1.Fair play but we didn't seem to have a problem with keeping millions of sp from beta now did we?, oh no.

2.What is this almost obsession or utmost important attitude with capping out?, I really don't get it.

3.Why are people behaving like the game is ruined partly because they don't have the time to cap out?. Its really not that important and if you are a vet, then you should care the least about it because you've got sp.

4.You are aware that you yourself will ve able to earn sp at something like x3 the rate now right?, sp costs aren't going up either. Nothing is actually going to change except that newbs can get up to our Kevel or if they put in the time, then they could get ahead. If they want to pay out the arse and support the game in doing so, then good stuff right?.

5.If they get ahead, how does that actually have a detrimental effect on you other than less stomping and more challenge?.

*Numbered for clarity in answering, hope you don't mind* First and foremost, that entire comment is a fair opinion and makes a lot of sense. Now to answer the questions...

1. Yes, I was an open player Vet for like the last month or so before it actually "went live". So I think I had like 1.5 million or so SP by that time. I will admit I was O.K. with keeping it, but wouldn't have minded if they had stated a reset of SP.

2. As for capping out, I've never gotten the obsession either. I've done it once the entire time I've played (the last Million Clone Challege. Like I said, I never come even close so it is something I don't worry about.

3. Same as #2. However, like I said, I'm only on about 21 million total, so I'm not as loaded as some people are.

4. Yep, I completely understand that and I'm not going to complain when I start banking 7500-10k SP in a match without a booster. I have a couple things I'm working on right now and that additional SP is going to come in extremely handy. As for paying out the arse, I see what you're saying there as well. It's not my wallet, so why should I care. Something along those lines?

5. You don't know me very well. I'm not a stomper by any means. In fact I'm probably the furthest thing from a stomper their is. I have a sub 1.0 KDR, regularly get my butt handed to me in 1 vs. 1 engagements, and if I wasn't running Logi suits and dropping uplinks/nanohives I would probably never even be in the top 1/2 of WP's in any match I play. LOL

All that said, and looking at your comments, I'm starting to agree with you. That is one of the most logical explanations I've seen as to the positives of the cap increase. What the hell is happening here? A forum discussion that is actually changing an opinion? Say it ain't so.

Fair play yeah.

I usually do nothing but joke about, but I'm seeing so much glass is half empty that I feel I need to actually get serious on this one.

You are right with your opinion but I promise you that overall, you'll end up liking its benefits and you won't notice anything different except better quality fights. Even if the newbs get proto in say a month, maybe a bit more, it will simply be double the fun a gunfight.

Sure thing we had to grind to fk and even pay for uvts just to chat in channels at one point as well, but this decision will undoubtedly give the game longevity and in that, we get to play it longer.

I disagree, they should implement a sort of system where new players get a very large cap like 750k per week and players with say 20mil+ have a smaller cap like 200k per week

[quote=Sequal Rise]I don't think you got my point TechMed. I don't care that new players can have better gears easily. It's nice for them and will make games more competitive (we'll see^^ Blueberries can be really stupid).

The problem with that new SP cap is that it'll be TOO easy. There will no longer be this feeling of "ok I have to make a choice now: this skill or this one? Hmm it'll take some time anyway." This is what make Dust a long lifetime/ durability game.

None of that mattered after the damage fan fest did so the game must change accordingly. With the way the game is going, it needs to be more easily accessible for newer players on every level. Please define too much in a factual manner, you can't, that's just your opinion.

With so much SP every week, what used to make Dust a game based on choices and SP decisions will be gone. And to me it was the best part of it.

With more sp every week, they will still matter and you can make more choices that matter, whatever that means to you (grinding sht loads it seems).


Dust is one of these games that you can't finish in 1 week, and that even after 1 year you still have skills to earn. Now it'll just go so fast that in 2 months everybody will have everything and it'll be boring as hell..

Congratulations mystic Meg, tell me more hypes about the future.


I get you totally, you just can't see how silly you are being, so you get silly answers.

I do get you, but you are simply ignore some glaringly obvious factors in favour of how you feel it should be.

I think you just can't wait to have these SP to have some skill that you always wanted earlier than planned. My answers may be silly to you, but again, you'll understand them later, when you'll have all the SP you ever wished so fast, and will have nothing else to do.

*facepalm* you have lost this one. Just go eat a taco or something. I have to side with that techmeds scrub on this one.

Yes, I'm very happy.

The amount if time it took to obtain all the Skills needed to be even a remote challenge to veterans was far too much, which made even Public Contracts unplayable for most new players.

Now that it won't take half a year to be competitive, we should see an increase in player retention and perhaps even more balanced matches, as more and more players will be able to put up a fight.

Sure, you can earn a lot of SP via SP Boosters, but after you get your cores maxed it doesn't help you win at all. The only thing you'd be accomplishing is increased versatility, something that can be done for free anyways.

It's already hard to find skills to put SP in, so much more SP will just accelerate the boredom. Side with whoever you want john, I respect and understand your point, you just dont really see mine.

Seriously? 2.2 Million a week? People are going to going from 0-proto every other week in a new suit. I don't ever come close to capping out now. With this formula, a brand new, fresh merc out of the academy, if s/he is willing to pay some money, will catch and surpass me in total SP in under 3 months (I'm at about 21 million SP right now). This is the definition of pay to win. I've had to grind for a year and a 1/2 (I did take a hiatus in the middle and I have other obligations outside this game) to get to that point. Someone can walk in, throw some cash around, and surpass me in total SP in 1/6th the time simply because they are willing to pay? If this is the case, why have a cap at all? Let people stack 5 Omega Boosters with no cap and let people hit 10 million a week. Or 20 Million a week. At what point WILL it be too much for you?

been playing about 7 monnths and i have almost 30 nil sp so why does it matter to you if they pass you up because i got all my sp in about 1/3 of the time that youve played.