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sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 350	Posted - 2014.11.20 01:39:00 - [1] - Quote Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 593	Posted - 2014.11.20 01:59:00 - [2] - Quote dude you gotta stop smoking crack. less kick less charge pls Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Charli Chaplin jr F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 18	Posted - 2014.11.20 02:23:00 - [3] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 350	Posted - 2014.11.20 02:32:00 - [4] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4818	Posted - 2014.11.20 02:37:00 - [5] - Quote Signed. Bring back the nerf that killed CQC effectiveness...instead of long range effectiveness :( B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5985	Posted - 2014.11.20 02:44:00 - [6] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? The AR is already at the bottom of the pile. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 594	Posted - 2014.11.20 02:46:00 - [7] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? The AR is already at the bottom of the pile. Living under a rock, I see. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 352	Posted - 2014.11.20 02:50:00 - [8] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? The AR is already at the bottom of the pile. yet somehow is at the very top... Have you been under a rock for the last update/hotfix? *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 594	Posted - 2014.11.20 02:51:00 - [9] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? The AR is already at the bottom of the pile. yet somehow is at the very top... Have you been under a rock for the last update/hotfix? Apparently smoking crack confers psychic powers Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1118	Posted - 2014.11.20 03:16:00 - [10] - Quote Planetside 2 december 31 ps4 nough said We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals

Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2103	Posted - 2014.11.20 03:37:00 - [11] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? Its fine. Man, I run Standard RR on my Standard CalSalt, and I go 16/10. Its fine. Stop with your silly manchildness. Because you wanted to be something you're not. A hero. Do you feel like one now?
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2103	Posted - 2014.11.20 03:38:00 - [12] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? The AR is already at the bottom of the pile. The AR is fine. The basic one is very average, but the breach, burst and tac are in a very good place right now. Because you wanted to be something you're not. A hero. Do you feel like one now?
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 352	Posted - 2014.11.20 03:38:00 - [13] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? Its fine. Man, I run Standard RR on my Standard CalSalt, and I go 16/10. Its fine. Stop with your silly manchildness. I just want it to be a long range weapon, not CQC weapon... *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 596	Posted - 2014.11.20 05:09:00 - [14] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? Its fine. Man, I run Standard RR on my Standard CalSalt, and I go 16/10. Its fine. Stop with your silly manchildness. In what world is 16/10 "fine"? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Union118 Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.11.20 08:00:00 - [15] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: sir RAVEN Wate=Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? Its fine. Man, I run Standard RR on my Standard CalSalt, and I go 16/10. Its fine. Stop with your silly manchildness. I just want it to be a long range weapon, not CQC weapon... [/quote] Give it less Dmg maybe 1~2 hp decrease but give it shorter charge time and less kick for sure. Maybe less rate of fire but very minor so people wont think its ment for slaying. Idk... Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 353	Posted - 2014.11.20 08:01:00 - [16] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? Its fine. Man, I run Standard RR on my Standard CalSalt, and I go 16/10. Its fine. Stop with your silly manchildness. In what world is 16/10 "fine"? My world... I go 5/24 with the charge time .6 I can confirm 4 out of those 5 kills were CQC with the RR the last kill was with a bolt pistol... *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 353	Posted - 2014.11.20 08:08:00 - [17] - Quote Union118 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: sir RAVEN Wate=Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? Its fine. Man, I run Standard RR on my Standard CalSalt, and I go 16/10. Its fine. Stop with your silly manchildness. I just want it to be a long range weapon, not CQC weapon... Give it less Dmg maybe 1~2 hp decrease but give it shorter charge time and less kick for sure. Maybe less rate of fire but very minor so people wont think its ment for slaying. Idk...[/quote] You messed that quote system up... anyhow, I think that idea is decent... *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 353	Posted - 2014.11.20 08:13:00 - [18] - Quote You messed that quote system up... anyhow, I think that idea is decent... *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*
Union118 Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.11.20 08:18:00 - [19] - Quote Sorry im doing this on a android phone. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 353	Posted - 2014.11.20 08:27:00 - [20] - Quote Union118 wrote: Sorry im doing this on a android phone. it's fine... Anyhow you going to sign? *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4975	Posted - 2014.11.20 14:08:00 - [21] - Quote Dam Right!! Here is my post on the subject. Fox Gaden is Pissed! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Union118 Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 8	Posted - 2014.11.20 14:18:00 - [22] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Union118 wrote: Sorry im doing this on a android phone. it's fine... Anyhow you going to sign? Sure sign me up. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 356	Posted - 2014.11.20 17:35:00 - [23] - Quote bumping this thread so more people can see it! *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*
Taskanoss Imperial Instinct 16	Posted - 2014.11.20 17:38:00 - [24] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Planetside 2 december 31 ps4 nough said Get off the Dust Forum and go play it already. Go do the "Destiny Dance", realize in two months your heart lies with CCP and come quietly crawling back here. I got your back Bro Beans!
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 356	Posted - 2014.11.20 17:41:00 - [25] - Quote Taskanoss wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Planetside 2 december 31 ps4 nough said Get off the Dust Forum and go play it already. Go do the "Destiny Dance", realize in two months your heart lies with CCP and come quietly crawling back here. I'd ask that you ignore him for the time being. You going to sign or tell me what you think or both? *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*
i gots kills Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2014.11.20 17:52:00 - [26] - Quote I hardly saw a problem before the charge time now I'm seeing it used as a CQC weapon. WHY CCP WHY Signed
Taskanoss Imperial Instinct 18	Posted - 2014.11.20 17:53:00 - [27] - Quote I like the rail rifle where it is, it now fits the long-range rifle role instead of the omni-role it had before being nerfed. I got your back Bro Beans!
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 356	Posted - 2014.11.20 17:55:00 - [28] - Quote Taskanoss wrote: I like the rail rifle where it is, it now fits the long-range rifle role instead of the omni-role it had before being nerfed. Please visit Fox's link... Also i gots kills mentioned it's misuse And finally I will say that it is almost useless at long range. EDIT: Oh, my apologies, you meant the pre 1.9 nerf that made it a long range weapon. Well there was a new nerf that killed it's long range effectiveness and buffed it's CQC effectiveness. *"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon*
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA Top Men. 98	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:49:00 - [29] - Quote Having the extra kick is reasonable. I see the RR as a heavy machine gun. You can shoot it from the hip if you are a strong guy but it is impractical. However, whee mounted or set somewhere for support it can deal a lot of damage. Thinking of it this way the RR new kick change makes sense. The delay however, is a different story. This has made this riffle useless. You see, rarely do people sit around in FPS games. By the time the RR starts shooting the enemy has already found cover. You can do damage with this weapon but, you don't get the time you need to finish someone up. once they close the distance then that is it, you are done. This makes this rifle useless for logis since they can only carry 1 weapon (sans the ammar). Yes, you can kill people from very far with the RR but, it is not that much farther than any of the other weapons and with the close proximity the fights in this game takes place, again, it makes the rifle almost useless. A smart soldier will choose versatility and thus this rifle with the new changes has become a 1 trick pony. That doesn't make sense in the field of battle. my vote then is #1 I reluctantly agree with the current kick level. (very reluctantly but acceptable) #2 reduce spool up time.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 356	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:56:00 - [30] - Quote Luna McDuffing wrote: Having the extra kick is reasonable. I see the RR as a heavy machine gun. You can shoot it from the hip if you are a strong guy but it is impractical. However, whee mounted or set somewhere for support it can deal a lot of damage. Thinking of it this way the RR new kick change makes sense. The delay however, is a different story. This has made this riffle useless. You see, rarely do people sit around in FPS games. By the time the RR starts shooting the enemy has already found cover. You can do damage with this weapon but, you don't get the time you need to finish someone up. once they close the distance then that is it, you are done. This makes this rifle useless for logis since they can only carry 1 weapon (sans the ammar). Yes, you can kill people from very far with the RR but, it is not that much farther than any of the other weapons and with the close proximity the fights in this game takes place, again, it makes the rifle almost useless. A smart soldier will choose versatility and thus this rifle with the new changes has become a 1 trick pony. That doesn't make sense in the field of battle. my vote then is #1 I reluctantly agree with the current kick level. (very reluctantly but acceptable) #2 reduce spool up time. I'm going to sum that up to I agree, signed. I'm too lazy to put meaningful sigs here so have a triangle instead l> Ta da!

Charli Chaplin jr F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 19	Posted - 2014.11.20 20:20:00 - [31] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? When it happened, i moved on. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 359	Posted - 2014.11.20 20:22:00 - [32] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? When it happened, i moved on. and forgot how to capitalize I There has been no weapon nerfed to uselessness except... RR. This is the after forum, the old forum sploded when The Barbershop reached page *514* ...
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5992	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:02:00 - [33] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Have you been under a rock for the last update/hotfix? The regular AR not the Breach. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 363	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:12:00 - [34] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Have you been under a rock for the last update/hotfix? The regular AR not the Breach. Oh, I use those sometimes... I hate the breach... Still I find it better than the RR... I'm a very picky person when it comes to weapons... Just sign this petition so we can have a long range rifle instead of a gas dispenser. This is the after forum, the old forum sploded when The Barbershop reached page *514* ...
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 372	Posted - 2014.11.21 07:51:00 - [35] - Quote Anyone else want to sign? *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
Songs of Seraphim Murphys-Law 70	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:11:00 - [36] - Quote Something needs to be done about both Rail Rifles... they seem so subpar now... It's either Combat Rifle or Breach Assault Rifle in PC. Sign me in, Sir Raven. Raging alcoholic. I play in a pink suit because it's the fabulous thing to do.
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1056	Posted - 2014.11.21 09:05:00 - [37] - Quote The RR is just fine the way it is now. Let go of your crutch.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1259	Posted - 2014.11.21 10:21:00 - [38] - Quote signed. Zatara Rought wrote: Signed. Bring back the nerf that killed CQC effectiveness...instead of long range effectiveness :( it doesnt need to be killed though. remember how bad the laser rifle used to be in cqc? every gun should have viability in cqc. just not better than any of the assault weapons. and it should be king of the breaches. i hear the breach ar is good in cqc now, that means it should be nerfed right lol? Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 763	Posted - 2014.11.21 11:06:00 - [39] - Quote The RR is dead, its had its 4-5 months where it was a beast now its time for another weapon to take the spotlight. i hope the rr never goes back to the way it was. (only cos i skilled out of it ##xd) SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 699	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:24:00 - [40] - Quote saxonmish wrote: The RR is dead, its had its 4-5 months where it was a beast now its time for another weapon to take the spotlight. i hope the rr never goes back to the way it was. (only cos i skilled out of it ##xd) Honestly with RR i dont care anymore. I cared before and i still thing its precision rifle classing with "kick-like-mule" balance was the best. Now the RR is death and its community is still not gratefull (even it is their work, with whole that QQ before). Im out about any RR threads now, their screw it (not CCP, the RR community) and they should live with that. Honestly if i will be one of devs i will just send message:"Sorry boyos, this is wha you wanted and finally you have it." clap clap I leave the RR die. RR was great and they fcuk3d it up, end of story thats whole RR community work and they have what they wanted. Unbalanced weapon. *"In the rust we trust"*

sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 375	Posted - 2014.11.21 15:44:00 - [41] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: saxonmish wrote: The RR is dead, its had its 4-5 months where it was a beast now its time for another weapon to take the spotlight. i hope the rr never goes back to the way it was. (only cos i skilled out of it ##xd) Honestly with RR i dont care anymore. I cared before and i still think its precision rifle classing with "kick-like-mule" balance was the best. Now the RR is death and its community is still not gratefull (even it is their work, with whole that QQ before). Im out about any RR threads now, their screw it (not CCP, the RR community) and they should live with that. Honestly if i will be one of devs i will just send message:"Sorry boyos, this is what you wanted and finally you have it." clap clap And leave the RR die. RR was great and they fcuk3d it up, end of story thats whole RR community work and they have what they wanted. Unbalanced weapon. I may be reading that wrong, but it kinda pissed me off. I for one only once (Brief pause due to DeJa Vu) every complained that the kick was too much, I said something along the lines of 'If the RR is as bad as I've heard I'll just stop using it.' then I used, saw 0 difference. I was using it at it's optimal range, rarely CQC (Okay, twice on 10 armour enemies) and then... I get on the forums to a lot of people QQing about kick, which is when I defended the kick as useful in the right hands, that and it needed no changes. Changed I try to use it, useless. How many people use it? 1 or 2 out of 100 if that? I'm going to just say one thing: I will get the RR changed back to a long range weapon, or they will take my ability to post on the forums. (I'm a determined son of a btch, yes I am) Once there is some way to get the old kick back I'll shut up, until then I will request change to the RR. A bonus to a Caldari suit? ok. A Caldari racial bonus? I would welcome it. Leave the RR in a grave? An idea of pure evil! We could fix the RR, or we could break all other dropsuits and weapons so that they look up to the RR. Personally I want the RR balanced, as I want everything balanced. I've tried several times to create threads to try to help devs in the area of balancing, all derailed or ignored. /rant over. "I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 375	Posted - 2014.11.21 15:50:00 - [42] - Quote saxonmish wrote: The RR is dead, its had its 4-5 months where it was a beast now its time for another weapon to take the spotlight. i hope the rr never goes back to the way it was. (only cos i skilled out of it ##xd) It did have a few months in the spotlight, yes, but it was balanced for a week. Now? it's a fcking piece of scrap metal that isn't worth using. You skilled out of it? I'm still lvl 5 as I have been since they added it. I am skilling into other weapons now. and I'm going to get someone to fix it. "I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
Mike Ox Bigger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 488	Posted - 2014.11.21 15:52:00 - [43] - Quote signed
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 376	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:03:00 - [44] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: signed Name added *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 200	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:13:00 - [45] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: saxonmish wrote: The RR is dead, its had its 4-5 months where it was a beast now its time for another weapon to take the spotlight. i hope the rr never goes back to the way it was. (only cos i skilled out of it ##xd) It did have a few months in the spotlight, yes, but it was balanced for a week. Now? it's a f*cking piece of scrap metal that isn't worth using. You skilled out of it? I'm still lvl 5 as I have been since they added it. I am skilling into other weapons now. and I'm going to get someone to fix it. Proto RR is still murderous Raven, I'm getting some big numbers with that thing and it makes a change to switch into it every so often instead of it being the only choice. I have no issue with the RR as it currently is. But then I had no issues when it was massively OP either - so consider this petition signed! GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 376	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:24:00 - [46] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: saxonmish wrote: The RR is dead, its had its 4-5 months where it was a beast now its time for another weapon to take the spotlight. i hope the rr never goes back to the way it was. (only cos i skilled out of it ##xd) It did have a few months in the spotlight, yes, but it was balanced for a week. Now? it's a fcking piece of scrap metal that isn't worth using. You skilled out of it? I'm still lvl 5 as I have been since they added it. I am skilling into other weapons now. and I'm going to get someone to fix it. Proto RR is still murderous Raven, I'm getting some big numbers with that thing and it makes a change to switch into it every so often instead of it being the only choice. I have no issue with the RR as it currently is. But then I had no issues when it was massively OP either - so consider this petition signed! I use it, extremely hard to hit a target with 2 bullets on this automatic weapon before the target goes into cover. It's still useful in 2 situations 1, no cover, wide open range, 60 m+, and you get the drop on your enemy 2, little cover, within 10m. the whole 'prefire' sht is annoying, You can 'pre fire' but if they are still in cover you've just given your position away. Adding name now. *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 700	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:27:00 - [47] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: saxonmish wrote: The RR is dead, its had its 4-5 months where it was a beast now its time for another weapon to take the spotlight. i hope the rr never goes back to the way it was. (only cos i skilled out of it ##xd) Honestly with RR i dont care anymore. I cared before and i still think its precision rifle classing with "kick-like-mule" balance was the best. Now the RR is death and its community is still not gratefull (even it is their work, with whole that QQ before). Im out about any RR threads now, their screw it (not CCP, the RR community) and they should live with that. Honestly if i will be one of devs i will just send message:"Sorry boyos, this is what you wanted and finally you have it." clap clap And leave the RR die. RR was great and they fcuk3d it up, end of story thats whole RR community work and they have what they wanted. Unbalanced weapon. I may be reading that wrong, but it kinda pissed me off. I for one only once (Brief pause due to DeJa Vu) every complained that the kick was too much, I said something along the lines of 'If the RR is as bad as I've heard I'll just stop using it.' then I used, saw 0 difference. I was using it at it's optimal range, rarely CQC (Okay, twice on 10 armour enemies) and then... I get on the forums to a lot of people QQing about kick, which is when I defended the kick as useful in the right hands, that and it needed no changes. Changed I try to use it, useless. How many people use it? 1 or 2 out of 100 if that? I'm going to just say one thing: I will get the RR changed back to a long range weapon, or they will take my ability to post on the forums. (I'm a determined son of a btch, yes I am) Once there is some way to get the old kick back I'll shut up, until then I will request change to the RR. A bonus to a Caldari suit? ok. A Caldari racial bonus? I would welcome it. Leave the RR in a grave? An idea of pure evil! We could fix the RR, or we could break all other dropsuits and weapons so that they look up to the RR. Personally I want the RR balanced, as I want everything balanced. I've tried several times to create threads to try to help devs in the area of balancing, all derailed or ignored. /rant over. Everything what was made, was made just because neverending QQs of RR community and now they have what they wanted. Broken weapon (just not broken like they wanted ergo no OP). "In the rust we trust"*
Egonz4 DARKSTAR ARMY 443	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:34:00 - [48] - Quote Signed by the Master of the Flaylock Master of The Flaylock
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 700	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:38:00 - [49] - Quote CCP should "re-do" all back on "kick-like-mule" CQC state. In that time RR was proper precision rifle (how it was meant, because its stupid to do CQC in something behaving like auto sniper rifle). This is my last statement about RR (like it or not, from this post i really dont care about RR because stupid QQs just destroyed finally balanced weapon). *"In the rust we trust"*
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 376	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:40:00 - [50] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: saxonmish wrote: The RR is dead, its had its 4-5 months where it was a beast now its time for another weapon to take the spotlight. i hope the rr never goes back to the way it was. (only cos i skilled out of it ##xd) Honestly with RR i dont care anymore. I cared before and i still think its precision rifle classing with "kick-like-mule" balance was the best. Now the RR is death and its community is still not gratefull (even it is their work, with whole that QQ before). Im out about any RR threads now, their screw it (not CCP, the RR community) and they should live with that. Honestly if i will be one of devs i will just send message:"Sorry boyos, this is what you wanted and finally you have it." clap clap And leave the RR die. RR was great and they fcuk3d it up, end of story thats whole RR community work and they have what they wanted. Unbalanced weapon. I may be reading that wrong, but it kinda pissed me off. I for one only once (Brief pause due to DeJa Vu) every complained that the kick was too much, I said something along the lines of 'If the RR is as bad as I've heard I'll just stop using it.' then I used, saw 0 difference. I was using it at it's optimal range, rarely CQC (Okay, twice on 10 armour enemies) and then... I get on the forums to a lot of people QQing about kick, which is when I defended the kick as useful in the right hands, that and it needed no changes. Changed I try to use it, useless. How many people use it? 1 or 2 out of 100 if that? I'm going to just say one thing: I will get the RR changed back to a long range weapon, or they will take my ability to post on the forums. (I'm a determined son of a btch, yes I am) Once there is some way to get the old kick back I'll shut up, until then I will request change to the RR. A bonus to a Caldari suit? ok. A Caldari racial bonus? I would welcome it. Leave the RR in a grave? An idea of pure evil! We could fix the RR, or we could break all other dropsuits and weapons so that they look up to the RR. Personally I want the RR balanced, as I want everything balanced. I've tried several times to create threads to try to help devs in the area of balancing, all derailed or ignored. /rant over. Everything what was made, was made just because neverending QQs of RR community and now they have what they wanted. Broken weapon (just not broken like they wanted ergo no OP). I was not one of them. Where are they now? ACR, AScR, AR, and BrAR. That's where, not with the RR anymore. @Egonz4 Adding name now. "I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*

sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 376	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:42:00 - [51] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: CCP should "re-do" all back on "kick-like-mule" CQC state. In that time RR was proper precision rifle (how it was meant, because its stupid to do CQC in something behaving like auto sniper rifle). This is my last statement about RR (like it or not, from this post i really dont care about RR because stupid QQs just destroyed finally balanced weapon). I'm trying to get it back to that state! Perhaps you help out? *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 703	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:54:00 - [52] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: CCP should "re-do" all back on "kick-like-mule" CQC state. In that time RR was proper precision rifle (how it was meant, because its stupid to do CQC in something behaving like auto sniper rifle). This is my last statement about RR (like it or not, from this post i really dont care about RR because stupid QQs just destroyed finally balanced weapon). I'm trying to get it back to that state! Perhaps you help out? Im in, if it help. *"In the rust we trust"*
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6055	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:09:00 - [53] - Quote Signed. The kick was a more appropriate nerf than the charge time. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 412	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:22:00 - [54] - Quote Signed. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 382	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:46:00 - [55] - Quote Added and Added *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2266	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:56:00 - [56] - Quote Signed. RR deserves less charge up, and possibly some more kick. But, really, I'd like to see some updated post-hotfix data on the light weapons with respect to K/S and distance (and game mode) before speaking out too strongly on what should or should not be done with the RR.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 382	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:58:00 - [57] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Signed. RR deserves less charge up, and possibly some more kick. But, really, I'd like to see some updated post-hotfix data on the light weapons with respect to K/S and distance (and game mode) before speaking out too strongly on what should or should not be done with the RR. Added *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 170	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:06:00 - [58] - Quote I don't really care about the RR (I use the ARR) But I think the charge is so big... I sign the petition to help the community. Even if I don't wanna a bigger kick, just less charge. CCP logical is very strange... Wait & see.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 382	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:14:00 - [59] - Quote Added. *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 387	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:51:00 - [60] - Quote Hello 1st page! *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*

Bayeth Mal Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1883	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:20:00 - [61] - Quote +1 I just thought the kick was cartoonishly silly looking. But if that's what it takes to get it out of CQC then so be it. I don't mind the charge time so long as the bullets actually hurt and ADS kick is negligible. We'll bang, OK?
S-PANZA Expert Intervention Caldari State 97	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:27:00 - [62] - Quote RR is unusable in current state. Unless you want to be handicapped.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 390	Posted - 2014.11.22 01:59:00 - [63] - Quote Added and Added. If I'm right we just have 80 people to go before this thread gets a dev tag! Rattati should show up around then. *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
Espla El espia Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.11.22 03:13:00 - [64] - Quote I'm hoping the RR gets the delay smooshed down to at least 0.45s, because 0.6 just eliminates burst firing entirely.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 392	Posted - 2014.11.22 03:16:00 - [65] - Quote Espla El espia wrote: I'm hoping the RR gets the delay smooshed down to at least 0.45s, because 0.6 just eliminates burst firing entirely. I'll mark you as signed... *"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."*
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 397	Posted - 2014.11.22 06:35:00 - [66] - Quote Hello again top spot! What? I'm just a Raven.
Ananke Gaia 5	Posted - 2014.11.22 09:15:00 - [67] - Quote Ya sign me up so we can have a usable RR again.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 408	Posted - 2014.11.22 18:24:00 - [68] - Quote Ananke Gaia wrote: Ya sign me up so we can have a usable RR again. Adding your name now! AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.
Dubber Rucky 15	Posted - 2014.11.22 18:42:00 - [69] - Quote why not just add sharp shooter skill like the AR and CR?
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 409	Posted - 2014.11.22 18:44:00 - [70] - Quote Dubber Rucky wrote: why not just add sharp shooter skill like the AR and CR? Because it already has range... This is for spool/charge time reduction... AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.

Dubber Rucky 15	Posted - 2014.11.22 18:56:00 - [71] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Dubber Rucky wrote: why not just add sharp shooter skill like the AR and CR? Because it already has range... This is for spool/charge time reduction... Charge time reduction would be nice.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 411	Posted - 2014.11.22 19:03:00 - [72] - Quote Dubber Rucky wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Dubber Rucky wrote: why not just add sharp shooter skill like the AR and CR? Because it already has range... This is for spool/charge time reduction... Charge time reduction would be nice. I'll take that as 'signed' AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 411	Posted - 2014.11.22 21:19:00 - [73] - Quote Bump AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.
Wolf revenant Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 15	Posted - 2014.11.22 22:24:00 - [74] - Quote signed
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 413	Posted - 2014.11.22 23:14:00 - [75] - Quote Wolf revenant wrote: signed Thanks and adding name now BUMP AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 415	Posted - 2014.11.23 05:18:00 - [76] - Quote Bump AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2126	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:00:00 - [77] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Dubber Rucky wrote: why not just add sharp shooter skill like the AR and CR? Because it already has range... This is for spool/charge time reduction... /slap Sharpshooter reduces kick and dispersion at 5% per level. Didn't you get the memo? It stopped working like that back in Chromo. I Live for Tears
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 416	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:06:00 - [78] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Dubber Rucky wrote: why not just add sharp shooter skill like the AR and CR? Because it already has range... This is for spool/charge time reduction... /slap Sharpshooter reduces kick and dispersion at 5% per level. Didn't you get the memo? It stopped working like that back in Chromo. Sorry, I'm not really a AR user (Yet I have duvolles) Perhaps RR gets a Rifleman skill to reduce charge time by 0.05s? Or whatever puts it around .25s charge at maxed. I want a 0.35 personally. You going to sign Meeko? AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.
Bone Scratcher Wirykomi Wolf Pack 100	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:13:00 - [79] - Quote Signed. o/ Wirykomi Wolf Pack Director Lag Compensation Explained
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2126	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:15:00 - [80] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Dubber Rucky wrote: why not just add sharp shooter skill like the AR and CR? Because it already has range... This is for spool/charge time reduction... /slap Sharpshooter reduces kick and dispersion at 5% per level. Didn't you get the memo? It stopped working like that back in Chromo. Sorry, I'm not really a AR user (Yet I have duvolles) Perhaps RR gets a Rifleman skill to reduce charge time by 0.05s? Or whatever puts it around .25s charge at maxed. I want a 0.35 personally. You going to sign Meeko? I think its should be changed VERY slightly. To .5 Sec, w/ a Skill that reduces charge by 3% per level (Charge Management?). And while I feel its not very necessary (I feel its workable in its current state), I'll sign for the hell of it. I Live for Tears

sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 425	Posted - 2014.11.23 06:27:00 - [81] - Quote Adding now and also I agree with Meeko for the most part. I think it should be placed at .45 with a skill for reducing spool time Rail Weapon Mastery (Reduces charge time of all Rail weaponry, yes the Magsec too... heh Magsec might become a FotM if that happens... meh) AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 425	Posted - 2014.11.23 17:48:00 - [82] - Quote bump for more people to come in and sign AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 658	Posted - 2014.11.23 20:25:00 - [83] - Quote Signed Lonewolf till I die
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 429	Posted - 2014.11.23 20:28:00 - [84] - Quote Been a while since I last saw you HDHKM. AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 438	Posted - 2014.11.24 01:28:00 - [85] - Quote Back on the first page! AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 443	Posted - 2014.11.24 05:19:00 - [86] - Quote oops, I bumped into this thread... AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 450	Posted - 2014.11.24 12:26:00 - [87] - Quote Come on, the RR needs to live, not be forgotten as the useless Caldari weapon. Sign! AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 669	Posted - 2014.11.24 15:20:00 - [88] - Quote +1 Saw a CPM request on info at one point asking about changes to CalAss bonuses. Hopefully it'll get charge and kick reduction. That would help a lot. The base charge time and hipfire kick need toned down though so other suits will be able to use it at all.
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 8	Posted - 2014.11.24 15:58:00 - [89] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... When you sign your name is added to the list. Signed sir RAVEN WING. Zatara Rought. Stupid Blueberry. (?) Fox Gaden. Union118. i gots kills. Luna McDuffing. Songs of Seraphim. Auris Lionesse. Mike Ox Bigger. al nize mk2. Egonz4. Arkena Wyrnspire. postapo wastelander. One Eyed King. 2Berries. Leadfoot10. Killer's Coys. Bayeth Mal. S-PANZA. Espla El espia. Ananke Gaia. Dubber Rucky. Wolf revenant. Meeko Fent. Bone Scratcher. HOWDIDHEKILLME. Scrub campers...
Vesta Opalus Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 200	Posted - 2014.11.24 16:00:00 - [90] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? Its fine. Man, I run Standard RR on my Standard CalSalt, and I go 16/10. Its fine. Stop with your silly manchildness. Since when is 16/10 good? Thats some scrubby ass **** right there.

Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 283	Posted - 2014.11.24 16:57:00 - [91] - Quote FIX THE RAIL RIFLE! I can't hit anything long or short range with it because the recoil is insanely high! Apparently the only way to play this game now is by using Assault Rifles since they are the only thing that isn't complete garbage at the moment! The State will always survive.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 452	Posted - 2014.11.24 17:55:00 - [92] - Quote added AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
Spec Trinity Daricle 3	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:28:00 - [93] - Quote How do I sign?
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 455	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:32:00 - [94] - Quote Just put 'signed' But what you did was close enough! AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 455	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:33:00 - [95] - Quote Also congrats you are the 30th person to sign, you get a like! AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
Spec Trinity Daricle 3	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:36:00 - [96] - Quote Yaay.. My second like! ^-^
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 455	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:39:00 - [97] - Quote Spec Trinity wrote: Yaay.. My second like! ^-^ You'll probably get likes faster than I did, I had 47 likes when I first came into GD and now I am at 455! Likes are easy to get in GD, Dries Shadow Weaver basically hands them out :p AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19344	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:44:00 - [98] - Quote I always find it amusing to watch the little forumites talk excitedly about likes. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. RATTATI WHERE IS MY DUEL
Spec Trinity Daricle 4	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:47:00 - [99] - Quote 19k.... How..?
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 455	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:47:00 - [100] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I always find it amusing to watch the little forumites talk excitedly about likes. Spec seems to enjoy getting likes so meh... I don't care really, but 47 to 455 in about a month... meh. :p AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.

Mad Kras Made in Poland... E-R-A 34	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:48:00 - [101] - Quote Never really liked RR but I agree that they're kinda trash right now. I miss my ScR vs. RR fights. *glitches are for btches arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5**
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 455	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:55:00 - [102] - Quote Spec Trinity wrote: 19k.... How..? I think the person with the most is 25k likes. If I really cared about likes I would try to get 10k, but I don't really care. (Also some use like farms) AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 455	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:56:00 - [103] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: Never really liked RR but I agree that they're kinda trash right now. I miss my ScR vs. RR fights. Adding now. AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
Ku Shala The Generals 1025	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:04:00 - [104] - Quote +1 *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist *Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19344	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:08:00 - [105] - Quote Spec Trinity wrote: 19k.... How..? Absurd amounts of no lifing on the forums over 2 years. I have a lifetime average of something like 20 posts a day, although that's tailed off a lot in recent months, and some of the threads I used to write were truly mighty. Sometimes, I acquired over 1,000 across a single thread. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. RATTATI WHERE IS MY DUEL
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5940	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:10:00 - [106] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... When you sign your name is added to the list. Signed sir RAVEN WING. Zatara Rought. Stupid Blueberry. (?) Fox Gaden. Union118. i gots kills. Luna McDuffing. Songs of Seraphim. Auris Lionesse. Mike Ox Bigger. al nize mk2. Egonz4. Arkena Wyrnspire. postapo wastelander. One Eyed King. 2Berries. Leadfoot10. Killer's Coys. Bayeth Mal. S-PANZA. Espla El espia. Ananke Gaia. Dubber Rucky. Wolf revenant. Meeko Fent. Bone Scratcher. HOWDIDHEKILLME. zzZaXxx. Bahiraeb Serugiusu. Spec Trinity. Ku Shala. Im currently running a ck.0. I love it and i love RR's. BUT, more kick is not what i'd prefer TBQH.....Unless it comes in hand with a LOT less dispersion and better hipfire. ACtually, the Ishukune ARR actually needs a recoil reduction... The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 455	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:10:00 - [107] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Spec Trinity wrote: 19k.... How..? Absurd amounts of no lifing on the forums over 2 years. I have a lifetime average of something like 20 posts a day, although that's tailed off a lot in recent months, and some of the threads I used to write were truly mighty. Sometimes, I acquired over 1,000 across a single thread. You call 20 posts a day no lifing? Try around 70 a day. AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK Direct Action Resources 227	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:13:00 - [108] - Quote Signed. The One And Only
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19345	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:13:00 - [109] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Spec Trinity wrote: 19k.... How..? Absurd amounts of no lifing on the forums over 2 years. I have a lifetime average of something like 20 posts a day, although that's tailed off a lot in recent months, and some of the threads I used to write were truly mighty. Sometimes, I acquired over 1,000 across a single thread. You call 20 posts a day no lifing? Try around 70 a day. I've not seen anyone able to keep up a consistent rate of posting like that. Yours is 5.2, although I suppose you're referring to your recent postings. I think 20 ppd average over a period of 2 years is rather no-lifey, yes, considering that maintaining an average like that would necessarily include massive posting sprees. I believe my record is almost 200. Look at me, arguing about how nerdy I am! You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. RATTATI WHERE IS MY DUEL
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 455	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:13:00 - [110] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... When you sign your name is added to the list. Signed sir RAVEN WING. Zatara Rought. Stupid Blueberry. (?) Fox Gaden. Union118. i gots kills. Luna McDuffing. Songs of Seraphim. Auris Lionesse. Mike Ox Bigger. al nize mk2. Egonz4. Arkena Wyrnspire. postapo wastelander. One Eyed King. 2Berries. Leadfoot10. Killer's Coys. Bayeth Mal. S-PANZA. Espla El espia. Ananke Gaia. Dubber Rucky. Wolf revenant. Meeko Fent. Bone Scratcher. HOWDIDHEKILLME. zzZaXxx. Bahiraeb Serugiusu. Spec Trinity. Ku Shala. I'm currently running a ck.0. I love it and i love RR's. BUT, more kick is not what i'd prefer TBQH.....Unless it comes in hand with a LOT less dispersion and better hipfire. ACtually, the Ishukone ARR actually needs a recoil reduction... The reason I said more kick is because at lvl 5 RR skill you have 25% less kick, which is manageable. AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.

sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 455	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:18:00 - [111] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Spec Trinity wrote: 19k.... How..? Absurd amounts of no lifing on the forums over 2 years. I have a lifetime average of something like 20 posts a day, although that's tailed off a lot in recent months, and some of the threads I used to write were truly mighty. Sometimes, I acquired over 1,000 across a single thread. You call 20 posts a day no lifing? Try around 70 a day. I've not seen anyone able to keep up a consistent rate of posting like that. Yours is 5.2, although I suppose you're referring to your recent postings. I think 20 ppd average over a period of 2 years is rather no-lifey, yes, considering that maintaining an average like that would necessarily include massive posting sprees. I believe my record is almost 200. Look at me, arguing about how nerdy I am! I had posted around 127 times in one night (In IGS too!) first time I got 100 flags (If I go to sleep now I usually come back to around 235 flags) IGS seems rather dead now, I don't know if it was always like that or if it just died off... kinda sad because that's the first forum I went to. Also how did you get 5.2? AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19346	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:25:00 - [112] - Quote I got it off your forum statistics page. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. RATTATI WHERE IS MY DUEL
Mad Kras Made in Poland... E-R-A 36	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:31:00 - [113] - Quote Signed *glitches are for btches arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5**
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 456	Posted - 2014.11.24 20:54:00 - [114] - Quote Added and bumped AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2140	Posted - 2014.11.24 23:39:00 - [115] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? Its fine. Man, I run Standard RR on my Standard CalSalt, and I go 16/10. Its fine. Stop with your silly manchildness. In what world is 16/10 "fine"? In what world is 13/2 considered average? I Live for Tears
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1848	Posted - 2014.11.24 23:48:00 - [116] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Its fine. Man, I run Standard RR on my Standard CalSalt, and I go 16/10. Its fine. Stop with your silly manchildness. In what world is 16/10 "fine"? In what world is 13/2 considered average? In "My d!ck is bigger than yours" world and/or "I'm a coward so I'm going to hang back from fights so people don't shoot me" world. The latter being the world I live in when I play dust. Kills:21, Deaths:5, KDR: time for a smoke. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Phvtvre Doom BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2014.11.25 00:38:00 - [117] - Quote Signed.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 409	Posted - 2014.11.25 00:40:00 - [118] - Quote /signed Only loyal to the republic.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4765	Posted - 2014.11.25 02:33:00 - [119] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Add some kick and lower the charge. Sign if you agree... "Everything has an end", and you gotta move on. How about we nerf your weapon to oblivion? The AR is already at the bottom of the pile. The AR is fine. The basic one is very average, but the breach, burst and tac are in a very good place right now. Lol no, they're not. As for the more kick less charge... Lol to that as well. More kick will reduce it's long range capabilities as well because you won't be able to aim worth a damn. Leave kick as is. Reduce Aim-Down-Sights Kick. Slightly Reduce Hipfire Kick. Add spool time bonus for Caldari Assault.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 460	Posted - 2014.11.25 02:58:00 - [120] - Quote I've stated many times why the original idea was increased kicked and reduced charge. There are ways to use kick to your advantage, however there are only disadvantages to spool time. A skill reduced spool time would be nice for the Caldari Assault, but kick can be reduced via the RR skill. AND I BACKED THE FUCK DOWN.


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 12018	Posted - 2014.11.25 03:03:00 - [121] - Quote This is happening charge 0.45 a wider kick angle in hip fire kisk direction kick "length" and buildup between tweak 1 and 2 (2 being current) ARR will not inherit these numbers and be more accurate in hip fire, charge at 0.3 as before, a little worse in ADS, better while hip firing. It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 460	Posted - 2014.11.25 03:08:00 - [122] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is happening charge 0.45 a wider kick angle in hip fire kisk direction kick "length" and buildup between tweak 1 and 2 (2 being current) ARR will not inherit these numbers and be more accurate in hip fire, charge at 0.3 as before, a little worse in ADS, better while hip firing. It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. Well you're about 60 'signed earlier than I thought. Glad to hear the charge will be less. Also Rattati finally noticed me... well my thread anyway :p. DO NOT IGNORE MY SIG!
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4879	Posted - 2014.11.25 04:04:00 - [123] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is happening charge 0.45 a wider kick angle in hip fire kisk direction kick "length" and buildup between tweak 1 and 2 (2 being current) ARR will not inherit these numbers and be more accurate in hip fire, charge at 0.3 as before, a little worse in ADS, better while hip firing. It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. Progress! Founder & CEO Fatal Absolution Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought Strive. No mattter what
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 700	Posted - 2014.11.25 04:22:00 - [124] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is happening charge 0.45 a wider kick angle in hip fire kisk direction kick "length" and buildup between tweak 1 and 2 (2 being current) ARR will not inherit these numbers and be more accurate in hip fire, charge at 0.3 as before, a little worse in ADS, better while hip firing. It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. Can we somehow keep the reload bonus as well?
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6060	Posted - 2014.11.25 04:25:00 - [125] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is happening charge 0.45 a wider kick angle in hip fire kisk direction kick "length" and buildup between tweak 1 and 2 (2 being current) ARR will not inherit these numbers and be more accurate in hip fire, charge at 0.3 as before, a little worse in ADS, better while hip firing. It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. Yes! Common sense! Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Jack the Rlpper Fearless Infinity 14	Posted - 2014.11.25 04:29:00 - [126] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is happening charge 0.45 a wider kick angle in hip fire kisk direction kick "length" and buildup between tweak 1 and 2 (2 being current) ARR will not inherit these numbers and be more accurate in hip fire, charge at 0.3 as before, a little worse in ADS, better while hip firing. It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. Hey CCP I have spent $140.00 on aurum getting respecs each time and each time i get the respec and use it i get dc'd after spending my sp into what i want and when i come back on all the sp is in totally different things i would like my $140.00 worth aur refunded so I can try to get my respec and spend my sp again and hope it does not mess up I dont want to have bad service with you guys after investing so much and writing so many tickets and still nothing yet.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10308	Posted - 2014.11.25 05:27:00 - [127] - Quote Jack the Rlpper wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is happening charge 0.45 a wider kick angle in hip fire kisk direction kick "length" and buildup between tweak 1 and 2 (2 being current) ARR will not inherit these numbers and be more accurate in hip fire, charge at 0.3 as before, a little worse in ADS, better while hip firing. It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. Hey CCP I have spent $140.00 on aurum getting respecs each time and each time i get the respec and use it i get dc'd after spending my sp into what i want and when i come back on all the sp is in totally different things i would like my $140.00 worth aur refunded so I can try to get my respec and spend my sp again and hope it does not mess up I dont want to have bad service with you guys after investing so much and writing so many tickets and still nothing yet. 1. Wrong thread. Your comment belongs in the technical support/bugs section. 2. Did you submit a petition already? 3. CCP Rattati doesn't deal with technical support if I recall correctly. That is the job of the GMs. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4880	Posted - 2014.11.25 05:27:00 - [128] - Quote I still think .45 seconds will prove to be pretty long. TTK on an assault suit takes about 2 seconds on average i'd guess. Factor in that you can't start shooting at the dude that began shooting you until you're already almost down 25% of your tank. Just an observation. .15 seconds feel like a lot in a 1v1. Founder & CEO Fatal Absolution Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought Strive. No mattter what
manboar thunder fist Dead Man's Game RUST415 273	Posted - 2014.11.25 05:39:00 - [129] - Quote Agreed on charge time, just keep the dispersion high after half way through a clip instead of all the time "If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 464	Posted - 2014.11.25 05:42:00 - [130] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: I still think .45 seconds will prove to be pretty long. TTK on an assault suit takes about 2 seconds on average i'd guess. Factor in that you can't start shooting at the dude that began shooting you until you're already almost down 25% of your tank. Just an observation. .15 seconds feel like a lot in a 1v1. 0.3 seemed fine, 0.45 shouldn't be too bad. I just don't know about 0.15, feels wrong to me, but that's just my opinion. DO NOT IGNORE MY SIG!

Ekrano Fergus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.11.25 05:54:00 - [131] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. I kind of think a charge time reduction bonus would be better. /)_/) ( . .) C(") (")
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19371	Posted - 2014.11.25 07:06:00 - [132] - Quote Ekrano Fergus wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. I kind of think a charge time reduction bonus would be better. I am inclined to suggest a mix of both. Though not some of the ridiculous numbers that some other people were throwing around like 20% reduction per level. More like 5%. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Glorious pink victory has been achieved.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2306	Posted - 2014.11.25 07:13:00 - [133] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is happening charge 0.45 a wider kick angle in hip fire kisk direction kick "length" and buildup between tweak 1 and 2 (2 being current) ARR will not inherit these numbers and be more accurate in hip fire, charge at 0.3 as before, a little worse in ADS, better while hip firing. It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. Bravo!
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 440	Posted - 2014.11.25 07:13:00 - [134] - Quote i'l sign. More charge hurts long range fights the RR is meant for: ,kick discourages hippfire circle strafing. Kick is manageable, charge just gives the enemy time to find cover in between bursts. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 467	Posted - 2014.11.25 07:56:00 - [135] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: i'l sign. More charge hurts long range fights the RR is meant for: ,kick discourages hippfire circle strafing. Kick is manageable, charge just gives the enemy time to find cover in between bursts. Well kinda already got the word that we would get reduced charge time... Here have a like instead! DO NOT IGNORE MY SIG!
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2743	Posted - 2014.11.25 08:14:00 - [136] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: I still think .45 seconds will prove to be pretty long. TTK on an assault suit takes about 2 seconds on average i'd guess. Factor in that you can't start shooting at the dude that began shooting you until you're already almost down 25% of your tank. Just an observation. .15 seconds feel like a lot in a 1v1. I kind of feel the same way. It was .25 from the start, moved to .3, doubled to .6, now reduced by 25% to .45, though in truth it was increased by 50% before this whole thing happened. I am curious if the range, high damage per hit, and high kick will still keep it from being quite competitive with a .45 charge. Still, it can be looked at and if kick and dispersion is used to balance the weapon then perhaps charge can be lowered again. It is the delay to shoot that makes the gun less fun to use IMO. I am curious if the ADS kick is going to be changed. I don't know if it is just me but when the kick was quadrupled first, I noticed almost no change to ADS but when the kick was cut to just doubled and the Charge was put to .6 it seemed my ability to ADS was hit because the kick started to affect it pretty heavily. This is especially true with the ARR. If it is going to be worse in ADS than it is now, I am curious what that will look like. I'll still use it because the sound the gun makes and the 'feel of it' is highly pleasing to me. It is the second greatest sound in DUST other than the orgasm crescendo that is the headshot sound. (Seriously, if Legion is released without THAT EXACT SOUND I someone has to release the sound file so we can make that sound go off when getting a headshot) Here's hoping that the Assault bonus helps the weapon out a bit and that the Assault gets some kind of change so it isn't just the worst option between Damage (Commando), Support (Logi), Tank/Damage (Sentinel), and E-war/Speed (Scout). "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1160	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:51:00 - [137] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is happening charge 0.45 a wider kick angle in hip fire kisk direction kick "length" and buildup between tweak 1 and 2 (2 being current) ARR will not inherit these numbers and be more accurate in hip fire, charge at 0.3 as before, a little worse in ADS, better while hip firing. It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. Yay love you btw signed We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC 79	Posted - 2014.11.25 18:23:00 - [138] - Quote Signed *ScReWeD uP InC* *Recruit BPO's Inside*
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8248	Posted - 2014.11.25 18:55:00 - [139] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: I still think .45 seconds will prove to be pretty long. TTK on an assault suit takes about 2 seconds on average i'd guess. Factor in that you can't start shooting at the dude that began shooting you until you're already almost down 25% of your tank. Just an observation. .15 seconds feel like a lot in a 1v1. Dat 0.6s Nova Knife charge time Trust me, it takes forever. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
idlerowl Old-Type 19	Posted - 2014.11.25 19:15:00 - [140] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is happening charge 0.45 a wider kick angle in hip fire kisk direction kick "length" and buildup between tweak 1 and 2 (2 being current) ARR will not inherit these numbers and be more accurate in hip fire, charge at 0.3 as before, a little worse in ADS, better while hip firing. It very likely that a Caldari Assault bonus will become a Kick reduction bonus. NICE!!! I want caldari reload skill just to leave it . And signed

Charli Chaplin jr F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 23	Posted - 2014.11.26 15:16:00 - [141] - Quote these "nerf/buff" threads are what's killing the game. i had my Rail rifle at fitting optimisation lvl3 but ccp nerfed it. its FINE. get another weapon, you fu*king have 750k sp cap per week and its more than enough to get a proto weapon and get proeffeciency 2. just stop crying about it like a little kid and find something else. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.


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