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Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 145	Posted - 2014.11.29 16:43:00 - [31] - Quote Mikel Arias wrote: The problem with this kind of post is, I believe, they are made from the point of view of someone who is just suffering because of something (scouts, RE, heavys, minjas). Dont get me wrong, Im not going to say that you should just shut up and get good, that would be bull**** and its just a game, but before creating this kind of posts those people should try to play the other role thats making them cry, because that way you will learn how they play and you will know what they are likely to do in certain circumstances, and above all, you will learn how to kill them and how to avoid to get killed. Sounds stupid? Try it, then you will see. Its an excellent way to adapt, and thats all this game is about, adapt. 1. Didnt read the OP 1a. Gal Scout - Level 5 - Cloak - Level 5 - Scout skills - Level 5 - RE level 1 - All you need 2. RE Broken - They teleport, they slide, you can throw them 20m and more 3. Cloak broken - Can shoot while invisible, decloaking is slow, decloaking after i throw RE/shoot, super suprise attack where the enemy have no idea until they are dead and im gone 4. How do you avoid a teleporting sliding RE thrown by an invisible scout who decloaks after the action which is supposed to decloak them before the action is carried out? 5. A sentinal can survive an RE, not directly but the splash at least if you are on the edge, takes 80% of your health tho but its more than a logi or assault
Spartykins Militaires Sans Jeux 84	Posted - 2014.11.29 17:19:00 - [32] - Quote Gyn Wallace wrote: That's why the cloaked scout with the current REs are overpowered. Tell me what I can fit or how I can behave to counter this tactic without resorting to using a scout? Step 1 - Identify scout. Step 2 - Move away from spam. Step 3 - Shoot scout. (Insert witty phrase here)
Gyn Wallace OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 157	Posted - 2014.11.29 20:31:00 - [33] - Quote Spartykins wrote: Gyn Wallace wrote: That's why the cloaked scout with the current REs are overpowered. Tell me what I can fit or how I can behave to counter this tactic without resorting to using a scout? Step 1 - Identify scout. ... That's not really a solution when the problem is that we can't identify scouts until its too late to escape their RE blast radius. The Dust/Eve Isk Exchange Thread
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1379	Posted - 2014.11.29 20:34:00 - [34] - Quote Cloak + Hive Cloak + Link Cloak + RE Cloak + Rep Tool Cloak + Active Scanner Cloak + Needle Options, thats why Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
Stupid F0ckin Scrub Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 3	Posted - 2014.12.04 21:40:00 - [35] - Quote Mikel Arias wrote: The problem with this kind of post is, I believe, they are made from the point of view of someone who is just suffering because of something (scouts, RE, heavys, minjas). Dont get me wrong, Im not going to say that you should just shut up and get good, that would be bull**** and its just a game, but before creating this kind of posts those people should try to play the other role thats making them cry, because that way you will learn how they play and you will know what they are likely to do in certain circumstances, and above all, you will learn how to kill them and how to avoid to get killed. Sounds stupid? Try it, then you will see. Its an excellent way to adapt, and thats all this game is about, adapt. I used to run logi scout, then I began to Shotgun, because why not. After some time I began to run assault. Then I became a Minja. I must say, my ability to not get killed by scouts is going up the more I play as one. It does help to learn how scouts run to avoid and kill them. My advise if you are worried about RE's, don't walk in a tight group of 5+ people. Easy target for RE's. Beside that, be careful when chasing a scout.
Stupid F0ckin Scrub Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 3	Posted - 2014.12.04 21:42:00 - [36] - Quote Sorry for the double post, but maybe if we make the RE have a throwable range of 5m everyone would be happy? Intimidate sticking, no sliding. Hopefully no disappearing.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 606	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:33:00 - [37] - Quote They don't. Scouts currently, understandably, just love being able to mix and match equipment and ignore the greater game balance overall. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 452	Posted - 2014.12.04 23:55:00 - [38] - Quote thehellisgoingon wrote: I asked my girl the same thing. I can only use one.... My girl runs a full 6. Time to stop running militia...
Finn Colman Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 83	Posted - 2014.12.05 02:58:00 - [39] - Quote Aw man, I was hoping that the logi-scout would be around for quite some time to come. I don't like using cloaks anyway, since I have found them to be rather ineffectual for the cost of fitting them, so i usually grab a needle and reptool/uplink. A shadow clad in duct tape, waiting for the moment to strike. PSA: Tell players to terminate in order to access mCRUs.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4884	Posted - 2014.12.05 03:13:00 - [40] - Quote Because we thought we were going to all use a cloak and Uplinks or something. Instead, I ended up using the extra CPU/PG for better mods.

Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4888	Posted - 2014.12.05 03:14:00 - [41] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Cloak + Hive Cloak + Link Cloak + RE Cloak + Rep Tool Cloak + Active Scanner Cloak + Needle Options, thats why I should really read others' posts before adding my own.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public.Disorder. 675	Posted - 2014.12.05 08:42:00 - [42] - Quote Remember when everyone was asking how you escape the redline when your team is pushed all the way back? Cloak + uplink
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 605	Posted - 2014.12.05 11:27:00 - [43] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Remember when everyone was asking how you escape the redline when your team is pushed all the way back? Cloak + uplink You dont need a cloak for that. You are fast enough to run to the edge where there are no enemies and proceed from there. Assaults are supposed to be the most versatile suit yet scouts do it better.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 605	Posted - 2014.12.05 11:35:00 - [44] - Quote Stupid F0ckin Scrub wrote: Scouts need two slots. Reason one: Drop uplinks and scans Reason two: Cloak and scans Reason three: Cloak and Links Reason four: Any other combo they want, be it dual scans, dual links, cloaks and RE's. Get over it, based on the role, scouts actually need dual slots. Quit complaining about scouts please. Situational awareness keeps you from getting killed, and you will find scouts are way easy to kill when you see one rushing up on you. Pop, pop pop, down goes the paper scout, even tank scouts are paper. Think about it, a proto tank scout (ck.0) maybe 500 shields 200 armor vs. a proto tank assault (ck.0) 500-600 shield 400-600 armor. Tell me that one of these comparable meta level suits isn't easier to kill than the other. The scout at that point couldn't even have a cloak. Please explain how situational awareness helps when you cant see behind you and scouts can become invisible when the map is incredibly bright because of the lighting. Scouts also have a smaller hitbox, are much faster than that bricked cal assault and can sneak up on you with no problem at all. They also have more versatillity than an assault, which by design, is wrong.
jonny battles Titans of Phoenix 10	Posted - 2014.12.05 11:40:00 - [45] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Also, REs, stop moaning about them. They are not easy to use, they are not hard to avoid, and sometimes they are the only way to beat the logi heavy pair (with difficulty). If you are referring to videos made by Pyrex on the subject, REs have been nerfed heavily since then. Re' s are not hard to use at all you do is drop them and wait for people or use the fact that heavy are to Damn slow to get away from then I've been on both sides or them even though there fun to use they need a nerf. It shouldn't be able to 1 shot a proto heavy It was just that easy
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 1019	Posted - 2014.12.05 13:14:00 - [46] - Quote You will often (not) see me running around in a min scout suit with no equipment. Just a bunch of PEs, a bunch of PDs / KCs, an Ion Pistol in my L slot, and NKs in my sidearm slot. Maybe an ADV shield extender. I can't fit anything in the equipment slots, but I don't ~~need~~ want to either. Call me an old-skool scout, but cloak doesn't fit my style. I do have an M-I with 2x KinCats and an L4 uplink, but I so rarely use that. I have doubts about dropping uplinks being a major part of a scout's role. I have an Amarr logi for that job. I only take the M-I out when I need to get around the map fast and quietly to try and turn the tide of battle with an uplink. Then I will be spawning in on that uplink with the logi anyway to replace it with my logi's uplink, which is vastly superior with the logi bonuses. Anyway other mileage clearly varies, but i wouldn't be affected if I had no equipment slots and cloak was removed from the game. You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz


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