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postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 116	Posted - 2014.10.03 21:39:00 - [91] - Quote Atiim wrote: Damn these Gallenteans and their giant walls of text. Someone needs to confiscate their keyboards. U know thats Gallentean thingie, they need everything opulent, needfull and big. Caldaries are like, oki this is needed and this. Amarrs ale like oh, we are this and we will have that like that. And with amari people its mostly like, oki we can try this together with that and maybe it possible. XD "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 110	Posted - 2014.10.03 21:51:00 - [92] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: I agree with you on the sidearms, but I still don't understand why the ScP (aside from the Breach variant) took such a huge damage nerf for no absolute reason. Prior to Delta, I seldom saw anyone with an ScP aside from MLT blueberries. The ScP had already received a RoF nerf a while back. It should've been kept that way. Now it's practically nothing but an Amarr Ion pistol. Edit: Well at least it still has its headshot bonus, but nonetheless the nerf wasn't warranted. i love using the "amarr ion pistol" its so fun running dual breaches on a galscout.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 116	Posted - 2014.10.03 21:52:00 - [93] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: I agree with you on the sidearms, but I still don't understand why the ScP (aside from the Breach variant) took such a huge damage nerf for no absolute reason. Prior to Delta, I seldom saw anyone with an ScP aside from MLT blueberries. The ScP had already received a RoF nerf a while back. It should've been kept that way. Now it's practically nothing but an Amarr Ion pistol. Edit: Well at least it still has its headshot bonus, but nonetheless the nerf wasn't warranted. i love using the "amarr ion pistol" its so fun running dual breaches on a galscout. I thought ION is gallentean and scrable is amarrian "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2441	Posted - 2014.10.03 22:26:00 - [94] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I've said it back then and I'll say it now. The reason the AR was dominating the kill feed was because... "Yes, the HAV is dominating the battlefield right now. But its totally fine because _____ and _____." - Taki, Spkr (Uprising 1.7) "Yes, the AR is dominating the battlefield right now. But its totally fine because _____ and _____." - Cat, Aeon, Regnum, Ydubbs, etc (Uprising 1.1 - 1.6) "Yes, the scout is dominating the battlefield right now. But a good way to nerf it to appease the general populace while not completely breaking it is _____ and _____." - Very long list of posters from the barbershop (Uprising 1.8 onwards) Fixed. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 111	Posted - 2014.10.03 22:49:00 - [95] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: I agree with you on the sidearms, but I still don't understand why the ScP (aside from the Breach variant) took such a huge damage nerf for no absolute reason. Prior to Delta, I seldom saw anyone with an ScP aside from MLT blueberries. The ScP had already received a RoF nerf a while back. It should've been kept that way. Now it's practically nothing but an Amarr Ion pistol. Edit: Well at least it still has its headshot bonus, but nonetheless the nerf wasn't warranted. i love using the "amarr ion pistol" its so fun running dual breaches on a galscout. I thought ION is gallentean and scrable is amarrian so i guess you either A) didnt read the quote or B) didnt see i put quotations aroun amarr ion pistol
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 111	Posted - 2014.10.03 22:55:00 - [96] - Quote TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote: Quote: 8) V/AV, this is a longer standing issue. Let's just work together to make it fun for everyone. ] You need to get people or at least motivate them to spec into their own vehicles as I always say nothing kills a tank better then a tank or a drop ship. One guy should not force me off a point immediately after I get their just because he is shooting down on me with a bunch of SP just so I can run away. No one tanks or even dropships anymore so if a respect to occur im sure allot of people would be happy to put their SP into proto stomping weapons like everyone else just letting you know. then even if i pull a tank to kill a tank i get aved right away.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 117	Posted - 2014.10.03 23:02:00 - [97] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: I agree with you on the sidearms, but I still don't understand why the ScP (aside from the Breach variant) took such a huge damage nerf for no absolute reason. Prior to Delta, I seldom saw anyone with an ScP aside from MLT blueberries. The ScP had already received a RoF nerf a while back. It should've been kept that way. Now it's practically nothing but an Amarr Ion pistol. Edit: Well at least it still has its headshot bonus, but nonetheless the nerf wasn't warranted. i love using the "amarr ion pistol" its so fun running dual breaches on a galscout. I thought ION is gallentean and scrable is amarrian so i guess you either A) didnt read the quote or B) didnt see i put quotations aroun amarr ion pistol Nope sorry i get it now i have issue with "long connection" sometimes (have AS) "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 2494	Posted - 2014.10.03 23:24:00 - [98] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: So they Nerfed Vehicles while at the Same time...buffed AV. Now, this is the about the first time that they did this so it was acceptable but we ended up seeing that AV became too powerful against vehicles which made them kinda useless. A few months later they decide to take another swing at this. The solution was to Nerf AV while at the same time BUFFING Vehicles which somehow, *to their actual* surprise resulted in Vehicles becoming overpowered compared to Anti-Vehicle roles. This didn't happen once throughout DUST history, not twice, not even three times in this games lifetime but around 9 times** of going in this clearly obvious cycle that they could have easily escaped from. What if there is no true balance though, and there is only cycling between metas? I will take the example of League of Legends. Love it or hate it, you've got to agree that for the game to survive, the champions players use cannot exhibit massive strengths over others. Yet, in each season, there ARE a few champions that are better than the rest. Watch the World championships, you will see these same champions banned and picked over and over again because the top teams know that in the current 'meta', they outshine the 100 or so other champions available to be picked. 100 unused champions in a global championship! Talk about redundancy, am I right? Or is it? Are these champions simply waiting for their time to shine? Indeed, Riot has never specified their goal is to seek balance: if you have a look at their design values they pursue Mastery, counterplay, teamplay, clarity, evolution. No balance. Because it's obvious when you involve real players, finding real balance is going to be difficult if not utterly impossible. So what does Riot do? They swap back and forth between metas, allowing champions whose kits are simply outmatched or power is simply outscaled by the current meta, to take the stage through a series of buffs and nerfs. This 'clearly obvious cycle that they could have easily escaped from' is clearly a cycle, but not easily escaped from. In fact, I would daresay it isn't something you want to escape from. > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12499	Posted - 2014.10.04 00:29:00 - [99] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I've said it back then and I'll say it now. The reason the AR was dominating the kill feed was because... "Yes, the HAV is dominating the battlefield right now. But its totally fine because _____ and _____." - Taki, Spkr (Uprising 1.7) "Yes, the AR is dominating the battlefield right now. But its totally fine because _____ and _____." - Cat, Aeon, Regnum, Ydubbs, etc (Uprising 1.1 - 1.6) Nice strawman you got there. People tend to gravitate to general purpose weapons, situational weapons are just that, situational. They're great where they work, but those moments when they don't tick people off. This was true with the AR, and it's still true (Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle, Scrambler Rifle, Plasma Rifle, HMG) I don't actually remember any shooter in recent memory where rifles or their analogue in said game aren't the most common weapons by far. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12499	Posted - 2014.10.04 00:34:00 - [100] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Right alongside specific balance concerns and discussions, which are well documented and continue to this day (present concerns including fire-from-cloak and your very own, best-in-class bricked GalScout). By comparison, I don't recall many instances of give-and-take on the AR side of AR-514 discussions. I distinctly recall lots of "get good", "everything is fine", and a variety of excuses for the rampant and sustained imbalance. Seemed at the time more like players circling wagons than players interested in balance. I knew you'd immediately feel that was an unjust accusation. And yes, it was. But your lumping Cat Merc and Kirk in with the likes of Spkr is exactly the same - completely unjust. You accuse people of insults and then do that? Really? I know that they both have supported necessary changes because I've worked on threads with them. I used to write a frankly absurd number of balance threads and I have a hell of a lot of correspondence with both of them on many of them. You came into this thread, looked at a handful of complaints, and promptly misinterpreted them hugely. No, Kirk is not 'seeking a return to AR514'. Kirk was frustrated with some of the plasma rifle nerfs, and rightly so. Can you seriously claim that the 1.8 nerf to the breach rifle was necessary? Rattati has since given it serious attention, but it was in a poor way for a long time and Kirk competed against CRs and RRs in their prime with plasma weaponry. I'm sure he's certainly sentimentally attached to them just as you are to scouts - but comments on historical balance screwups hardly warrant accusing the guy of wanting it buffed beyond all reason. Absolutely fair, Arkena. I didn't suspect that Kirk was lobbying for another round of AR-514, but I did believe both Cat and Kirk to be quick-to-excuse AR-514's inexcusable imbalance. I was totally unaware that either of them made efforts to end the AR's supreme reign. Apologies, Cat & Kirk. I'd long believed you both to be AR-514 apologists; Arkena has set my thinking straight. I like where the AR is right now, just so you'll understand my line of thinking. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC

Ziiro Celeste Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 304	Posted - 2014.10.04 01:26:00 - [101] - Quote I say buff scrambler rifles! Go Amarr!!!1!!one! Aisha Ctarl if you didn't know
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1012	Posted - 2014.10.04 01:27:00 - [102] - Quote Ziiro Celeste wrote: I say buff scrambler rifles! Go Amarr!!!1!!one! Yas thank you caldari Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
Atiim 12695	Posted - 2014.10.04 02:46:00 - [103] - Quote Ziiro Celeste wrote: I say buff scrambler rifles! Go Amarr!!!1!!one! And I say you'd have to be a mega-scrub to need a SCR buff. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
iKILLu osborne ripley's believe it or die 360	Posted - 2014.10.04 06:41:00 - [104] - Quote just an idea, i if you lowered squad count it would allow for more balanced teams cause scotty would have more room to place solo players of higher (or lower) mu to balance things out. my suggestion would help but i'm prepared for the shitstorm of hate so let it rain. lp cal scout i demand it
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1645	Posted - 2014.10.04 10:35:00 - [105] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Leanna I challenge you to provide proof then :D I already have in previous statements. Just read anything in this thread i typed about the subject and you will see the proof right before your very eyes. Not only that but like i said before gaming is a business. And like all businesses they are about making money. That in itself is proof enough. That's not proof. That's Editorial. come on every intelligent person that has played dust for a long time knows its true. how can with every patch cycle there is something so wildly more OP than everything else for two years now. just look at before delta with the burst HMG fireing 6000 RPM. or the bolt pistol doing 250 damage. by making something ridiculously better then its counterparts one can only assume its about the money. and if its not about the money then we have a big problem being that the Devs really have no clue how to balance. it takes most shooting games 3-5 months when they come out to reach good balance. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4127	Posted - 2014.10.04 23:25:00 - [106] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: just an idea, i if you lowered squad count it would allow for more balanced teams cause scotty would have more room to place solo players of higher (or lower) mu to balance things out. my suggestion would help but i'm prepared for the shitstorm of hate so let it rain. Not a bad idea. 6 person squads with teams of 16 never made sense anyway. Make them 4 man squads. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
iKILLu osborne ripley's believe it or die 363	Posted - 2014.10.05 07:01:00 - [107] - Quote Atiim wrote: Ziiro Celeste wrote: I say buff scrambler rifles! Go Amarr!!!1!!one! And I say you'd have to be a mega-scrub to need a SCR buff. not really with the recent changes to scr heat build up its very easy to overheat when faced with more then one opponent, i find my self using the acr and rr more often even though i'm prof.5 in scr, i even considered running a rr on my amarr assault but i don't want the neighborhood kids laughing at me. lp cal scout i demand it
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 827	Posted - 2014.10.09 10:26:00 - [108] - Quote More FA QQ - nothing more, nothing less.


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