So we are left with 2:
-TANKED: Full HP Scout, used as an assault with a lot less HP and no weapon bonuses but more stamina/e-war/speed. The one im using now is a Cal scout tanked...My cal Scout has 440ish Shields and 303 Armor, at the cost of dampening,speed,radar capacity,strafing speed and well...dignity.

-DAMPENED: Gals and Cals with 2 Cx profile dampeners and Amarr and Min with 2 or 3. Very stealthy and will never achieve over 500EHP.

Here are the "weapon bonuses" that assaults get:
Bigger clip size (Amarr/Minmatar)
Recoil reduction (Gallente)
Faster reload speed... lol (Caldari)

I still speed tank mate =p

i dont mind the new maps. Make my own cover. blueberries are excellent for this!

Hit detection glitching.

The thing is, the main idea of the scout is to be able to SOLO play, and effectively engage enemies in 1 on 1.

Bigger clip Size (MINMATAR ONLY): Equals more time delivering DPS.
Less HEAT REDUCTION (AMARR) : Equals more time delivering DPS.

The scout has 4 specific playstyles:

-Dampened : 2+ Profile dampeners to be Radar invisible
-Tanked: Full HP mods in order to have an Assault suit with less EHP but more speed and better E-war perks.
-E-war Scanner: Full precision mods to use passive scanning. ( my Fav style, Amarr and Cal scouts)
-Speed Tanked: 2+ Kinetic Cats for max speed and combat agility.

In 1.9 we have ony 2 types working.Dampened and Tanked.
Why you ask?
-E-war Passive scanning is dead because scouts are now either Not dampened ( and i can passive scan them anyways without prec. enhancers) or fully Dampened (and i cant scan them at all even with 2Cx prec enhancers on my Proto Amarr scout). Not to mention i feel stupid when im in one of my E-war scouts and everybody in my team is scanning at 200mts away and im like: ''Great, i should have just shield tanked....'''

Also the 30mts radar range on my amarr scout its just lame, making the only true radar capable scout , the Cal Scout.

-Speed tanked: AA is too strong and bullets seem to be incapable of missing on some weapons. Speed is not enough to get to cover in time with how open maps are now.

So we are left with 2:
-TANKED: Full HP Scout, used as an assault with a lot less HP and no weapon bonuses but more stamina/e-war/speed. The one im using now is a Cal scout tanked...My cal Scout has 440ish Shields and 303 Armor, at the cost of dampening,speed,radar capacity,strafing speed and well...dignity.

-DAMPENED: Gals and Cals with 2 Cx profile dampeners and Amarr and Min with 2 or 3. Very stealthy and will never achieve over 500EHP.

So, 1.9 only left us with 2 viable scout playstyles and now lets review the rest of the game!
XD

NEW MAPS? Horrible for scouts , they are the playground of Dropships+Uplink , Railrifles and Laser weaponry.

New Weapon Balance? Sure the Breach AR now works (one of my fav weapons) But what difference does it make to hit 60+ per bullet if HMGs can hit me effectivley at 45mts? AND win? XD
WEapons with LONGER ranges are now the best ones because of these maps! You can use a RR/SCR/LR/TAC AR in order to engage in longer ranges and use sidearms in CQ.

Assaults have the advantage now because of MAP LAYOUT. How maps are done now. The open spaces and reduced cover in most maps make the assault EHP plus above avarege mobility ideal for for this engagements. Heavies Can move almost freely around in close quarters areas since the SCAN SPAM (now TEAM BASED) is so drastic that they know where every enemy is....

Heavies Too,because of their LAV + HMG combo.

So overall, this patch is like a big Invisible nerf to scouts. I mean if you cant see a scout running through 500mts of open terrain is YOUR fault for being a sucky as hell player, not scouts being OP.

Even my 700HP full TAnked cal scout (eew im ashamed again) is crap compared to my Templar BPO fit (850+HP) with Templar SCR rifle in this patch...

Q.Q all you want but if it WASNT ENOUGH, cloak is ALSO nerfed and now i have to wait while running behind a Sentinel to be able to knife him. The window of error is Way to big now. Stalking has become even less effective.

Complain about scouts? they get kileld in 1 second by even a MLT combat rifle
Complain now about the BRCH AR? Lol when every other light and heavy weapon (except the Shotgun) has equal or more range?

So please enlighen me. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?
nono, not that...Why are you all always complaining instead of getting good?

On the contrary.

1.9 Is the most noobish of all updates, i dont even need to AIM anymore.
AA is so strong i can wipe other Cal scouts at over 40-50mts in seconds with hip fire only...

Still not convinced? Then ''fix'' hit detection, REMOVE AA.

On the contrary.

1.9 Is the most noobish of all updates, i dont even need to AIM anymore.
AA is so strong i can wipe other Cal scouts at over 40-50mts in seconds with hip fire only...

Still not convinced? Then ''fix'' hit detection, REMOVE AA.

On the contrary.

1.9 Is the most noobish of all updates, i dont even need to AIM anymore.
AA is so strong i can wipe other Cal scouts at over 40-50mts in seconds with hip fire only...

Still not convinced? Then ''fix'' hit detection, REMOVE AA.

1.9 Is the most noobish of all updates, i don't even need to AIM anymore.
AA is so strong i can wipe other Cal scouts at over 40-50mts in seconds with hip fire only...

Still not convinced? Then ''fix'' hit detection, REMOVE AA.

i havnt seen the lav/hmg thing in such a long time.

All 1.9 did was increase FPS in certain instances. This made hit detection more accurate thus making it appear to "buff" AA. (That's my theory)

Aim assist compensates for controllers' clunky, jerky movements. It needs to stay, but it could probably be turned down a bit now the FPS optimizations have been added in 1.9.

By the way, even after hit detection was improved scouts can strafe all but focused fire from multiple players.

Bigger clip Size (MINMATAR ONLY): Equals more time delivering DPS.
Less HEAT REDUCTION (AMARR) : Equals more time delivering DPS.
Recoil reduction. Sure m8, this one sucks, but ARs are working now so whatevs. This bonus DOES WORK with the TAC and regular AR thou. Pretty well too.
Faster Reload speed: well it reduced the time it takes to get back on dealing damage. It should be a little more thou...



An advanced Scout with 2 Cx profile dampeners will always be (AT MAX) in 400EHP (give or take) . This is light, considering how weapons cannot miss now. So they apply Full DPS most of the time.

I will need to see someone at CCP that states the scout's role is solo and engage the enemy one on one. I'm pretty sure they never have. That's an idea you have in your head about how scouts should work that probably happens to be your preferred playstyle.


The ability to fit cloaks easier and strafe-dance to become invincible still outweighs the assault bonuses.

The scout has 4 specific playstyles:

-Dampened : 2+ Profile dampeners to be Radar invisible
-Tanked: Full HP mods in order to have an Assault suit with less EHP but more speed and better E-war perks.
-E-war Scanner: Full precision mods to use passive scanning. ( my Fav style, Amarr and Cal scouts)
-Speed Tanked: 2+ Kinetic Cats for max speed and combat agility.

In 1.9 we have ony 2 types working.Dampened and Tanked.
Why you ask?
-E-war Passive scanning is dead because scouts are now either Not dampened ( and i can passive scan them anyways without prec. enhancers) or fully Dampened (and i cant scan them at all even with 2Cx prec enhancers on my Proto Amarr scout). Not to mention i feel stupid when im in one of my E-war scouts and everybody in my team is scanning at 200mts away and im like: ''Great, i should have just shield tanked....'''

Also the 30mts radar range on my amarr scout its just lame, making the only true radar capable scout , the Cal Scout.

-Speed tanked: AA is too strong and bullets seem to be incapable of missing on some weapons. Speed is not enough to get to cover in time with how open maps are now.

So we are left with 2:
-TANKED: Full HP Scout, used as an assault with a lot less HP and no weapon bonuses but more stamina/e-war/speed. The one im using now is a Cal scout tanked...My cal Scout has 440ish Shields and 303 Armor, at the cost of dampening,speed,radar capacity,strafing speed and well...dignity.

-DAMPENED: Gals and Cals with 2 Cx profile dampeners and Amarr and Min with 2 or 3. Very stealthy and will never achieve over 500EHP.

So, 1.9 only left us with 2 viable scout playstyles and now lets review the rest of the game!
XD

NEW MAPS? Horrible for scouts , they are the playground of Dropships+Uplink , Railrifles and Laser weaponry.

New Weapon Balance? Sure the Breach AR now works (one of my fav weapons) But what difference does it make to hit 60+ per bullet if HMGs can hit me effectivley at 45mts? AND win? XD
WEapons with LONGER ranges are now the best ones because of these maps! You can use a RR/SCR/LR/TAC AR in order to engage in longer ranges and use sidearms in CQ.

Assaults have the advantage now because of MAP LAYOUT. How maps are done now. The open spaces and reduced cover in most maps make the assault EHP plus above avarege mobility ideal for for this engagements. Heavies Can move almost freely around in close quarters areas since the SCAN SPAM (now TEAM BASED) is so drastic that they know where every enemy is....

Heavies Too,because of their LAV + HMG combo.

So overall, this patch is like a big Invisible nerf to scouts. I mean if you cant see a scout running through 500mts of open terrain is YOUR fault for being a sucky as hell player, not scouts being OP.

Even my 700HP full TAnked cal scout (eew im ashamed again) is crap compared to my Templar BPO fit (850+HP) with Templar SCR rifle in this patch...

Q.Q all you want but if it WASNT ENOUGH, cloak is ALSO nerfed and now i have to wait while running behind a Sentinel to be able to knife him. The window of error is Way to big now. Stalking has become even less effective.

Complain about scouts? they get kileld in 1 second by even a MLT combat rifle
Complain now about the BRCH AR? Lol when every other light and heavy weapon (except the Shotgun) has equal or more range?

So please enlighen me. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?
nono, not that...Why are you all always complaining instead of getting good?

Literally every time there is a change to a scanning mechanic we have scouts crying all over the forums about how dead the class is.

It's really cute.

Lol, he says get goodGǪ needs a cloak.

Real scouts from before the cloak say scouts are fine as a scout and not as a pre-packaged ninja assassin with the cloak.

That's who.

Good to see you back around King, though I was surprised to see you rocking a calscout last night.

On the whole subject of them being nerfed, scouts are still the best flankers in the game. Last night alone I was able to bag 4 guys in under 2 seconds with NK's in a 300ehp suit all because they didn't know I was there till it was too late.

They still outstrafe everything that's not also a light frame and their smaller hitboxes can allow them to literally weave through heavy fire if they have that skill down pat.

Ran up to a gal scout today, prototype; shotgunned his face off. Never saw me approach from his peripherals.

I had scanned message too and was not cloaked.

Scout harder.

In my opinion you Scouts are still too damn op. All you do is strafe, strafe, RE, and more strafe! Not cool. -_- (No disrespect)