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KalOfTheRathi wrote:

Dr PepperPoP wrote:

Statement regarding bugs, with limited reality.

The problem is you do not seem to understand our actual situation. CCP Rattiti is the developer for Dust514. He can balance the game by adjusting the values in the server side database. Parts of which (maybe all, who knows) are synchronized with the PS3 client when necessary. There are a few other CCPs but we are in the dark as to their actual responsibilities, maybe CCP LogiBro is necessary to quiet or fan the flames from the forums. Or to provide counter arguments to CCP Rattiti's proposed changes.

The rest of the development team is off doing a project called Legion. The majority of the issues you want solved can only be solved in Legion. There is no PS3 development planned. Legion is a development project that might become a game. A PC game. As it is uses the base assets of Dust514 some of the bugs/problems/map issues can be solved there. There is a forum section Legion but I have no idea if the development team tracks it.

Harassing CCP Rattiti will end up in frustration for everyone concerned. Give the man some support while realizing the fixes he can provide are limited. Very limited. Look at what has been addressed in the various Hot Fixes. Look at the bugs that you are so intently focused on. Do any of your bugs look like they can be fixed via the database? If so, politely, inform CCP Rattiti that you would like a change. Or to propose one, even to hear why it is a bad idea.

Move on from this attitude @Dr PepperPoP, it will only end in tears.

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Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 806	Posted - 2014.10.13 07:23:00 - [1] - Quote You must work together to get CCP to notice or care. Do not let issues just slide by as they get piled with 'QQ" threads. This game has legit problems for YEARS that CCP hasn't even commented on. If you want change - ask for it. work for it - make thread after thread complaining and pointing it out - CCP will not hear or listen otherwise, and we will be given no data or even an excuse as to why near game breaking bugs have stayed consistent for this long.
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1640	Posted - 2014.10.13 07:25:00 - [2] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: You must work together to get CCP to notice or care. Do not let issues just slide by as they get piled with 'QQ" threads. This game has legit problems for YEARS that CCP hasn't even commented on. If you want change - ask for it. work for it - make thread after thread complaining and pointing it out - CCP will not hear or listen otherwise, and we will be given no data or even an excuse as to why near game breaking bugs have stayed consistent for this long. http://youtu.be/RFZrzg62Zj0 Closed beta vet. Call me TrolLuna or Trollmare Moon, Reference link
danthrax martin Butcher's Nails 144	Posted - 2014.10.13 08:40:00 - [3] - Quote Sorry, but get bent. Pro Galmando - Gal Sentinel Suicidal A/V Moron
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3615	Posted - 2014.10.13 09:53:00 - [4] - Quote Go home SoTa alt. You're drunk.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 806	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:29:00 - [5] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: I like broken mechanics so I can abuse them and feel like a good player You should of just said this to begin with.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8585	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:53:00 - [6] - Quote This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Immortal John Ripper 25059	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:56:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. well said... sota... quit being the forum clown. that is my job. Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats Sorry catmerc
General John Ripper 25060	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:56:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. well said... sota... quit being the forum clown. that is my job. Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats Sorry catmerc
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 806	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:57:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Excuse me, since we've been down this path together before, Rat. You guys ignored the melee abuse until GD went nuts with what was going on. It was even a known bug that i believe you yourself mentioned being around since before Open Beta. A month worth of tickets from literally 3 corps worth of players got us nothing even. So why did it suddenly get fixed - because the improper channels were used to rage. Has using the proper channel fixed this problem after a year? No. But scream in GD long enough has proven VERY effective.
Immortal John Ripper 25059	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:00:00 - [10] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Excuse me, since we've been down this path together before, Rat. You guys ignored the melee abuse until GD went nuts with what was going on. It was even a known bug that i believe you yourself mentioned being around since before Open Beta. A month worth of tickets from literally 3 corps worth of players got us nothing even. So why did it suddenly get fixed - because the improper channels were used to rage. Has using the proper channel fixed this problem after a year? No. But scream in GD long enough has proven VERY effective. sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats Sorry catmerc

General John Ripper 25060	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:00:00 - [11] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Excuse me, since we've been down this path together before, Rat. You guys ignored the melee abuse until GD went nuts with what was going on. It was even a known bug that i believe you yourself mentioned being around since before Open Beta. A month worth of tickets from literally 3 corps worth of players got us nothing even. So why did it suddenly get fixed - because the improper channels were used to rage. Has using the proper channel fixed this problem after a year? No. But scream in GD long enough has proven VERY effective. sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats Sorry catmerc
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1351	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:20:00 - [12] - Quote Sad but true (mostly). Reality doesn't always go by the book. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 806	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:35:00 - [13] - Quote Rat - if you want posts on the subject in the 'proper' threads then go read em then explain to us why it can't/hasn't been fixed. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1467267#post1467267 Here's a post that mentions it back in november 2013. There's others as well, if you cared to actually check. So, what do I do, bump super old threads that are - wait for it - Locked? Do I make a new thread so you can lock and ignore that one too just like those? Do you see the problem here? In GD I know people will read about it and it'll be discussed and mused over - which highers the chances of anything getting done. The bugs are already reported - nothings been done.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 806	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:37:00 - [14] - Quote So, everyday I'll be making this thread and building awareness until something is done. That's the only way we've ever gotten you guys to be serious with serious issues. A year length of it being broken even after reports is proof enough that this needs to taken up a level for CCP to understand.
Skippy Longstocking Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 101	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:56:00 - [15] - Quote "Forum etiquette" should not be used as a convenient excuse to ignore and dismiss valid complaints and concerns. "You make a good point, too bad you made it in the wrong place/didn't ask nicely!" LOCKED!
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 116	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:56:00 - [16] - Quote Like I have said before if they continue with this lazy mentality their player base will die off. If they are serious about project legion this mentality has to change. You must hire game testers you cannot rely solely on a community to give you feed back. Their are way to many bugs and minor glitches that should have never been experienced by us for they should have been identified by testers earlier on. If ccp really wanted this game to succeed that is the coarse they would have taken. I think this whole project was a money grab for legion, except they have killed most of their player base by going about it the way they did. So I say shape up now and save this game and its dwindling playerbase, and these hotfixes arw not good enough we want the game we were promised.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3617	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:58:00 - [17] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I like broken mechanics so I can abuse them and feel like a good player You should of just said this to begin with. None of the broken mechanics have ever been ones I could take advantage of. Go home SoTa. You're drunk. You also fail at being clever and funny.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 807	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:59:00 - [18] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: [I haven't derailed this thread enough by spreading how bad I am. we get it, we get it, you don't like CCP fixing things. Shesh.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3338	Posted - 2014.10.13 17:14:00 - [19] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: [I haven't derailed this thread enough by spreading how bad I am. we get it, we get it, you don't like CCP fixing things. Shesh. Breakin might be one of the few folks I'd say who aren't causing trouble/abusing mechanics... http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3781	Posted - 2014.10.13 17:54:00 - [20] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Excuse me, since we've been down this path together before, Rat. You guys ignored the melee abuse until GD went nuts with what was going on. It was even a known bug that i believe you yourself mentioned being around since before Open Beta. A month worth of tickets from literally 3 corps worth of players got us nothing even. So why did it suddenly get fixed - because the improper channels were used to rage. Has using the proper channel fixed this problem after a year? No. But scream in GD long enough has proven VERY effective. This really ruined pc for me. Not only have assaults (which is the only suits I have) been completely useless in pc but this glitch that made decent players think they're good or maybe they did it to annoy the others cuz CCP didn't do a thing about it and just let it slide. CCP was well aware of this glitch and still allowed this player to abuse it for months. Or the invisible glitch that had something to do with dropships, the user would get out and be completely invisible tell he was killed. And for tanks you care to much for the AV solo whiners. Get rid of adv/ proto tanks cuz I can't solo them they're not fair. I'm not trying to be mean cuz Rat has done a lot but for us closed beta vets we have been through a lot, those of us left have hit the point of being too annoyed to care anymore. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 602	Posted - 2014.10.13 18:19:00 - [21] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. What was the melee glitch? The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 821	Posted - 2014.10.13 18:34:00 - [22] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. What was the melee glitch? It was the dark times of Dust.... Nobody was safe from Arirana's ATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA.
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1053	Posted - 2014.10.13 20:45:00 - [23] - Quote I'm rather curious about this melee glitch... it sounds fun for some reason... Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 825	Posted - 2014.10.13 21:39:00 - [24] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: I'm rather curious about this melee glitch... it sounds fun for some reason... It would insta kill fully armor/shield stack heavies. And after that heavy is insta kill the rest of that 5 man squad would be insta killed before they knew wtf happened. Add in the scanner+run glitch - it was INSANE Lol
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1392	Posted - 2014.10.13 21:41:00 - [25] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Statement regarding bugs, with limited reality. The problem is you do not seem to understand our actual situation. CCP Rattiti is the developer for Dust514. He can balance the game by adjusting the values in the server side database. Parts of which (maybe all, who knows) are synchronized with the PS3 client when necessary. There are a few other CCPs but we are in the dark as to their actual responsibilities, maybe CCP LogiBro is necessary to quiet or fan the flames from the forums. Or to provide counter arguments to CCP Rattiti's proposed changes. The rest of the development team is off doing a project called Legion. The majority of the issues you want solved can only be solved in Legion. There is no PS3 development planned. Legion is a development project that might become a game. A PC game. As it is uses the base assets of Dust514 some of the bugs/problems/map issues can be solved there. There is a forum section Legion but I have no idea if the development team tracks it. Harassing CCP Rattiti will end up in frustration for everyone concerned. Give the man some support while realizing the fixes he can provide are limited. Very limited. Look at what has been addressed in the various Hot Fixes. Look at the bugs that you are so intently focused on. Do any of your bugs look like they can be fixed via the database? If so, politely, inform CCP Rattiti that you would like a change. Or to propose one, even to hear why it is a bad idea. Move on from this attitude @Dr PepperPoP, it will only end in tears. In New Eden no SP is wisely spent. CCP will Nerf the reason right out from under you.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 825	Posted - 2014.10.13 21:46:00 - [26] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: Statement regarding bugs, with limited reality. The problem is you do not seem to understand our actual situation. CCP Rattiti is the developer for Dust514. He can balance the game by adjusting the values in the server side database. Parts of which (maybe all, who knows) are synchronized with the PS3 client when necessary. There are a few other CCPs but we are in the dark as to their actual responsibilities, maybe CCP LogiBro is necessary to quiet or fan the flames from the forums. Or to provide counter arguments to CCP Rattiti's proposed changes. The rest of the development team is off doing a project called Legion. The majority of the issues you want solved can only be solved in Legion. There is no PS3 development planned. Legion is a development project that might become a game. A PC game. As it is uses the base assets of Dust514 some of the bugs/problems/map issues can be solved there. There is a forum section Legion but I have no idea if the development team tracks it. Harassing CCP Rattiti will end up in frustration for everyone concerned. Give the man some support while realizing the fixes he can provide are limited. Very limited. Look at what has been addressed in the various Hot Fixes. Look at the bugs that you are so intently focused on. Do any of your bugs look like they can be fixed via the database? If so, politely, inform CCP Rattiti that you would like a change. Or to propose one, even to hear why it is a bad idea. Move on from this attitude @Dr PepperPoP, it will only end in tears. I really don't even know why you posted this. It's already obvious I knew all of this, and am saying it doesn't work. And have even given examples of times when doing this method has proven to be effective over the method you'd prefer me to use. And Rat has been informed - for a year. Time to start screaming or enjoy CCP putting effort into BPOs rather then bugs. Because, like you said, it's a limited team thanks to Legion.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1081	Posted - 2014.10.13 21:48:00 - [27] - Quote cough caldari scout hitbox cough Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1082	Posted - 2014.10.13 21:50:00 - [28] - Quote cough Scr Heat glitch cough Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3626	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:23:00 - [29] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: I really don't even know why you posted this. It's already obvious I knew all of this, and am saying it doesn't work. And have even given examples of times when doing this method has proven to be effective over the method you'd prefer me to use. And Rat has been informed - for a year. Time to start screaming or enjoy CCP putting effort into BPOs rather then bugs. Because, like you said, it's a limited team thanks to Legion. Because stamping your feet and screaming like a child is much more effective. It all makes sense now, I've been doing it wrong the whole time!
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 825	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:24:00 - [30] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: I really don't even know why you posted this. It's already obvious I knew all of this, and am saying it doesn't work. And have even given examples of times when doing this method has proven to be effective over the method you'd prefer me to use. And Rat has been informed - for a year. Time to start screaming or enjoy CCP putting effort into BPOs rather then bugs. Because, like you said, it's a limited team thanks to Legion. Because stamping your feet and screaming like a child is much more effective. It all makes sense now, I've been doing it wrong the whole time! Obviously if the same bugs have been in the game for a year... How does that not compute with you?



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