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Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 251	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:21:00 - [1] - Quote Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000*(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3552	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:25:00 - [2] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game. We'll see how many people reply before I post your final score. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5486	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:25:00 - [3] - Quote That's silly. Support Logis tend to have low K/Ds, but that doesn't make them any less valuable to the team. The inverse applies to many other roles; for example, the very worst players in the game can consistently go positive by running HMG Heavies or HAVs. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 529	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:27:00 - [4] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000*(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. Red line snipers, scrubby infantry farming tankers, and dedicated Logi's make you incorrect and frankly misguided. Think before you type. Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
hfderrtgvcd 627	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:28:00 - [5] - Quote 0/10 I know this community is dumb, but come on no one is going to fall for this. Edit: I stand corrected. Thanks guys You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 251	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:29:00 - [6] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: That's silly. Support Logis tend to have low K/Ds, but that doesn't make them any less valuable to the team. The inverse applies to many other roles; for example, the very worst players in the game can consistently go positive by running HMG Heavies or HAVs. It's actually quite reasonable, the skill and situational awareness required to maintain a high K/D is more demanding than the skill required to drop a few hives and hide behind the heavy with +1k eHP. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 435	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:30:00 - [7] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. Lol. Player base would drop down to under 500. I'm sorry, I won't use a game to prove any "skill". I should be rewarded for playing period. CCP should want that too. Go measure your cck elsewhereGÇª primarily, in a girl. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 251	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:31:00 - [8] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000*(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. Red line snipers, scrubby infantry farming tankers, and dedicated Logi's make you incorrect and frankly misguided. Think before you type. My thought process is equal to that of ten Steven Hawkings. I have every idea what I'm talking about. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 251	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:33:00 - [9] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. Lol. Player base would drop down to under 500. I'm sorry, I won't use a game to prove any "skill". I should be rewarded for playing period. CCP should want that too. Go measure your cck elsewhereGÇª primarily, in a girl. 500 skilled players, as opposed to 5,000 **** players. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game RUST415 166	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:37:00 - [10] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game. We'll see how many people reply before I post your final score. I got a kd/r of 24.70 ... Got to play vs duna and those who create an alt and play the 2 academy match against newbies? Please man -_-" I've seen things that people have never seen : New officier weapon

ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3295	Posted - 2014.10.04 22:49:00 - [11] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: 8/10 - Good Effort Just in case. That's silly. Support Logis tend to have low K/Ds, but that doesn't make them bad or any less valuable to the team. Support logis are bad, and should feel bad. Support logi is just a logi with no gun game. A logi with high k/d does more for the team than a logi with low k/d and should definitely be rewarded more for it. Agreed 100% OP. B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 252	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:00:00 - [12] - Quote I also forgot to mention, dropping below a K/D of 2.0 sends you back to the Academy. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 46	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:05:00 - [13] - Quote Cannot tell if troll or just silly...
valad II NoGameNoLife 199	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:06:00 - [14] - Quote The concept is bullsh!t but the troll value is awesome. 10/10
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9639	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:09:00 - [15] - Quote Quote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game I stopped taking you seriously after you said this. Sorry, but I don't agree with you at all that K/D is the single most important stat in this game. I'm notoriously known for throwing myself into the line of fire on purpose to take down a few redberry bastards with just my knives even if it means I die with them. I killed a lot of bastards this way and a lot of people respect me for that alone. No one gave a rat's ass about my horribad KDR. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 252	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:10:00 - [16] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: 0/10 I know this community is dumb, but come on no one is going to fall for this. Edit: I stand corrected. Thanks guys I'm not trying to fool anyone, I'm trying to persuade, get a good backing from people before I take this matter further. It is detrimental for this game that whenever an unpopular idea is posted, it gets called out for 'Trolling' and scored on its entertainment value. I am not here to entertain, but to teach. To teach that I know best when it comes to the reward system. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9639	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:11:00 - [17] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: I also forgot to mention, dropping below a K/D of 2.0 sends you back to the Academy. Ok, right here I can tell you're just trolling. That would definitely send me back to the Academy because I don't care about my KDR. I stopped caring about it 2 years ago. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9639	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:13:00 - [18] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: 0/10 I know this community is dumb, but come on no one is going to fall for this. Edit: I stand corrected. Thanks guys I'm not trying to fool anyone, I'm trying to persuade, get a good backing from people before I take this matter further. It is detrimental for this game that whenever an unpopular idea is posted, it gets called out for 'Trolling' and scored on its entertainment value. I am not here to entertain, but to teach. To teach that I know best when it comes to the reward system. Be extra careful with that statement. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 252	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:13:00 - [19] - Quote At the end of the day, a battle cannot be won through WP, or through dropping hives, although both help. Kills are a more direct and effective means of winning battles, there is no way you can win battles through WP, it is straight up impossible, but you can do so with kills, and that is where this idea stems from. To summarize, Importance of K/D > Importance of WP and Position on Board. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 252	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:15:00 - [20] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I also forgot to mention, dropping below a K/D of 2.0 sends you back to the Academy. Ok, right here I can tell you're just trolling. That would definitely send me back to the Academy because I don't care about my KDR. I stopped caring about it 2 years ago. Then you will play with those who also do not give a damn, and leave the ones who still do care about this game to give reasonable and helpful critique on their own. Separating the playerbase based on who cares is a good way to get this game back on track. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!

Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 252	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:19:00 - [21] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: 0/10 I know this community is dumb, but come on no one is going to fall for this. Edit: I stand corrected. Thanks guys I'm not trying to fool anyone, I'm trying to persuade, get a good backing from people before I take this matter further. It is detrimental for this game that whenever an unpopular idea is posted, it gets called out for 'Trolling' and scored on its entertainment value. I am not here to entertain, but to teach. To teach that I know best when it comes to the reward system. Be extra careful with that statement. I do know best, just because you wear a D-UNI tag, doesn't mean you know whats best for the game or the playerbase. You are surrounded by new players who have no concept of skill nor balance and are taking their opinions to the forums, where they will be ever so popular due to the fact that the thought process of the regulars here (Excluding me and a select few players) is equal to that of a new player. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9641	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:19:00 - [22] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: At the end of the day, a battle cannot be won through WP, or through dropping hives, although both help. Kills are a more direct and effective means of winning battles, there is no way you can win battles through WP, it is straight up impossible, but you can do so with kills, and that is where this idea stems from. To summarize, Importance of K/D > Importance of WP and Position on Board. Yes, killing is important in Dust. But remember that we are immortal mercenaries. We don't care about dying. At least I don't. I will often spawn, run in with knives or maybe an SMG, and die while taking someone with me. Rinse. Repeat until you have distracted the enemy long enough for your team to overtake them. This strategy will inevitably result in me dying A LOT but in the end, capturing that objective brings home the bacon. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9641	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:21:00 - [23] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: 0/10 I know this community is dumb, but come on no one is going to fall for this. Edit: I stand corrected. Thanks guys I'm not trying to fool anyone, I'm trying to persuade, get a good backing from people before I take this matter further. It is detrimental for this game that whenever an unpopular idea is posted, it gets called out for 'Trolling' and scored on its entertainment value. I am not here to entertain, but to teach. To teach that I know best when it comes to the reward system. Be extra careful with that statement. I do know best, just because you wear a D-UNI tag, doesn't mean you know whats best for the game or the playerbase. You are surrounded by new players who have no concept of skill nor balance and are taking their opinions to the forums, where they will be ever so popular due to the fact that the thought process of the regulars here (Excluding me and a select few players) is equal to that of a new player. I never said I know best nor will I ever claim such a thing. If you know best, prove it. Back it up with hard evidence. PS: I don't stoop as low as bring my corp into this discussion. Keep D-Uni out of it, OK? On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3556	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:22:00 - [24] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Ok, right here I can tell you're just trolling. That would definitely send me back to the Academy because I don't care about my KDR. I stopped caring about it 2 years ago. You had to have known from the first post OP is not being subtle about this troll at all. I mean, it's fun to read, but since it is so hamfisted it isn't going to illicit tears. OP, your final score is 6/10. You picked a volatile topic that resonates with players, but you are being too aggressive in your "I'm not a troll" routine. Subtly is key here. If you can make it to 5 pages worth of responses I will raise it to 7/10, but that's the best you I can do. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 8	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:24:00 - [25] - Quote Battle payout should be linked, not daily passive sp accrual. Dude, go look at the leader boards for kdr. Guys with kdr of 42, and BTW total lifetime kills of 42. How many people would go to Academy with an alt, rack up some fantastic kdr, setup passive sp to that account and sit on it for a month. Even at 10x/day, assuming you keep the current rate you're looking at over 1.5mil sp / week before boosters. Maybe make a multiplier for sp payout though. SP currently is based on time in battle (5sp per second, I believe) + WP. Definitely I can agree on a multiplier for exceptional kdr (over 2.0 or something) but don't penalize for not making the mark. 0.1 multiplier applied to battle kdr.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 252	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:25:00 - [26] - Quote I did back it up with hard evidence, you can't win a game based on WP or position on the board, simple as. They can be won through kills and lost through deaths. A distraction as you mentioned will not win anything, a distraction in a competitive battle is nothing more than a liability. If someone can't maintain a high K/D while doing their job then they shouldn't be allowed outside of the academy. A distraction doesn't have to boil down to just "Run in like an idiot". It can be so much more. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9641	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:25:00 - [27] - Quote Let me reiterate what I just said. I don't care about my own KDR. PERIOD. It is horrid by many people's standards, but in the end, no one looks at my KDR and judges me on that because they know I don't care about it. PS: By your logic, I should forever be imprisoned in the Academy. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 122	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:30:00 - [28] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. Like a support with fixing thingie i can give you maximaly 3/10, sorry boyo support is important too "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."*
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 252	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:32:00 - [29] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Let me reiterate what I just said. I don't care about my own KDR. PERIOD. It is horrid by many people's standards, but in the end, no one looks at my KDR and judges me on that because they know I don't care about it. PS: By your logic, I should forever be imprisoned in the Academy. Yes, I would see no problem with that, you would be trapped forever with those who also do not care, in the end isn't that what you people want? To be thrown in with people who also do not care, after all the moaning and bitching on here about Proto, I assumed that's what you people would want. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3755	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:35:00 - [30] - Quote I have a decent k/d but I do not like this idea.. I love my logiwhores =ƒÿ£ Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

Lanius Pulvis Evzones Public.Disorder. 353	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:43:00 - [31] - Quote 3/10, too obvious, and if by some miracle it's not a troll, that's just plain idiotic! Not new, just new to you.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 123	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:54:00 - [32] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Let me reiterate what I just said. I don't care about my own KDR. PERIOD. It is horrid by many people's standards, but in the end, no one looks at my KDR and judges me on that because they know I don't care about it. PS: By your logic, I should forever be imprisoned in the Academy. Yes, I would see no problem with that, you would be trapped forever with those who also do not care, in the end isn't that what you people want? To be thrown in with people who also do not care, after all the moaning and bitching on here about Proto, I assumed that's what you people would want. Oki after this message i see it like proper trolling or complete stupidity. Judging people in GAME by nonsence like K/D, hell game is about FUN. If you want skill try sport and some tournament, this is pure nonsence. I changin' my score in review of this thread on 0/10 - PURE GARBAGE "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
Dreis Shadowweaver Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 254	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:59:00 - [33] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: I also forgot to mention, dropping below a K/D of 2.0 sends you back to the Academy. You do realise that it's actually impossible for everyone to have at least a 2.00 k/d without feeding on newbs because logic, right? One guy's k/d goes up, the other's goes down... Someone's getting sent to the academy. Join the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1030	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:07:00 - [34] - Quote Please do not feed the trolls. They are for display purposes only.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3559	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:09:00 - [35] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: Please do not feed the trolls. They are for display purposes only. I paid a whole dollar for a handful of food pellets and I will throw it at the trolls if I want to He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Paeonn xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:10:00 - [36] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, / Don't bother. This guy will never get it... =ƒÿü Paeonn, dedicated LogiBro, for all your supplies, reps and rezGÇÖs Greek mythology: Paeon, Healer of the Gods
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 123	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:11:00 - [37] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: Please do not feed the trolls. They are for display purposes only. I paid a whole dollar for a handful of food pellets and I will throw it at the trolls if I want to I like turtles "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
nicholas73 Glitched Connection 239	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:14:00 - [38] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. You're basically saying fk the logis and all hail tankers. Proud member of Glitched Connection "Only idiots start a fight they can't win"* - Sora (No Game No Life)
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 255	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:15:00 - [39] - Quote Paeonn wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, / Don't bother. This guy will never get it... =ƒÿü I guess I can't get what I already have. That's why I'm posting, to share my experience and wisdom. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 255	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:16:00 - [40] - Quote nicholas73 wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. You're basically saying f*k the logis and all hail tankers. A logi can kill too, a good Logi should be able to go positive, or at least break even in Pubs. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!

Paeonn xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:18:00 - [41] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Paeonn wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, / Don't bother. This guy will never get it... =ƒÿü I guess I can't get what I already have. That's why I'm posting, to share my experience and wisdom. Get... the point. You didn't even get that. Lol Paeonn, dedicated LogiBro, for all your supplies, reps and rezGÇÖs Greek mythology: Paeon, Healer of the Gods
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 124	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:18:00 - [42] - Quote Still turtles "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game RUST415 1641	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:20:00 - [43] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000*(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. how many scouts and logis do you know who leave a game high kdr or positive isk for that matter. not many. well done your idea just killed of a big chunk of the the already small playerbase. All Hail Legion
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3972	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:40:00 - [44] - Quote There's some compelling points in this argument. Logi's just get in the way and just take up space on the team. Nanohives? Why would I want to resupply? I'm busy *killing* Uplinks? Are you mad son? Why would I want to spawn in when I'm busy *killing* Active scanners? Don't make me laugh, I don't need to know where the enemy is when I'm busy *killing* I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 125	Posted - 2014.10.05 00:42:00 - [45] - Quote Spademan wrote: There's some compelling points in this argument. Logi's just get in the way and just take up space on the team. Nanohives? Why would I want to resupply? I'm busy *killing* Uplinks? Are you mad son? Why would I want to spawn in when I'm busy *killing* Active scanners? Don't make me laugh, I don't need to know where the enemy is when I'm busy *killing* Honestly boyo im still on back of my squad and healin' them even if im hurt Need ammo, hell im your boyo just take it Need cover after fix, yup just run i will cover ya See support is usefull too sometimes and do not to be a slayer and still turtles im done here nonsence thread is nonsence "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3955	Posted - 2014.10.05 01:01:00 - [46] - Quote Bad troll is bad. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1030	Posted - 2014.10.05 01:05:00 - [47] - Quote When I'm logi'n and my two heavy duty attack dogs go 30/0 each and I go 0/0 with 5k WP, you can suck my K/D. My K/D is on the end of a leash. Gr8 B8 M8
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 141	Posted - 2014.10.05 01:06:00 - [48] - Quote That's ********. I don't know very many games that exactly does that. And that's for a good reason.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2678	Posted - 2014.10.05 01:08:00 - [49] - Quote K/D(r) matchmaking would so def fix this. It eliminates K/D(r) almost altogether. The sig is back! K/D(r) matchmaking would even fix the matchmaking fix.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 419	Posted - 2014.10.05 01:21:00 - [50] - Quote so you want dust to be cod? no thanks. baseing rewards off of k/d is an extremely bad idea. the current reward system is quite decent. preety much takes into account everything that gets blown up/killed and some other complex mathematical equation to work out reward. if you can top the match from soley hacking every frckn thing in sight you deserve to have the highest reward. just because you can go 24/3 while slaying and come in 2nd place because some guy WAS actually being a logi and supporting his team while in the line of fire and takes 1st place means that he was doing something to help your team win. not everyone wants to be front slayers. other people simply want to do other things. like pilot dropships, lavs , or tanks, logi, hack the fck out of everything and so on. the slaying game should not be the highest rewarding way of acculmating the reward. want to know why? because in order to achive high scores you've got to RISK better gear or just be cannon fodder to achive such a score. overall though baseing reward on K/D is an absolutely horrible idea. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*

Yeeeuuuupppp Vengeance Unbound 628	Posted - 2014.10.05 01:50:00 - [51] - Quote Logistics. "Removed for hurting my feelings" - CCP PSN: GMANCASH Rage Proficiency V
Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 8	Posted - 2014.10.05 02:13:00 - [52] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: I did back it up with hard evidence, you can't win a game based on WP or position on the board, simple as. They can be won through kills and lost through deaths. Actually, holding the objective(s) longer wins the matches. Except ambushes. I've been in matches where the winning team took more clone losses. KDR is great for bragging, yeah I agree there could be a small multiplier to the battle payouts, but saying KDR trumps all is just silly. Only in an ambush is that a true statement. In all cases, teamwork trumps all. 5 snipers on a team getting KDR of 5 each does not help the team win. Edit: a small multiplier of (your kills / team deaths) for end of battle sp payout.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2504	Posted - 2014.10.05 02:48:00 - [53] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. As someone who used to have a 6KDR with tryhard pants, and now casually maintains a 4+ KDR due to my obsession with joker fits, i think you're a bit nuts on this idea. WP/D ratio is far more important, imo, then KDR. EDIT: Ghost Recon: Phantoms is also a "Team" based game and rewards points even more for teamwork and objective play on a higher basis then DUST 514 and I think it plays even better as a result.* KDR is amazingballs in slayer games but can be damaging to gameplay in team-oriented objective games. Honestly I with DUST could be even more biased in Skirmish with the way points are awarded the same way that Phantoms does, it would really incentive people to play more intelligently and make "Winning" a skirmish match even more important. Anyways, I think when I kill an HAV or a veteran protobear it ought to count more then when you kill some clueless blueberry in a militia starter fit, another reason why KDR is crap, it only encourages bottom feeding. Oh god damnit I just read OP's signature... I got fished good. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 438	Posted - 2014.10.05 03:05:00 - [54] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. Lol. Player base would drop down to under 500. I'm sorry, I won't use a game to prove any "skill". I should be rewarded for playing period. CCP should want that too. Go measure your cck elsewhereGÇª primarily, in a girl. 500 skilled players, as opposed to 5,000 **** players. Please tell me you aren't in marketing. Of course, CCP could use your talents. Seems they like hiring shoddy marketing guys. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
gustavo acosta Pure Evil. 306	Posted - 2014.10.05 03:18:00 - [55] - Quote >Reads thread >Chuckles Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
Thurak1 Psygod9 1017	Posted - 2014.10.05 03:29:00 - [56] - Quote This must be a troll thread. That or this guy has no idea what the logi role is. Also the OP is out of tune with the realities of warfare in general.
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 126	Posted - 2014.10.05 07:02:00 - [57] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Spademan wrote: There's some compelling points in this argument. Logi's just get in the way and just take up space on the team. Nanohives? Why would I want to resupply? I'm busy *killing* Uplinks? Are you mad son? Why would I want to spawn in when I'm busy *killing* Active scanners? Don't make me laugh, I don't need to know where the enemy is when I'm busy *killing* Honestly boyo im still on back of my squad and healin' them even if im hurt Need ammo, hell im your boyo just take it Need cover after fix, yup just run i will cover ya See support is usefull too sometimes and do not to be a slayer and still turtles im done here nonsence thread is nonsence I love thy logi!! Playstyle: Scout~Passionate In-bred Sniper~Support~Enemy finder Weapon: Pro SG~SR~SMG~NK~ScR
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 126	Posted - 2014.10.05 07:08:00 - [58] - Quote Kensai Dragon wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I did back it up with hard evidence, you can't win a game based on WP or position on the board, simple as. They can be won through kills and lost through deaths. Actually, holding the objective(s) longer wins the matches. Except ambushes. I've been in matches where the winning team took more clone losses. KDR is great for bragging, yeah I agree there could be a small multiplier to the battle payouts, but saying KDR trumps all is just silly. Only in an ambush is that a true statement. In all cases, teamwork trumps all. 5 snipers on a team getting KDR of 5 each does not help the team win. Edit: a small multiplier of (your kills / team deaths) for end of battle sp payout. What if they form a star across the map and have a pentagon security system while the ground troops push the enemies like assaults pushes, scouts sabotage and flank, and heavies AV / defend on point and logi's heal squads?? Playstyle: Scout~Passionate In-bred Sniper~Support~Enemy finder Weapon: Pro SG~SR~SMG~NK~ScR
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2014.10.05 07:42:00 - [59] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: At the end of the day, a battle cannot be won through WP, or through dropping hives, although both help. Kills are a more direct and effective means of winning battles, there is no way you can win battles through WP, it is straight up impossible, but you can do so with kills, and that is where this idea stems from. To summarize, Importance of K/D > Importance of WP and Position on Board. Yes, killing is important in Dust. But remember that we are immortal mercenaries. We don't care about dying. At least I don't. I will often spawn, run in with knives or maybe an SMG, and die while taking someone with me. Rinse. Repeat until you have distracted the enemy long enough for your team to overtake them. This strategy will inevitably result in me dying A LOT but in the end, capturing that objective brings home the bacon. until your team gets cloned out because of your careless use of the teams clones. now if you kill a lot not die a lot while taking the letter you would help your team far more. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9645	Posted - 2014.10.05 10:37:00 - [60] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: At the end of the day, a battle cannot be won through WP, or through dropping hives, although both help. Kills are a more direct and effective means of winning battles, there is no way you can win battles through WP, it is straight up impossible, but you can do so with kills, and that is where this idea stems from. To summarize, Importance of K/D > Importance of WP and Position on Board. Yes, killing is important in Dust. But remember that we are immortal mercenaries. We don't care about dying. At least I don't. I will often spawn, run in with knives or maybe an SMG, and die while taking someone with me. Rinse. Repeat until you have distracted the enemy long enough for your team to overtake them. This strategy will inevitably result in me dying A LOT but in the end, capturing that objective brings home the bacon. until your team gets cloned out because of your careless use of the teams clones. now if you kill a lot not die a lot while taking the letter you would help your team far more. This would be true... if I were in a PC match. But since my corp is no longer involved in PC, I don't have to worry much about that. Besides, right now with the sidearm expert challenge going on I'm not caring about clone loss. As long as I can get another kill with my militia nova knives before I die again (breaking even basically), I'm good. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2014.10.05 11:02:00 - [61] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: At the end of the day, a battle cannot be won through WP, or through dropping hives, although both help. Kills are a more direct and effective means of winning battles, there is no way you can win battles through WP, it is straight up impossible, but you can do so with kills, and that is where this idea stems from. To summarize, Importance of K/D > Importance of WP and Position on Board. Yes, killing is important in Dust. But remember that we are immortal mercenaries. We don't care about dying. At least I don't. I will often spawn, run in with knives or maybe an SMG, and die while taking someone with me. Rinse. Repeat until you have distracted the enemy long enough for your team to overtake them. This strategy will inevitably result in me dying A LOT but in the end, capturing that objective brings home the bacon. until your team gets cloned out because of your careless use of the teams clones. now if you kill a lot not die a lot while taking the letter you would help your team far more. This would be true... if I were in a PC match. But since my corp is no longer involved in PC, I don't have to worry much about that. Besides, right now with the sidearm expert challenge going on I'm not caring about clone loss. As long as I can get another kill with my militia nova knives before I die again (breaking even basically), I'm good. And here is why CCPs matchmakeing in pubs can't fix the problem^^^^^^ all ways someone on your team who just does not care if he hurts his team. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9645	Posted - 2014.10.05 11:13:00 - [62] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: At the end of the day, a battle cannot be won through WP, or through dropping hives, although both help. Kills are a more direct and effective means of winning battles, there is no way you can win battles through WP, it is straight up impossible, but you can do so with kills, and that is where this idea stems from. To summarize, Importance of K/D > Importance of WP and Position on Board. Yes, killing is important in Dust. But remember that we are immortal mercenaries. We don't care about dying. At least I don't. I will often spawn, run in with knives or maybe an SMG, and die while taking someone with me. Rinse. Repeat until you have distracted the enemy long enough for your team to overtake them. This strategy will inevitably result in me dying A LOT but in the end, capturing that objective brings home the bacon. until your team gets cloned out because of your careless use of the teams clones. now if you kill a lot not die a lot while taking the letter you would help your team far more. This would be true... if I were in a PC match. But since my corp is no longer involved in PC, I don't have to worry much about that. Besides, right now with the sidearm expert challenge going on I'm not caring about clone loss. As long as I can get another kill with my militia nova knives before I die again (breaking even basically), I'm good. And here is why CCPs matchmakeing in pubs can't fix the problem^^^^^^ all ways someone on your team who just does not care if he hurts his team. You can say the same thing for people who leave a match midway through just because the opposing team is generating some resistance. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2014.10.05 11:47:00 - [63] - Quote or is that team generating a whole bunch of uselessness by not trying or even come close to careing to win. why waste time with people redline sniping or nova knifeing ammo deposits. matter fact lets get 2 different servers one can be team play go for the win PTFO and one could be i am a useless dude driveing around in a LAV up in the mountain mode. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3542	Posted - 2014.10.05 12:02:00 - [64] - Quote Hah hah hah! Oh that's a good one. KDR is the most important stat in the game. Oh that'll keep me going for days! Now that my trolling is out of the way, their is actually some serious points under this flame bait. Mainly the lack of reward for Assault/Defense or 'slayer' roles. Being a slayer has one of the least WP affluent roles, only beaten by being a transport pilot. 'Slayer' classes need additional WP rewards for specific actions. Such as: Guarding a friendly hacking a terminal Killing an enemy who was about to kill a friendly Guarding a triage unit doing his job Guarding a friendly who is being evacuated by vehicles Providing covering fire. And so on, this would even benifit snipers and encourage snipers to focus more on support of their team than picking off some straggler in the middle of nowhere. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 6115	Posted - 2014.10.05 13:16:00 - [65] - Quote I would like to say that i am pretty crap with a ds3 and yet retain a 3.50 - 3.49 k/d. I also carried on doing skirmish for the roughly 3 months that it didnt record stats so i should really be sat at about a 5. something k/d. This game is no measure of skill. Well that was spiffing.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1202	Posted - 2014.10.05 15:39:00 - [66] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: I also forgot to mention, dropping below a K/D of 2.0 sends you back to the Academy. Math isn't your strong point is it? Because, that's why.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 255	Posted - 2014.10.05 16:36:00 - [67] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Hah hah hah! Oh that's a good one. KDR is the most important stat in the game. Oh that'll keep me going for days! Now that my trolling is out of the way, their is actually some serious points under this flame bait. Mainly the lack of reward for Assault/Defense or 'slayer' roles. Being a slayer has one of the least WP affluent roles, only beaten by being a transport pilot. 'Slayer' classes need additional WP rewards for specific actions. Such as: Guarding a friendly hacking a terminal Killing an enemy who was about to kill a friendly Guarding a triage unit doing his job Guarding a friendly who is being evacuated by vehicles Providing covering fire. And so on, this would even benifit snipers and encourage snipers to focus more on support of their team than picking off some straggler in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, you trolled me good. Errrgh I'm fuming, ergh how dare you laugh at my suggestion. Oh the pain, oh the misery. I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 255	Posted - 2014.10.05 16:38:00 - [68] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I also forgot to mention, dropping below a K/D of 2.0 sends you back to the Academy. Math isn't your strong point is it? You going to elaborate on that? Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
punksnowmash The Hundred Acre Hood 29	Posted - 2014.10.05 16:50:00 - [69] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I also forgot to mention, dropping below a K/D of 2.0 sends you back to the Academy. Math isn't your strong point is it? You going to elaborate on that? Why don't you elaborate on how I should be sent back to the academy? Just because i come in on top going 0/3 doesn't mean i didn't to do the slaying in the match or not try enough but while my team is making the push I'm keeping them alive with reps, ammo and if I can't get my rep tool on them fast enough, a safe place to spawn to get back into the fight. Not everyone in this game is a slayer, I much enjoy burning a few proto logi suits to keep that heavy and assault alive so we can make the push to win. 0/10 Just cause your opinion differs from most of the playerbase doesn't make you all knowing.
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2014.10.05 17:01:00 - [70] - Quote hey guys, there should be no logis in this game, the only thing that should rep are nanohives

punksnowmash The Hundred Acre Hood 30	Posted - 2014.10.05 17:03:00 - [71] - Quote hold that wrote: hey guys, there should be no logis in this game, the only thing that should rep are nanohives Care to lose that proto suit when you go down then?
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2156	Posted - 2014.10.05 17:18:00 - [72] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000*(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. Lol no I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2156	Posted - 2014.10.05 17:19:00 - [73] - Quote If you want that, just go to Call of Duty. Stop trying to bring this game down to that level. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2156	Posted - 2014.10.05 17:21:00 - [74] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: 8/10 - Good Effort Just in case. That's silly. Support Logis tend to have low K/Ds, but that doesn't make them bad or any less valuable to the team. Support logis are bad, and should feel bad. Support logi is just a logi with no gun game. A logi with high k/d does more for the team than a logi with low k/d and should definitely be rewarded more for it. Agreed 100% OP. You too can go to Call of Duty if that's how you feel about it. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
hfderrtgvcd 645	Posted - 2014.10.05 17:47:00 - [75] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: 8/10 - Good Effort Just in case. That's silly. Support Logis tend to have low K/Ds, but that doesn't make them bad or any less valuable to the team. Support logis are bad, and should feel bad. Support logi is just a logi with no gun game. A logi with high k/d does more for the team than a logi with low k/d and should definitely be rewarded more for it. Agreed 100% OP. You too can go to Call of Duty if that's how you feel about it. I hope you realize he was being sarcastic You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 255	Posted - 2014.10.05 17:50:00 - [76] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: If you want that, just go to Call of Duty. Stop trying to bring this game down to that level. Stop acting as if this game is better than CoD, CoD may be a rehashed arcade shooter, but at least it's a polished, decent game that doesn't make any ridiculous promises other than being an action-packed shooter. DUST on the otherhand promised a 10 year plan, with a laser focus on PS3 development, but was dropped and left a buggy, unbalanced and dying mess. Activision may be money grabbing cunts, but at least they're not lying money grabbing cunts. CoD is easily the better game, anyone who denies that is a CCP fanboy. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1038	Posted - 2014.10.05 18:53:00 - [77] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: If you want that, just go to Call of Duty. Stop trying to bring this game down to that level. Stop acting as if this game is better than CoD, CoD may be a rehashed arcade shooter, but at least it's a polished, decent game that doesn't make any ridiculous promises other than being an action-packed shooter. DUST on the otherhand promised a 10 year plan, with a laser focus on PS3 development, but was dropped and left a buggy, unbalanced and dying mess. Activision may be money grabbing cunts, but at least they're not lying money grabbing cunts. CoD is easily the better game, anyone who denies that is a CCP fanboy. Hey kids come look at this brain dead supertard! You might ask "How does he manage to type things on his computer?" It's instinctive. His supertard parents passed down to him genes that remove the link between the non-functional brain and his tiny sausage fingers. His pork fingers can even type after the head has been removed. Isn't that cool?
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 257	Posted - 2014.10.05 19:25:00 - [78] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: If you want that, just go to Call of Duty. Stop trying to bring this game down to that level. Stop acting as if this game is better than CoD, CoD may be a rehashed arcade shooter, but at least it's a polished, decent game that doesn't make any ridiculous promises other than being an action-packed shooter. DUST on the otherhand promised a 10 year plan, with a laser focus on PS3 development, but was dropped and left a buggy, unbalanced and dying mess. Activision may be money grabbing cunts, but at least they're not lying money grabbing cunts. CoD is easily the better game, anyone who denies that is a CCP fanboy. Hey kids come look at this brain dead supertard! You might ask "How does he manage to type things on his computer?" It's instinctive. His supertard parents passed down to him genes that remove the link between the non-functional brain and his tiny sausage fingers. His pork fingers can even type after the head has been removed. Isn't that cool? CCP fanboy detected. How can you type when your nose is so far up CCP's ass that you'd be able to smell the rotten fish and goat's bollocks moving through their intestines? Honest question. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 6121	Posted - 2014.10.05 19:38:00 - [79] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: If you want that, just go to Call of Duty. Stop trying to bring this game down to that level. Stop acting as if this game is better than CoD, CoD may be a rehashed arcade shooter, but at least it's a polished, decent game that doesn't make any ridiculous promises other than being an action-packed shooter. DUST on the otherhand promised a 10 year plan, with a laser focus on PS3 development, but was dropped and left a buggy, unbalanced and dying mess. Activision may be money grabbing cunts, but at least they're not lying money grabbing cunts. CoD is easily the better game, anyone who denies that is a CCP fanboy. You schlayg. Well that was spiffing.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 136	Posted - 2014.10.05 19:51:00 - [80] - Quote Though our imperfection we are aware of our mortality "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9650	Posted - 2014.10.05 23:05:00 - [81] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! Yes, I can see how disagreeing with your idea means I suck ass despite being able to kill off Sentinels and Commandos using only Militia Nova Knives and no other weapon. Just remember that some of the people here who claim to have good KDRs don't agree with your idea either. Does that mean, they suck as well?* * - This is a rhetorical question. Don't answer. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9650	Posted - 2014.10.05 23:09:00 - [82] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: If you want that, just go to Call of Duty. Stop trying to bring this game down to that level. Stop acting as if this game is better than CoD, CoD may be a rehashed arcade shooter, but at least it's a polished, decent game that doesn't make any ridiculous promises other than being an action-packed shooter. DUST on the otherhand promised a 10 year plan, with a laser focus on PS3 development, but was dropped and left a buggy, unbalanced and dying mess. Activision may be money grabbing cunts, but at least they're not lying money grabbing cunts. CoD is easily the better game, anyone who denies that is a CCP fanboy. And right there. RIGHT THERE. You lost all credibility. Have a nice day. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 257	Posted - 2014.10.05 23:10:00 - [83] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! Yes, I can see how disagreeing with your idea means I suck ass despite being able to kill off Sentinels and Commandos using only Militia Nova Knives and no other weapon. Just remember that some of the people here who claim to have good KDRs don't agree with your idea either. Does that mean, they suck as well?* * - This is a rhetorical question. Don't answer. Majority - Key Word, learn to read. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 257	Posted - 2014.10.05 23:12:00 - [84] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: If you want that, just go to Call of Duty. Stop trying to bring this game down to that level. Stop acting as if this game is better than CoD, CoD may be a rehashed arcade shooter, but at least it's a polished, decent game that doesn't make any ridiculous promises other than being an action-packed shooter. DUST on the otherhand promised a 10 year plan, with a laser focus on PS3 development, but was dropped and left a buggy, unbalanced and dying mess. Activision may be money grabbing cunts, but at least they're not lying money grabbing cunts. CoD is easily the better game, anyone who denies that is a CCP fanboy. And right there. RIGHT THERE. You lost all credibility. Have a nice day. CoD is a bad game don't get me wrong, but it's better than this **** game, partly because at least CoD knows what it is. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9650	Posted - 2014.10.05 23:49:00 - [85] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! Yes, I can see how disagreeing with your idea means I suck ass despite being able to kill off Sentinels and Commandos using only Militia Nova Knives and no other weapon. Just remember that some of the people here who claim to have good KDRs don't agree with your idea either. Does that mean, they suck as well?* * - This is a rhetorical question. Don't answer. Majority - Key Word, learn to read. Irrelevant. Logistics players are critical to the success of the team just as much as the regular slayer and they usually don't have good KDRs because they are focused on doing their job which requires providing support to their team. As a result, they are often the first ones to be targeted by the opposing team because we know how much of a force multiplier logis are and thus it's no surprise their KDR suffers. It's bad enough they have to suffer this and now you want to punish them for not killing enough players? **** you. If the team won because that one logi provided all the needed reps, ammo, uplinks, and revives so that the rest of the team can stay ahead of the opposition, no one will care about the logi's KDR as long as he's a great logi. If the team won because a couple of Minmatar scouts were running around hacking every objective and installation on the map keeping the enemy on their toes, no one will care about their KDRs as long as they are great hackers. Also, just because you killed more players it doesn't mean you won. I have seen a handful of matches where one team was close to losing all of its clones (the enemy had a lot of clones remaining) yet they were able to defeat the enemy by destroying their MCC before they ran out of clones. In Eve Online, battles in space are waged constantly. A fleet of 100 ships can be destroyed by a fleet of 50 ships but still win despite the loss. How? Suppose the fleet of 100 consists of ships with an average cost of around 4 million ISK each totaling 400 million ISK lost. These would be small ships like destroyers, frigates, and maybe even a cruiser or two. Now suppose the fleet of 50 consists of ships with an average cost of around 100 million ISK each. These would be larger ships like battleships and battlecruisers. If the fleet of 100 were to lose all their ships, they lose only 400 million ISK worth of ships. If the fleet of 50 were to lose even just 1/5 of their ships, they already lost 1 billion ISK worth of ships. The fleet of 100 may have been obliterated, but the remaining fleet of 40 is humiliated while the other side can easily rebound from the loss and immediately start another attack against the fleet of 40 until that 40 goes down to 30 if they can. As a result, the value of the loss becomes more important than the quantity of the loss. From a Dust perspective, it's no different. A squad of skilled players running militia or standard gear can easily die to a similarly-skilled squad of proto suits, but the proto squad will suffer a heavier loss due to losing some of their proto gear. There are players out there that already go negative on the wallet just for losing one proto suit vs players who can lose 20 militia/standard suits and still go positive on the wallet for a single match. Again, quality of the kill, trumps quantity. EDIT: Messed up on the math there. Fixed it. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9650	Posted - 2014.10.05 23:51:00 - [86] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: If you want that, just go to Call of Duty. Stop trying to bring this game down to that level. Stop acting as if this game is better than CoD, CoD may be a rehashed arcade shooter, but at least it's a polished, decent game that doesn't make any ridiculous promises other than being an action-packed shooter. DUST on the otherhand promised a 10 year plan, with a laser focus on PS3 development, but was dropped and left a buggy, unbalanced and dying mess. Activision may be money grabbing cunts, but at least they're not lying money grabbing cunts. CoD is easily the better game, anyone who denies that is a CCP fanboy. And right there. RIGHT THERE. You lost all credibility. Have a nice day. CoD is a bad game don't get me wrong, but it's better than this **** game, partly because at least CoD knows what it is. I'd rather play Halo than CoD. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3542	Posted - 2014.10.05 23:55:00 - [87] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Hah hah hah! Oh that's a good one. KDR is the most important stat in the game. Oh that'll keep me going for days! Now that my trolling is out of the way, their is actually some serious points under this flame bait. Mainly the lack of reward for Assault/Defense or 'slayer' roles. Being a slayer has one of the least WP affluent roles, only beaten by being a transport pilot. 'Slayer' classes need additional WP rewards for specific actions. Such as: Guarding a friendly hacking a terminal Killing an enemy who was about to kill a friendly Guarding a triage unit doing his job Guarding a friendly who is being evacuated by vehicles Providing covering fire. And so on, this would even benifit snipers and encourage snipers to focus more on support of their team than picking off some straggler in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, you trolled me good. Errrgh I'm fuming, ergh how dare you laugh at my suggestion. Oh the pain, oh the misery. I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! Oh? Your serious? Well this awkward. But I'll ask a few questions. Do you really expect a logi to be consistently pulling 2.0 AND do his job properly in order to keep his team in the running? Do you really expect an AVer with nowt more than an SMG to be pulling an average 2.0 AND still be aggressive enough to suppress enemy vehicles? Do you really expect the NDS pilot with no front weapon to just land his craft, get out kill people, get back in and still actively transport troops around the map? Do you really expect those Min Scouts who have stacked codebreakers and biotics, who can be one shotted with an IP to pull an above 2.0 KDR? The list can literally go on, your KDR is meaningless, you can pull out incredible KDR's and still loose the match. I've have literally seen Dominations where 1 side has 3 players with a 33-5 or 49-2, while the winning side has 10-12 and 11-9. I have seen ambushes come down to the wire, and who comes top of the leaderboard? The logi with 7k WP and 0-5. I think you step back and look past the end of your barrel, their is a hell of a lot more to DUST than KDR. HOWEVER you will be pleased to know the new MU metric has a 97% affinity to KDR (which means they are practically identical) but it also has 95% affinities to more important statistics like WP/m or WLR. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3542	Posted - 2014.10.05 23:58:00 - [88] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: If you want that, just go to Call of Duty. Stop trying to bring this game down to that level. Stop acting as if this game is better than CoD, CoD may be a rehashed arcade shooter, but at least it's a polished, decent game that doesn't make any ridiculous promises other than being an action-packed shooter. DUST on the otherhand promised a 10 year plan, with a laser focus on PS3 development, but was dropped and left a buggy, unbalanced and dying mess. Activision may be money grabbing cunts, but at least they're not lying money grabbing cunts. CoD is easily the better game, anyone who denies that is a CCP fanboy. And right there. RIGHT THERE. You lost all credibility. Have a nice day. CoD is a bad game don't get me wrong, but it's better than this ** game, partly because at least CoD knows what it is. I'd rather play Halo than CoD. I'm not sure which game would find that more insulting. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 0	Posted - 2014.10.06 04:26:00 - [89] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000*(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. HAHAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU SERIOUS??? K/D is the most useless stat in this game. A team of 2 logis can die 5 times total and save 50 clones while causing the other team to lose the same number. Should they be pissed on because they chose to support the team and in the stats went negative K/D? The current system works 1000x better than what you are proposing. Stop being butt hurt because you make no money running around solo in a scout and can not make any money off going 5/0.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9656	Posted - 2014.10.06 04:35:00 - [90] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000*(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. HAHAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU SERIOUS??? K/D is the most useless stat in this game. A team of 2 logis can die 5 times total and save 50 clones while causing the other team to lose the same number. Should they be pissed on because they chose to support the team and in the stats went negative K/D? The current system works 1000x better than what you are proposing. Stop being butt hurt because you make no money running around solo in a scout and can not make any money off going 5/0. Sadly, he is serious. He also thinks he knows best and claims to have this wisdom of the sages that make him become a master of how the battlefield works. TL;DR He's delusional and jealous that a Logi can score more rewards than his gun game can bring him. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 216	Posted - 2014.10.06 04:41:00 - [91] - Quote Kd being important. Hahaha what a try hard no life ***. If you think kd matters Go Play Outside instead of being a lazy ass. MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1041	Posted - 2014.10.06 04:56:00 - [92] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! You can let me know when I can look forward to seeing you in a PC.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 1	Posted - 2014.10.06 05:04:00 - [93] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! Hate to be the bearer of bad news but going 5/0 hiding in the corner does not make you good. Move along scrub, move along.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17128	Posted - 2014.10.06 05:15:00 - [94] - Quote No. Should be based on Warpoints CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 258	Posted - 2014.10.06 06:30:00 - [95] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! Hate to be the bearer of bad news but going 5/0 hiding in the corner does not make you good. Move along scrub, move along. ***** pls, it makes you better than the Logi that sits on the Heavie's ass with a rep tool. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 258	Posted - 2014.10.06 06:36:00 - [96] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. HAHAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU SERIOUS??? K/D is the most useless stat in this game. A team of 2 logis can die 5 times total and save 50 clones while causing the other team to lose the same number. Should they be pissed on because they chose to support the team and in the stats went negative K/D? The current system works 1000x better than what you are proposing. Stop being butt hurt because you make no money running around solo in a scout and can not make any money off going 5/0. Sadly, he is serious. He also thinks he knows best and claims to have this wisdom of the sages that make him become a master of how the battlefield works. TL;DR He's delusional and jealous that a Logi can score more rewards than his gun game can bring him. I do know best, I've been playing this *** game since CB. You scrubs joined what? 2 days ago? Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 1	Posted - 2014.10.06 06:37:00 - [97] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! Hate to be the bearer of bad news but going 5/0 hiding in the corner does not make you good. Move along scrub, move along. ***** pls, it makes you better than the Logi that sits on the Heavie's ass with a rep tool. With a statement like that you are surely who I want in a match with me. ON THE OTHER TEAM.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 258	Posted - 2014.10.06 06:39:00 - [98] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Kd being important. Hahaha what a try hard no life ***. If you think kd matters Go Play Outside instead of being a lazy ass. Which is exactly why your sig includes the KD of one of the battles you played in MAG. Jus' saying Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1044	Posted - 2014.10.06 07:00:00 - [99] - Quote I think the important thing to remember is that I don't know who PushingCharlie is. I've never heard his name. I've never seen him in a PC battle. I've never heard of his corp. There is a very small list of people I dread to see on the opposing team. PushingCharlie is not one of them. Tell us more about your amazing skills.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 1	Posted - 2014.10.06 07:11:00 - [100] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: I think the important thing to remember is that I don't know who PushingCharlie is. I've never heard his name. I've never seen him in a PC battle. I've never heard of his corp. There is a very small list of people I dread to see on the opposing team. PushingCharlie is not one of them. Tell us more about your amazing skills. Everyone with half a brain here knows he is likely a sniper, tanker, or solo scrub that does nothing but run around in proto and pick of strays. These are the only people that think K/D means something and they make no money. Real slayers get in the top 5 and make a paycheck.

Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 126	Posted - 2014.10.06 07:48:00 - [101] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: I think the important thing to remember is that I don't know who PushingCharlie is. I've never heard his name. I've never seen him in a PC battle. I've never heard of his corp. There is a very small list of people I dread to see on the opposing team. PushingCharlie is not one of them. Tell us more about your amazing skills. Everyone with half a brain here knows he is likely a sniper, tanker, or solo scrub that does nothing but run around in proto and pick of strays. These are the only people that think K/D means something and they make no money. Real slayers get in the top 5 and make a paycheck. I'm a sniper and this insults even the scrubs that came later.... Please leave him on his on little island......... Playstyle: Scout~Passionate In-bred Sniper~Support~Enemy finder Weapon: Pro SG~SR~SMG~NK~ScR
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 1	Posted - 2014.10.06 08:08:00 - [102] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: I think the important thing to remember is that I don't know who PushingCharlie is. I've never heard his name. I've never seen him in a PC battle. I've never heard of his corp. There is a very small list of people I dread to see on the opposing team. PushingCharlie is not one of them. Tell us more about your amazing skills. Everyone with half a brain here knows he is likely a sniper, tanker, or solo scrub that does nothing but run around in proto and pick of strays. These are the only people that think K/D means something and they make no money. Real slayers get in the top 5 and make a paycheck. I'm a sniper and this insults even the scrubs that came later.... Please leave him on his on little island......... But you are not broke making crazy claims that k/d is the most important thing in the game and should determine your entire worth so you fall far away from the group that was really directed towards.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 261	Posted - 2014.10.06 15:03:00 - [103] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: I think the important thing to remember is that I don't know who PushingCharlie is. I've never heard his name. I've never seen him in a PC battle. I've never heard of his corp. There is a very small list of people I dread to see on the opposing team. PushingCharlie is not one of them. Tell us more about your amazing skills. It surely is a mystery for Scooby Doo! Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 263	Posted - 2014.10.06 15:30:00 - [104] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! Hate to be the bearer of bad news but going 5/0 hiding in the corner does not make you good. Move along scrub, move along. ***** pls, it makes you better than the Logi that sits on the Heavie's ass with a rep tool. With a statement like that you are surely who I want in a match with me. ON THE OTHER TEAM. I'd like that too. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
The Master Race Immortal Guides 80	Posted - 2014.10.06 15:34:00 - [105] - Quote What a joke yea we should reward all the red line snipers, up link farmers, and boosters. New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 264	Posted - 2014.10.06 17:50:00 - [106] - Quote The Master Race wrote: What a joke yea we should reward all the red line snipers, up link farmers, and boosters. A good player doesn't need to play cheap to get a high KDR. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 2	Posted - 2014.10.06 17:52:00 - [107] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I'm seeing a pattern here, majority of the players that dislike this idea suck ass. Coincidence? I think not! Hate to be the bearer of bad news but going 5/0 hiding in the corner does not make you good. Move along scrub, move along. ***** pls, it makes you better than the Logi that sits on the Heavie's ass with a rep tool. With a statement like that you are surely who I want in a match with me. ON THE OTHER TEAM. I'd like that too. Just say when.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 264	Posted - 2014.10.06 17:53:00 - [108] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Just say when. Tomorrow after school by the old tree. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 2	Posted - 2014.10.06 17:56:00 - [109] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Just say when. Tomorrow after school by the old tree. I was really hoping for high noon on main street.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9670	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:08:00 - [110] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Just say when. Tomorrow after school by the old tree. I was really hoping for high noon on main street. I'll bring the tumbleweed and play the music from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9670	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:16:00 - [111] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: I do know best, I've been playing this ** game since CB. You scrubs joined what? 2 days ago? Dust was released back in May 14, 2013. Closed Beta ended after the first week of January before that. OP's Date of Birth: 2014-05-03 @20:05 Source: http://dustboard.com/global/merc/Pushing_Charlie If this is your alt, which is likely, face us with your main character. If this is really your main, which would be worse, then you've been called out. Again, you and ** your suggestion to punish logis. Now if you excuse me, I'm looking forward to seeing you and LOOKMOM duke it out by the old tree after school. I hope you brought your mom with you so you can have a shoulder to cry on after LOOKMOM beats you up. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7002	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:18:00 - [112] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I do know best, I've been playing this ** game since CB. You scrubs joined what? 2 days ago? Dust was released back in May 14, 2013. Closed Beta ended after the first week of January before that. OP's Date of Birth: 2014-05-03 @20:05 Source: http://dustboard.com/global/merc/Pushing_Charlie If this is your alt, which is likely, face us with your main character. If this is really your main, which would be worse, then you've been called out. Again, you and ** your suggestion to punish logis. Now if you excuse me, I'm looking forward to seeing you and LOOKMOM duke it out by the old tree after school. I hope you brought your mom with you so you can have a shoulder to cry on after LOOKMOM beats you up. How can you not know who OP is? Seriously. Look at his first post very carefully. The mystery should solve itself. I got kicked out of the State War Academy for jury-rigging a contact nade launcher to my Rail Rifle WINMATAR!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9670	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:21:00 - [113] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I do know best, I've been playing this ** game since CB. You scrubs joined what? 2 days ago? Dust was released back in May 14, 2013. Closed Beta ended after the first week of January before that. OP's Date of Birth: 2014-05-03 @20:05 Source: http://dustboard.com/global/merc/Pushing_Charlie If this is your alt, which is likely, face us with your main character. If this is really your main, which would be worse, then you've been called out. Again, you and ** your suggestion to punish logis. Now if you excuse me, I'm looking forward to seeing you and LOOKMOM duke it out by the old tree after school. I hope you brought your mom with you so you can have a shoulder to cry on after LOOKMOM beats you up. How can you not know who OP is? Seriously. Look at his first post very carefully. The mystery should solve itself. You talking about his sig? I don't know Knight Soiaire well enough to see if he acts like that. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7002	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:30:00 - [114] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I do know best, I've been playing this ** game since CB. You scrubs joined what? 2 days ago? Dust was released back in May 14, 2013. Closed Beta ended after the first week of January before that. OP's Date of Birth: 2014-05-03 @20:05 Source: http://dustboard.com/global/merc/Pushing_Charlie If this is your alt, which is likely, face us with your main character. If this is really your main, which would be worse, then you've been called out. Again, you and ** your suggestion to punish logis. Now if you excuse me, I'm looking forward to seeing you and LOOKMOM duke it out by the old tree after school. I hope you brought your mom with you so you can have a shoulder to cry on after LOOKMOM beats you up. How can you not know who OP is? Seriously. Look at his first post very carefully. The mystery should solve itself. You talking about his sig? I don't know Knight Soiaire well enough to see if he acts like that. He always acts like this. Source of humor for FA. We put up with his incessant trolling and scamming because its actually really funny to watch. Watching him play with Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries was hilarious. His corp mails to encourage donations were actually some pretty well-written propaganda and scam. Even set up fake PC's to make it seem real IIRC. I got kicked out of the State War Academy for jury-rigging a contact nade launcher to my Rail Rifle WINMATAR!
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 126	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:34:00 - [115] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I do know best, I've been playing this ** game since CB. You scrubs joined what? 2 days ago? Dust was released back in May 14, 2013. Closed Beta ended after the first week of January before that. OP's Date of Birth: 2014-05-03 @20:05 Source: http://dustboard.com/global/merc/Pushing_Charlie If this is your alt, which is likely, face us with your main character. If this is really your main, which would be worse, then you've been called out. Again, you and ** your suggestion to punish logis. Now if you excuse me, I'm looking forward to seeing you and LOOKMOM duke it out by the old tree after school. I hope you brought your mom with you so you can have a shoulder to cry on after LOOKMOM beats you up. How can you not know who OP is? Seriously. Look at his first post very carefully. The mystery should solve itself. You talking about his sig? I don't know Knight Soiaire well enough to see if he acts like that. He always acts like this. Source of humor for FA. We put up with his incessant trolling and scamming because its actually really funny to watch. Watching him play with Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries was hilarious. His corp mails to encourage donations were actually some pretty well-written propaganda and scam. Even set up fake PC's to make it seem real IIRC. So in short he's the very meaning of low-life scum that people enjoy watching since it's free? Playstyle: Scout~Passionate In-bred Sniper~Support~Enemy finder Weapon: Pro SG~SR~SMG~NK~ScR
hfderrtgvcd 683	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:39:00 - [116] - Quote This thread is a testament to how stupid this community is. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9672	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:52:00 - [117] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: He always acts like this. Source of humor for FA. We put up with his incessant trolling and scamming because its actually really funny to watch. Watching him play with Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries was hilarious. His corp mails to encourage donations were actually some pretty well-written propaganda and scam. Even set up fake PC's to make it seem real IIRC. Well, I guess he played me well like a fiddle. Well played, Knight Soiaire. Well played. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
CLONE ALPHA 001 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 36	Posted - 2014.10.07 06:06:00 - [118] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game, so CCP should prioritize rewarding high K/D players. A player that tops the board with a negative K/D is still a bad player, and should not receive more rewards than someone who goes positive. This is why the following should be added: Daily SP should be changed to 1,000*(Your current K/D); Players with a higher K/D no matter their position on the board should receive more SP and ISK than those who go negative; Getting out of the Academy should require a 2.0 K/D as opposed to a WP requirement; The current events should be based on overall K/D as opposed to overall kills; I do believe that these changes would have a positive effect on player count and skill, furthermore I will bring these suggestions to the eyes of the CPM and ultimately, CCP. your reward IS ISK! in that you lose less by having a high KDR by not dying you have to spend less to restock your suits soooooo technically the system that CCP has made allready rewards you for not sucking.
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 458	Posted - 2014.10.07 07:33:00 - [119] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I also forgot to mention, dropping below a K/D of 2.0 sends you back to the Academy. Ok, right here I can tell you're just trolling. That would definitely send me back to the Academy because I don't care about my KDR. I stopped caring about it 2 years ago. Then you will play with those who also do not give a damn, and leave the ones who still do care about this game to give reasonable and helpful critique on their own. Separating the playerbase based on who cares is a good way to get this game back on track. Lol, I care, but I'm a casual player that doesn't care about k/dr. I do a lot of stuff topull something off tactically that will most certainly get me killed. I also, screw around with stuff and get killed doing it. What happened to enjoying a video game? THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1304	Posted - 2014.10.07 08:31:00 - [120] - Quote Clearly the guys with negative K/D is the ones that needs the SP boost since they need all the help they can get. /c DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status


Cpt McReady Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 104	Posted - 2014.10.07 08:43:00 - [121] - Quote why does this thread still exists? burn it down before the stupidity reaches critical mass....
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 268	Posted - 2014.10.07 15:06:00 - [122] - Quote Cpt McReady wrote: why does this thread still exists? burn it down before the stupidity reaches critical mass.... Legends never die. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 268	Posted - 2014.10.07 15:22:00 - [123] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: I also forgot to mention, dropping below a K/D of 2.0 sends you back to the Academy. Ok, right here I can tell you're just trolling. That would definitely send me back to the Academy because I don't care about my KDR. I stopped caring about it 2 years ago. Then you will play with those who also do not give a damn, and leave the ones who still do care about this game to give reasonable and helpful critique on their own. Separating the playerbase based on who cares is a good way to get this game back on track. Lol, I care, but I'm a casual player that doesn't care about k/dr. I do a lot of stuff topull something off tactically that will most certainly get me killed. I also, screw around with stuff and get killed doing it. What happened to enjoying a video game? Different people find enjoyment out of different methods of play. I'd highly doubt ANYONE would want to play this game unless they really enjoyed it. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 100	Posted - 2014.10.07 17:38:00 - [124] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Quote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game I stopped taking you seriously after you said this. Sorry, but I don't agree with you at all that K/D is the single most important stat in this game. I'm notoriously known for throwing myself into the line of fire on purpose to take down a few redberry bastards with just my knives even if it means I die with them. I killed a lot of bastards this way and a lot of people respect me for that alone. No one gave a rat's ass about my horribad KDR. Answered for me thanks.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1026	Posted - 2014.10.07 17:53:00 - [125] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game. We'll see how many people reply before I post your final score. Updating with final score: 6/10. You picked a volatile topic that resonates with players, but you are being too aggressive in your "I'm not a troll" routine. Subtly is key here. If you can make it to 5 pages worth of responses I will raise it to 7/10, but that's the best I can do. Update 2: Ladies and gentlemen, he's done it. 5 pages of responses earns the OP a respectable 7/10. 50% of the posts were his own. He's barely made it to 2 pages if you subtract his self abwhores, and the spam multi-posts which artificially inflate the page counts. You get a 1/10 for not noticing. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 269	Posted - 2014.10.07 18:12:00 - [126] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Our K/D is the single most important stat in this game. We'll see how many people reply before I post your final score. Updating with final score: 6/10. You picked a volatile topic that resonates with players, but you are being too aggressive in your "I'm not a troll" routine. Subtly is key here. If you can make it to 5 pages worth of responses I will raise it to 7/10, but that's the best I can do. Update 2: Ladies and gentlemen, he's done it. 5 pages of responses earns the OP a respectable 7/10. 50% of the posts were his own. He's barely made it to 2 pages if you subtract his self abwhores, and the spam multi-posts which artificially inflate the page counts. You get a 1/10 for not noticing. Unless I miscounted, it's actually 22.4%. #MathOwned Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 839	Posted - 2014.10.07 20:38:00 - [127] - Quote "skill" does not exist on this game. it never did. only the quiet few who said "**** it. im going in" and actually did pretty decent no matter the odds. but those moments are gone forever now. they have been for some time now. dust 514 shall be eternal. pve for dust 514. hmmm a shiny red button!. ima press it! WARNING! SELF DESTRUCT ACTIVATED.


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