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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:40:00 -
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Ignore me, just bringing some closed beta nostalgia.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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Frost Kitty
Ancient Exiles.
142
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:42:00 -
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Meow
Right Meow!
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FIRST TESTDUMMY
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:45:00 -
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What's the difference between the Imperfects and the Imps? |
Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
1153
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:45:00 -
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Stop rolling in the deep memories. *listens to adele*
The Connoisseur of Weapons.
19/19 Level 5, 19/19 Proficiency 3.
Excessively British. Tea is the drink of Gods.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
13397
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:48:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:Stop rolling in the deep memories. *listens to adele* "We could have had it all" - DUST community thinking about the game.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
1060
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:36:00 -
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You rang?
O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
651
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:37:00 -
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PFBH v PRO
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
501
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:43:00 -
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Creeping around this thread I am... yoda? Are they still here? I thought they went extinct, then again I thought the DJIINs were extinct when they are just an endangered species...
Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the Raider Scout's colour.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4663
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:49:00 -
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I was one of those militia scrubs that got their face put in the dirt during that time.... buuuuuut I still suck :]
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
1190
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:00:00 -
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Ah nostalgia for the good ole days. |
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
13400
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:02:00 -
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Murrow
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
478
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:22:00 -
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I r so bad imp q.q |
sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
503
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:28:00 -
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You mean marrow? The stuff in bones? No? hmm...
I am as funny as a dead Cat (merc) lying on the ground
Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the Raider Scout's colour.
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:58:00 -
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FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:What's the difference between the Imperfects and the Imps? Imps was the ticker for Imperfects I believe but then there was also impswarm..which was like the stepping stone to internal error the sister corp to Imperfects ..internal error had several imperfect players in it as officers
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:59:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:PFBH v PRO Lol pro is and was a joke pfdh..wipes out pro
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Dingleburt Bangledack
334
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:03:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:PFBH v PRO I'll be honest. When I was new to Dust and for many months afterword, I thought PRO was an NPC corp... |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2333
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Posted - 2014.11.26 17:14:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:PFBH v PRO
It wasn't pretty.
I remember my first PC and the feeling of awe I had after that battle....like WTF just happened there???
Figured out a month or so later I had about 0.3s of input lag in my TV/preamp, but I will not forget those beatings.
Thanks for the reminder. lol |
Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
1064
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:40:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:PFBH v PRO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0D4dfLIVSM
There ya go.
O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15080
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:43:00 -
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FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:What's the difference between the Imperfects and the Imps?
Imperfects could actually back up their smack talk?
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Immortal John Ripper
25815
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:What's the difference between the Imperfects and the Imps? Imperfects could actually back up their smack talk? It is just a corp name... most of them actually felt pretty average. Although same could be said when I joined tp and felt like everyone was average on my level and 99% of the rest of the player base was just terribad. There were only very few players during my time on this game that really stood out to me.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15084
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:09:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:True Adamance wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:What's the difference between the Imperfects and the Imps? Imperfects could actually back up their smack talk? It is just a corp name... most of them actually felt pretty average. Although same could be said when I joined tp and felt like everyone was average on my level and 99% of the rest of the player base was just terribad. There were only very few players during my time on this game that really stood out to me.
Eh when they guys like Beld I knew to stay the **** away from his tank.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
1064
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:37:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:True Adamance wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:What's the difference between the Imperfects and the Imps? Imperfects could actually back up their smack talk? It is just a corp name... most of them actually felt pretty average. Although same could be said when I joined tp and felt like everyone was average on my level and 99% of the rest of the player base was just terribad. There were only very few players during my time on this game that really stood out to me. Eh when they guys like Beld I knew to stay the **** away from his tank.
The talent range of the current playerbase simply does not compare to that of the era of chromosome and before in closed beta. Those real high end guys, (Fizzy and James comes to mind) rocked basic and advanced Caldari assaults with GEKs and less than 500 hp and they would put up kill counts and kdrs I struggle to hit with dual tanked stacked proto suits with Duvolles.
And they did it without aim assist or tac net shenanigans.
I might be considered an above average player now, hell, in this current pool I'd even put myself as well above average, but back when the bunnies and Imperfects were relevant, I couldn't even hold a flame to some of those guys in my wildest fantasies. Only thing I had going for me was being a good assault counter sniper, and anti-AV for slap.
O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
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Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
455
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:42:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:True Adamance wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:True Adamance wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:What's the difference between the Imperfects and the Imps? Imperfects could actually back up their smack talk? It is just a corp name... most of them actually felt pretty average. Although same could be said when I joined tp and felt like everyone was average on my level and 99% of the rest of the player base was just terribad. There were only very few players during my time on this game that really stood out to me. Eh when they guys like Beld I knew to stay the **** away from his tank. The talent range of the current playerbase simply does not compare to that of the era of chromosome and before in closed beta. Those real high end guys, (Fizzy and James comes to mind) rocked basic and advanced Caldari assaults with GEKs and less than 500 hp and they would put up kill counts and kdrs I struggle to hit with dual tanked stacked proto suits with Duvolles. And they did it without aim assist or tac net shenanigans. I might be considered an above average player now, hell, in this current pool I'd even put myself as well above average, but back when the bunnies and Imperfects were relevant, I couldn't even hold a flame to some of those guys in my wildest fantasies. Only thing I had going for me was being a good assault counter sniper, and anti-AV for slap.
Dude, let's not act like 500 eHP was not more than enough in chromosome.
This game was terribly easy and majorly clunky and if you look at the first person perspective of most of these players, you find out that all good players have similar good aims, just some take more advantage of either broken mechanics or just being more aware.
The hit detection was god awful and strafing with a kin-catted out dragonfly scout only made it worse, it was easy to get away with under 500 eHP if they never landed a bullet.
"Talent" just comes from playing the game long enough to get good at it.
Only loyal to the republic.
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1303
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:54:00 -
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Great people to play with and against. I don't know where any of them are.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
1065
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:58:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:Daddrobit wrote:
The talent range of the current playerbase simply does not compare to that of the era of chromosome and before in closed beta. Those real high end guys, (Fizzy and James comes to mind) rocked basic and advanced Caldari assaults with GEKs and less than 500 hp and they would put up kill counts and kdrs I struggle to hit with dual tanked stacked proto suits with Duvolles.
And they did it without aim assist or tac net shenanigans.
I might be considered an above average player now, hell, in this current pool I'd even put myself as well above average, but back when the bunnies and Imperfects were relevant, I couldn't even hold a flame to some of those guys in my wildest fantasies. Only thing I had going for me was being a good assault counter sniper, and anti-AV for slap.
Dude, let's not act like 500 eHP was not more than enough in chromosome. This game was terribly easy and majorly clunky and if you look at the first person perspective of most of these players, you find out that all good players have similar good aims, just some take more advantage of either broken mechanics or just being more aware. The hit detection was god awful and strafing with a kin-catted out dragonfly scout only made it worse, it was easy to get away with under 500 eHP if they never landed a bullet. "Talent" just comes from playing the game long enough to get good at it.
Less than mate. Fizzy in particular ran around with barely 400, if that. I recall that number because it was how I was able to kill him with finely cooked basic locus grenades whenever I had to face off with him.
And these guys ran assaults, not kin cat scouts. Even with the shoddy hit detection, being able to stay alive is one thing, but these guys put up 45+ kills on a regular basis, I watched them put up greater than 60 with GEKs on basic assaults.
That was talent.
Talent -nowadays- is people who have played long enough to have 50 million sp.
O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15089
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Posted - 2014.11.26 23:01:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:True Adamance wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:True Adamance wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:What's the difference between the Imperfects and the Imps? Imperfects could actually back up their smack talk? It is just a corp name... most of them actually felt pretty average. Although same could be said when I joined tp and felt like everyone was average on my level and 99% of the rest of the player base was just terribad. There were only very few players during my time on this game that really stood out to me. Eh when they guys like Beld I knew to stay the **** away from his tank. The talent range of the current playerbase simply does not compare to that of the era of chromosome and before in closed beta. Those real high end guys, (Fizzy and James comes to mind) rocked basic and advanced Caldari assaults with GEKs and less than 500 hp and they would put up kill counts and kdrs I struggle to hit with dual tanked stacked proto suits with Duvolles. And they did it without aim assist or tac net shenanigans. I might be considered an above average player now, hell, in this current pool I'd even put myself as well above average, but back when the bunnies and Imperfects were relevant, I couldn't even hold a flame to some of those guys in my wildest fantasies. Only thing I had going for me was being a good assault counter sniper, and anti-AV for slap.
Oh I won't deny that.
Pre Tankpocalypse 1.7 I was a significantly better Tanker than I am now...... I'm lazy now, my tanks cost all of maybe 700-800K ISK which isn't much, and I don't care when I lose em or how....... back pre 1.7 I did. I'd spend minutes analysing an enemy tank on foot to find out how it fought and then to guess what it was equipped with before calling in my own.
Then I would basically keep tabs on it either waiting for friendly AV to engage or for a chance to sneak up behind it and once that happened I'd simply go to town on it in my "Little Soma that Could".
Either that or ran the old Light Scout HAV to wreck anything that thought it was superior to a MLT tank with insane mobility and DPS.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Exile Code
5
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Posted - 2014.11.26 23:46:00 -
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FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:What's the difference between the Imperfects and the Imps?
E, R, F, E, C, T. |
Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
455
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Posted - 2014.11.26 23:49:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Ace Boone wrote:Daddrobit wrote:
The talent range of the current playerbase simply does not compare to that of the era of chromosome and before in closed beta. Those real high end guys, (Fizzy and James comes to mind) rocked basic and advanced Caldari assaults with GEKs and less than 500 hp and they would put up kill counts and kdrs I struggle to hit with dual tanked stacked proto suits with Duvolles.
And they did it without aim assist or tac net shenanigans.
I might be considered an above average player now, hell, in this current pool I'd even put myself as well above average, but back when the bunnies and Imperfects were relevant, I couldn't even hold a flame to some of those guys in my wildest fantasies. Only thing I had going for me was being a good assault counter sniper, and anti-AV for slap.
Dude, let's not act like 500 eHP was not more than enough in chromosome. This game was terribly easy and majorly clunky and if you look at the first person perspective of most of these players, you find out that all good players have similar good aims, just some take more advantage of either broken mechanics or just being more aware. The hit detection was god awful and strafing with a kin-catted out dragonfly scout only made it worse, it was easy to get away with under 500 eHP if they never landed a bullet. "Talent" just comes from playing the game long enough to get good at it. Less than mate. Fizzy in particular ran around with barely 400, if that. I recall that number because it was how I was able to kill him with finely cooked basic locus grenades whenever I had to face off with him. And these guys ran assaults, not kin cat scouts. Even with the shoddy hit detection, being able to stay alive is one thing, but these guys put up 45+ kills on a regular basis, I watched them put up greater than 60 with GEKs on basic assaults. That was talent. Talent -nowadays- is people who have played long enough to have 50 million sp.
ARs were OP as **** and the only go-to weapon there was. Sax can still drop a 70 bomb using advanced gear, and I know plenty of others that can too.
This game was easy mode back in chromasome, I think if you match up the best players of today versus the best players then, in this era, they would get toasted dude.
There's more to DUST now.
Only loyal to the republic.
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Exile Code
5
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Posted - 2014.11.26 23:56:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:Daddrobit wrote:Ace Boone wrote:Daddrobit wrote:
The talent range of the current playerbase simply does not compare to that of the era of chromosome and before in closed beta. Those real high end guys, (Fizzy and James comes to mind) rocked basic and advanced Caldari assaults with GEKs and less than 500 hp and they would put up kill counts and kdrs I struggle to hit with dual tanked stacked proto suits with Duvolles.
And they did it without aim assist or tac net shenanigans.
I might be considered an above average player now, hell, in this current pool I'd even put myself as well above average, but back when the bunnies and Imperfects were relevant, I couldn't even hold a flame to some of those guys in my wildest fantasies. Only thing I had going for me was being a good assault counter sniper, and anti-AV for slap.
Dude, let's not act like 500 eHP was not more than enough in chromosome. This game was terribly easy and majorly clunky and if you look at the first person perspective of most of these players, you find out that all good players have similar good aims, just some take more advantage of either broken mechanics or just being more aware. The hit detection was god awful and strafing with a kin-catted out dragonfly scout only made it worse, it was easy to get away with under 500 eHP if they never landed a bullet. "Talent" just comes from playing the game long enough to get good at it. Less than mate. Fizzy in particular ran around with barely 400, if that. I recall that number because it was how I was able to kill him with finely cooked basic locus grenades whenever I had to face off with him. And these guys ran assaults, not kin cat scouts. Even with the shoddy hit detection, being able to stay alive is one thing, but these guys put up 45+ kills on a regular basis, I watched them put up greater than 60 with GEKs on basic assaults. That was talent. Talent -nowadays- is people who have played long enough to have 50 million sp. ARs were OP as **** and the only go-to weapon there was. Sax can still drop a 70 bomb using advanced gear, and I know plenty of others that can too. This game was easy mode back in chromasome, I think if you match up the best players of today versus the best players then, in this era, they would get toasted dude. There's more to DUST now.
Saxon runs a proto amarr assault with 1000 + hp, with a whole squad of logis on him.
I'm not trying to insult Saxon, I'm just trying to make a point. |
Immortal John Ripper
25818
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Posted - 2014.11.26 23:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Daddrobit wrote:True Adamance wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Imperfects could actually back up their smack talk?
It is just a corp name... most of them actually felt pretty average. Although same could be said when I joined tp and felt like everyone was average on my level and 99% of the rest of the player base was just terribad. There were only very few players during my time on this game that really stood out to me. Eh when they guys like Beld I knew to stay the **** away from his tank. The talent range of the current playerbase simply does not compare to that of the era of chromosome and before in closed beta. Those real high end guys, (Fizzy and James comes to mind) rocked basic and advanced Caldari assaults with GEKs and less than 500 hp and they would put up kill counts and kdrs I struggle to hit with dual tanked stacked proto suits with Duvolles. And they did it without aim assist or tac net shenanigans. I might be considered an above average player now, hell, in this current pool I'd even put myself as well above average, but back when the bunnies and Imperfects were relevant, I couldn't even hold a flame to some of those guys in my wildest fantasies. Only thing I had going for me was being a good assault counter sniper, and anti-AV for slap. Oh I won't deny that. Pre Tankpocalypse 1.7 I was a significantly better Tanker than I am now...... I'm lazy now, my tanks cost all of maybe 700-800K ISK which isn't much, and I don't care when I lose em or how....... back pre 1.7 I did. I'd spend minutes analysing an enemy tank on foot to find out how it fought and then to guess what it was equipped with before calling in my own. Then I would basically keep tabs on it either waiting for friendly AV to engage or for a chance to sneak up behind it and once that happened I'd simply go to town on it in my "Little Soma that Could". Either that or ran the old Light Scout HAV to wreck anything that thought it was superior to a MLT tank with insane mobility and DPS.
Speak for yourselves noobs lol. When I first started, I only felt like I sucked for 2 weeks max then I started carrying my team. Facing james ment it wasn't going to be another snoozefest match. I looked forward to players like him but I never considered them as invincible as some people make them out to be.
I guess that is the difference between our skill levels.... I can actually fight back. :p
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General John Ripper
25888
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Posted - 2014.11.26 23:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Daddrobit wrote:True Adamance wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Imperfects could actually back up their smack talk?
It is just a corp name... most of them actually felt pretty average. Although same could be said when I joined tp and felt like everyone was average on my level and 99% of the rest of the player base was just terribad. There were only very few players during my time on this game that really stood out to me. Eh when they guys like Beld I knew to stay the **** away from his tank. The talent range of the current playerbase simply does not compare to that of the era of chromosome and before in closed beta. Those real high end guys, (Fizzy and James comes to mind) rocked basic and advanced Caldari assaults with GEKs and less than 500 hp and they would put up kill counts and kdrs I struggle to hit with dual tanked stacked proto suits with Duvolles. And they did it without aim assist or tac net shenanigans. I might be considered an above average player now, hell, in this current pool I'd even put myself as well above average, but back when the bunnies and Imperfects were relevant, I couldn't even hold a flame to some of those guys in my wildest fantasies. Only thing I had going for me was being a good assault counter sniper, and anti-AV for slap. Oh I won't deny that. Pre Tankpocalypse 1.7 I was a significantly better Tanker than I am now...... I'm lazy now, my tanks cost all of maybe 700-800K ISK which isn't much, and I don't care when I lose em or how....... back pre 1.7 I did. I'd spend minutes analysing an enemy tank on foot to find out how it fought and then to guess what it was equipped with before calling in my own. Then I would basically keep tabs on it either waiting for friendly AV to engage or for a chance to sneak up behind it and once that happened I'd simply go to town on it in my "Little Soma that Could". Either that or ran the old Light Scout HAV to wreck anything that thought it was superior to a MLT tank with insane mobility and DPS.
Speak for yourselves noobs lol. When I first started, I only felt like I sucked for 2 weeks max then I started carrying my team. Facing james ment it wasn't going to be another snoozefest match. I looked forward to players like him but I never considered them as invincible as some people make them out to be.
I guess that is the difference between our skill levels.... I can actually fight back. :p
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1361
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Posted - 2014.11.27 00:16:00 -
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stb were better trolls than imp altho imp were awesome trolls after.. sadly the forums became what they are now
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15091
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Posted - 2014.11.27 00:23:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:
Speak for yourselves noobs lol. When I first started, I only felt like I sucked for 2 weeks max then I started carrying my team. Facing james ment it wasn't going to be another snoozefest match. I looked forward to players like him but I never considered them as invincible as some people make them out to be.
I guess that is the difference between our skill levels.... I can actually fight back. :p
General please.
It's not hard to score highly on your team in public matches if you try, especially with how vehicles used to be before turrets got 10K EHP. You could easily score 4-5K WP a match and have 35-60 kills. That did not means I was a better tanker than I was before I simply had an OP tool that required little effort to use.
I was better back then because I cared enough to want to be.
Currently I don't. All I have to do is win FW matches and beat the Q-Sync on the other side of the map..... job done. No enjoyment, no context, and a lack of content means I don't have the motivation to want to be competitive.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
829
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Posted - 2014.11.27 01:49:00 -
[34] - Quote
Everyone forgets about SyN, but I believe we had the deepest pool of talented players in Dust during the closed beta.
FOR THE STATE
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1304
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:20:00 -
[35] - Quote
Moochie Cricket wrote:Everyone forgets about SyN, but I believe we had the deepest pool of talented players in Dust during the closed beta.
Yes. SyN was another one. I think SyN and TeamPlayers were probably of only a handful of corps that could actually beat the Imps and Bunnies with some resemblance of consistency.
Pretty much all the corps that were in closed beta and then made up EoN during the early PC days. Imps and Bunnies went independent and didn't take sides, and were up for hire at that point, if memory serves.
Don't matter. EoN would have eventually fallen, whether or not the Imps and Bunnies joined. They simply weren't big enough. Made hundreds of millions of isk, but people were just getting tired. Didn't want to try anymore.
Back in the day, if you were facing SyN, Team, or Imps. It would make your palms sweaty and you got excited for the match. I don't get excited and anxious for a match like that anymore. As for the Bunnies, I never saw them often enough personally to know for sure. The times I did, the match was hit or miss. I knew they were good though, because some guys in corp would tell me how fun a match would be against them. I just never really experienced them.
We corp battled Imps and won a few times, tt was back and forth. We only beat them once in PC though, never got them again. We never corp battled the Bunnies, and I only saw the Bunnies once in PC when I was ringing for SyN. We won. We never once beat SyN in a corp battle, but I did a lot of ringing with them, and they did for us too. They were ALWAYS good. We never corp battled Team Players. I did some ringing for them in PC. They won consistently.
My vote for GOAT goes to Synergy Gaming. With Imps and Team Players tied for second. Bunnies third (on grounds that even though I dont have much experience facing them, I saw the wake of destruction they left behind in PC).
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1305
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:30:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:Daddrobit wrote:Ace Boone wrote:Daddrobit wrote:
The talent range of the current playerbase simply does not compare to that of the era of chromosome and before in closed beta. Those real high end guys, (Fizzy and James comes to mind) rocked basic and advanced Caldari assaults with GEKs and less than 500 hp and they would put up kill counts and kdrs I struggle to hit with dual tanked stacked proto suits with Duvolles.
And they did it without aim assist or tac net shenanigans.
I might be considered an above average player now, hell, in this current pool I'd even put myself as well above average, but back when the bunnies and Imperfects were relevant, I couldn't even hold a flame to some of those guys in my wildest fantasies. Only thing I had going for me was being a good assault counter sniper, and anti-AV for slap.
Dude, let's not act like 500 eHP was not more than enough in chromosome. This game was terribly easy and majorly clunky and if you look at the first person perspective of most of these players, you find out that all good players have similar good aims, just some take more advantage of either broken mechanics or just being more aware. The hit detection was god awful and strafing with a kin-catted out dragonfly scout only made it worse, it was easy to get away with under 500 eHP if they never landed a bullet. "Talent" just comes from playing the game long enough to get good at it. Less than mate. Fizzy in particular ran around with barely 400, if that. I recall that number because it was how I was able to kill him with finely cooked basic locus grenades whenever I had to face off with him. And these guys ran assaults, not kin cat scouts. Even with the shoddy hit detection, being able to stay alive is one thing, but these guys put up 45+ kills on a regular basis, I watched them put up greater than 60 with GEKs on basic assaults. That was talent. Talent -nowadays- is people who have played long enough to have 50 million sp. ARs were OP as **** and the only go-to weapon there was. Sax can still drop a 70 bomb using advanced gear, and I know plenty of others that can too. This game was easy mode back in chromasome, I think if you match up the best players of today versus the best players then, in this era, they would get toasted dude. There's more to DUST now.
You're right. The game is different today. But I don't think the older players would have a hard time adapting to cloaked shotgun scouts (and I honestly think that's the ONLY thing that would catch the old dream teams off-guard at first).
Newer weapons like RRs and CRs they would immediately adapt to. The learning curve is far less steep today than it was back then.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:04:00 -
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Depends what we're talking about here. Imperfects in closed beta was far different than in open beta and beyond. Pretty sure we played SyN in the closed beta tournament and rolled right over them, but then again I'm sure it was a different SyN than the one in open beta and beyond.
Though, I've always considered SyN a good corp, but nowhere near the level of say TP for example.
Bunnies were top guys for sure, as long as we're only talking 8 vs 8 battles. They just weren't deep enough of a corp to be considered a top corp in bigger battles.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
R.I.P MAG.
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1305
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:54:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Depends what we're talking about here. Imperfects in closed beta was far different than in open beta and beyond. Pretty sure we played SyN in the closed beta tournament and rolled right over them, but then again I'm sure it was a different SyN than the one in open beta and beyond. Though, I've always considered SyN a good corp, but nowhere near the level of say TP for example. Bunnies were top guys for sure, as long as we're only talking 8 vs 8 battles. They just weren't deep enough of a corp to be considered a top corp in bigger battles.
Well, you're right. Just like you say, "it depends". If we start getting into who did what during their prime, then naturally the arguments to decide GOAT become convoluted. I just gave a vote based on what I experienced of them across all eras: Closed, Open, and PC.
It's a close order too. Near the end of my time playing PC, SyN and TP were constantly carrying for EoN against bad odds. My time with both of them made me filthy rich. lol
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
832
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Posted - 2014.11.28 04:08:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Depends what we're talking about here. Imperfects in closed beta was far different than in open beta and beyond. Pretty sure we played SyN in the closed beta tournament and rolled right over them, but then again I'm sure it was a different SyN than the one in open beta and beyond. Though, I've always considered SyN a good corp, but nowhere near the level of say TP for example. Bunnies were top guys for sure, as long as we're only talking 8 vs 8 battles. They just weren't deep enough of a corp to be considered a top corp in bigger battles. I wouldn't say SyN could consistently win the elite 8v8 battles of closed beta, but we could go 30+ players deep without a dropoff in talent which was extremely rare back then.
FOR THE STATE
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
437
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Posted - 2014.11.28 04:17:00 -
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Y'all havent mentioned the original BetaMax group (damn good) or Seraphim Initiative. Both top corps. Although the tournament that Imperfects won for that LAV blueprint was pretty cool. Nyan San was around then too...
And as far as the scores go -- anybody could put up 40+/0 games as well. The Type B suit (was it B?) and a gek with your points properly sunk into Damage Mods and the damage mod proficiency was all you needed to **** with headshots. Those tier 2 suits (as in rank 2 in the skill....) could go toe to toe with a heavy and win 95% of the time...
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Piercing Serenity
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
746
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Posted - 2014.11.28 06:54:00 -
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I was not "Leet" enough for the PFBHz v PRO battle at the time, it seems...
But on a more nostalgic note, I do think that the original 8 merc "Dream Teams" - Imps, PFBHz, SI, SyN - would roast the current best players if they played with the same interest that they did back then.
The Zitros were a very, very good pair, and Mr. Zitro's tank was pretty damn awesome. Aldin was the only tanker that Slap26 ever admitted could pop his tank. Protoman set the first "legitimate" 100+ Kill in pubs (Admittedly, he called in tanks on top of buildings for a fair chunk of it) Fizzy was great as well. I think that at my best, I was close to his equal. I would absolutely say that he was better than me
James was/is the best player I have seen. Not because he is great at DUST, but because he is great at shooters in general. He had extraordinarily good aim, even on a DS3. I remember the first time I played against him in a Q-synced pub match. Everyone in the corp had hyped him up, so I wanted to take a crack at him. He hadn't even gotten enough skill points for proto gear, but he wrecked me in mine. I got a kill or two on him, but he and I were just at different levels. Not to say I was the best of the best or anything. There were and are plenty of players better than myself.
Laz was one of the best Dropship pilots, along with Doc Holiday, etc.
If PFBHz had fared well in the opening days of Uprising, we probably would have operated like TP did in their heyday. We were not deep enough to own tons of space, but we would have been very active ringers.
Closed Beta Vet (E3 Build), Former PFBHz
Best Corps Battled (Personally): Imperfects, TeamPlayers, Hellstorm
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Piercing Serenity
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
749
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Posted - 2014.11.28 06:55:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:stb were better trolls than imp altho imp were awesome trolls after.. sadly the forums became what they are now
Imps - specifcially Soda Pop - were probably the best Trolls the game has seen so far
Closed Beta Vet (E3 Build), Former PFBHz
Best Corps Battled (Personally): Imperfects, TeamPlayers, Hellstorm
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
6298
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Posted - 2014.11.28 08:57:00 -
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Beat pfbz with a quebec squad 5 vs 8 in a corp match.
Good times.
They even tried to awoxx us by having radar swap teams mid match and we still won.
Very good times.
I am GJRs Renfield.
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Ku Shala
The Generals
1031
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:06:00 -
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ew who said PXRXO and there chupacabra leader CBJ the B stands for blow you figure the rest
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
*Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
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