops all charges.  Either way there is a reason why there are no more complaints about the 'RE glitch' and had nothing to do with a glitch at all.  LOL Well panic induction + fear mongering + good troll = lots of time wasted on my end.  You should have asked me. You have my skype.
 
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        |  General John Ripper
 
 26141
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:27:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hey now I was trying to reproduce that RE Glitch.
 Seems legit. Prosecution drops all charges.  Either way there is a reason why there are no more complaints about the 'RE glitch' and had nothing to do with a glitch at all.  LOL Well panic induction + fear mongering + good troll = lots of time wasted on my end.  You should have asked me. You have my skype.
 
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        |  Leither Yiltron
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1020
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:54:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:Is this possible, if so, how? 
 You ask dark, dangerous questions. Few can bear the knowledge of these black arts and retain their sanity. Fewer still can successfully complete the necessary rites.
 
 If you still wish to know, read on. For the safety of all on this planet- nay, say the safety of all entities that ever were or could ever be, the signs must be hidden and doled piece meal lest they combine and congeal to tear apart the very fabric of our reality.
 
 
 
 
  Delete and reinstall Dust 514 times from your PlayStation 3. This must be done without sleep, or pause, and cannot be stopped once started. Your life will hang in balance to your devotion. 
 Send me all your ISK. 
 
 
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        |  hfderrtgvcd
 
 1407
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 22:58:00 -
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 SirManBoy doesn't post a lot at all but he plays the game a **** ton.
 
 You can't fight in here! This is the war room. | 
      
      
        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 17917
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.01 23:11:00 -
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 Immortal John Ripper wrote:You should have asked me. You have my skype.
 
 CCP wanted trusted verification or video while they investigated themselves. No offense to the community but some things are best seen rather than talked about.
 
 
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 5352
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.02 00:33:00 -
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 Immortal John Ripper wrote:Get rid of judge.  
 Who?
 
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        |  Soraya Xel
 Abandoned Privilege
 Top Men.
 
 4889
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.02 01:38:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:Id rather do away with the whole thing, its a sham at best and a hindrance at worst. They offer nothing of tangible value and do little but distract the tiny dev team. DUST is nothing to EVE and cannot reasonably justify a player council "elected" by an incredibly tiny pool of mostly uninformed and ignorant voters 
 You have no idea how much CPM0 and CPM1 have done for this game. The bad ideas that have never come to pass...
 
 
 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:most of the CPM are MIA 
 Six of us attend almost every meeting with occasional allowances for people having "real lives". Even when said meetings are at unholy hours.
 
 CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback. | 
      
      
        |  Imp Smash
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 444
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.02 01:43:00 -
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 EDIT: Redacted. IWS explained it.
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        |  sir RAVEN WING
 Horizons' Edge
 Proficiency V.
 
 1092
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.12.02 01:48:00 -
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 Patrick57 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. Oh ok, so what law did a CPM break that merits impeachment? Hell I didn't even know we had laws in Dust, but **** I'll roll with it. Do we even have trials in a gaming community? I've witnessed (on several occasions no less) at least one CPM member flagrantly disregard at least one of the Forum Rules  (sometimes multiple infractions within the same post). dude if the forum rules were enforced at all then most of the people here would be banned in an instant  I got reported by a guy (who did this on his own thread.) because he hated RR users and called me a '******** manwhore just like every other RR user'
 
 His parents must've hated him...
 Just because I bumped in GD... I necro threads all the time, but I get reported only because I said the charge time on the RR needs reducing? BTW has it been decreased yet?
 
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        |  Zatara Rought
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
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 Pokey Dravon wrote:SirManBoy is actually active, I speak with him from time to time on Skype and on the Biomassed Podcast. I do wish he was more vocal on the forums though.
 As for Judge....**** if I know, dude popped in to ***** about the ADS change then went MIA from what I can see.
 
 Everyone else I see around. Cross, Iron Wolf, and Soraya seem to post the most in the areas of the forums I frequent. I do see Zatara and Fleetfoot around as well, but they're likely posting more in areas I dont tend to look at.
 
 I'm always around.
 
 http://dustsearch.com/stats/zatara%20rought
 
 I often get blinders though and focus on a few choice threads.
 
 Ex: I was intimately close with all RR threads for about a week after the RR charge time got nerfed. Then it got put from .6 to .45 and I see less QQ threads popping up.
  
 I've been all over the concentric circles idea thread in Feedback today.
 
 
 
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        |  Cat Merc
 Onslaught Inc
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There are several dozen conditions where a CPM member can be removed from office.
 However each condition is taken on a case by case basis.
 
 A clear breach of NDA would be once such condition where it would be a guaranteed removal without question just about.
 
 More reasons for removals would be things similar to bring about a permanent ban for any normal player; such as threatening a person in real life; RMTing; cheating; modifying the game for one's own gains.
 
 Thirdly is harming ccp to community relationships or vice versa or destroying relationships as CPM with CCP.
 
 You cannot impeach a CPM member on the grounds of game play changes unfortunately for the lot of you; so good luck with that.
 
 As for a formal process there is none but acting like chicken little in protest is not the way to go about it. Approach the case like a lawyer not a protester you're more likely to get the CPM member yelled at in that case.
 
 If you are not willing to go that far you can complain to the other members of the CPM; peer pressure is a tool the council uses to balance itself out and make aware to that member he/she is doing something unacceptable. This was exercised in CPM 0 to great extent on myself.
 
 Also as Patrick said if the rules were more strictly enforced more of the forum warriors would be banned than usual.
 To be fair you could be banned on the forums for helping an old lady cross the street and feeding a small kitten.
 
 There are rules for EVERYTHING, seriously just look at them XD
 
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        |  CCP Rattati
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 The CPM is incredibly active, hard working and for the lack of a better word, useful for DUST 514 development. I speak with them literally every day, meet with them on video at least twice a month, and we trade emails about specific topics daily, many of which are collections of feedback from forum threads, CPM threads, direct corporation feedback and experience.
 
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        |  Xocoyol Zaraoul
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      | Posted - 2014.12.02 08:08:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:The CPM is incredibly active, hard working and for the lack of a better word, useful for DUST 514 development. I speak with them literally every day, meet with them on video at least twice a month, and we trade emails about specific topics daily, many of which are collections of feedback from forum threads, CPM threads, direct corporation feedback and experience. 
 Does this include Judge?
 
 I'm rather disappointed, as I did vote for Judge but he went completely silent after elections. From the vantage point of the community he is completely inactive in DUST and wasting a spot.
 
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        |  Viktor Hadah Jr
 Negative-Impact
 
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      | Posted - 2014.12.02 09:23:00 -
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 I don't like how easy it is to get into the CPM and although things like CCP saying they talk to the CPM on a daily bases does not comfort me. someone who got 100 people to vote for him has an inside on info before tens of thousands of people do...
 
 Having to only garnish the trust of 100 people in order to gain a inside track to what is coming up next in the game is not hard. It's not that i believe the CPM is corrupt i just don't like that their is practically no barrier to keep someone corrupt from joining the CPM. 100 votes to get into the CPM, i could submit a blank application with my name on it then go talk to a few alliance leaders i know have them send out an alliance mail saying they support me and everyone should vote for me because of reasons. Over exaggerating a bit of course but point being. the amount of people who voted is not comparable to the information CPM is getting from CCP.
 
 This is not making a comment on the individual CPM members themselves but more on the election process of the CPM.
 
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        |  Apothecary Za'ki
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:Is this possible, if so, how? about 16 of them have been MIA / AWOL for as long as they have been a CPM. they need removing from power cause it was just nothing mroe then +ego and +epeen to them
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
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 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Is this possible, if so, how? about 16 of them have been MIA / AWOL for as long as they have been a CPM. they need removing from power cause it was just nothing mroe then +ego and +epeen to them 
 16?
 
 /me looks around
 
 I never knew we had that many elected in the history of the council combined!!!
 
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        |  Apothecary Za'ki
 Biomass Positive
 
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Is this possible, if so, how? about 16 of them have been MIA / AWOL for as long as they have been a CPM. they need removing from power cause it was just nothing mroe then +ego and +epeen to them 16? /me looks around I never knew we had that many elected in the history of the council combined!!! some one posted the full list there was like 20 and all i see if you, cross, xorya and i think one more person.. thats it.. the 4 of you is all i ever see
 
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        |  Apothecary Za'ki
 Biomass Positive
 
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      | Posted - 2014.12.02 10:03:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:The CPM is incredibly active, hard working and for the lack of a better word, useful for DUST 514 development. I speak with them literally every day, meet with them on video at least twice a month, and we trade emails about specific topics daily, many of which are collections of feedback from forum threads, CPM threads, direct corporation feedback and experience. why does it seem that most of them are AWOL then? the only oens who we regularly see are cross, xorya, iron wolf sabre and i forget the 4th who are ACTUALLY ACTIVE
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
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 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Is this possible, if so, how? about 16 of them have been MIA / AWOL for as long as they have been a CPM. they need removing from power cause it was just nothing mroe then +ego and +epeen to them 16? /me looks around I never knew we had that many elected in the history of the council combined!!! some one posted the full list there was like 20 and all i see if you, cross, xorya and i think one more person.. thats it.. the 4 of you is all i ever see THIS list http://dust514.com/community/cpm/candidates/ and all iv ever seen was iron wolf sabre, sorya, judge and cross out of the 20 total CPM people.. so yeah Rattatti is only accounting for the workload of 4 CPM who probably work 3x harder then a single person. 
 This post is so ignorant it beggars belief.
 
 That is a list of CANDIDATES. Not of CPM members.
 
 Of the CPM members, I highly doubt you have actually seen Judge active, so I suppose your ideas about who is active are all rubbish. I have seen all the CPM members posting in the past week bar SMB, who is not a forum warrior and who I have spoken to, and Judge. I will concede that Judge is a disappointment, but your claim that 3/20 people are active when it is actually 6/7 is absurd.
 
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        |  Lorhak Gannarsein
 Legio DXIV
 
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 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:The CPM is incredibly active, hard working and for the lack of a better word, useful for DUST 514 development. I speak with them literally every day, meet with them on video at least twice a month, and we trade emails about specific topics daily, many of which are collections of feedback from forum threads, CPM threads, direct corporation feedback and experience. why does it seem that most of them are AWOL then? the only oens who we regularly see are cross, xorya, iron wolf sabre and i forget the 4th who are ACTUALLY ACTIVE oh my god you are as dumb as a brick.
 
 
 i take that back, unlike you, some bricks might have recordable intelligence.
 
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        |  FIRST TESTDUMMY
 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
 Caldari State
 
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 Great, another example of Apothecary Za'ki being an idiot. My list of stupid posts is forever growing. Thanks Za'ki.
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        |  Nothing Certain
 Bioshock Rejects
 
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      | Posted - 2014.12.02 10:32:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Is this possible, if so, how? about 16 of them have been MIA / AWOL for as long as they have been a CPM. they need removing from power cause it was just nothing mroe then +ego and +epeen to them 16? /me looks around I never knew we had that many elected in the history of the council combined!!! 
 C'mon, you each have at least 2 or 3 Alts. Some posters could be 16 all by themselves.
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
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 Nothing Certain wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Is this possible, if so, how? about 16 of them have been MIA / AWOL for as long as they have been a CPM. they need removing from power cause it was just nothing mroe then +ego and +epeen to them 16? /me looks around I never knew we had that many elected in the history of the council combined!!! C'mon, you each have at least 2 or 3 Alts. Some posters could be 16 all by themselves. 
 But everyone knows that I am Nova Knife's Alt who just happens to be Kane's alt.
 
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        |  Juno Tristan
 Obscure Reference
 
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 Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:THIS list http://dust514.com/community/cpm/candidates/ and all iv ever seen was iron wolf sabre, sorya, judge and cross out of the 20 total CPM people.. so yeah Rattatti is only accounting for the workload of 4 CPM who probably work 3x harder then a single person. This post is so ignorant it beggars belief. That is a list of CANDIDATES. Not of CPM members. Of the CPM members, I highly doubt you have actually seen Judge active, so I suppose your ideas about who is active are all rubbish. I have seen all the CPM members posting in the past week bar SMB, who is not a forum warrior and who I have spoken to, and Judge. I will concede that Judge is a disappointment, but your claim that 3/20 people are active when it is actually 6/7 is absurd. 
 My favorite part is it even says candidates on his link
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        |  Apothecary Za'ki
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Is this possible, if so, how? about 16 of them have been MIA / AWOL for as long as they have been a CPM. they need removing from power cause it was just nothing mroe then +ego and +epeen to them 16? /me looks around I never knew we had that many elected in the history of the council combined!!! C'mon, you each have at least 2 or 3 Alts. Some posters could be 16 all by themselves. But everyone knows that I am Nova Knife's Alt who just happens to be Kane's alt.  as a cpm you shouldnt be useing alts to **** post or hide.
 
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        |  Immortal John Ripper
 
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 Anarchide would have been a better choice than judge.
 
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        |  Lazer Fo Cused
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
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 1. You cannot impeach anyone it seems because it would have happened with CPM0 at least on 4 different members
 
 2. CPM0 had a large amount of controversy and just outright lies and failures, CPM1 is trying its best to carry on this tradition but CPM0 set a high bar so impeachments would be happening quite a bit that there wouldnt be much of a CPM left
 
 
 CCP Rattati wrote:The CPM is incredibly active, hard working and for the lack of a better word, useful for DUST 514 development. I speak with them literally every day, meet with them on video at least twice a month, and we trade emails about specific topics daily, many of which are collections of feedback from forum threads, CPM threads, direct corporation feedback and experience. 
 1. This has nothing to do with the question
 
 2. CPM Judge has fallen off the map and moved to Destiny and since you were able to put in the ADS nerf on a whim since it was your decision and yours alone i doubt you were talking to judge the supposedly 'pilot' (i use that term very very loosly with judge) of the group, most likely it was xel who wants COD in space
 
 3. Every CCP dev have said what you have said at some point, but to the community its just false and no one really believes it anymore since actions speak louder than words
 
 4. If you really want to see what the community thinks of the CPM put in the option for the next CPM elections to vote to scrap the CPM and chuck it in the bin, since less than 1% voted in CPM1 i wouldnt be suprised if ppl voted to get rid of the CPM
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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 
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 CCP Rattati wrote:The CPM is incredibly active, hard working and for the lack of a better word, useful for DUST 514 development. I speak with them literally every day, meet with them on video at least twice a month, and we trade emails about specific topics daily, many of which are collections of feedback from forum threads, CPM threads, direct corporation feedback and experience. Wow, so I start a topic that garners widespread support throughout the community (though is obsolesced by at that time NDA breaching info) and I get no blue tag......
 
 Bring up impeaching a CPM and I get a blue tag?
 
 I should bring up impeaching CPMs more often.
  
 In actual response, I am not denying the "usefulness" of having them as information gatherers (seven people actively gathering info > one person actively gathering info or even just passively listening to the throng for that matter).
 
 However, I wonder if allowing them to behave against the forum rules benefits CCP in the eyes of the community at large (rather than the eyes of those who'd like what their CPM says no matter what because ::party line::).
 
 Beyond that, I am curious why it is allowed to occur with regularity where if a non-CPM member did the same things, they'd receive forum bans of increasing severity (which would serve to drag out the infractions due to the gag of forum ban instead of allowing them to go on unchecked for pages at a time in threads). I would imagine that the CPM would be held to the same standards as any other member of the community (if not stricter standards) since they are still members of the community they were selected by. IMHO, they'd serve as a better (and more public) example of "break the rules and this is what happens" since they are more widely known than the rest of us lowly plebeians.
 
 In closing, being a CPM shouldn't be seen as carte blanche for bad behavior, in fact, they should be even more heavily scrutinized than your average forumites.
 
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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 
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 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:as a cpm you shouldnt be useing alts to **** post or hide.
 On the contrary, if CPM members are going to be shitposting, I'd hope they'd be doing it on alts rather than with the endorsement of a white tag next to it....
 
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 Havok Dynasty
 
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. 
 Being impeached does not equal removing from office. Being impeached is essentially an official indictment. Basically, it's a not a punishment. You still have to be convicted to be removed from office. The conviction, not the impeachment, is the punishment. So no, I also don't think you know what this word means.
 
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 
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 Another example of just how stupid the DUST 514 player base can be.
 
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        |  CommanderBolt
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 Sgt Kirk wrote:Another example of just how stupid the DUST 514 player base can be.  
 I sometimes wonder why I read these forums.
 
 For ever well thought out post or engaging discussion there are at least triple that in random bollocks and people who literally do not even have the first clue what they are talking about. I will give you one guess as to who that might be in this thread
  
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        |  Moorian Flav
 
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 As what happens between the CPMs and CCP (at least for the most part) is not shared common knowledge, most players are left to make assumptions about what's going on. Some of those making assumptions go off what little actual info they find while others appear to make assumptions off of hearsay/rumors. While I think one is definitely better than the other, it basically has the same baseless results due to (again) not truly knowing what is going on between the CPMs and CCP.
 In short, the CPMs voted for are who we are going to have (/be stuck with) for the cycle. The only way I see a CPM could be plausibly removed is via CCP and/or CPM majority as there is no way for the overall playerbase to prove their accusations (due to lack of data/facts).
 In very short, you might as well stop your complaining about the CPMs themselves and just focus on providing feedback for the game itself.
 
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        |  Soraya Xel
 Abandoned Privilege
 Top Men.
 
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 A lot of what we've been working on just became public. :)
 
 http://dust514.com/news/2014/12/uprising-1.10-overview-patch-notes/
 
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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 
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 Forlorn Destrier wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. Being impeached does not equal removing from office. Being impeached is essentially an official indictment. Basically, it's a not a punishment. You still have to be convicted to be removed from office. The conviction, not the impeachment, is the punishment. So no, I also don't think you know what this word means. Regardless of previous misconceptions (which seems to be more widespread than you'd first realize), I do now and did at the time of my quoted post know what the word impeach means.
 
 Since we have no forum trial system available to us (at least that I am aware of), should I assume that self-evident behavior proves enough for a conviction on its own? Will CCP be enforcing a removal from office or will the offending CPM member(s) simply step down of their own accord?
 
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        |  Moorian Flav
 
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 Quote:Since we have no forum trial system available to us (at least that I am aware of), should I assume that self-evident behavior proves enough for a conviction on its own?  We've had CPM forum trolls in the past but that never prompted a removal that I know of. If you do not like how a CPM is behaving on the forums, report them or send in a ticket referencing their trolling posts. If CCP gets enough reports/complaints, they'll likely will do something about it. If your feelings alone are hurt though (where likely no one else cares), you're pretty much SOL.
 
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        |  Anarchide
 Greedy Bastards
 
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 The Conspiracy is alive, again!!
 
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        |  One Eyed King
 Land of the BIind
 
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 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
 But everyone knows that I am Nova Knife's Alt who just happens to be Kane's alt.
 as a cpm you shouldnt be useing alts to **** post or hide. This post confirms so many things I have thought you to be.
 
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        |  Soraya Xel
 Abandoned Privilege
 Top Men.
 
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 Moorian Flav wrote:We've had CPM forum trolls in the past but that never prompted a removal that I know of. If you do not like how a CPM is behaving on the forums, report them or send in a ticket referencing their trolling posts. If CCP gets enough reports/complaints, they'll likely will do something about it. If your feelings alone are hurt though (where likely no one else cares), you're pretty much SOL. 
 CPM can indeed get banned and crud. The report button is indeed the proper way to handle pet peeves of excessive trolling.
 
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        |  Immortal John Ripper
 
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 Soraya Xel wrote:Moorian Flav wrote:We've had CPM forum trolls in the past but that never prompted a removal that I know of. If you do not like how a CPM is behaving on the forums, report them or send in a ticket referencing their trolling posts. If CCP gets enough reports/complaints, they'll likely will do something about it. If your feelings alone are hurt though (where likely no one else cares), you're pretty much SOL. CPM can indeed get banned and crud. The report button is indeed the proper way to handle pet peeves of excessive trolling. I am going to be watching all of you CPM and test this theory. No one shall hide from my justice.
 
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        |  General John Ripper
 
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 Soraya Xel wrote:Moorian Flav wrote:We've had CPM forum trolls in the past but that never prompted a removal that I know of. If you do not like how a CPM is behaving on the forums, report them or send in a ticket referencing their trolling posts. If CCP gets enough reports/complaints, they'll likely will do something about it. If your feelings alone are hurt though (where likely no one else cares), you're pretty much SOL. CPM can indeed get banned and crud. The report button is indeed the proper way to handle pet peeves of excessive trolling. I am going to be watching all of you CPM and test this theory. No one shall hide from my justice.
 
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        |  TYCHUS MAXWELL
 The Fun Police
 
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 DUST Fiend wrote:Id rather do away with the whole thing, its a sham at best and a hindrance at worst. They offer nothing of tangible value and do little but distract the tiny dev team. DUST is nothing to EVE and cannot reasonably justify a player council "elected" by an incredibly tiny pool of mostly uninformed and ignorant voters
 Bad idea is bad
 
 That's what I've been saying and what CPM1 has been showing but I doubt that's changing. The whole reason they did that **** was for some corporate wagging so they could appear as though they weren't completely inept and when **** hit the fan at fanfest pardon the pun... the dev team said hold on shareholders we will get the community to elect a group and they will show us the error of our ways!! Because gamer sperg lords and reasonable discussion is inherent...
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        |  Zatara Rought
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
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 Moorian Flav wrote:Quote:Since we have no forum trial system available to us (at least that I am aware of), should I assume that self-evident behavior proves enough for a conviction on its own?  We've had CPM forum trolls in the past but that never prompted a removal that I know of. If you do not like how a CPM is behaving on the forums, report them or send in a ticket referencing their trolling posts. If CCP gets enough reports/complaints, they'll likely will do something about it. If your feelings alone are hurt though (where likely no one else cares), you're pretty much SOL. 
 Or you know...you could contact them and let them know you don't appreciate it without dev intervention.
 
 You can constructively criticize my posting as often as you please, I pay attention when it follows the rules of CPR
 
 Constructively
 Privately
 Respectfully
 
 People make mistakes and get frustrated and you might be on the receiving end unfavorably.
 
 A nudge to be better is often all that's needed.
  
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        |  Jack 3enimble
 Titans of Phoenix
 
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      | Posted - 2014.12.03 05:40:00 -
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 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Is this possible, if so, how? about 16 of them have been MIA / AWOL for as long as they have been a CPM. they need removing from power cause it was just nothing mroe then +ego and +epeen to them 16? /me looks around I never knew we had that many elected in the history of the council combined!!! some one posted the full list there was like 20 and all i see if you, cross, xorya and i think one more person.. thats it.. the 4 of you is all i ever see THIS list http://dust514.com/community/cpm/candidates/ and all iv ever seen was iron wolf sabre, sorya, judge and cross out of the 20 total CPM people.. so yeah Rattatti is only accounting for the workload of 4 CPM who probably work 3x harder then a single person. 
 Bro,
 
 I think it's better that you STFU, you're clowning yourself here...
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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.12.03 05:45:00 -
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 Zatara Rought wrote:Moorian Flav wrote:Quote:Since we have no forum trial system available to us (at least that I am aware of), should I assume that self-evident behavior proves enough for a conviction on its own?  We've had CPM forum trolls in the past but that never prompted a removal that I know of. If you do not like how a CPM is behaving on the forums, report them or send in a ticket referencing their trolling posts. If CCP gets enough reports/complaints, they'll likely will do something about it. If your feelings alone are hurt though (where likely no one else cares), you're pretty much SOL. Or you know...you could contact them and let them know you don't appreciate it without dev intervention.  You can constructively criticize my posting as often as you please, I pay attention when it follows the rules of CPRC onstructivelyP rivatelyR espectfully People make mistakes and get frustrated and you might be on the receiving end unfavorably. A nudge to be better is often all that's needed.   While this may be true, I still am of the opinion that some form of community initiated removal process should be in place. If not for the current CPM, what if CPM9 does something truly egregious in the eyes of the community at large?
 
 There should be a formal way of voting "No Confidence" just as there is a formal process for voting in the first place.
 
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        |  thehellisgoingon
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
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      | Posted - 2014.12.03 06:05:00 -
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 if we can Vote them in we should be able to vote them out.
 
 Muhahahahaha
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        |  Michael Arck
 
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      | Posted - 2014.12.03 06:10:00 -
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 Ripley Riley wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:most of the CPM are MIA Judge Rhadamanthus - MIA because he can't achieve a 50 K/D anymore 
 This made me chuckle. Wait, are you halfway serious? My discerning skills has not let me down yet.
 
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