DUST Search - Why people who are not Scouts cannot see we were already nerfed.

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

The scout has 4 specific playstyles:

-Dampened : 2+ Profile dampeners to be Radar invisible
-Tanked: Full HP mods in order to have an Assault suit with less EHP but more speed and better E-war perks.
-E-war Scanner: Full precision mods to use passive scanning. ( my Fav style, Amarr and Cal scouts)
-Speed Tanked: 2+ Kinetic Cats for max speed and combat agility.

In 1.9 we have ony 2 types working.Dampened and Tanked.
Why you ask?
-E-war Passive scanning is dead because scouts are now either Not dampened ( and i can passive scan them anyways without prec. enhancers) or fully Dampened (and i cant scan them at all even with 2Cx prec enhancers on my Proto Amarr scout). Not to mention i feel stupid when im in one of my E-war scouts and everybody in my team is scanning at 200mts away and im like: ''Great, i should have just shield tanked....'''

Also the 30mts radar range on my amarr scout its just lame, making the only true radar capable scout , the Cal Scout.

-Speed tanked: AA is too strong and bullets seem to be incapable of missing on some weapons. Speed is not enough to get to cover in time with how open maps are now.

So we are left with 2:
-TANKED: Full HP Scout, used as an assault with a lot less HP and no weapon bonuses but more stamina/e-war/speed. The one im using now is a Cal scout tanked...My cal Scout has 440ish Shields and 303 Armor, at the cost of dampening,speed,radar capacity,strafing speed and well...dignity.

-DAMPENED: Gals and Cals with 2 Cx profile dampeners and Amarr and Min with 2 or 3. Very stealthy and will never achieve over 500EHP.

So, 1.9 only left us with 2 viable scout playstyles and now lets review the rest of the game!
XD

NEW MAPS? Horrible for scouts , they are the playground of Dropships+Uplink , Railrifles and Laser weaponry.

New Weapon Balance? Sure the Breach AR now works (one of my fav weapons) But what difference does it make to hit 60+ per bullet if HMGs can hit me effectivley at 45mts? AND win? XD
WEapons with LONGER ranges are now the best ones because of these maps! You can use a RR/SCR/LR/TAC AR in order to engage in longer ranges and use sidearms in CQ.

Assaults have the advantage now because of MAP LAYOUT. How maps are done now. The open spaces and reduced cover in most maps make the assault EHP plus above avarege mobility ideal for for this engagements. Heavies Can move almost freely around in close quarters areas since the SCAN SPAM (now TEAM BASED) is so drastic that they know where every enemy is....

Heavies Too,because of their LAV + HMG combo.

So overall, this patch is like a big Invisible nerf to scouts. I mean if you cant see a scout running through 500mts of open terrain is YOUR fault for being a sucky as hell player, not scouts being OP.

Even my 700HP full TAnked cal scout (eew im ashamed again) is crap compared to my Templar BPO fit (850+HP) with Templar SCR rifle in this patch...

Q.Q all you want but if it WASNT ENOUGH, cloak is ALSO nerfed and now i have to wait while running behind a Sentinel to be able to knife him. The window of error is Way to big now. Stalking has become even less effective.

Complain about scouts? they get kileld in 1 second by even a MLT combat rifle
Complain now about the BRCH AR? Lol when every other light and heavy weapon (except the Shotgun) has equal or more range?

So please enlighen me. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?
nono, not that...Why are you all always complaining instead of getting good?


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Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 622	Posted - 2014.11.06 22:10:00 - [1] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: The scout has 4 specific playstyles: -Dampened : 2+ Profile dampeners to be Radar invisible -Tanked: Full HP mods in order to have an Assault suit with less EHP but more speed and better E-war perks. -E-war Scanner: Full precision mods to use passive scanning. ( my Fav style, Amarr and Cal scouts) -Speed Tanked: 2+ Kinetic Cats for max speed and combat agility. In 1.9 we have ony 2 types working.Dampened and Tanked. Why you ask? -E-war Passive scanning is dead because scouts are now either Not dampened ( and i can passive scan them anyways without prec. enhancers) or fully Dampened (and i cant scan them at all even with 2Cx prec enhancers on my Proto Amarr scout). Not to mention i feel stupid when im in one of my E-war scouts and everybody in my team is scanning at 200mts away and im like: ''Great, i should have just shield tanked....''' Also the 30mts radar range on my amarr scout its just lame, making the only true radar capable scout , the Cal Scout. -Speed tanked: AA is too strong and bullets seem to be incapable of missing on some weapons. Speed is not enough to get to cover in time with how open maps are now. So we are left with 2: -TANKED: Full HP Scout, used as an assault with a lot less HP and no weapon bonuses but more stamina/e-war/speed. The one im using now is a Cal scout tanked...My cal Scout has 440ish Shields and 303 Armor, at the cost of dampening,speed,radar capacity,strafing speed and well...dignity. -DAMPENED: Gals and Cals with 2 Cx profile dampeners and Amarr and Min with 2 or 3. Very stealthy and will never achieve over 500EHP. So, 1.9 only left us with 2 viable scout playstyles and now lets review the rest of the game! XD NEW MAPS? Horrible for scouts , they are the playground of Dropships+Uplink , Railrifles and Laser weaponry. New Weapon Balance? Sure the Breach AR now works (one of my fav weapons) But what difference does it make to hit 60+ per bullet if HMGs can hit me effectivley at 45mts? AND win? XD WEapons with LONGER ranges are now the best ones because of these maps! You can use a RR/SCR/LR/TAC AR in order to engage in longer ranges and use sidearms in CQ. Assaults have the advantage now because of MAP LAYOUT. How maps are done now. The open spaces and reduced cover in most maps make the assault EHP plus above avarege mobility ideal for for this engagements. Heavies Can move almost freely around in close quarters areas since the SCAN SPAM (now TEAM BASED) is so drastic that they know where every enemy is.... Heavies Too,because of their LAV + HMG combo. So overall, this patch is like a big Invisible nerf to scouts. I mean if you cant see a scout running through 500mts of open terrain is YOUR fault for being a sucky as hell player, not scouts being OP. Even my 700HP full TAnked cal scout (eew im ashamed again) is crap compared to my Templar BPO fit (850+HP) with Templar SCR rifle in this patch... Q.Q all you want but if it WASNT ENOUGH, cloak is ALSO nerfed and now i have to wait while running behind a Sentinel to be able to knife him. The window of error is Way to big now. Stalking has become even less effective. Complain about scouts? they get kileld in 1 second by even a MLT combat rifle Complain now about the BRCH AR? Lol when every other light and heavy weapon (except the Shotgun) has equal or more range? So please enlighen me. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU? nono, not that...Why are you all always complaining instead of getting good? Lol, he says get goodGÇª needs a cloak. Real scouts from before the cloak say scouts are fine as a scout and not as a pre-packaged ninja assassin with the cloak. That's who. Boycott Black Thursday!
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 629	Posted - 2014.11.07 05:28:00 - [2] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Lol, he says get goodGÇª needs a cloak. Real scouts from before the cloak say scouts are fine as a scout and not as a pre-packaged ninja assassin with the cloak. That's who. I am a real scout from before cloaks... >..> Get your facts straight. Whats worng of using a new equipement meant for us? Its like saying, OMG you ppl are not real assaults because old school assaults only had ARs as light weapons and you are using a CR/SCR/RR... DUMB. I didn't say you weren't, but if you are then you've answered your own question(s). Boycott Black Thursday!