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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:28:00 -
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because if you can't get a good the next best thing to do is to rant about the people who have one and be very vocal about it not mattering..
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
174
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:37:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote: If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint.
I cared about my KDR before it got to 1. As soon as I was over that bump I cared a whole lot less. It wasn't how I appeared to anyone else that bothered me. I just wanted to know I was, on average, not a negative merc.
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
9
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:43:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Summa Militum wrote:After reading a bunch of posts about people complaining that they cannot revive every downed clone they see I noticed a lot of people bitching about those who care what their KDR is.
I honestly can't understand why anyone would not care in anyway what their KDR is.
I care about my KDR because I use it as one of several means to develop an idea of how well I am doing when I face the competition and how well I am improving. Though my KDR was completely jacked when I first started playing I have been able to bring it back up by trying to become a better player.
If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint. We're not all tryhards.
Do you know how ******* pathetic you sound when you call someone a tryhard because they actually make an attempt to do well at something? Tryhard is an insult created by a bunch of ******* losers who will never accomplish **** in life. It reminds me of when I was a kid and after winning against someone at whatever they would immediately follow the loss up with "it doesn't matter. I wasn't even trying." |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
4571
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:45:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:Summa Militum wrote: If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint.
I cared about my KDR before it got to 1. As soon as I was over that bump I cared a whole lot less. It wasn't how I appeared to anyone else that bothered me. I just wanted to know I was, on average, not a negative merc. I just take comfort in I kill about as many fullly kitted dropships and HAVs as I lose Sentinel Ck.0 AV fits.
Guess which one costs more?
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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PO0KY
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
1237
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:34:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Summa Militum wrote:I care about my KDR because I use it as one of several means to develop an idea of how well I am doing when I face the competition
If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint. Oh my God this post.... seriously this post. KDR only matters in real life.... that is all. Shouldn't your KDR in real life be 0?
I'm so helpful.
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Aria Gomes
Wirykomi Wolf Pack
671
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:38:00 -
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Sometimes having a good KDR is awesome but usually it's worthless. A Sniper and a Tanker are gonna have "great" KDR compared to a Logi or a Scout.
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
1976
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:45:00 -
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I've never cared about my KDR in most games but in Dust my apathy towards it reaches epic levels.
Why? Because we're immortal in this game. We just jump into another clone and continue the fight. As Fox said earlier, use it as a yardstick if you want to judge how good you are yourself but judging others by it is a futile act because of the myriad of different play styles in this game.
Login row tend to have huge WP but awful KDR because they're always putting themselves in harms way to win the game. I'll always go for the Player with the highest WP to join my team over a high KDR player.
The real stat that our peers should be able to judge us by is ISK effiency. How much in ISK have I destroyed compared to how much I've spent?
Right now I'm messing around in a Quafe Gal Assault costing 20k in gear and I'm tearing up proto heavies with that bad boy (I have max skills in all the equipment I use) but my KDR doesn't reflect that I'm doing that because I'm frontline. For the record the last I checked my KDR IT was 1.26 or something.
I'm pushing very hard for an ISK effiecy stat to be included in either your character stats or the end of a match next to your WP. Imagine if you had 2k of WP and everyone in the match could see that you destroyed 2.75 times the ISK you spent doing it. That would be the sign of a good player.
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Riptalis
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
61
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:48:00 -
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I don't care because either way I always get killed by a fuckin' Scout!
Python pilot
PSN: Riptalis
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
175
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Posted - 2014.11.06 17:55:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote: I'm pushing very hard for an ISK effiecy stat to be included in either your character stats or the end of a match next to your WP. Imagine if you had 2k of WP and everyone in the match could see that you destroyed 2.75 times the ISK you spent doing it. That would be the sign of a good player.
great idea. the more stats the better - especially relevant ones. one of the many great things about this game are the various ways you can use stats to gloat to your mates.
I killed more than you. yeah well I died less. yeah well I got more wp. pah look at my sp. yeah but you got virtually no isk. ah but check out my isk efficiency how are you going to beat that! etc etc...
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
9
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:17:00 -
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I think it would be cool if we could view KDRs relative to the weapon used and dropsuit used. At the end of a match if you see someone with a slightly higher KDR than you but they were sniping with a prototype dropsuit while you were leading the charge into battle with an advanced suit and a combat rifle there would be no need to compare those KDRs due to the difference in battle experience.
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
9
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:20:00 -
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I like this ISK efficiency idea. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
1977
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:40:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:I like this ISK efficiency idea.
I've been saying it for 2 years now.....
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
264
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:45:00 -
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I play Logi mostly, so I am in no great position to seriously go for high kills. So I can't care soo much for KDR, because only hunting for Kills is a waste of good Logi-Time.
Another point is that I dont farm SP or spend much on Aurum, thats why I cant max out multiple fittings and explore what the best slayer stuff is atm.
Yet another point is that I cant put in the time and training to get seriously good at "do nothing but headshots", that all the crazy slayers out there seem to do all the time. I mean, like killing my (not maxed) heavy suit in about 0.2 seconds, and everything else in less. HOLY ****!
So I plan not to aim for the same level of tryhardness like the serious madmen go for.
On the other hand, I rage pretty badly if my KDR is below 1 in any given match. So I really do care for some sort of equilibrium. I am happy with my KDR being slightly above 1 and I had a good match WP wise.
KDR of 10 or 15 or so happens sometimes, but only against the most noobish of noob teams. But that feels pretty good too. I can understand all the pub-stomping thats going on. But these guys just dont want a real competition, or rise to a challenge. They just want to have that little number as high as possible.
I think the absurditiy of this ambition is what made KDR-pride an object of ridicule, and rightly so. Because I saw how my friends (I initially wanted to play Dust with) got driven away from Dust by these pubstompers.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
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