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Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 806	Posted - 2014.10.13 07:23:00 - [1] - Quote You must work together to get CCP to notice or care. Do not let issues just slide by as they get piled with 'QQ" threads. This game has legit problems for YEARS that CCP hasn't even commented on. If you want change - ask for it. work for it - make thread after thread complaining and pointing it out - CCP will not hear or listen otherwise, and we will be given no data or even an excuse as to why near game breaking bugs have stayed consistent for this long.
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1640	Posted - 2014.10.13 07:25:00 - [2] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: You must work together to get CCP to notice or care. Do not let issues just slide by as they get piled with 'QQ" threads. This game has legit problems for YEARS that CCP hasn't even commented on. If you want change - ask for it. work for it - make thread after thread complaining and pointing it out - CCP will not hear or listen otherwise, and we will be given no data or even an excuse as to why near game breaking bugs have stayed consistent for this long. http://youtu.be/RFZrzg62Zj0 Closed beta vet. Call me TrolLuna or Trollmare Moon, Reference link
danthrax martin Butcher's Nails 144	Posted - 2014.10.13 08:40:00 - [3] - Quote Sorry, but get bent. Pro Galmando - Gal Sentinel Suicidal A/V Moron
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3615	Posted - 2014.10.13 09:53:00 - [4] - Quote Go home SoTa alt. You're drunk.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 806	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:29:00 - [5] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: I like broken mechanics so I can abuse them and feel like a good player You should of just said this to begin with.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8585	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:53:00 - [6] - Quote This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Immortal John Ripper 25059	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:56:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. well said... sota... quit being the forum clown. that is my job. Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats Sorry catmerc
General John Ripper 25060	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:56:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. well said... sota... quit being the forum clown. that is my job. Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats Sorry catmerc
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 806	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:57:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Excuse me, since we've been down this path together before, Rat. You guys ignored the melee abuse until GD went nuts with what was going on. It was even a known bug that i believe you yourself mentioned being around since before Open Beta. A month worth of tickets from literally 3 corps worth of players got us nothing even. So why did it suddenly get fixed - because the improper channels were used to rage. Has using the proper channel fixed this problem after a year? No. But scream in GD long enough has proven VERY effective.
Immortal John Ripper 25059	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:00:00 - [10] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Excuse me, since we've been down this path together before, Rat. You guys ignored the melee abuse until GD went nuts with what was going on. It was even a known bug that i believe you yourself mentioned being around since before Open Beta. A month worth of tickets from literally 3 corps worth of players got us nothing even. So why did it suddenly get fixed - because the improper channels were used to rage. Has using the proper channel fixed this problem after a year? No. But scream in GD long enough has proven VERY effective. sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats Sorry catmerc

General John Ripper 25060	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:00:00 - [11] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Excuse me, since we've been down this path together before, Rat. You guys ignored the melee abuse until GD went nuts with what was going on. It was even a known bug that i believe you yourself mentioned being around since before Open Beta. A month worth of tickets from literally 3 corps worth of players got us nothing even. So why did it suddenly get fixed - because the improper channels were used to rage. Has using the proper channel fixed this problem after a year? No. But scream in GD long enough has proven VERY effective. sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats Sorry catmerc
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1351	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:20:00 - [12] - Quote Sad but true (mostly). Reality doesn't always go by the book. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 806	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:35:00 - [13] - Quote Rat - if you want posts on the subject in the 'proper' threads then go read em then explain to us why it can't/hasn't been fixed. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1467267#post1467267 Here's a post that mentions it back in november 2013. There's others as well, if you cared to actually check. So, what do I do, bump super old threads that are - wait for it - Locked? Do I make a new thread so you can lock and ignore that one too just like those? Do you see the problem here? In GD I know people will read about it and it'll be discussed and mused over - which highers the chances of anything getting done. The bugs are already reported - nothings been done.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 806	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:37:00 - [14] - Quote So, everyday I'll be making this thread and building awareness until something is done. That's the only way we've ever gotten you guys to be serious with serious issues. A year length of it being broken even after reports is proof enough that this needs to taken up a level for CCP to understand.
Skippy Longstocking Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 101	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:56:00 - [15] - Quote "Forum etiquette" should not be used as a convenient excuse to ignore and dismiss valid complaints and concerns. "You make a good point, too bad you made it in the wrong place/didn't ask nicely!" LOCKED!
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 116	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:56:00 - [16] - Quote Like I have said before if they continue with this lazy mentality their player base will die off. If they are serious about project legion this mentality has to change. You must hire game testers you cannot rely solely on a community to give you feed back. Their are way to many bugs and minor glitches that should have never been experienced by us for they should have been identified by testers earlier on. If ccp really wanted this game to succeed that is the coarse they would have taken. I think this whole project was a money grab for legion, except they have killed most of their player base by going about it the way they did. So I say shape up now and save this game and its dwindling playerbase, and these hotfixes arw not good enough we want the game we were promised.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3617	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:58:00 - [17] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I like broken mechanics so I can abuse them and feel like a good player You should of just said this to begin with. None of the broken mechanics have ever been ones I could take advantage of. Go home SoTa. You're drunk. You also fail at being clever and funny.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 807	Posted - 2014.10.13 11:59:00 - [18] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: [I haven't derailed this thread enough by spreading how bad I am. we get it, we get it, you don't like CCP fixing things. Shesh.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3338	Posted - 2014.10.13 17:14:00 - [19] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: [I haven't derailed this thread enough by spreading how bad I am. we get it, we get it, you don't like CCP fixing things. Shesh. Breakin might be one of the few folks I'd say who aren't causing trouble/abusing mechanics... http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3781	Posted - 2014.10.13 17:54:00 - [20] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Excuse me, since we've been down this path together before, Rat. You guys ignored the melee abuse until GD went nuts with what was going on. It was even a known bug that i believe you yourself mentioned being around since before Open Beta. A month worth of tickets from literally 3 corps worth of players got us nothing even. So why did it suddenly get fixed - because the improper channels were used to rage. Has using the proper channel fixed this problem after a year? No. But scream in GD long enough has proven VERY effective. This really ruined pc for me. Not only have assaults (which is the only suits I have) been completely useless in pc but this glitch that made decent players think they're good or maybe they did it to annoy the others cuz CCP didn't do a thing about it and just let it slide. CCP was well aware of this glitch and still allowed this player to abuse it for months. Or the invisible glitch that had something to do with dropships, the user would get out and be completely invisible tell he was killed. And for tanks you care to much for the AV solo whiners. Get rid of adv/ proto tanks cuz I can't solo them they're not fair. I'm not trying to be mean cuz Rat has done a lot but for us closed beta vets we have been through a lot, those of us left have hit the point of being too annoyed to care anymore. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 602	Posted - 2014.10.13 18:19:00 - [21] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. What was the melee glitch? The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 821	Posted - 2014.10.13 18:34:00 - [22] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. What was the melee glitch? It was the dark times of Dust.... Nobody was safe from Arirana's ATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA.
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1053	Posted - 2014.10.13 20:45:00 - [23] - Quote I'm rather curious about this melee glitch... it sounds fun for some reason... Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 825	Posted - 2014.10.13 21:39:00 - [24] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: I'm rather curious about this melee glitch... it sounds fun for some reason... It would insta kill fully armor/shield stack heavies. And after that heavy is insta kill the rest of that 5 man squad would be insta killed before they knew wtf happened. Add in the scanner+run glitch - it was INSANE Lol
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1392	Posted - 2014.10.13 21:41:00 - [25] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Statement regarding bugs, with limited reality. The problem is you do not seem to understand our actual situation. CCP Rattiti is the developer for Dust514. He can balance the game by adjusting the values in the server side database. Parts of which (maybe all, who knows) are synchronized with the PS3 client when necessary. There are a few other CCPs but we are in the dark as to their actual responsibilities, maybe CCP LogiBro is necessary to quiet or fan the flames from the forums. Or to provide counter arguments to CCP Rattiti's proposed changes. The rest of the development team is off doing a project called Legion. The majority of the issues you want solved can only be solved in Legion. There is no PS3 development planned. Legion is a development project that might become a game. A PC game. As it is uses the base assets of Dust514 some of the bugs/problems/map issues can be solved there. There is a forum section Legion but I have no idea if the development team tracks it. Harassing CCP Rattiti will end up in frustration for everyone concerned. Give the man some support while realizing the fixes he can provide are limited. Very limited. Look at what has been addressed in the various Hot Fixes. Look at the bugs that you are so intently focused on. Do any of your bugs look like they can be fixed via the database? If so, politely, inform CCP Rattiti that you would like a change. Or to propose one, even to hear why it is a bad idea. Move on from this attitude @Dr PepperPoP, it will only end in tears. In New Eden no SP is wisely spent. CCP will Nerf the reason right out from under you.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 825	Posted - 2014.10.13 21:46:00 - [26] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: Statement regarding bugs, with limited reality. The problem is you do not seem to understand our actual situation. CCP Rattiti is the developer for Dust514. He can balance the game by adjusting the values in the server side database. Parts of which (maybe all, who knows) are synchronized with the PS3 client when necessary. There are a few other CCPs but we are in the dark as to their actual responsibilities, maybe CCP LogiBro is necessary to quiet or fan the flames from the forums. Or to provide counter arguments to CCP Rattiti's proposed changes. The rest of the development team is off doing a project called Legion. The majority of the issues you want solved can only be solved in Legion. There is no PS3 development planned. Legion is a development project that might become a game. A PC game. As it is uses the base assets of Dust514 some of the bugs/problems/map issues can be solved there. There is a forum section Legion but I have no idea if the development team tracks it. Harassing CCP Rattiti will end up in frustration for everyone concerned. Give the man some support while realizing the fixes he can provide are limited. Very limited. Look at what has been addressed in the various Hot Fixes. Look at the bugs that you are so intently focused on. Do any of your bugs look like they can be fixed via the database? If so, politely, inform CCP Rattiti that you would like a change. Or to propose one, even to hear why it is a bad idea. Move on from this attitude @Dr PepperPoP, it will only end in tears. I really don't even know why you posted this. It's already obvious I knew all of this, and am saying it doesn't work. And have even given examples of times when doing this method has proven to be effective over the method you'd prefer me to use. And Rat has been informed - for a year. Time to start screaming or enjoy CCP putting effort into BPOs rather then bugs. Because, like you said, it's a limited team thanks to Legion.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1081	Posted - 2014.10.13 21:48:00 - [27] - Quote cough caldari scout hitbox cough Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1082	Posted - 2014.10.13 21:50:00 - [28] - Quote cough Scr Heat glitch cough Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3626	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:23:00 - [29] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: I really don't even know why you posted this. It's already obvious I knew all of this, and am saying it doesn't work. And have even given examples of times when doing this method has proven to be effective over the method you'd prefer me to use. And Rat has been informed - for a year. Time to start screaming or enjoy CCP putting effort into BPOs rather then bugs. Because, like you said, it's a limited team thanks to Legion. Because stamping your feet and screaming like a child is much more effective. It all makes sense now, I've been doing it wrong the whole time!
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 825	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:24:00 - [30] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: I really don't even know why you posted this. It's already obvious I knew all of this, and am saying it doesn't work. And have even given examples of times when doing this method has proven to be effective over the method you'd prefer me to use. And Rat has been informed - for a year. Time to start screaming or enjoy CCP putting effort into BPOs rather then bugs. Because, like you said, it's a limited team thanks to Legion. Because stamping your feet and screaming like a child is much more effective. It all makes sense now, I've been doing it wrong the whole time! Obviously if the same bugs have been in the game for a year... How does that not compute with you?

Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 825	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:26:00 - [31] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: I bash my head against the wall over and over again expecting different results This is all your basically saying.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3626	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:39:00 - [32] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I bash my head against the wall over and over again expecting different results This is all your basically saying. Nah, CCP removed the only glitch I liked. I had killed over 200 blueberries in pubmatches with the nade ganking trick before CCP decided they hated fun and removed it. And no, I'm not the one who posts the same stupid rant thread over and over and over... So who was it that keeps doing the same thing and expects different results?
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 826	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:42:00 - [33] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I bash my head against the wall over and over again expecting different results This is all your basically saying. Nah, CCP removed the only glitch I liked. I had killed over 200 blueberries in pubmatches with the nade ganking trick before CCP decided they hated fun and removed it. And no, I'm not the one who posts the same stupid rant thread over and over and over... So who was it that keeps doing the same thing and expects different results? Are you talking bout the same nade glitch everyone was given? Because, generally, when it's broken on a gear majority of players use - CCP is quick to fix before tears come in. But with not so popular gear - like let's say - rail tanks - there won't be any jumping.
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 119	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:42:00 - [34] - Quote maluble wrote: Like I have said before if they continue with this lazy mentality their player base will die off. If they are serious about project legion this mentality has to change. You must hire game testers you cannot rely solely on a community to give you feed back. Their are way to many bugs and minor glitches that should have never been experienced by us for they should have been identified by testers earlier on. If ccp really wanted this game to succeed that is the coarse they would have taken. I think this whole project was a money grab for legion, except they have killed most of their player base by going about it the way they did. So I say shape up now and save this game and its dwindling playerbase, and these hotfixes arw not good enough we want the game we were promised. By the way when I mention ccp im not refering to rat for he has do more for this gsme combined than the other devs/cpm. I feel they dumped their responsibilitys on him for they were too lazy to finish something they started and moved on to do other things (very child like). When glitches/bugs are presented it is your duty to positively identify them and fix, it shouldnt matter the category its posted in for their arw likr 20 sections of nonsense we need one called fix that ****. I think ccp has failed to understand keeping customer happy is what leads to profits.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3626	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:57:00 - [35] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: I bash my head against the wall over and over again expecting different results This is all your basically saying. Nah, CCP removed the only glitch I liked. I had killed over 200 blueberries in pubmatches with the nade ganking trick before CCP decided they hated fun and removed it. And no, I'm not the one who posts the same stupid rant thread over and over and over... So who was it that keeps doing the same thing and expects different results? Are you talking bout the same nade glitch everyone was given? Because, generally, when it's broken on a gear majority of players use - CCP is quick to fix before tears come in. But with not so popular gear - like let's say - rail tanks - there won't be any jumping. I prefer to think of it less as a "nade glitch" and more as a "treasured memory of removing Thale's Sniper Rifles from the game by the dozen." Goons: Creating solutions to redline snipers since Closed Beta. You're welcome.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9741	Posted - 2014.10.14 02:30:00 - [36] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: sabre prime wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. What was the melee glitch? It was the dark times of Dust.... Nobody was safe from Arirana's ATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA. And to think the melee was considered more powerful than my Ishukone Nova Knives back then. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Appia Nappia 1355	Posted - 2014.10.14 04:17:00 - [37] - Quote I like the Scrambler/Laser Rifle one where if you hit crouch then sprint you could circumvent the stun, you still took more overheat damage if you fired for too long so it was a lot better than the blatantly broken things like permanent invisibility that could be achieved every spawn. Didn't that take until 1.3 to get fixed? Oh, wait, you mean this thread isn't for reminiscing about our favorite bugs in DUST? So very tired
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3785	Posted - 2014.10.14 04:43:00 - [38] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: I'm rather curious about this melee glitch... it sounds fun for some reason... It would insta kill fully armor/shield stack heavies. And after that heavy is insta kill the rest of that 5 man squad would be insta killed before they knew wtf happened. Add in the scanner+run glitch - it was INSANE Lol And scanner +shoot at the same time. Hated it. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
lunatis orrak Battlefield Brawlers 50	Posted - 2014.10.14 04:58:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Your best is a joke fits you perfectly.i will be here undermining every post till your gone .yea use the proper channels like yall even listen in there ok SO ANYONE I MEAN ANYONE CAN HELP ME WITH THIS ONE TELL ME I TRULY DO NOT KNOW BUT SAY THE RUNNING GLITCH AFTER SWITCHING EQUIPMENT IS IT STILL THERE? IM PRETTY SURE OF THE ANSWER SO I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU TO TAKE YOUR PROPER CHANNELS AND SHOVE THEM. CHUBBY CHASER FOR LIFE `!BEWARE MY FAT BULLDOGS! The leash is not for your protection`
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6672	Posted - 2014.10.14 06:22:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Bro, we used the proper channels and even had videos of the sprint bug. You even went into a forum thread mentioning that you'd never heard of it (much to the surprise of the -entire- community) and it -still- hasn't gotten fixed I mean, no offense, but I have an entire youtube channel that shows a plethora of bugs that still occur (since December, even) but you even mentioned that you wanted players to record the bugs to find them... but, apparently, we have to continuously repost the same threads/videos in order for them to get noticed because if they're too old no-one will see them! This was one of the things I was mentioning a while back about communication - we use the proper avenues that you guys want us to but nothing ever happens and it somehow goes unnoticed. If we had proper support for and ISD volunteer-based bug hunting team (something I've been bitching about for years at this point) which can contact the appropriate devs DIRECTLY, we might not have this problem. { \| bittervetmode = 1 I } == Description == This player has reached their breaking point [[Category: Angry]]

Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 408	Posted - 2014.10.14 07:23:00 - [41] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. What was the melee glitch? You're telling your age kid. "Anybody order chaos?"
General John Ripper 25081	Posted - 2014.10.14 09:56:00 - [42] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: sabre prime wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. What was the melee glitch? You're telling your age kid. It was an insta kill tactic ancient exiles would use against other teams frequently... Especially vs Team players. It ruined competitive play. Every pc match you would see in the kill feed melee kill melee kill melee kill. The same people who abused this insta kill glitch were the ones responsible for the blue donut of mh and ruining competitive + fair play. CCP didn't want to fix it so we spent a LOOOOOONG time trying to win matches with an insta kill glitcher. There was a huge concern over them abusing it in competitive matches. It was a cancer to the game and I would say that this is the very first time where I started seeing more and more vets leaving. It wasn't all blamed on this glitch though... There were other reasons on top of it that were just piling up but it was icing on the cake that proved to us how pointless pc really is. Would u want to play a game where you play fairly and the enemy just has to press a single button to insta kill you and your entire squad? Games where you knew you could win but some kid felt like abusing the game to ruin fun for everyone just to steal a win? So what happened after we all decided to leave? blue donut. People used to hate on team players and eon... but for all the wrong reasons. Its never taken me so long to get 50 likes to break 25k Conclusion:Dust community prefers puppies > cats Sorry catmerc
Immortal John Ripper 25089	Posted - 2014.10.14 09:56:00 - [43] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: sabre prime wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. What was the melee glitch? You're telling your age kid. It was an insta kill tactic ancient exiles would use against other teams frequently... Especially vs Team players. It ruined competitive play. Every pc match you would see in the kill feed melee kill melee kill melee kill. The same people who abused this insta kill glitch were the ones responsible for the blue donut of mh and ruining competitive + fair play. CCP didn't want to fix it so we spent a LOOOOOONG time trying to win matches with an insta kill glitcher. There was a huge concern over them abusing it in competitive matches. It was a cancer to the game and I would say that this is the very first time where I started seeing more and more vets leaving. It wasn't all blamed on this glitch though... There were other reasons on top of it that were just piling up but it was icing on the cake that proved to us how pointless pc really is. Would u want to play a game where you play fairly and the enemy just has to press a single button to insta kill you and your entire squad? Games where you knew you could win but some kid felt like abusing the game to ruin fun for everyone just to steal a win? So what happened after we all decided to leave? blue donut. People used to hate on team players and eon... but for all the wrong reasons. Dear Diary - The thoughts of a madman.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 408	Posted - 2014.10.14 14:25:00 - [44] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: sabre prime wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: sota has a point... the melee glitch almost caused me to quit even earlier. it was complete bs. What was the melee glitch? You're telling your age kid. It was an insta kill tactic ancient exiles would use against other teams frequently... Especially vs Team players. It ruined competitive play. Every pc match you would see in the kill feed melee kill melee kill melee kill. The same people who abused this insta kill glitch were the ones responsible for the blue donut of mh and ruining competitive + fair play. CCP didn't want to fix it so we spent a LOOOOOONG time trying to win matches with an insta kill glitcher. There was a huge concern over them abusing it in competitive matches. It was a cancer to the game and I would say that this is the very first time where I started seeing more and more vets leaving. It wasn't all blamed on this glitch though... There were other reasons on top of it that were just piling up but it was icing on the cake that proved to us how pointless pc really is. Would u want to play a game where you play fairly and the enemy just has to press a single button to insta kill you and your entire squad? Games where you knew you could win but some kid felt like abusing the game to ruin fun for everyone just to steal a win? So what happened after we all decided to leave? blue donut. People used to hate on team players and eon... but for all the wrong reasons. Yeah what he said! Kind of like FOTM, the bolt pistol (hand cannon), inertia-less movement of scouts, scout run glitch, rendering when in a dropship, modded controllers, wrecking RDV drunkenness lol, and many other things that clearly need fixing. It's hard to play competitively when the other team is using broken mechanics to win?! They don't have the integrity and intestinal fortitude to win or lose fair and square so they run glitches and take advantage of broken mechanics. When you report these things very few are actually dealt with?! Rattati is my hero in comparison to his predecessors, but he's one man. Before CCP scraps this game they need to focus on some of these things so it doesn't carry over to legion. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 408	Posted - 2014.10.14 14:34:00 - [45] - Quote Zindorak wrote: cough caldari scout hitbox cough The hell with a cough that needs to be put on the front burner!! Trying to hit them is like aiming for a stop sign pole from 100 yards out! I would like to know CCP's suggestion to killing them other than KN's? Shield weapons like the AR don't work as intended even with sharpshooter and prof 3?! "Anybody order chaos?"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2175	Posted - 2014.10.14 14:40:00 - [46] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: You must work together to get CCP to notice or care. Do not let issues just slide by as they get piled with 'QQ" threads. This game has legit problems for YEARS that CCP hasn't even commented on. If you want change - ask for it. work for it - make thread after thread complaining and pointing it out - CCP will not hear or listen otherwise, and we will be given no data or even an excuse as to why near game breaking bugs have stayed consistent for this long. Been pointing out turret problems for a year, they haven't changed anything. They've been "looking into it" for a year. When a pattern develops, people tend to stop caring. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1686	Posted - 2014.10.14 14:42:00 - [47] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Zindorak wrote: cough caldari scout hitbox cough The hell with a cough that needs to be put on the front burner!! Trying to hit them is like aiming for a stop sign pole from 100 yards out! I would like to know CCP's suggestion to killing them other than KN's? Shield weapons like the AR don't work as intended even with sharpshooter and prof 3?! There is no hitbox issues unique to Cal Scouts. You just are having trouble hitting fast-moving targets along with many of the remaining good killers in this game running that suit. First, the devs confirmed there are no hitbox isues. But, please be cynical, and don't believe them. Run a test. Queue sync with a buddy onto opposite sides of a factional warfare. Get two scouts that strafe the same speed (i.e. fast like an un-armor-plated Cal Scout so typically seen on the battlefield) and one of the non-Cal Scouts. Now, do some tests (like we did) and find out that the real issue you're seeing is strafe-speed related (and frame-rate/lag related) rather than anything inherently wrong with the Cal Scout hit box...because you'll see the same thing will all fast-strafing scouts (and Min Assaults too). Or just keep complaining about some fictional problem and see where that gets you.....Leadfoot p.s. just like MKB provides some magical advantage to strafe speed, the Cal Scout hitbox issue is an excuse to explain lackluster gun skills and how the game reacts -- for all of us -- to low frame rate and fast moving targets....and easily confirmed through actual testing.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3785	Posted - 2014.10.14 17:02:00 - [48] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Zindorak wrote: cough caldari scout hitbox cough The hell with a cough that needs to be put on the front burner!! Trying to hit them is like aiming for a stop sign pole from 100 yards out! I would like to know CCP's suggestion to killing them other than KN's? Shield weapons like the AR don't work as intended even with sharpshooter and prof 3?! There is no hitbox issues unique to Cal Scouts. You just are having trouble hitting fast-moving targets along with many of the remaining good killers in this game running that suit. First, the devs confirmed there are no hitbox isues. But, please be cynical, and don't believe them. Run a test. Queue sync with a buddy onto opposite sides of a factional warfare. Get one non-Cal scout (i.e. any of them will do, just don't use any plates) and a Cal Scout. Now, do some tests (like we did) and find out that the real issue you're seeing is strafe-speed related (and frame-rate/lag related) rather than anything inherently wrong with the Cal Scout hit box...because you'll see the same thing will all fast-strafing scouts (and Min Assaults too). Or just keep complaining about some fictional problem and see where that gets you.....Leadfoot p.s. just like MKB provides some magical advantage to strafe speed, the Cal Scout hitbox issue is an excuse to explain lackluster gun skills and how the game reacts -- for all of us -- to low frame rate and fast moving targets....and easily confirmed through actual testing. Actually my bro and I tested this. There is a hit detection problem on cal scouts when using a RR but only the cal scout. We didn't take a vid and idc too. If someone doesn't believe it then they're the ones who should test it. But I could care less since I don't play anymore. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1040	Posted - 2014.10.14 17:57:00 - [49] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. Here is an idea, maybe stop wasting your time in improper threads and get those blue tags on the threads in the proper channels.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2549	Posted - 2014.10.14 18:00:00 - [50] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: I would like to know CCP's suggestion to killing them other than KN's? Plasma Cannon, it's hilarious I also ironically use it on a Caldari Scout though... "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire

Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 409	Posted - 2014.10.14 19:47:00 - [51] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Zindorak wrote: cough caldari scout hitbox cough The hell with a cough that needs to be put on the front burner!! Trying to hit them is like aiming for a stop sign pole from 100 yards out! I would like to know CCP's suggestion to killing them other than KN's? Shield weapons like the AR don't work as intended even with sharpshooter and prof 3?! There is no hitbox issues unique to Cal Scouts. You just are having trouble hitting fast-moving targets along with many of the remaining good killers in this game running that suit. First, the devs confirmed there are no hitbox isues. But, please be cynical, and don't believe them. Run a test. Queue sync with a buddy onto opposite sides of a factional warfare. Get one non-Cal scout (i.e. any of them will do, just don't use any plates) and a Cal Scout. Now, do some tests (like we did) and find out that the real issue you're seeing is strafe-speed related (and frame-rate/lag related) rather than anything inherently wrong with the Cal Scout hit box...because you'll see the same thing will all fast-strafing scouts (and Min Assaults too). Or just keep complaining about some fictional problem and see where that gets you.....Leadfoot p.s. just like MKB provides some magical advantage to strafe speed, the Cal Scout hitbox issue is an excuse to explain lackluster gun skills and how the game reacts -- for all of us -- to low frame rate and fast moving targets....and easily confirmed through actual testing. In either case my point is it isn't getting fixed. Battle after battle I've tested this theory in real time. Not some out by the redline "shoot me standing still" to prove an arbitrary point?! Nevertheless, none of it has been fixed so I'll keep running in terror from, scouts in general, and tanked cal scouts until it is. My assault gk.0 with an average ehp of 700-1000 running from scout ck.0 with average ehp of 300- 500?! Makes total sense especially when I get a clear jump on him from behind, and I start shooting first. How can he use his "gun game" to "strafe" all ninja like if he doesn't see me? Mind you now in this scenario, which is all to often lately, he's already being engaged from the front by two! When I start firing he turns around, still has shields, and kills me with his amazing sidearm "gun game". No issues with that because some guys ARE truly that good at being shooters, and I wouldn't dare take that away, but how does he walk away from that after I'm dead? Remember that two guys were already shooting him! Whether your test is 100% accurate, or there are some form of hit detection issue. The problem is that CCP hasn't looked into it. Lag, hit detection, lack of inertia, etc. Cal scouts and Min Assaults are walking away from thrashing in record numbers, and it ain't because of "gun game". "Anybody order chaos?"
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 392	Posted - 2014.10.14 22:54:00 - [52] - Quote Good topic. Someone mention that bugs that we are dealing with today will be solve in Legion - it is partly true, because Legion is being writhed from 0, so there are less chances that game will share identical bugs with Dust. Question remains if the Legion will be finished will it be possible to copy partially of it's code to Dust in order to fix those bugs? And we do not know answer to this question today and it will probably do not change until FF 2015. At the moment the future of this game despite the fact of 'how much goods HF program are actually do', looks quite gray. HF will not bring crowds of players with this game need to survive for a longer period of time - even patches had problem with bringing crowds to game.. well even game launch had problem with this, and I'm completely objective here. CCP politics on bug fixing have huge impact on what kind of community we have and how large it is. Many good players that was caring about game and wanted to increase it's quality, and at the same point bringing more customers and cash to CCP burn out faster because of this situation. Of cures everyone would eventually leave the game, but this process should take time and in CCP best interest is to extend it to maximum with content that works(at basic form). It's hard to rebuild someone trust. I'm may sound a little raw here, but I have good intention: Dear CCP you are losing good opinion because of those bugs and things that are broke in Dust, and this really applies to the entire company. I understand that CCP employ that gone read it have limited resources, and he probably have some stubborn boss. I also understand that it's not about being "lazy"; finding and fixing bug is very hard and challenging task(you do not have to fix all of them instantly, just one at the time). PS And telling to players that 'bugs will be fix tomorrow' sounds way much more better then 'use officials channels' IMO. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Long Evity 1701	Posted - 2014.10.15 03:13:00 - [53] - Quote Bump. Ask me how many accounts CCP has banned since I've made this thread. They REALLY don't want me to push this - but ** 'em. ** needs to get done and they ain't doing it. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3790	Posted - 2014.10.15 04:13:00 - [54] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Good topic. Someone mention that bugs that we are dealing with today will be solve in Legion - it is partly true, because Legion is being writhed from 0, so there are less chances that game will share identical bugs with Dust. Question remains if the Legion will be finished will it be possible to copy partially of it's code to Dust in order to fix those bugs? And we do not know answer to this question today and it will probably do not change until FF 2015. At the moment the future of this game despite the fact of 'how much goods HF program are actually do', looks quite gray. HF will not bring crowds of players with this game need to survive for a longer period of time - even patches had problem with bringing crowds to game.. well even game launch had problem with this, and I'm completely objective here. CCP politics on bug fixing have huge impact on what kind of community we have and how large it is. Many good players that was caring about game and wanted to increase it's quality, and at the same point bringing more customers and cash to CCP burn out faster because of this situation. Of cures everyone would eventually leave the game, but this process should take time and in CCP best interest is to extend it to maximum with content that works(at basic form). It's hard to rebuild someone trust. I'm may sound a little raw here, but I have good intention: Dear CCP you are losing good opinion because of those bugs and things that are broke in Dust, and this really applies to the entire company. I understand that CCP employ that gone read it have limited resources, and he probably have some stubborn boss. I also understand that it's not about being "lazy"; finding and fixing bug is very hard and challenging task(you do not have to fix all of them instantly, just one at the time). PS And telling to players that 'bugs will be fix tomorrow' sounds way much more better then 'use officials channels' IMO. Read FF 2015 as Final Fantasy 2015. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Long Evity 1706	Posted - 2014.10.15 11:02:00 - [55] - Quote Wonder how long the Devs will remain quite. 1 year and counting, let's so how much more! I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 542	Posted - 2014.10.15 11:29:00 - [56] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. CCP just Told This Thread To Shutup Lmao My Advice Is Play Around The Bugs So Pretty Much Get Good Or Get Out! SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1362	Posted - 2014.10.15 12:07:00 - [57] - Quote Maybe caldari scout is hard to hit because it doesn't gimp itself with fotmy armor tanking. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3819	Posted - 2014.10.15 12:23:00 - [58] - Quote saxonmish wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This will get you nowhere. Use the proper channels and we will keep doing our best. CCP just Told This Thread To Shutup Lmao My Advice Is Play Around The Bugs So Pretty Much Get Good Or Get Out! I keep getting the bug where it tells me that the matches I join don't exist anymore, so I can't play any of them. I, also, can't voice. Do you expect me to play around it by walking in circles in my merc quarters?
Long Evity 1706	Posted - 2014.10.15 17:41:00 - [59] - Quote Lots of bugs, but some have been around for year+, while others are brought in every patch. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1708	Posted - 2014.10.15 23:52:00 - [60] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoZLPSw8U8 I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.



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