The APEX fittings are purposefully sub-par. They are designed that way so a player willing to spend ISK on his own fitting will have an advantage over someone who straight up buys his BPO-proto fitting.

Working as intended.

when you buy a mustang does the dealership come to your house and exchange it with a taurus? I want my 100k LP and 10mil isk back or have a better skilled scout design it. why doesn't anyone consult good players before they build things. A few hours playing with my corp squad and we can teach devs everything that needs changed and how far to go when adjusting fits and weapons. I think the only players that should be listened to are those with 60milion sp like me or at least 50million, there are enough of us. When are the true dust fanatics going to get a say? You actually have to play the game with us so we can give you play by play advice, I've been saying this for years.

ideally they need to be 1/2 the cost.. cause no newbro will buy the apex suits for aur and wont get a chance to get the LP/isk for the LP store one..

Ideally they need to be 1/2 the cost.. cause no newbro will buy the apex suits for aur and wont get a chance to get the LP/isk for the LP store one..

Agreed, at least the LP cost needs to be halved, if not ISK too.

The APEX fittings are purposefully sub-par. They are designed that way so a player willing to spend ISK on his own fitting will have an advantage over someone who straight up buys his BPO-proto fitting.

Working as intended.

spend a week grinding or $30 on a sub par suit??? just cause it looks good doesn't mean it can't work good. I like the basic modules, there you go, not a pay to win proto; buuuuuttt it still should work well for what it is. the first fit was the best.

The APEX fittings are purposefully sub-par. They are designed that way so a player willing to spend ISK on his own fitting will have an advantage over someone who straight up buys his BPO-proto fitting.

Working as intended.

I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes.

I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes.

Yes, we should have the ability to edit suit with other STD level stuff if we want.

true but CCP does not have the ability yet to limit editing on some suit. that is why they can not do a match making with limits like basic/militia gear only battles, adv gear or less battles, and all gear battles. yes that means tanks mods too and the ads would be proto battles only.

besides if your new top dust you would buy the APEX while vets see its and most will grind for LP suits. I have seem the new tiger scout already and saw the LP gal scout the first day they were out. so the suits work as they are mean to. help new players by have a proto bpo suit while not give they an huge advantage and vets have a bpo proto suit with the bonuses (sp skills) helping the suit even more. it is a fair and balanced suits. if you don't like them and wanted a refund try putting in a ticket to see if ccp can do it.

I haven't bought gal scout, the fitting it had was perfect for me, now it's completely another thing, i don't care about ion pistol or smg, i'm talking about modules and equipments.
They can restrict each slot to a certain meta level and problem is solved.

I was planning to grind some LP for the gal scout, but i don't like the changes.

Yes, we should have the ability to edit suit with other STD level stuff if we want.

Seriously, what about them did CCP change?

WHY WON'T ANYONE SAY?

SOMEONE FOUND THE CHANGES

You also have to keep in mind CCP said very early on that the suits where subject to change. There was an entire feedback thread for them.

Now, the changes butchering of the glorious Quafe suits. That was uncalled for and they're are now completely different from what they were initially sold as. Maybe I should submit a ticket for a refund. CCP doesn't seem to eager to change them back.

the winmatar apex scout is worth the lp.

Ok, so here's the thing - I made a purchase because I was satisfied with the product offered. Somebody else thinks they'd like a different variation on the theme and negotiates a different deal. Good for them, but why am I now forced to keep their deal? Changes made post-purchase are underhanded tactics that should be avoided in all cases to maintain trust with the community. I understand that the game belongs to CCP and they can do whatever they like with it, the issue here is trust.

Here's hoping they at least allow a trade into a different suit...

Ok, so here's the thing - I made a purchase because I was satisfied with the product offered. Somebody else thinks they'd like a different variation on the theme and negotiates a different deal. Good for them, but why am I now forced to keep their deal? Changes made post-purchase are underhanded tactics that should be avoided in all cases to maintain trust with the community. I understand that the game belongs to CCP and they can do whatever they like with it, the issue here is trust.

Here's hoping they at least allow a trade into a different suit...

The issue here is misplaced trust!

Could you be more specific as to which change(s) you feel was unwarranted? I am looking at the spreadsheet, and I don't see any drastic changes. A few tweaks based on community feedback. I am stoked for the Min Commando changes, but now that the Shaman Logi has been made a tad less squishy, I'm torn. I told myself I would only get one, but now I want the Commando and the Logi. Ah well, back to grinding LP!

What did they change about the APEX Gal Scout?