Its like this thread was designed for that or something!

Instead of an anti-scout circle jerk where scrubs who have no idea how the game is balanced talk about their scrubby wishes to balance scouts (i.e. remove all equipment, make them sidearms only, make them worse at eWAR than med frames, etc.).

If you people who want scouts to be useless again can suck each other off in your own threads, we should be able to do it here.

Overall, scouts are pretty close to 100% balanced.

They need to remove shared passives, and make cloak dampening available at all levels, and I think they'd be in a very good place.

The only problem is players who don't pay attention to the game and instead look at a little circle in the upper right corner of the screen.

Those are the players who we prey on, because they are the only ones we can kill.

Best scouts are force multipliers, not pub stompers.

Slayers and Heavies establish the front lines. Logi's reinforce the lines.

Scouts are the ones to sneak around and muck up the lines. By flanking and ganking, you force them to divert attention to their flanks, allowing a frontal push in to the objective. This is achieved by assassinating key logistics or heavies to weaken the front, or by removing uplinks allowing for a push out.

Now, how do scouts manage to get all those kills in PC then? PC is freaking hectic that's why. There is SO much room to take advantage of that chaos and turn it into kills. That being said, this is only achieved when:

1.) Your team is strong enough to CREATE that chaos.

2.) You are good enough in 1v1 to allow you to survive DESPITE the order.

That being said, this only applies to PC. Pubs is just a kill fest.

Why do I bring this up?



Because I'm not that great a slayer. Yeah, I've met a lot of people who can 1v1 me better in scout suits. But that's not how I got on FA. I got in because while I wasn't the best slayer, I MADE THINGS HAPPEN.

Stealing objectives with 3 second hacks because you overextend.

Getting rid of your equip spam because you are too distracted by trying to slay in PC, then watching as I call out your position and let the heavies do the work.

Working WITH squad mates to take objectives through good uplink placement and zealous defense, at the expense of my KD/R.

THAT is what makes a scout. Not his K/D.

TL;DR

KD/R doesn't make a scout. You might win 1v1's with your "OP Scout Suit", but at the end of the day, I don't give a damn. I'd gladly take a 1.0 KD/R in PC and walk away with a win, even if I lose every fight to you.

THAT is skill. Being able to WIN BATTLES.

Min scout is still EEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ mode.

Real scouts punch people to death.

We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful.
We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

A couple of scouts on a map make running an assault suit unbearable. They're not so bad in ambush but my god Skirmish is owned by whatever team has the better scouts. It became an even bigger problem after the nerf to the burst HMG. I'd say 90% of my deaths are cloaked scouts that force me to pull out a cloaked scout just so I can compete with them.

An important point needs to be made here. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This is truth.

Just as much as CCP made dedicated scouts into super soldiers who hungered for challenge and, in fact, flourished in the dark ages of scouting, they also stunted heavies.

In contrast, for a long time, heavies have just had every crutch and as close to a win button as one could possible maintain in this game world. Now that everything is becoming normalized and balanced they, like a darwinian drama, can't compete.

I look forward to the day when "real heavy" competition comes to bear. The ones who didn't blame the world for their old ways becoming extinct. The ones who adapt and bring it.

These other useless heavies will just beach themselves on the shores of oblivion.

Lol at heavies who think they will just pick up a scout suit and pwn. Reality checks are in store for them

TL;DR: CCP made scout killers. Heavies will need to adapt to losing their overall crutches and near win button and begin to fight for real.

Or get left behind like the Neanderthals were by the Home Sapiens.

So then if lag is fixed, a longer fire delay is unnecessary, as he will appear uncloaked when he uncloaks.

Also, this shouldn't be much of a problem because of the shiny shine that the cloak gives off which is really noticeable at under 40 meters

only when theya re moving, they are 100% invis if they are smart enough to stand still and wait for us to pass by and then OHK us

Metric is superior in almost every way.

I still don't know why we haven't converted. The only legitimate reason I've ever heard is the cost. Apart from that, it just seems like a lot of people don't want to have to learn metric (Which is dumb, since its easier to use than English when you learn it. None of that 5280 ft to a mile or 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard.)

You absolutely do know why America hasn't switched.

because they are the special little snowflake who wants to be different then its parent countries

I'm from the UK mate.

We did change but both are used everywhere and both are used for various things, I liken it to the American English language change.

Noah Webster tried to simplify (dumb down in my eyes) the English language in America and 5 generations were taught his tosh. In the end, it was cast off as crap as his new loledition saw words like 'tongue' spelt as 'tung'. Regardless, you guys still use a lot of it as although a lot of it is simply no better than engwish, you guys still use the changes that are easier and make sense.

No offense meant, just pointing that out.

We use both relative to different measurements.

I also liken it to how us English swear a fair bit and don't talk properly (common speak), but when in a professional environment or engaging in serious matters, you'd think we were born with a silver spoon lodged betwix thine buttocks good sir.

And thank goodness for that. Despite the turmoil, diversity is a great thing.

You need to look up the definition of terrorist tactics. You're making the european education system look bad. the word is "guerilla tactics." Believe it or not there is a VERY distinct difference.

The funny thing is if you, as an american, grew up using the imperial system you don't want to change, but once you are exposed to the metric system you see why it's better instantly.

The only real problem I have is Fahrenheit to centigrade. I just can't wrap my head around it for some reason.. 30 degrees!? I better get my parka.. oops.

oh i know we use both but Metric is the accepted norm.. but so space raptor jesus help me.. when i want a size 13 spanner but can only find a 4/16th one or something

see.. that is a heavy for you.

HEavy version- See!? A scout 3 punched me to death! That is crazy! I have 1600EHP. WTF. SCOUT OP OP SCOUT OP!!!!


Whole story- Scout with 198EHP ran right up to a 1600EHP HMG wielding tank and punched him 3 times fully modded with myro instead of defense. Apparently the heavy did nothing to defend himself.

Self defense is OP, heavy. don't stand there like a donkey. Close your mouth and pull the trigger.

at like -46 they are the same iirc :P

- 40 is the same in either and having experienced this temperature to oftenGǪ
YesGǪ Damn cold no matter how you measure it

And thank goodness for that. Despite the turmoil, diversity is a great thing.

yup damn cold.

- 40 is the same in either and having experienced this temperature to oftenGǪ
YesGǪ Damn cold no matter how you measure it

you may have won independence via terrorist tactics but that dosnt change the fact your still useing a measurement system that is archaic and was what us Euro Trash used before we got smart and switched to metric because its more accurate.

The new universal temperature scale.

Hold your nuts

Too cold

Really fking cold

Cold

Chilly

Warm

Sweaty

Going commando

Speedos at dawn

Too hot

I'll be sterilised if this goes on much longer

Gtfo

Nuts forged in the Sahara.