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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2530
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:10:00 -
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I had forgot about charging known heavy hangouts with remote explosives. Thanks for reminding me!
I will make sure to send you heavies some packages the next time I see a lot of you friendly people waiting around for your package. "+50 delivery."
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Magewarlord
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
67
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:17:00 -
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simple fix: no more restocking (like all other equipment). you get your 2 or 3 REs per life and that's it. this is why PC is currently problematic. Most players don't care about using cheap tactics as long as they get to feel good getting kills. cheap tactics=easy mode. Don't know about you, but I'm too much a man for measures such as this. though there's lots of young and old kids out there... |
ghy6tr4
Ganking Police Division
22
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:19:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:I had forgot about charging known heavy hangouts with remote explosives. Thanks for reminding me! I will make sure to send you heavies some packages the next time I see a lot of you friendly people waiting around for your package. "+50 delivery."
PM Michael Epic in game...I did and ran a squad with him and he showed me all kinds of cool ass remote explosive tricks. I feel like I'm this guys fan club haha but when we're talking about RE's he's one of the ones I always see on the kill feed with remote explosives |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
243
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:20:00 -
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We sentinels actually are supposed to have "Splash damage resistance" which are the only damage type remotes do. CCP how ever, has not let us actually have the skill though we are skilled into it.
So take some action and file that support ticket, maybe they'll fix it and we won't have to worry about it anymore, we'll be able to live through that one remote long enough to choke a scout out ;3
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Heavy, Assault, Logi...
I got what you need yo ;D
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
845
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:28:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:And listen. I hate nerfing. I really do. I have no other complaints in this game beyond re's and the stupid people that defend them to the death. I have no problems with a strategically placed re waiting for someone to come along and go boom. I have no problem with re's blowing up vehicles but when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground, then I have a problem.
Any suit with an equipment slot can use RE's.
As you put it, "when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground..."
I just realized it's scouts you have issues with. You are just choosing to complain about Re's when it's really scouts, isn't it?
What kind of suit do you play in, Robin William's Ghost? I am curious. Tell the good folks on this thread what suit you use most often.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Jynx'D
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
38
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:32:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:In all honesty, Remotes are hard to use if the enemy PAYS ATTENTION.
Walk slowly when in enemy territory. Keep a careful ear for the RE sound.
If it's from behind SPRINT FORWARD. Unless they are using proto, you will be fine. If they try to do this from in front, OPEN FIRE. He can't detonate when dead. Kill him, back up, remove the RE.
You hopefully are sticking with teammates if you are a heavy. NEVER be a heavy without good support. You WILL get shotgunned or RE'd in the back.
That's one of the great things about this game. If you are a lone wolf and NOT a scout, 9/10 times you will get torn to shreds.
Find a squad, play with them, and play smart. Most problems blueberries complain about will go away, I guarantee it. This is a load of horse crap. A shield stacked scout can run around well enough spamming RE's close enough at your feet that you only get 2 options - run or kill. And killing doesn't guarantee that RE won't go off, so you're best bet is get out of the RE's way that IS GOING TO DENOTE IN 3 SECONDS.
That's how long a nade should take, as it's intended purpose unarguably is anti-infantry and is a tool to use during combat.
RE's are not anti-infantry, they're specialist tools, used to give a tactical edge in ambushes or punching a hole in hard armor. It is not a direct combat tool, it's a support.
But the current function of RE's is it's better to use then a Core Locus. The entire problem is as others say - it goes off much too quickly. The real answer is a placing animation so they can't be tossed around like a nade, but since we all know CCP is incapable of that, the next best solution is increase detonation timer. Make it so you do NOT throw that RE while IN COMBAT and expecting it to go off seconds later like a nade - that's insane. And the only people who support are the ones spamming it or are among those spamming it.
And FA spams RE's like CRAZY. o.0 |
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE
Consolidated Dust
49
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:32:00 -
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There should be a piece of equipment that like in RL spams the remotes spectrum and the explosive goes boom!-use RE's at one's own risk.
RE's are fuktarded, and thier tossers are as well.
tossing C4, hahaha !
satchel charges have an acid trigger it's reasonably safe..lol |
jace silencerww
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
93
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:33:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:And listen. I hate nerfing. I really do. I have no other complaints in this game beyond re's and the stupid people that defend them to the death. I have no problems with a strategically placed re waiting for someone to come along and go boom. I have no problem with re's blowing up vehicles but when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground, then I have a problem. Any suit with an equipment slot can use RE's. As you put it, "when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground..." I just realized it's scouts you have issues with. You are just choosing to complain about Re's when it's really scouts, isn't it? What kind of suit do you play in, Robin William's Ghost? I am curious. Tell the good folks on this thread what suit you use most often.
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robin williams' ghost
Damaged Beyond Repair
78
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:37:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:And listen. I hate nerfing. I really do. I have no other complaints in this game beyond re's and the stupid people that defend them to the death. I have no problems with a strategically placed re waiting for someone to come along and go boom. I have no problem with re's blowing up vehicles but when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground, then I have a problem. Any suit with an equipment slot can use RE's. As you put it, "when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground..." I just realized it's scouts you have issues with. You are just choosing to complain about Re's when it's really scouts, isn't it? What kind of suit do you play in, Robin William's Ghost? I am curious. Tell the good folks on this thread what suit you use most often. Ok, I admit that i did make it sound like I have a problem with scouts. I don't. I said scouts because that's typically who is using them. Otherwise I have no problems with scouts. As far as what suits I run, I have: Full proto min logi Full proto min assault Full proto min commando Full proto min sentinel Full proto amarr sentinel Soon to be full proto min scout I'm not new to the game, I'm not against scouts, I always run with a squad and I'm sick of Damn remotes. We regularly clear rooms packed with heavies without dropping a single remote. |
jace silencerww
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
93
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:42:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:We sentinels actually are supposed to have "Splash damage resistance" which are the only damage type remotes do. CCP how ever, has not let us actually have the skill though we are skilled into it.
So take some action and file that support ticket, maybe they'll fix it and we won't have to worry about it anymore, we'll be able to live through that one remote long enough to choke a scout out ;3
LOL on my heavy I live though REs and I know Vesperz has as well. btw think re does do 20% to armor since it is in that category. |
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bane sieg
Damaged Beyond Repair
12
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:42:00 -
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And before someone gets all technical, robin williams ghost and I are the same person, and said suits I run are on this account as robin williams has barely 5 mil lifetime sp
CEO Damaged Beyond Repair
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jace silencerww
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
93
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:44:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:And listen. I hate nerfing. I really do. I have no other complaints in this game beyond re's and the stupid people that defend them to the death. I have no problems with a strategically placed re waiting for someone to come along and go boom. I have no problem with re's blowing up vehicles but when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground, then I have a problem. Any suit with an equipment slot can use RE's. As you put it, "when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground..." I just realized it's scouts you have issues with. You are just choosing to complain about Re's when it's really scouts, isn't it? What kind of suit do you play in, Robin William's Ghost? I am curious. Tell the good folks on this thread what suit you use most often. Ok, I admit that i did make it sound like I have a problem with scouts. I don't. I said scouts because that's typically who is using them. Otherwise I have no problems with scouts. As far as what suits I run, I have: Full proto min logi Full proto min assault Full proto min commando Full proto min sentinel Full proto amarr sentinel Soon to be full proto min scout I'm not new to the game, I'm not against scouts, I always run with a squad and I'm sick of Damn remotes. We regularly clear rooms packed with heavies without dropping a single remote.
good for you but not everyone haves a squad to be with. so how to clear a room solo.... RE is the great answer. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14893
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:50:00 -
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Lol.....when infantry thinks they are having a tough time because of RE.......
Imagine if those RE were strapped to the front of a ballistic missiles slightly more intelligent than a raccoon moving at 100kmph.......
"The moment passed in thunder and calamitous intent and yet no order was given to retreat or give their ground"
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Feldt-Grace
Anaheim Electronics Manufacture Company
29
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:55:00 -
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For 1 Remote kill = 7 deaths ^^
TRANS-AM!
Gundam, DUST and more Gameplays
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Jynx'D
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
38
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:57:00 -
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jace silencerww wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:And listen. I hate nerfing. I really do. I have no other complaints in this game beyond re's and the stupid people that defend them to the death. I have no problems with a strategically placed re waiting for someone to come along and go boom. I have no problem with re's blowing up vehicles but when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground, then I have a problem. Any suit with an equipment slot can use RE's. As you put it, "when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground..." I just realized it's scouts you have issues with. You are just choosing to complain about Re's when it's really scouts, isn't it? What kind of suit do you play in, Robin William's Ghost? I am curious. Tell the good folks on this thread what suit you use most often. Ok, I admit that i did make it sound like I have a problem with scouts. I don't. I said scouts because that's typically who is using them. Otherwise I have no problems with scouts. As far as what suits I run, I have: Full proto min logi Full proto min assault Full proto min commando Full proto min sentinel Full proto amarr sentinel Soon to be full proto min scout I'm not new to the game, I'm not against scouts, I always run with a squad and I'm sick of Damn remotes. We regularly clear rooms packed with heavies without dropping a single remote. good for you but not everyone haves a squad to be with. so how to clear a room solo.... RE is the great answer. The real answer is grenades, but RE's are abusable so it's the best answer instead. |
Jynx'D
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
39
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:02:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lol.....when infantry thinks they are having a tough time because of RE.......
Imagine if those RE were strapped to the front of a ballistic missiles slightly more intelligent than a raccoon moving at 100kmph....... PSH ~ We talking about future technology here! And in the future bullets are infused with magic so they disappear after certain distances, the floor will vanish throwing you into a bottomless pit of death, and remotes counter both tanks and infantry!
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bane sieg
Damaged Beyond Repair
13
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:11:00 -
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Of course if this was more realistic an orbital strike would turn said bunker full of heavies into a pile of rubble with no re's required.
CEO Damaged Beyond Repair
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Jynx'D
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
39
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:12:00 -
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bane sieg wrote:Of course if this was more realistic an orbital strike would turn said bunker full of heavies into a pile of rubble with no re's required. This really should be put into the game, hiding from OB's is dumb, what's the advantage of having one of people can just hide from 'em? They're 5000 WP now - they should be a bit more effective, and eliminating the walls for the OB's AoE would probably fix PC up a lot, as OB's both make and break games. |
DDx77
The Exemplars Top Men.
31
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:28:00 -
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Nothing more satisfying than killing a heavy with a RE
How about we nerf your hmg instead? Give you a spool up time? Make you immobile while firing?
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bane sieg
Damaged Beyond Repair
14
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:30:00 -
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jace silencerww wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:And listen. I hate nerfing. I really do. I have no other complaints in this game beyond re's and the stupid people that defend them to the death. I have no problems with a strategically placed re waiting for someone to come along and go boom. I have no problem with re's blowing up vehicles but when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground, then I have a problem. Any suit with an equipment slot can use RE's. As you put it, "when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground..." I just realized it's scouts you have issues with. You are just choosing to complain about Re's when it's really scouts, isn't it? What kind of suit do you play in, Robin William's Ghost? I am curious. Tell the good folks on this thread what suit you use most often. Ok, I admit that i did make it sound like I have a problem with scouts. I don't. I said scouts because that's typically who is using them. Otherwise I have no problems with scouts. As far as what suits I run, I have: Full proto min logi Full proto min assault Full proto min commando Full proto min sentinel Full proto amarr sentinel Soon to be full proto min scout I'm not new to the game, I'm not against scouts, I always run with a squad and I'm sick of Damn remotes. We regularly clear rooms packed with heavies without dropping a single remote. good for you but not everyone haves a squad to be with. so how to clear a room solo.... RE is the great answer. Wrong, anyone can find a good squad to run with, you just choose not to. There are plenty of great corps out there who are always recruiting.
CEO Damaged Beyond Repair
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Jynx'D
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
40
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:31:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:Nothing more satisfying than killing a heavy with a RE
How about we nerf your hmg instead? Give you a spool up time? Make you immobile while firing?
or have our heat build increased?
Oh wait~ |
jace silencerww
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
93
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:39:00 -
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bane sieg wrote:jace silencerww wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:And listen. I hate nerfing. I really do. I have no other complaints in this game beyond re's and the stupid people that defend them to the death. I have no problems with a strategically placed re waiting for someone to come along and go boom. I have no problem with re's blowing up vehicles but when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground, then I have a problem. Any suit with an equipment slot can use RE's. As you put it, "when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground..." I just realized it's scouts you have issues with. You are just choosing to complain about Re's when it's really scouts, isn't it? What kind of suit do you play in, Robin William's Ghost? I am curious. Tell the good folks on this thread what suit you use most often. Ok, I admit that i did make it sound like I have a problem with scouts. I don't. I said scouts because that's typically who is using them. Otherwise I have no problems with scouts. As far as what suits I run, I have: Full proto min logi Full proto min assault Full proto min commando Full proto min sentinel Full proto amarr sentinel Soon to be full proto min scout I'm not new to the game, I'm not against scouts, I always run with a squad and I'm sick of Damn remotes. We regularly clear rooms packed with heavies without dropping a single remote. good for you but not everyone haves a squad to be with. so how to clear a room solo.... RE is the great answer. Wrong, anyone can find a good squad to run with, you just choose not to. There are plenty of great corps out there who are always recruiting.
nope I hate your Great corp besides I have one lol but like soloing too
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8128
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Posted - 2014.11.20 21:23:00 -
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Taskanoss wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:In all honesty, Remotes are hard to use if the enemy PAYS ATTENTION.
Walk slowly when in enemy territory. Keep a careful ear for the RE sound.
If it's from behind SPRINT FORWARD. Unless they are using proto, you will be fine. If they try to do this from in front, OPEN FIRE. He can't detonate when dead. Kill him, back up, remove the RE.
You hopefully are sticking with teammates if you are a heavy. NEVER be a heavy without good support. You WILL get shotgunned or RE'd in the back.
That's one of the great things about this game. If you are a lone wolf and NOT a scout, 9/10 times you will get torn to shreds.
Find a squad, play with them, and play smart. Most problems blueberries complain about will go away, I guarantee it. What you didn't mention is how many people quit this game, due to frustration, and RE's do play a part of that. Remember your first days of Dust, and rethink what you wrote here.
I came into this game as a Minmatar scout in the high hay days of Cal Logis and Tac AR's.
You think RE'S ARE BAD?
This game isn't for the weak willed. Literally ALL of my friends that came into this game with me quit, because they refused to adapt and play smart. They all went to go play GTAV instead.
As they say in EVE, HTFU man. Nobody is going to baby you here.
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1310
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Posted - 2014.11.20 21:24:00 -
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Deal with it.
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1246
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Posted - 2014.11.20 21:31:00 -
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XD to see they still make tears flow
TLDR : No
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Sinboto Simmons
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
6535
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Posted - 2014.11.21 23:06:00 -
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Unless they've been changed in the two weeks I've been gone the REs do in fact have a relatively noticeable sound, they are also quite visible for those who know how to look for them. (may as well be neon pink for me....)
That being said the RE is a counter for tanked heavies, similar to mass drivers being a counter to Minja, you've simply run into your weakness.
If you're having problems with that particular counter it may be because you've simply not the means to oppose it?
I'm a Minmatar user myself, tend to not have too much EHP, but I'm fast enough to do much flanking and ambushing.
Going head to head, not so much.
*shrug* There's a counter to everything, you just need to utilise it.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
424
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Posted - 2014.11.21 23:50:00 -
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Love or hate REs, everyone in this thread DOES have to admit, REs
Can be thrown pretty far laterally as well as vertically (mostly by scouts due to movement speed translating to throw distance but not exclusively to scouts) SOMETIMES make a sound (and sometimes don't) Can, in SOME cases, detonate before a heavy has time to get out of radius even if he starts reacting as it is getting thrown Are hilarious and fun if you are not on the receiving end
So, you know, cut the hyperbole.
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Mad Kras
Made in Poland... E-R-A
32
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Posted - 2014.11.22 00:09:00 -
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Ever thought about watching your steps? You know the REs aren't that hard to see and they have that freaking orange light. I always put my glasses on when I play Dust, situational awareness is really important on the battlefield, come on bro! don't be just another mindless heavy.
glitches are for b*tches
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
1121
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Posted - 2014.11.22 00:27:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:And listen. I hate nerfing. I really do. I have no other complaints in this game beyond re's and the stupid people that defend them to the death. I have no problems with a strategically placed re waiting for someone to come along and go boom. I have no problem with re's blowing up vehicles but when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground, then I have a problem. Any suit with an equipment slot can use RE's. As you put it, "when a scout can toss an re down from above and have it detonate as soon as it hits the ground..." I just realized it's scouts you have issues with. You are just choosing to complain about Re's when it's really scouts, isn't it? What kind of suit do you play in, Robin William's Ghost? I am curious. Tell the good folks on this thread what suit you use most often. Ok, I admit that i did make it sound like I have a problem with scouts. I don't. I said scouts because that's typically who is using them. Otherwise I have no problems with scouts. As far as what suits I run, I have: Full proto min logi Full proto min assault Full proto min commando Full proto min sentinel Full proto amarr sentinel Soon to be full proto min scoutI'm not new to the game, I'm not against scouts, I always run with a squad and I'm sick of Damn remotes. We regularly clear rooms packed with heavies without dropping a single remote. Pro tip - In Dust, we know if you're lying. Mathematically thats impossible, with the SP required.
If you're an alt, and can prove it, I'll think otherwise.
You do make a valid point however, Scouts and REs go together as commonly as Thales and the Redline. As someone who regularly runs Assaults, Heavies are a pain in the arse to kill. I either have to rely on them being idiots, another Heavy on my side, or an RE/Knifer/Shotty Scout. On my Scout alt, I hate heavies so counter with the REs/Knives/Shotty. On my Heavy (not maxed) on this char I hate scouts so counter by using my eyes, not rolling with a massive group of heavies and logis, and avoiding bottlenecks.
Everything has a counter - albeit challenging.
The Connoisseur of Weapons. 19/19 L5 P2.
Snarcasm > Sarcasm
Excessively British.
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loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
184
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Posted - 2014.11.22 00:44:00 -
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Kinda makes me laugh to see heavies complain at the one thing that kills them in 2 seconds... What do you think happens when a scout stands in front of you and you press the Iwin button? It's a counter, deal with it. |
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