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lowdevil Savage Bullet 11	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:09:00 - [1] - Quote when you buy a mustang does the dealership come to your house and exchange it with a taurus? I want my 100k LP and 10mil isk back or have a better skilled scout design it. why doesn't anyone consult good players before they build things. A few hours playing with my corp squad and we can teach devs everything that needs changed and how far to go when adjusting fits and weapons. I think the only players that should be listened to are those with 60milion sp like me or at least 50million, there are enough of us. When are the true dust fanatics going to get a say? You actually have to play the game with us so we can give you play by play advice, I've been saying this for years.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 54	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:17:00 - [2] - Quote I bought the scout and logi! I used my money because I didn't have the time to grind! For only having basic equipment the scout was perfect! I want a refund!
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 925	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:19:00 - [3] - Quote What did they change about the APEX Gal Scout? Yep
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 4917	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:20:00 - [4] - Quote The APEX fittings are purposefully sub-par. They are designed that way so a player willing to spend ISK on his own fitting will have an advantage over someone who straight up buys his BPO-proto fitting. Working as intended. My advice to you, playa...
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1973	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:23:00 - [5] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: The APEX fittings are purposefully sub-par. They are designed that way so a player willing to spend ISK on his own fitting will have an advantage over someone who straight up buys his BPO-proto fitting. Working as intended. ideally they need to be 1/2 the cost.. cause no newbro will buy the apex suits for aur and wont get a chance to get the LP/isk for the LP store one.. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1973	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:25:00 - [6] - Quote lowdevil wrote: when you buy a mustang does the dealership come to your house and exchange it with a taurus? I want my 100k LP and 10mil isk back or have a better skilled scout design it. why doesn't anyone consult good players before they build things. A few hours playing with my corp squad and we can teach devs everything that needs changed and how far to go when adjusting fits and weapons. I think the only players that should be listened to are those with 60milion sp like me or at least 50million, there are enough of us. When are the true dust fanatics going to get a say? You actually have to play the game with us so we can give you play by play advice, I've been saying this for years. pretty much my reaction... -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M <- [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 925	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:27:00 - [7] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: The APEX fittings are purposefully sub-par. They are designed that way so a player willing to spend ISK on his own fitting will have an advantage over someone who straight up buys his BPO-proto fitting. Working as intended. ideally they need to be 1/2 the cost.. cause no newbro will buy the apex suits for aur and wont get a chance to get the LP/isk for the LP store one.. Yep. I keep saying this, but whatever. Forget the newbro, they are vanity items for vets who like a large wardrobe. Since it only takes time (instead of RL money) to obtain the LP variants I am a fan. But if they are designed with newbros in mind..... that's another CCP fail I'm afraid! Yep
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 4918	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:28:00 - [8] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Ideally they need to be 1/2 the cost.. cause no newbro will buy the apex suits for aur and wont get a chance to get the LP/isk for the LP store one.. Agreed, at least the LP cost needs to be halved, if not ISK too. My advice to you, playa...
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1974	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:31:00 - [9] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Ideally they need to be 1/2 the cost.. cause no newbro will buy the apex suits for aur and wont get a chance to get the LP/isk for the LP store one.. Agreed, at least the LP cost needs to be halved, if not ISK too. agree.. a nice 5m and 50k LP would be good for the apex suits... and hell i would pay 5m and 50k LP just for a goddamned Standard sever suit for myself that i can fit myself to minmax the hell out of it!.. and the same for my alts (race/suit dependent, ie raven-> caldari, valor-> galente.) this brings more people to FW and is a double isk sink cause players are not earning isk but also spending isk... they are also bringing more corpses.. err players to Factionwar to get it going too! [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
lowdevil Savage Bullet 12	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:33:00 - [10] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: The APEX fittings are purposefully sub-par. They are designed that way so a player willing to spend ISK on his own fitting will have an advantage over someone who straight up buys his BPO-proto fitting. Working as intended. spend a week grinding or $30 on a sub par suit??? just cause it looks good doesn't mean it can't work good. I like the basic modules, there you go, not a pay to win proto; buuuuuttt it still should work well for what it is. the first fit was the best.

Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 928	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:39:00 - [11] - Quote lowdevil wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: The APEX fittings are purposefully sub-par. They are designed that way so a player willing to spend ISK on his own fitting will have an advantage over someone who straight up buys his BPO-proto fitting. Working as intended. spend a week grinding or $30 on a sub par suit??? just cause it looks good doesn't mean it can't work good. I like the basic modules, there you go, not a pay to win proto; buuuuuttt it still should work well for what it is. the first fit was the best. Again.... What did they change?! Help others make more informed decisions. Yep
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3224	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:42:00 - [12] - Quote I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes. Yes, we should have the ability to edit suit with other STD level stuff if we want.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 56	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:56:00 - [13] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: The APEX fittings are purposefully sub-par. They are designed that way so a player willing to spend ISK on his own fitting will have an advantage over someone who straight up buys his BPO-proto fitting. Working as intended. No kidding! You don't say! The fact that it only had BASIC modules didn't tip you off? Its basically a super basic suit.
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 929	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:57:00 - [14] - Quote shaman oga wrote: I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes. What changes? Never mind. THESE ARE THE CHANGES: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z1CMTB8EENPSVnVqpZJ067DoZTjCMunWI-GuGNwgOK0/edit#gid=424301522 (easy to see because they are highlighted in red) Yep
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 56	Posted - 2014.11.18 17:59:00 - [15] - Quote As the suit was it was tolerable for what they had but you can't even change anything on the suit!
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 929	Posted - 2014.11.18 18:00:00 - [16] - Quote I like the changes to the Min Commando, now I will get one Most of the changes are fairly reasonable I guess. Yep
jace silencerww Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 91	Posted - 2014.11.18 18:00:00 - [17] - Quote shaman oga wrote: I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes. Yes, we should have the ability to edit suit with other STD level stuff if we want. true but CCP does not have the ability yet to limit editing on some suit. that is why they can not do a match making with limits like basic/militia gear only battles, adv gear or less battles, and all gear battles. yes that means tanks mods too and the ads would be proto battles only. besides if your new top dust you would buy the APEX while vets see its and most will grind for LP suits. I have seem the new tiger scout already and saw the LP gal scout the first day they were out. so the suits work as they are mean to. help new players by have a proto bpo suit while not give they an huge advantage and vets have a bpo proto suit with the bonuses (sp skills) helping the suit even more. it is a fair and balanced suits. if you don't like them and wanted a refund try putting in a ticket to see if ccp can do it.
Supernus Gigas The Cooked Goose Coalition 974	Posted - 2014.11.18 18:03:00 - [18] - Quote Seriously, what about them did CCP change? WHY WON'T ANYONE SAY? *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 929	Posted - 2014.11.18 18:09:00 - [19] - Quote -deleted- Yep
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3224	Posted - 2014.11.18 18:11:00 - [20] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: shaman oga wrote: I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes. Yes, we should have the ability to edit suit with other STD level stuff if we want. true but CCP does not have the ability yet to limit editing on some suit. that is why they can not do a match making with limits like basic/militia gear only battles, adv gear or less battles, and all gear battles. yes that means tanks mods too and the ads would be proto battles only. besides if your new top dust you would buy the APEX while vets see its and most will grind for LP suits. I have seem the new tiger scout already and saw the LP gal scout the first day they were out. so the suits work as they are mean to. help new players by have a proto bpo suit while not give they an huge advantage and vets have a bpo proto suit with the bonuses (sp skills) helping the suit even more. it is a fair and balanced suits. if you don't like them and wanted a refund try putting in a ticket to see if ccp can do it. I haven't bought gal scout, the fitting it had was perfect for me, now it's completely another thing, i don't care about ion pistol or smg, i'm talking about modules and equipments. They can restrict each slot to a certain meta level and problem is solved.

Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 73	Posted - 2014.11.18 18:49:00 - [21] - Quote shaman oga wrote: jace silencerww wrote: shaman oga wrote: I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes. Yes, we should have the ability to edit suit with other STD level stuff if we want. true but CCP does not have the ability yet to limit editing on some suit. that is why they can not do a match making with limits like basic/militia gear only battles, adv gear or less battles, and all gear battles. yes that means tanks mods too and the ads would be proto battles only. besides if your new top dust you would buy the APEX while vets see its and most will grind for LP suits. I have seem the new tiger scout already and saw the LP gal scout the first day they were out. so the suits work as they are mean to. help new players by have a proto bpo suit while not give they an huge advantage and vets have a bpo proto suit with the bonuses (sp skills) helping the suit even more. it is a fair and balanced suits. if you don't like them and wanted a refund try putting in a ticket to see if ccp can do it. I haven't bought gal scout, the fitting it had was perfect for me, now it's completely another thing, i don't care about ion pistol or smg, i'm talking about modules and equipments. They can restrict each slot to a certain meta level and problem is solved. No kidding. I would not have purchased the Gal Scout in its current form either.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1981	Posted - 2014.11.18 19:06:00 - [22] - Quote shaman oga wrote: I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes. Yes, we should have the ability to edit suit with other STD level stuff if we want. the winmatar apex scout is worth the lp. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1981	Posted - 2014.11.18 19:08:00 - [23] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: Seriously, what about them did CCP change? WHY WON'T ANYONE SAY? SOMEONE FOUND THE CHANGES You also have to keep in mind CCP said very early on that the suits where subject to change. There was an entire feedback thread for them. Now, the ~~changes~~ butchering of the glorious Quafe suits. That was uncalled for and they're are now completely different from what they were initially sold as. Maybe I should submit a ticket for a refund. CCP doesn't seem to eager to change them back. i miss how FABULOUS they were.. soo shiney and destracting that they managed to take gun sights off me as a logi in my slow squishy yellow suit [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 73	Posted - 2014.11.18 19:16:00 - [24] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: shaman oga wrote: I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes. Yes, we should have the ability to edit suit with other STD level stuff if we want. the winmatar apex scout is worth the lp. For now....
Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 73	Posted - 2014.11.18 19:40:00 - [25] - Quote Ok, so here's the thing - I made a purchase because I was satisfied with the product offered. Somebody else thinks they'd like a different variation on the theme and negotiates a different deal. Good for them, but why am I now forced to keep their deal? Changes made post-purchase are underhanded tactics that should be avoided in all cases to maintain trust with the community. I understand that the game belongs to CCP and they can do whatever they like with it, the issue here is trust. Here's hoping they at least allow a trade into a different suit...
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 984	Posted - 2014.11.18 19:49:00 - [26] - Quote Kensai Dragon wrote: Ok, so here's the thing - I made a purchase because I was satisfied with the product offered. Somebody else thinks they'd like a different variation on the theme and negotiates a different deal. Good for them, but why am I now forced to keep their deal? Changes made post-purchase are underhanded tactics that should be avoided in all cases to maintain trust with the community. I understand that the game belongs to CCP and they can do whatever they like with it, the issue here is trust. Here's hoping they at least allow a trade into a different suit... Could you be more specific as to which change(s) you feel was unwarranted? I am looking at the spreadsheet, and I don't see any drastic changes. A few tweaks based on community feedback. I am stoked for the Min Commando changes, but now that the Shaman Logi has been made a tad less squishy, I'm torn. I told myself I would only get one, but now I want the Commando and the Logi. Ah well, back to grinding LP! No Shave November Applies To Your Face Only!!!
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 929	Posted - 2014.11.18 20:14:00 - [27] - Quote Kensai Dragon wrote: Ok, so here's the thing - I made a purchase because I was satisfied with the product offered. Somebody else thinks they'd like a different variation on the theme and negotiates a different deal. Good for them, but why am I now forced to keep their deal? Changes made post-purchase are underhanded tactics that should be avoided in all cases to maintain trust with the community. I understand that the game belongs to CCP and they can do whatever they like with it, the issue here is trust. Here's hoping they at least allow a trade into a different suit... The issue here is misplaced trust! Yep
Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 73	Posted - 2014.11.18 20:16:00 - [28] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: Kensai Dragon wrote: Ok, so here's the thing - I made a purchase because I was satisfied with the product offered. Somebody else thinks they'd like a different variation on the theme and negotiates a different deal. Good for them, but why am I now forced to keep their deal? Changes made post-purchase are underhanded tactics that should be avoided in all cases to maintain trust with the community. I understand that the game belongs to CCP and they can do whatever they like with it, the issue here is trust. Here's hoping they at least allow a trade into a different suit... The issue here is misplaced trust! True, lessons learned...
Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 73	Posted - 2014.11.18 20:25:00 - [29] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Kensai Dragon wrote: Ok, so here's the thing - I made a purchase because I was satisfied with the product offered. Somebody else thinks they'd like a different variation on the theme and negotiates a different deal. Good for them, but why am I now forced to keep their deal? Changes made post-purchase are underhanded tactics that should be avoided in all cases to maintain trust with the community. I understand that the game belongs to CCP and they can do whatever they like with it, the issue here is trust. Here's hoping they at least allow a trade into a different suit... Could you be more specific as to which change(s) you feel was unwarranted? I am looking at the spreadsheet, and I don't see any drastic changes. A few tweaks based on community feedback. I am stoked for the Min Commando changes, but now that the Shaman Logi has been made a tad less squishy, I'm torn. I told myself I would only get one, but now I want the Commando and the Logi. Ah well, back to grinding LP! Moved HP from shield to armor at the sacrifice of profile and a basic 3% light DMG mod Changed SMG to Ion Pistol (I hate that gun) Changed RE to Uplink Combined with coming EWAR and EQ changes, this is a deal breaker for me. I'm usually not in a light/Scout suit. I've run Amarr scout on occasion but that's it. I looked over the spreadsheet (until it was hidden), debated over the variants, and decided on which one I'd like to pursue. The gal seemed decent. I got it right away, probably should have waited because it wasn't until after my purchase that I saw the feedback thread was started. Given its current state I'm sure it works for someone, just not at all what I would have bought.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1910	Posted - 2014.11.18 20:39:00 - [30] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: What did they change about the APEX Gal Scout? put a stupid damage mod on a shotgun took out the remote and put a uplink in. and the biggest was changeing the sub machinegun to a lol ion pistol. i dam sure didn't get this suit for this crap ass loadout. CCP are a buch of noobs when it comes to building suits. KEQ diplomat/ lolromansboat cost more then your whole village

GRIMm grin Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2014.11.18 23:38:00 - [31] - Quote I submitted a ticket for a refund over a week ago the day they came out it didn't say anywhere that you could not change them no reply for over a week a sent a ticket about someone exploiting the game i got a reply in a day or less I am very unhappy with my purchases the scout was the only one that I found even remotely decent (no pun intended) but now it's crap to
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1655	Posted - 2014.11.18 23:50:00 - [32] - Quote Kensai Dragon wrote: Moved HP from shield to armor at the sacrifice of profile and a basic 3% light DMG mod Changed SMG to Ion Pistol (I hate that gun) Changed RE to Uplink Combined with coming EWAR and EQ changes, this is a deal breaker for me. I'm usually not in a light/Scout suit. I've run Amarr scout on occasion but that's it. I looked over the spreadsheet (until it was hidden), debated over the variants, and decided on which one I'd like to pursue. The gal seemed decent. I got it right away, probably should have waited because it wasn't until after my purchase that I saw the feedback thread was started. Given its current state I'm sure it works for someone, just not at all what I would have bought. Waaah they took away the three damps that made me unscannable to all but proto amarr scouts and proto scanners on l5 gallogi's! Waaaah they took away my free remote explosives! Waaaaaah my proto bpo suit isn't a highly advantageous combination of everything toxic within the current dust meta! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Your suit has drawbacks now where it previously didn't, this is intended. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 79	Posted - 2014.11.19 00:48:00 - [33] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Kensai Dragon wrote: Moved HP from shield to armor at the sacrifice of profile and a basic 3% light DMG mod Changed SMG to Ion Pistol (I hate that gun) Changed RE to Uplink Combined with coming EWAR and EQ changes, this is a deal breaker for me. I'm usually not in a light/Scout suit. I've run Amarr scout on occasion but that's it. I looked over the spreadsheet (until it was hidden), debated over the variants, and decided on which one I'd like to pursue. The gal seemed decent. I got it right away, probably should have waited because it wasn't until after my purchase that I saw the feedback thread was started. Given its current state I'm sure it works for someone, just not at all what I would have bought. Waaah they took away the three damps that made me unscannable to all but proto amarr scouts and proto scanners on l5 gallogi's! Waaaah they took away my free remote explosives! Waaaaaah my proto bpo suit isn't a highly advantageous combination of everything toxic within the current dust meta! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Your suit has drawbacks now where it previously didn't, this is intended. Lol, cute The point remains, the principle of the matter remains. You wouldn't want the car dealership to change the options on your car after you took it home already. Wake up one morning to find the heated seats are now cooling seats instead. If that was what you wanted you would have chose that option initially. You'd want a fair deal and keep your purchase, or at least the option of trading for something you actually want.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 56	Posted - 2014.11.19 01:17:00 - [34] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Kensai Dragon wrote: Moved HP from shield to armor at the sacrifice of profile and a basic 3% light DMG mod Changed SMG to Ion Pistol (I hate that gun) Changed RE to Uplink Combined with coming EWAR and EQ changes, this is a deal breaker for me. I'm usually not in a light/Scout suit. I've run Amarr scout on occasion but that's it. I looked over the spreadsheet (until it was hidden), debated over the variants, and decided on which one I'd like to pursue. The gal seemed decent. I got it right away, probably should have waited because it wasn't until after my purchase that I saw the feedback thread was started. Given its current state I'm sure it works for someone, just not at all what I would have bought. Waaah they took away the three damps that made me unscannable to all but proto amarr scouts and proto scanners on l5 gallogi's! Waaaah they took away my free remote explosives! Waaaaaah my proto bpo suit isn't a highly advantageous combination of everything toxic within the current dust meta! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Your suit has drawbacks now where it previously didn't, this is intended. People are pointing out that a product or service was changed after the purchase of which the initial state of the suit may have been the reason for purchase. The suit had downsides already in that everything equipped was basic and you could not change the fitting period. People are voicing they're concern and dissent and you come here to openly mock them? Quit wasting everyone's time and troll someone who has the patience to listen to you.
Aria Gomes Wirykomi Wolf Pack 686	Posted - 2014.11.19 03:40:00 - [35] - Quote The Min Scout changes ain't too bad. But I haven't tried it and I can't try it so I'm going by the paper stats ultimately. One precision enhancer on a Min Scout with maxed eWar is godsend. Tumblr
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 328	Posted - 2014.11.19 05:07:00 - [36] - Quote Whats is the difference between red equipment and green on the spread sheet? The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
BONERBOMB TIGBITTIES THE BONERBOMBS 45	Posted - 2014.11.19 05:26:00 - [37] - Quote Now everyone is bitching because they can have a bpo proto scout but can't Frisbee toss remote explosives around the map? Seems like some people got no gun game at all. I enjoy beverage I manage beverage But mostly enjoy beverage
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2094	Posted - 2014.11.19 05:39:00 - [38] - Quote I'll get the waaaaaaaambulance on the phone. They get changed for balance. And to match their purpose. To be rather ** proto-suits for the guy who thinks that the tag proto means the enemy will not notice the bright yellow you have on. Nothing about them is, or should be, anywhere approaching really proto level quality fits/gear. That would be ridiculously OP, with infinite Protobears coming from CCPs ass. That, and why should I give one half a ** that you have 50 million SP? All that proves is that you're both smart enough to grind ridiculous amounts of games, and dumb enough to let a game take up that much of you're time. You're truly the best we have to offer. Because you wanted to be something you're not. A hero. Do you feel like one now?
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 214	Posted - 2014.11.19 05:44:00 - [39] - Quote oh boo f-ing hoo. There are plenty of us here with lives that could provide better feedback than any 50+mil SP player. Just because you play the game more does not mean you are more entitled to an opinion. Legion Coming Soon(TM)
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2094	Posted - 2014.11.19 05:45:00 - [40] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Kensai Dragon wrote: Moved HP from shield to armor at the sacrifice of profile and a basic 3% light DMG mod Changed SMG to Ion Pistol (I hate that gun) Changed RE to Uplink Combined with coming EWAR and EQ changes, this is a deal breaker for me. I'm usually not in a light/Scout suit. I've run Amarr scout on occasion but that's it. I looked over the spreadsheet (until it was hidden), debated over the variants, and decided on which one I'd like to pursue. The gal seemed decent. I got it right away, probably should have waited because it wasn't until after my purchase that I saw the feedback thread was started. Given its current state I'm sure it works for someone, just not at all what I would have bought. Waaah they took away the three damps that made me unscannable to all but proto amarr scouts and proto scanners on l5 gallogi's! Waaaah they took away my free remote explosives! Waaaaaah my proto bpo suit isn't a highly advantageous combination of everything toxic within the current dust meta! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Your suit has drawbacks now where it previously didn't, this is intended. People are pointing out that a product or service was changed after the purchase of which the initial state of the suit may have been the reason for purchase. The suit had downsides already in that everything equipped was basic and you could not change the fitting period. People are voicing they're concern and dissent and you come here to openly mock them? Quit wasting everyone's time and troll someone who has the patience to listen to you. You agreed to that. If you weren't knuckle-headed, and realized any online game has a clause allowing the developers free roam over the game regardless of if was for money or not is a bit naive. Read the terms and conditions next time. This isn't a toaster or a car. If we used you're logic, nothing OP in EVE could be nerfed, because I put money into the game so they can't Change it unless I like it. Because you wanted to be something you're not. A hero. Do you feel like one now?

SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 215	Posted - 2014.11.19 05:50:00 - [41] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: What did they change about the APEX Gal Scout? put a stupid damage mod on a shotgun took out the remote and put a uplink in. and the biggest was changeing the sub machinegun to a lol ion pistol. i dam sure didn't get this suit for this crap ass loadout. CCP are a buch of noobs when it comes to building suits. maybe itll teach you 'noobs' to use the damn uplinks instead of running around with your heads cut off expecting a spawn to magically appear near where you died. Unless you play ambush, in which case, you a special kind of stupid Pffft....... Proto Suits lol
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2094	Posted - 2014.11.19 05:52:00 - [42] - Quote This space blank for reasons. Because you wanted to be something you're not. A hero. Do you feel like one now?
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game RUST415 806	Posted - 2014.11.19 05:58:00 - [43] - Quote There should be no free remote explosives. Don't you realise links are better not just for your own score but also your teams chances of winning. I'm honestly sick of coming top on my team cause I'm the only ****** on my side who knows what a link is and how to use them.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 216	Posted - 2014.11.19 05:59:00 - [44] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: There should be no free remote explosives. Don't you realise links are better not just for your own score but also your teams chances of winning. I'm honestly sick of coming top on my team cause I'm the only ****** on my side who knows what a link is and how to use them. yay i found someone with a brain I have uplinks in every scout fitting I have minus one. and i need to fix that Pffft....... Proto Suits lol
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game RUST415 807	Posted - 2014.11.19 06:20:00 - [45] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: boba's fetta wrote: There should be no free remote explosives. Don't you realise links are better not just for your own score but also your teams chances of winning. I'm honestly sick of coming top on my team cause I'm the only ****** on my side who knows what a link is and how to use them. yay i found someone with a brain I have uplinks in every scout fitting I have minus one. and i need to fix that I only ever use a scout to drop uplinks. I don't use it for anything eles. Its the first suit I use and I also use it if I'm dropping links behind enemy lines. Aside from that I use an amarr logi for links.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 219	Posted - 2014.11.19 06:22:00 - [46] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: boba's fetta wrote: There should be no free remote explosives. Don't you realise links are better not just for your own score but also your teams chances of winning. I'm honestly sick of coming top on my team cause I'm the only ****** on my side who knows what a link is and how to use them. yay i found someone with a brain I have uplinks in every scout fitting I have minus one. and i need to fix that I only ever use a scout to drop uplinks. I don't use it for anything eles. Its the first suit I use and I also use it if I'm dropping links behind enemy lines. Aside from that I use an amarr logi for links. nice. I use a scout for just that, a scout. Uplinks + Precision Enhancers + Range extenders. no one on my squad ever has to waste a slot on an active scanner. Pffft....... Proto Suits lol
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game RUST415 807	Posted - 2014.11.19 06:28:00 - [47] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: boba's fetta wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: boba's fetta wrote: There should be no free remote explosives. Don't you realise links are better not just for your own score but also your teams chances of winning. I'm honestly sick of coming top on my team cause I'm the only ****** on my side who knows what a link is and how to use them. yay i found someone with a brain I have uplinks in every scout fitting I have minus one. and i need to fix that I only ever use a scout to drop uplinks. I don't use it for anything eles. Its the first suit I use and I also use it if I'm dropping links behind enemy lines. Aside from that I use an amarr logi for links. nice. I use a scout for just that, a scout. Uplinks + Precision Enhancers + Range extenders. no one on my squad ever has to waste a slot on an active scanner. I'm not skilled enough into scout to use it for that role. I'm actually a fat suit user. From the minmando to amarr sentinal. I started using link because of the awful places people drop links and expect fat suits to be able to use them. Places like pipes instead of the girders around them.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 221	Posted - 2014.11.19 06:31:00 - [48] - Quote seen that. people so focused on protecting the uplink for their WP that they inconvenience 10-20 players Pffft....... Proto Suits lol Adv Omni Merc is the way to go
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1647	Posted - 2014.11.19 08:47:00 - [49] - Quote so they add a precision enhancer to amarr assault but remove the amp. FAIL
PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2235	Posted - 2014.11.19 10:09:00 - [50] - Quote So i dont get a say cause i have 23mil SP? Would have at least 35mil had i not have to switch accounts but anyway, there are some good players that know what there talking about that dont have that much. Unless my math is terrible which it usually is, if you been playing for two years shouldn't you have more then 60mil? PSN Sil4ntChaozz *Ninja Scout. [Pistol Knife SMG Shotgun]* Think Plan>Determination

PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2235	Posted - 2014.11.19 10:16:00 - [51] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: boba's fetta wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: boba's fetta wrote: There should be no free remote explosives. Don't you realise links are better not just for your own score but also your teams chances of winning. I'm honestly sick of coming top on my team cause I'm the only **** on my side who knows what a link is and how to use them. yay i found someone with a brain I have uplinks in every scout fitting I have minus one. and i need to fix that I only ever use a scout to drop uplinks. I don't use it for anything eles. Its the first suit I use and I also use it if I'm dropping links behind enemy lines. Aside from that I use an amarr logi for links. nice. I use a scout for just that, a scout. Uplinks + Precision Enhancers + Range extenders. no one on my squad ever has to waste a slot on an active scanner. I always carry R-9 & REs on my scout. Gk.0 two complex damp two ADV range two ADV precision no need for scanner. I usually only engage if i have advantage or if i just dont like the guy. My role Scanner HVT Demo my favorite Distraction PSN Sil4ntChaozz Ninja Scout. [Pistol Knife SMG Shotgun]** Think Plan>Determination
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2514	Posted - 2014.11.19 12:16:00 - [52] - Quote I honestly don't know what CCP were thinking with these Apex suits. They are clearly not geared towards new players and they really should make up their minds with the fits. NO - Better yet, allow them to be fit with any standard modules of a players choosing. I'm seeing forge gun sentinels with pistol sidearms. I don't think I need to tell you why that is a bad idea. I mean most of the fits are bad ideas. LOLCCP "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5924	Posted - 2014.11.19 13:00:00 - [53] - Quote lowdevil wrote: A few hours playing with my corp squad and we can teach devs everything that needs changed and how far to go when adjusting fits and weapons. . Dont we ALL feel like this...? XD (and its probably a lie) Quote: I think the only players that should be listened to are those with 60milion sp like me or at least 50million, there are enough of us So you think the people who should make the decisions aren't the videogame developers like, experts in FPS, and people who run the numbers of dust all day like myself, Judge R and Shays , etc... You think it should be you because you have played dust for a little longer / grinded your way through? This doesnt sound very convincing..... The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
jace silencerww Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 92	Posted - 2014.11.19 20:47:00 - [54] - Quote shaman oga wrote: jace silencerww wrote: shaman oga wrote: I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes. Yes, we should have the ability to edit suit with other STD level stuff if we want. true but CCP does not have the ability yet to limit editing on some suit. that is why they can not do a match making with limits like basic/militia gear only battles, adv gear or less battles, and all gear battles. yes that means tanks mods too and the ads would be proto battles only. besides if your new top dust you would buy the APEX while vets see its and most will grind for LP suits. I have seem the new tiger scout already and saw the LP gal scout the first day they were out. so the suits work as they are mean to. help new players by have a proto bpo suit while not give they an huge advantage and vets have a bpo proto suit with the bonuses (sp skills) helping the suit even more. it is a fair and balanced suits. if you don't like them and wanted a refund try putting in a ticket to see if ccp can do it. I haven't bought gal scout, the fitting it had was perfect for me, now it's completely another thing, i don't care about ion pistol or smg, i'm talking about modules and equipments. They can restrict each slot to a certain meta level and problem is solved. maybe or maybe not we don't know if CCP has the ability to do that or not. I do see your point
Al the destroyer NECROM0NGERS 205	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:22:00 - [55] - Quote It would be nice if you could change the equipment layout of the suit at least I'm used to where my equipment is placed on my suits
lowdevil Savage Bullet 22	Posted - 2014.11.26 00:52:00 - [56] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: What did they change about the APEX Gal Scout? put a stupid damage mod on a shotgun took out the remote and put a uplink in. and the biggest was changeing the sub machinegun to a lol ion pistol. i dam sure didn't get this suit for this crap ass loadout. CCP are a buch of noobs when it comes to building suits. maybe itll teach you 'noobs' to use the damn uplinks instead of running around with your heads cut off expecting a spawn to magically appear near where you died. Unless you play ambush, in which case, you a special kind of stupid while your spawning on that crap uplink five others will have spawn on the proto type links I throw every match before I switch to scout.
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 676	Posted - 2014.11.26 01:11:00 - [57] - Quote Dude, the Gallente APEX Scout Suit looks pretty good. Here's what I'm lookin' at in case it changes: Light Damage Modifier Standard Extender Federation Shotgun Standard Ion Pistol Standard Flux Grenade (should not be imperial) Standard Drop Uplink Standard Cloak Field Standard Ferroscale Standard Dampener Standard Dampener Federation Kinetic Catalyzer If you're upset because you want straight HP modules instead, then you're a scrub scout. With all due respect :-)
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17836	Posted - 2014.11.26 01:14:00 - [58] - Quote Its called a recall. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 64	Posted - 2014.11.26 04:28:00 - [59] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a recall. Its called being fine the way they were.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 64	Posted - 2014.11.26 04:59:00 - [60] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: There should be no free remote explosives. Don't you realise links are better not just for your own score but also your teams chances of winning. I'm honestly sick of coming top on my team cause I'm the only ****** on my side who knows what a link is and how to use them. Links that others may not use because they are BASIC and waiting 15 seconds may take too long. Bear in mind not everyone has the same fitting setup. You like having drop uplinks great.

TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 64	Posted - 2014.11.26 05:04:00 - [61] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a recall. Would you feel that way if you purchased 3 thirty day boosters and CCP changed them into 3 day boosters? This wasn't a Nerf. It was a change in the product after the time of purchase.
postapo wastelander Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 704	Posted - 2014.11.26 05:16:00 - [62] - Quote lowdevil wrote: when you buy a mustang does the dealership come to your house and exchange it with a taurus? I want my 100k LP and 10mil isk back or have a better skilled scout design it. why doesn't anyone consult good players before they build things. A few hours playing with my corp squad and we can teach devs everything that needs changed and how far to go when adjusting fits and weapons. I think the only players that should be listened to are those with 60milion sp like me or at least 50million, there are enough of us. When are the true dust fanatics going to get a say? You actually have to play the game with us so we can give you play by play advice, I've been saying this for years. Constructive Criticism: Let us exchange the suit modules with any other lv1 aurum variety AND FOR ALL YOU SCRUBS CRYING OP! OP! MY BPO DREN SCOUT IS 10times MORE POWERFUL THAN THIS SUIT WILL EVER BE BUT mind this, if we will have full racial tekie in the future, they have to change it. Or you really want to have like Amarian HMG or Matar for example?! Honestly its still BPO, you dont have to QQ much (you cant lose before or after any changes). *"In the rust we trust"*
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 295	Posted - 2014.11.26 12:44:00 - [63] - Quote Im loving all the dealership references. Its almost like you guys have never heard of a recall.
Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 129	Posted - 2014.11.26 17:19:00 - [64] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Im loving all the dealership references. Its almost like you guys have never heard of a recall. A recall requires you to go in. You get notified of the change and can choose to opt out. KDR - Kill Die Repeat
thehellisgoingon the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 11	Posted - 2014.11.26 18:41:00 - [65] - Quote Pre-fitted with basic modules. In the description it states that it's meant for "new players". Idk how a "vet" can be so slow. My dragonfly is in all ways superior to a Pre-fitted noob suit
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 64	Posted - 2014.11.26 21:24:00 - [66] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Im loving all the dealership references. Its almost like you guys have never heard of a recall. This idea has been stated already. Have you heard of a refund?
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game RUST415 843	Posted - 2014.11.27 00:33:00 - [67] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: boba's fetta wrote: There should be no free remote explosives. Don't you realise links are better not just for your own score but also your teams chances of winning. I'm honestly sick of coming top on my team cause I'm the only ****** on my side who knows what a link is and how to use them. Links that others may not use because they are BASIC and waiting 15 seconds may take too long. Bear in mind not everyone has the same fitting setup. You like having drop uplinks great. no I relise that links are necessary to win.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 64	Posted - 2014.11.27 01:14:00 - [68] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: boba's fetta wrote: There should be no free remote explosives. Don't you realise links are better not just for your own score but also your teams chances of winning. I'm honestly sick of coming top on my team cause I'm the only ****** on my side who knows what a link is and how to use them. Links that others may not use because they are BASIC and waiting 15 seconds may take too long. Bear in mind not everyone has the same fitting setup. You like having drop uplinks great. no I relise that links are necessary to win. I think you've jumped off topic however to respond to your opinion on fittings that is why I have one or more drop uplinks on each one of the vast majority of my fittings which are logi. As a scout I have no need for them. Let me guess you feel that every heavy suit out there should be forced to carry one in their fitting as well?
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 351	Posted - 2014.11.27 01:19:00 - [69] - Quote Hey CCP, can you please leave these suits editable, and just lower the CPU/PG to standard frame level of the same race/class? This would solve several issues. First, everybody could put whatever basic modules in there that he likes. It might be possible to put even more in the suit, but it would not be unbalanced, since you pay for the extra oomph with isk. And they would still be comparably weak. Second, as I gathered, if you fix the modules, the suit is not renamable, and on every logon, dust forgets if it's been the favourite. This is highly annoying, if you sort your suits with the help of their names. Please consider! Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing... Not playing logi that much anymore... which is a shame...
Exile Code 8	Posted - 2014.11.27 01:46:00 - [70] - Quote I don't think SP should be a measure of ability or skill. SP is gained through ability and skill, not the other way around.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17838	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:35:00 - [71] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a recall. Would you feel that way if you purchased 3 thirty day boosters and CCP changed them into 3 day boosters? This wasn't a Nerf. It was a change in the product after the time of purchase. So buy 30 day boosters then mid boosters have the Sp cap and payouts change entirely. Sometimes good sometimes bad. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 64	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:44:00 - [72] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a recall. Would you feel that way if you purchased 3 thirty day boosters and CCP changed them into 3 day boosters? This wasn't a Nerf. It was a change in the product after the time of purchase. So buy 30 day boosters then mid boosters have the Sp cap and payouts change entirely. Sometimes good sometimes bad. Still missing the point Iron Wolf. You don't pay for the SP cap, you pay for the boosters. If I purchase an Apex suit and CCP decides to adjust the functional level of all modules of which one or more may affect the suit like every other suit so be it. That is fair, it would be an adjustment liking buffing the RR or nerfing swarms. What happened was they changed the module/weapon load out which was one of the reasons I and others purchased the suit. CCP changed the product after the purchase.
Hakyou Brutor Titans of Phoenix 1673	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:44:00 - [73] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a recall. Would you feel that way if you purchased 3 thirty day boosters and CCP changed them into 3 day boosters? This wasn't a Nerf. It was a change in the product after the time of purchase. So buy 30 day boosters then mid boosters have the Sp cap and payouts change entirely. Sometimes good sometimes bad. ISW this is BS and you know it Knight Soiaire = my bae
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17850	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:32:00 - [74] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a recall. Would you feel that way if you purchased 3 thirty day boosters and CCP changed them into 3 day boosters? This wasn't a Nerf. It was a change in the product after the time of purchase. So buy 30 day boosters then mid boosters have the Sp cap and payouts change entirely. Sometimes good sometimes bad. ISW this is BS and you know it Its more of the reality of how to this this much more very real issue for certain players as its doing all sorts of weird things. Apex suit changes are to keep them relative and useful instead of forgotten and unlike planetside 2 we are not nerfing the 9$ gun for being the most popular seller so that some other gun can have a chance to shine at being bought. Apex suits are being met with a range of critisms on being useful; or too powerful or not powerful enough for a standard fit even. Its a hard balance to strike off the bat with everything else changing dust 514 constantly. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2148	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:42:00 - [75] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a recall. Would you feel that way if you purchased 3 thirty day boosters and CCP changed them into 3 day boosters? This wasn't a Nerf. It was a change in the product after the time of purchase. How would you feel if I took your car for service and replaced the brakes with a different model? Or replaced the radio? That's effectively what you're arguing about. It isn't changing your thirty days to three days. Its changing the manner in which the thirty days work. Changing your thirty day active boosters to thirty day passive boosters. I Live for Tears
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 64	Posted - 2014.11.27 20:53:00 - [76] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a recall. Would you feel that way if you purchased 3 thirty day boosters and CCP changed them into 3 day boosters? This wasn't a Nerf. It was a change in the product after the time of purchase. So buy 30 day boosters then mid boosters have the Sp cap and payouts change entirely. Sometimes good sometimes bad. ISW this is BS and you know it Its more of the reality of how to this this much more very real issue for certain players as its doing all sorts of weird things. Apex suit changes are to keep them relative and useful instead of forgotten and unlike planetside 2 we are not nerfing the 9$ gun for being the most popular seller so that some other gun can have a chance to shine at being bought. Apex suits are being met with a range of critisms on being useful; or too powerful or not powerful enough for a standard fit even. Its a hard balance to strike off the bat with everything else changing dust 514 constantly. Now your making excuses. I purchased it because it would be useful. If the alterations are made they deviate from their usefulness to myself the buyer. The argument of these suits as being OP is both hilarious and weak in any form because even a regular basic suit can have higher tier modules/weapons and provide flexibility to the user. A true proto suit provides flexibility, HP, and weapons capabilities that these suits cannot provide. The suits themselves prove useful based on the players play style which would determine what they work towards or buy making the suits relevant. As far as this being the reality if CCP did the honorable thing either refunding my money or leaving these suits the way they were when a player purchases it I wouldn't complain. If I earned it by grinding on factional I would be disappointed but I would let it go. Instead as an individual that gave this company currency representative of my time and efforts to use in this game they essentially took that product and it's usefulness from me. They've had the ticket I submitted asking for a refund for over a week asking only for a refund in money representative of the Aurum used to purchase the suit and I haven't heard a response. Great customer service. I certainly won't be purchasing anything from this company again.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 64	Posted - 2014.11.27 20:57:00 - [77] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a recall. Would you feel that way if you purchased 3 thirty day boosters and CCP changed them into 3 day boosters? This wasn't a Nerf. It was a change in the product after the time of purchase. How would you feel if I took your car for service and replaced the brakes with a different model? Or replaced the radio? That's effectively what you're arguing about. It isn't changing your thirty days to three days. Its changing the manner in which the thirty days work. Changing your thirty day active boosters to thirty day passive boosters. No, that is changing the product. You are saying you still have something, its just not what you paid for.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2149	Posted - 2014.11.27 21:51:00 - [78] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a recall. Would you feel that way if you purchased 3 thirty day boosters and CCP changed them into 3 day boosters? This wasn't a Nerf. It was a change in the product after the time of purchase. How would you feel if I took your car for service and replaced the brakes with a different model? Or replaced the radio? That's effectively what you're arguing about. It isn't changing your thirty days to three days. Its changing the manner in which the thirty days work. Changing your thirty day active boosters to thirty day passive boosters. No, that is changing the product. You are saying you still have something, its just not what you paid for. Which is exactly your argument. The Apex Suits arent w/ the fits i had when I bought them, so you am upset. These active boosters became passive boosters, so you 'd be upset This car doesn't have the radio It had when I bought it, so you'd be upset I Live for Tears


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