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Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 4	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:20:00 - [31] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Because logistics. And having fun, FFS... God forbid I enjoy myself! And CQC mass drivers and lolfits and suicide RE runs and jumping out of dropships into the middle of the enemy guns blazing because it's awesome *Plus, the size of my actual peen (apeen?) and hot wife make me not give two fcks about you neckbeards and/or other assorted virgins and your useless video game stats** Honestly, if you obsess about your "stats" in a video game to the point it makes you play a different way than what is most fun to you, then you are doing it wrong. HAHAHA!! I had to google "neckbeard" to figure out what that meant and the pictures accompanied with the definition did not disappoint. In reality though if you were to actually stand next to me I would make you feel very insecure with yourself. I would have to say I don't follow your logic. You seem to be saying that you can not have fun playing a game if you chose to at the same time care about how well you perform playing said game.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4519	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:24:00 - [32] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: It's a game. And KDR is an easily manipulated stat, particularly if you seek out game imbalances, and play into them. Caring about your KDR, especially in a game with no real competitive scene, kind of makes you look like a tool. Every match of this game you play your objective is to win the match and rank high on the leaderboard. How is that not a real competitive scene? Also, you seem to be confusing someone caring about their KDR so that it can be used to make an assessment about something with someone caring about their KDR so they can brag about it to people. If you view and use the KDR with its intended purpose of being measured you wouldn't manipulate it. Because KDR doesn't carry you to the top of the killboard. Warpoints do. If I get 4 kills 6 deaths but crank out 2800 warpoints trashing turrets, tanks and dropships I will be higher on the killboard than someone with 30 kills and 1500 warpoints. Ergo there is no bearing that KDR has on the game. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 4	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:31:00 - [33] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Summa Militum wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: It's a game. And KDR is an easily manipulated stat, particularly if you seek out game imbalances, and play into them. Caring about your KDR, especially in a game with no real competitive scene, kind of makes you look like a tool. Every match of this game you play your objective is to win the match and rank high on the leaderboard. How is that not a real competitive scene? Also, you seem to be confusing someone caring about their KDR so that it can be used to make an assessment about something with someone caring about their KDR so they can brag about it to people. If you view and use the KDR with its intended purpose of being measured you wouldn't manipulate it. Because KDR doesn't carry you to the top of the killboard. Warpoints do. If I get 4 kills 6 deaths but crank out 2800 warpoints trashing turrets, tanks and dropships I will be higher on the killboard than someone with 30 kills and 1500 warpoints. Ergo there is no bearing that KDR has on the game. When talking about the KDR of a specific match it is important to understand that a crappy KDR with a lot of War Points can carry you to the top of the leader-board of the losing team.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1621	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:39:00 - [34] - Quote There's not really much point in caring too much about any of the stats. KDR I care about up to the point that I kill more than I die; as long as it stays 1.01 or above I'm happy. Chief-Shotty wrote: I laugh when i see that guy with high amount of kills but his team losses anyway....basically its just saying im not a team player.....that guy is what i like to call.......the best loser golf clap Sometimes..... no .. A lot of times that guy is the only guy on the team trying to win. I can't count the times I've led a push for the objective and take it only to have my team disperse to the far corners of the map leaving me at the objective while the enemy team pushes back in. On the bright side I get to sit pretty on top of the leader board with 20-50+ kills & less than 5 deaths most times it happens and I get to flatter myself with thoughts of people talking about how much of a bad@ss I was defending the objective by myself. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 972	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:41:00 - [35] - Quote Fun. Game to game I take notice of my KDR coz I like to compare myself in that respect, but when ppl talk about KDR I usually think they're talking long term overall stat. Which I don't give a shite about :) You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Savage Mangler Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 195	Posted - 2014.11.05 09:51:00 - [36] - Quote Because Fear is the Mind Killer. In all seriousness, it's an extremely paddable stat and can be manipulated with ease. I have a pitiful 1.41 KDR but that's because I do things like provide the only meaningful AV in 3/4 of the pub matches I'm in, pop people from 171.4 meters away with a PLC, run paper thin basic scout suits with knives for the lulz and chase proto stompers around on suicidal vengeance romps. I do it all for funzies, because at the end of the day I play games for fun. -YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED- "Good, then they'll know who killed them." Salvation...through Annihilation
Nirwanda Vaughns 894	Posted - 2014.11.05 09:53:00 - [37] - Quote i'm not interested in my kdr as in FPS games i'm normally a medic but also i'm not a 12yr old who thinks a good kdr gives you a bigger ***** or actually means anything in life its a stat on a game in a make believe world. why would you care? you can pad it out as a sniper, tanker or just hiding at teh back as SL and drop barge strikes. its a worthless judge of skill Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2355	Posted - 2014.11.05 09:55:00 - [38] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: [ When talking about the KDR of a specific match it is important to understand that a crappy KDR with a lot of War Points can carry you to the top of the leader-board of the losing team. And a high KDR with few War Points can carry you to the top of the leader-board of the losing team. I am curious what you are getting at. You have been given the best answers that could possibly be given for "I don't care about KDR because X" that I think is possible. In this case, X = "I just want to have fun playing." "It has a lot less relevance in this game." It doesn't win games." "I think there are better statistics." "There are play styles that will artificially inflate or deflate your KDR." "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1588	Posted - 2014.11.05 10:24:00 - [39] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: After reading a bunch of posts about people complaining that they cannot revive every downed clone they see I noticed a lot of people bitching about those who care what their KDR is. I honestly can't understand why anyone would not care in anyway what their KDR is. I care about my KDR because I use it as one of several means to develop an idea of how well I am doing when I face the competition and how well I am improving. Though my KDR was completely jacked when I first started playing I have been able to bring it back up by trying to become a better player. If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint. because KDR means nothing compaired to WP.. WP = #1 on team list easier then KD [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 805	Posted - 2014.11.05 10:33:00 - [40] - Quote hold that wrote: Some people use the excuse of not running proto. Yeah "my kdr might suck but at least I don't run proto in pubs!" 90% of these types are big time scrubs. On the other side though, logis I literally never run Proto. I don't even have it anymore. You clearly do run proto, but yet my KD/R is literally more than two times higher than your pathetic 1.10... 2.24 What's your "excuse"? Swag-suit4lyfe!

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14217	Posted - 2014.11.05 10:41:00 - [41] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: After reading a bunch of posts about people complaining that they cannot revive every downed clone they see I noticed a lot of people bitching about those who care what their KDR is. I honestly can't understand why anyone would not care in anyway what their KDR is. I care about my KDR because I use it as one of several means to develop an idea of how well I am doing when I face the competition and how well I am improving. Though my KDR was completely jacked when I first started playing I have been able to bring it back up by trying to become a better player. If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint. KDR means little to me. All it means is that I can kill puny infantry weaklings and tear through them like their dropsuits are paper. All that matters is ISK destroyed vs ISK lost. That suggests to me that I am completing my role well and that for every 824,000 ISK tank I deploy I am scoring well in excess of 1,500,000 - 2,000,000 ISK in kills. GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
Gabriella Grey THE HANDS OF DEATH RUST415 218	Posted - 2014.11.05 10:57:00 - [42] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Why do some people care so much about it? In truth, a lot of people don't care about their KDR in games like CoD or BF. It is just that you don't really become super vocal about things you don't care about. "When it comes to the current Administration, I just can't make a solid opinion!" will never, ever be yelled over a megaphone. When it comes to DUST, KD/R is a less useful stat to be super stoked about. Sure, your KD/R might be 43.2 but if that just means that in 100 games you will kill 43 people and die once or twice during that time frame are you as useful in helping your team win as the person that is 0.93 and hacks points? Furthermore, there are SO many ways to pad that KD/R like a fourth grader's bra. Redline Snipers, Tankers, and good ADS pilots die far less often than most other roles. An ADS Pilot might only die every other match and kill maybe 7 people a match which makes for an oh-so sexy 14 KDR. It wasn't that they were some kind of unstoppable killing machine; they just rarely die. I was really happy when it hit above 1.5 because it meant I was getting better. That is when it meant a lot to me because I could see that I was starting to be less terrible at the game. I started in the sub .7's and got it up to 1.5 s I could see I was getting better. Now, it fluctuates between 3.88 and 3.92; it is just a number that doesn't mean too much to me. Those type of pilots don't have those kind of KDR stats though. Many of those players were pilots before assault dropships were even in game. My stat on KDR shows me at 0.74. Since last years update I had only started to begin with catching up to my death score, but all what you said is true! KDR score should be taken lightly, as KDR's don't win matches. Dust is more unique that rewards players depending on their role and how they play well with their team. It's why most love it. In your more average cookie cut shooter KDR is the only thing that matters. *Gabriella Grey* "Amarr Ace Pilot" Saracen Squadron 7th Fleet Division
Paulus Phen502 RISE of LEGION 11	Posted - 2014.11.05 11:21:00 - [43] - Quote When I'm playing solo in a pub I wish a whole lot more people cared about winning but so many seem to be out there just padding their stats. So I made an alt last week and made a sniper fit with a basic sniper rifle and put it on the suits they gave me didn't even spec up prof in the sniper rifle. AND I was able to make it into the top 20 in weekly k/d if I had had time I think I could have got top 5. Went 50 something and 0, didn't even cap, while my main Paulus had a weekly of like 1.66/1 ratio. Horrible right, no I just try to run around and win game, hack when it desperately needs it, charge in without a logi, look for a way to win a 4 capped skirm, and guess what, I enjoyed myself much more that way, than camping and stomping, running solo in basic suits preparesyou better for PC matches too. So I guess it would be nice to have people think I'm great because I can fill leaderboards, but I'm to the age where I can see my own accomplishments in the game and be happy with myself.To thine own self be true, but to each their own. "There's no stoppin' what can't be stopped, no killin' what can't be killed," King Willie Predator II.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1266	Posted - 2014.11.05 11:22:00 - [44] - Quote I care for the reason you state, but I don't care if it reflects exactly how I played. If I goofed around orgot farmed by revives I know it, it isn't like I look at my KDR and have no idea what happened. So if you care, I think you are fooling yourself it is about what you think about your playing it is what you want others to think about your playing. Because, that's why.
Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2084	Posted - 2014.11.05 12:28:00 - [45] - Quote It's a bit complicated. Having a solid K/D is nice, but it's not the be all/end all stat in a game focused on team play with so many other factors. I've gone out and spent weeks at a time butchering my K/D just because I stopped caring, running a NK/PLC fit back when both were exceedingly underwhelming, just to eek out a bit more entertainment. The best way CCP could do it would be to have an ISK destroyed/ISK lost stat, which would be the most reflective of a player's skill. It wouldn't be that hard to do either. It would look something like this: 1,114,243 / 216,783 Boom. ISK destroyed/ISK lost. Drop it on the end game stats under your K/D stat wheel or around your favorite weapon and suit. I feel that K/D and WP are important stats for the end of match leader boards as they more directly impact the result of the match, so if you WERE to add this stat in there as well you would have to rework the leaderboards at the end of the match. I'd like to see it, but I'm not too hopeful. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 615	Posted - 2014.11.05 12:31:00 - [46] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: After reading a bunch of posts about people complaining that they cannot revive every downed clone they see I noticed a lot of people bitching about those who care what their KDR is. I honestly can't understand why anyone would not care in anyway what their KDR is. I care about my KDR because I use it as one of several means to develop an idea of how well I am doing when I face the competition and how well I am improving. Though my KDR was completely jacked when I first started playing I have been able to bring it back up by trying to become a better player. If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint. Lol, wuh! It means nothing that's why. Casual play and eyes lets you know how well you are doing. I don't need a game to feed my ego. AndGÇª beer. Don't try so hard. Boycott Black Thursday!
Jack McReady Dust University Ivy League 1579	Posted - 2014.11.05 12:44:00 - [47] - Quote I dont care about my KDR, I would rather jump into the fray and die than sitting somewhere peeing in my pants doing nothing. my fit costs 20k though thus I can die a few times and still go positive.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9107	Posted - 2014.11.05 12:46:00 - [48] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: If your KDR is decent, you care about it. If it's not, you don't care about it. Funny how that works out. My KDR is 3 and I don't care even a little bit. Funny how that works out. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Stevez Wingyip Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.11.05 12:51:00 - [49] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: After reading a bunch of posts about people complaining that they cannot revive every downed clone they see I noticed a lot of people bitching about those who care what their KDR is. I honestly can't understand why anyone would not care in anyway what their KDR is. I care about my KDR because I use it as one of several means to develop an idea of how well I am doing when I face the competition and how well I am improving. Though my KDR was completely jacked when I first started playing I have been able to bring it back up by trying to become a better player. If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint. I don't care because as a new player using basic starter fits, I have no chance against proto so naturally my KDR is going to be bad for ages and there is nothing I can do about it.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9107	Posted - 2014.11.05 12:57:00 - [50] - Quote Also because the way "deaths" are tracked in this game is extremely meaningless. If anything you should care about enemies terminated:your termination ratio, since that actually determines how many clones you take away from the enemy supply relative to your own team's supply. Sadly neither terminated kills and terminated deaths are tracked. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2333	Posted - 2014.11.05 13:04:00 - [51] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: After reading a bunch of posts about people complaining that they cannot revive every downed clone they see I noticed a lot of people bitching about those who care what their KDR is. I honestly can't understand why anyone would not care in anyway what their KDR is. I care about my KDR because I use it as one of several means to develop an idea of how well I am doing when I face the competition and how well I am improving. Though my KDR was completely jacked when I first started playing I have been able to bring it back up by trying to become a better player. If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint. Not all of us are tryhards. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4436	Posted - 2014.11.05 13:18:00 - [52] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Because logistics. And having fun, FFS... God forbid I enjoy myself! And CQC mass drivers and lolfits and suicide RE runs and jumping out of dropships into the middle of the enemy guns blazing because it's awesome *Plus, the size of my actual peen (apeen?) and hot wife make me not give two fcks about you neckbeards and/or other assorted virgins and your useless video game stats** Honestly, if you obsess about your "stats" in a video game to the point it makes you play a different way than what is most fun to you, then you are doing it wrong. HAHAHA!! I had to google "neckbeard" to figure out what that meant and the pictures accompanied with the definition did not disappoint. In reality though if you were to actually stand next to me I would make you feel very insecure with yourself. If you hadnt noticed, it takes an awful lot to make me feel insecure about myself, but sure. Summa Militum wrote: I would have to say I don't follow your logic. You seem to be saying that you can not have fun playing a game if you chose to at the same time care about how well you perform playing said game. No, what I am saying is I am going to play the way that is fun regardless of what any arbitrary "measurement" of my skill says. If having fun gives me great stats, all the better. If it doesn't, then I don't particularly care. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
o'o Damaged Beyond Repair 22	Posted - 2014.11.05 14:19:00 - [53] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: After reading a bunch of posts about people complaining that they cannot revive every downed clone they see I noticed a lot of people bitching about those who care what their KDR is. I honestly can't understand why anyone would not care in anyway what their KDR is. I care about my KDR because I use it as one of several means to develop an idea of how well I am doing when I face the competition and how well I am improving. Though my KDR was completely jacked when I first started playing I have been able to bring it back up by trying to become a better player. If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint. Welll, because some people play to win instead of camping a rooftop with a RR. If I see a opportunity to hack, I'm going to go in for the hack. If I die three times, well shoot. I'll go in again. My kdr is still a solid 1.54 or so. It's not the best but at least I'm positive Taking out tanks and heavys, with a set of knives. <3
Aramis Madrigal Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 308	Posted - 2014.11.05 15:58:00 - [54] - Quote KDR is just one metric. Like any isolated metric, it's not very valuable if it is devoid of context. If you know the players primary role, play style, SP, standard fits used, etc. it is useful for comparison. It is a potentially useful ratio, nothing less and nothing more. -Aramis
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 1177	Posted - 2014.11.05 15:59:00 - [55] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Summa Militum wrote: After reading a bunch of posts about people complaining that they cannot revive every downed clone they see I noticed a lot of people bitching about those who care what their KDR is. I honestly can't understand why anyone would not care in anyway what their KDR is. I care about my KDR because I use it as one of several means to develop an idea of how well I am doing when I face the competition and how well I am improving. Though my KDR was completely jacked when I first started playing I have been able to bring it back up by trying to become a better player. If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint. Down here in the dust, what's the point? KDR doesn't benefit you one way or the other. Not to mention guns that don't fire, hit boxes that barely meet the definition, terrain glitches, shield glitches, server lag, the Merc you got in a gun fight with was closer to the server (you think), latency, KB/M vs DS3 and that perfect streak you had going was stopped by getting dc'd from PSN (nobody's fault, router reset). Of course the best is when you all finally log in again and the game has completely changed again. Dust is for playing with friends for me. I don't have any other reason to log in. That and all the CoD and BF* kiddies are tiresome. You must not be very good at either Cod or BF. PS. I run into very few kids on BF. BF is more objective than you think. Ever heard of conquest? I have seen games where one team has all the kills but still loses to the other because they were not bothering to capture the letters. I have also seen games where the top dude has had a ****** kdr but still had the most points from captures, revives, resupplies and spots.
CUSE WarLord KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2014.11.05 16:12:00 - [56] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: After reading a bunch of posts about people complaining that they cannot revive every downed clone they see I noticed a lot of people bitching about those who care what their KDR is. I honestly can't understand why anyone would not care in anyway what their KDR is. I care about my KDR because I use it as one of several means to develop an idea of how well I am doing when I face the competition and how well I am improving. Though my KDR was completely jacked when I first started playing I have been able to bring it back up by trying to become a better player. If you are one of those people who truly don't give a crap what your KDR is, or any of your stats for that matter, please let me know why. I would like to try to make sense of this viewpoint. because some of the people with the highest KDR are horribly bad players in PC. this stat on dust never gives the whole story of a players skill. some people play real cautious in pubs never really getting close to the objectives killing without trying to win. some of the people at the top of the leader bord have no gun game and get spanked in PC every night.
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 5	Posted - 2014.11.05 16:19:00 - [57] - Quote I have made an assessment of the mindset of a good portion of the people who play this game based on the responses I just read and I have assessed that this game is played by a lot of pathetic losers who fail so miserably in life to accomplish something on an individual level that they are forced to grasp at the accomplishments of others. Some of you people for some reason feel better about yourself if you lose as a team as opposed to accepting your loss on an individual basis. I don't understand how some of you people can think that a person caring about their KDR is counterproductive to the 15 other people on the team and their goal to win. It's like you are saying that if you care about your KDR you are now forced to ensure that no one on your team loses because if they do it is going to be your fault and wont have anything to do with that persons lack of skill. Some of you people are saying that caring about your KDR is a selfish move in a team oriented game yet the only reason I even questioned this was because of the complaints I read from people who are no longer allowed to spawn trap their teammates with the nanite injectors. Reading those complaints got me wondering what type of person would think that caring about your KDR is selfish but spawn trapping your own teammates for the sake of acquiring War Points wouldn't be selfish.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4822	Posted - 2014.11.05 16:26:00 - [58] - Quote Watching your KDR to judge your personal performance is a good thing, because you have the context to judge it by. Judging someone else by their KDR is a bad idea unless you know enough about their play style to put that into context. If you take actions which are detrimental, or at least not helpful, to your team in order to improve your KDR, then you care about your KDR too much. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Charlotte O'Dell Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 2494	Posted - 2014.11.05 16:45:00 - [59] - Quote Because during 1.7 or Chromosome, anyone could run a Madrugar with a blaster and have a 3.0 KDR with very little effort. It's not a very good stat at all. Plus, it's just a game. Some people measure success in ISK, some in KDR, some in WP... Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4437	Posted - 2014.11.05 16:52:00 - [60] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Because during 1.7 or Chromosome, anyone could run a Madrugar with a blaster and have a 3.0 KDR with very little effort. It's not a very good stat at all. Plus, it's just a game. Some people measure success in ISK, some in KDR, some in WP... Wow, people really are coming back from the dead around here. Pretty cool. (3.0 is also lowballing it quite a bit? Maybe for a 1.7 MLT tank, for a maddie I'd think you could double that for a pilot that wasn't totally clueless) (The godfather of tactical logistics)



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