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Atiim 12645	Posted - 2014.10.01 20:58:00 - [1] - Quote How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Hakyou Brutor Hak's Candy Van 1381	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:04:00 - [2] - Quote i havent just played pc, i won pc, futher more, i won dust. pc, better than pubs but still crap
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 369	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:09:00 - [3] - Quote Played a couple of them as a filler (wouldn't call myself a ringer), and they were actually better than pubs. However my problem with PC at the moment is that it seems to be a big corp exclusive. Yes smaller corps can pay guys like me or some decent ringers and can attempt to win, but most of the smaller corps don't have enough ISK to pay for ringers or to even engage in PC. I really wish they bring back Corp Battles. Drink until you can't drink no more. Then grab another bottle and drink some more! - Demetrious 'Jonny' Buelle.
Varoth Drac Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 240	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:10:00 - [4] - Quote 35 mil sp, playing since closed beta, never been in PC. New corp I'm in does it though so maybe, if I'm available at the right time.
G Felix Pure Evil. 28	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:16:00 - [5] - Quote I enjoy the added sense of urgency and the vastly improved teamwork on both sides. And there's nothing more entertaining than seeing some good old fashioned Awox shenanigans first hand.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming 1330	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:23:00 - [6] - Quote I've played a fair few PC's Can't say its really my thing but when the corp has need I like to help out. Overall I like the overall better level of competence (no offence blueberries) but I can't stand that large parts of the game are simply not viable on that level. Which brings me on the the aspect that really irritates me - If its broken and gives an edge then people are going to do it. Its an odd mix of both frantic and action packed whilst simultaneously also dull. "The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun" "Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
Pushing Charlie 244	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:30:00 - [7] - Quote **** Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 141	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:30:00 - [8] - Quote I played it a few times awhile back, but I don't care much to do so again. I follow the news every once awhile and my thoughts is that there is a lot of cheese .
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1593	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:32:00 - [9] - Quote I played some PC's a while back. At the time I enjoyed them a lot because it actually felt like I was fighting for something. Now that we all know Dust's PC isn't going to have any impact on New Eden, they're just expensive corp battles for bragging rights. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2766	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:38:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I haven't played in PC for quite a while. It no longer holds interest for me. The rewards aren't great enough; my main complaint is the accessability. To me, it always felt like there was no room from smaller corps to be involved, and if they managed to do so, they were steamrolled continually day after day until people can no longer afford to participate. Keep in mind my experiences are about 8+ months ago; not sure of the current status. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning

Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3706	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:38:00 - [11] - Quote Played a few. Hate working with some groups, love working with others. It's way better than pubs because of the rush, and the payout is nice, too. Thing is, most matches are late at night and I don't really care to play aggressively when I should be getting sleep. I'd rather stick to pubs where I can get a match at any time.
y678iop Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:42:00 - [12] - Quote Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? Played, fun, lag, to much roof top. Dont like the attitudes it creates. Elitism. People who dont realize pubs are waaaaaaay more important for the health of a game than PC. Just like ANY game. This is an alt. It is here to be banned, so that I may be outrageous and speak the TRUTH.
Immortal John Ripper 24906	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:42:00 - [13] - Quote never played one. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555 Ping me maybe?
General John Ripper 24906	Posted - 2014.10.01 21:42:00 - [14] - Quote never played one. Hey I just met you, and this is crazy Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555 Ping me maybe?
Maitue Mae Involuntary Manslaughter 98	Posted - 2014.10.01 22:06:00 - [15] - Quote I played it several times, but my team was bad. I wish I could play it with some hardcore players, but who wants a Pro Cal Assault in place of a heavy or logi? MAG SVER Veteran. Five Hundredth and Fourteenth Legion: The Dusters.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1316	Posted - 2014.10.01 22:14:00 - [16] - Quote The rewards have made it tougher for new mercs to get involved (not impossible) I think people have been scared off of PC and without incentive to try get active they won't I think the PC community is happy to see more corps bringing teams into battles So now is a good time to get active as the there are mercs that will help you stay active, Though I highly advise against ringers (it removes the chance for a new team to learn) And they end up getting carried for a few wins then left without help they cannot hold on PC is flawed but two things mercs should consider - Dust may not be active in a years time, enjoy it while you can - PC is a gamble. mercs deploying should be aware you are laying ISK on the line .. You may lose it It's a good experience and it is a shame so much of our playerbase misses out on it. There are corps in Molden Heath than can assist in getting land for corps to train on, it's good to start from there Get involved and help create the best content we have in Dust514 currently (PC combat) Innapropriate Irrelevence... Welcome to the Dust Forum, hang around to see why everyone else left :/
Henrietta Unknown CREATURES OF THE NIGHT 332	Posted - 2014.10.01 22:16:00 - [17] - Quote Played as a logi in two. There were nothing but Brick Sentinels, their logis, and FOTM-build scouts. I decided that I actually preferred pubs. (You still get ISK even if you lose + dumb spam tactics are more easier countered) Henrietta Reborn
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4667	Posted - 2014.10.01 22:18:00 - [18] - Quote Never played a PCGÇª But if anyone wishes to fund my extraordinarily stupid solo attack against a corp in PC feel free to drop me some ISK KRRROOOOOOM
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2207	Posted - 2014.10.01 22:34:00 - [19] - Quote I regularly ADS for Molon and sometimes other Corps in Tso's. It's much more fun than Pubs. I enjoy the actual teamwork required, the rewards (boatloads of cash, though it doesn't mean too much to me, and salvage is always exciting), and actually having competitive matches that aren't one-sided all the time. I can't count how many close calls, single ticks, and skin-of-our-teeth clone reserves we've had, some won, some lost, but all exciting. My only real nagging problem is the lag some matches. I really think the lag reduces my ADSs agility, not just framerate. Other issues exist as well but those are for another thread. Dust was real! I was there! My current background
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 71	Posted - 2014.10.01 22:42:00 - [20] - Quote I've done about 20+ PCs. From what I've seen, PCs are... A great oppurtunity to waste proto suits. A good way to find out how OP the Shotgun/Scout combo can be. A time to run against full squads of protoheavies with logis on their tails A way to earn a sh*tload of ISK. (if you win) Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.

BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3175	Posted - 2014.10.01 22:46:00 - [21] - Quote Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I played PC once or twice I dont recall. I avoid playing PC... Why? It is laggy, it is riddled with FOTM, if you are not obliterating your enemy you lose money... a lot of money, and overall it's is very irritating. I like how competitive it is, I just hate the current tactics that make it competitive. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 71	Posted - 2014.10.01 22:52:00 - [22] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I played PC once or twice I dont recall. I avoid playing PC... Why? It is laggy, it is riddled with FOTM, if you are not obliterating your enemy you lose money... a lot of money, and overall it's is very irritating. I like how competitive it is, I just hate the current tactics that make it competitive. I remember I did a PC where I went on a militia scout frame for the whole match. Kills: 13 Deaths: 9 Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 9392	Posted - 2014.10.01 23:02:00 - [23] - Quote PC is fun IMO. The competition is much better than pubs (when the enemies show up) and the teamwork is amazing. Even if we lose a match, I'm fine with that if it was a good fight. i like waffles
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 25	Posted - 2014.10.01 23:09:00 - [24] - Quote No place for assault suits.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 364	Posted - 2014.10.01 23:17:00 - [25] - Quote Played it a few times at different points in the past. I'll have to say it was the most fun when it wasn't dominated by a small selection of tactics, in the very beginning. Then it was alright. Since then, I've never really gotten the appeal. It has basically become the proving grounds for the OP stuff in that particular patch since then. Not a test of skill anymore. It's a test of who can use the cheapest tactics/most OP gear, with the winners getting an endless ISK faucet.
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 425	Posted - 2014.10.01 23:25:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I have not played PC, but from my experience no one wants a drunk sniping and flying DS for the lols. Also, I am confident enough in the size of my c*ck that I do not need to measure it nor do I feel the need to own make-believe property. I mean, it isn't like the maps and game modes are any different. It is like WoW. Same mobs only more powerful. Am I the only one that keeps thinking of Mr. Roger's neighborhood of make-believe when Molten Heath being locked down was ever mentioned? Also also, Molten Heath is lols. Give me Providence control and PI and maybe I'll bite. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3344	Posted - 2014.10.01 23:42:00 - [27] - Quote Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: No place for assault suits. Assaults are actually really effective on Bridge map and a few select areas like "B" on 3in 2out cargo but out side of that they can barely compete against clusters of heavies and constantly getting RE spammed and shotgunned. Tanker/Logi/Assault
IVIaster LUKE 704	Posted - 2014.10.01 23:53:00 - [28] - Quote IMO, it was more interesting fighting for a 'purse' of ISK in Corp Battles than PC salvage. Old school - put your money where your mouth is. New School - I'm coming for your district Biotch. People for Eating Tasty Animals. Proud member of PETA. My food $hits on your food vegan. R.I.P. BENDECCO 1970-2014.
BlazeXYZ G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 262	Posted - 2014.10.01 23:59:00 - [29] - Quote Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I had my first PC battle with gods earlier this week. It was actually easy probably because everyone was running militia lol. However, you get rewarded greatly like 2 mil sp and tons of salvage. The Blazing Intellect Machine
Sergeant Sazu New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 138	Posted - 2014.10.02 00:20:00 - [30] - Quote I've done it 3 times. I received no enjoyment out of it. Plus, no one wants a regen-tanked Assault with breach weapons. That's the problem: it's just a contest of who can spam FoTM gear better. It feels like the fun is sucked out of it and everyone simply desires the victory and nothing else. So I'll just continue running public matches and chillin' with the angry tanker. (Panda Uzimaki) "Breach weapon specialist..." -Puts two pairs of sunglasses on Assault gk.0- "...before it was cool."

Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1189	Posted - 2014.10.02 02:16:00 - [31] - Quote I've played about a dozen. In some ways they are easier for me because I usually run solo and having a team working with you makes it easier. It is faster and furiouser but kind of stupid unless you are a shotgun scout or heavy, even then I don't really enjoy it. A lot of the time it is taking the things that are most broken in the game and spamming them and calling it good playing. I do enjoy the fact that teamwork, strategy and playing together pays off. Because, that's why.
hfderrtgvcd 604	Posted - 2014.10.02 02:24:00 - [32] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: No place for assault suits. Assaults are actually really effective on Bridge map and a few select areas like "B" on 3in 2out cargo but out side of that they can barely compete against clusters of heavies and constantly getting RE spammed and shotgunned. Saw kalante get 25+ kills in a min assault in the city cargo hub. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4552	Posted - 2014.10.02 02:36:00 - [33] - Quote I have never played in it. I imagine it to be one of those secret clubs that you always see people enter and gossip about, then when you finally get behind the door, its not all it is cracked up to be. I just miss the pre LP FW. That was perfect. Better competition than Pubs, no FF. It was a blast. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 1455	Posted - 2014.10.02 02:38:00 - [34] - Quote y678iop wrote: Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? Played, fun, lag, to much roof top. Dont like the attitudes it creates. Elitism. People who dont realize pubs are waaaaaaay more important for the health of a game than PC. Just like ANY game. This merc speaks truth. I played 3 or 4 PC battles, wasn't impressed. Now that the ISK faucet is gone, there's really no point beyond epeen and chest beating. The thing that annoys me with it is the elitism of "pc corps" and the PC 1337 kids shitting up every balance thread with "fuk pubs, this would be OP/UP in PC, balance the game for PC, if ur not in PC corp ur scrub ur game experience doesn't mean anything, fuk if u have fun or not kekekekekekekekekek" It's like.. dude, stuff it. The 95% of us who aren't doing PC want a fun game. I like nova knives and sniper rifles. If that's not "viable" in the "competitive" game, then forget the competitive game, I'll stick to my pubs where I can stab and snipe without some FC telling me what I need to do to be "useful." Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
X7 lion Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 291	Posted - 2014.10.02 10:55:00 - [35] - Quote Its just skirmish with people who "try hard" (not try hards specifically) but a greater isk sink & over all pointless because holding districts can run at a loss & if profit is made its not necessarily even seen by alot of the participating corp members. Do not contribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance. being contradictory is not the same as being offensive.
DAAAA BEAST BEAST EMPIRE 109	Posted - 2014.10.02 11:40:00 - [36] - Quote Yes I do play games on the PC that I have in my house ... Sniper Hunting and Noobs Trolling are my specialities. Dust 514 Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/DAAAABEAST
Mike De Luca STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME 341	Posted - 2014.10.02 12:01:00 - [37] - Quote Nope, n no desire to. From what I've heard from others it's just a laggy e-peen strokefest, which I just don't care for. what i think of when charging fg
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1856	Posted - 2014.10.02 12:20:00 - [38] - Quote Played a fair few PC`s back in my Anonymous days. Found it had potential but was a cesspit of lag. Have played one or two PC`s more recently over the last 3 or 4 months and actually I was surprised that the lag seems to have been fixed. Honestly there is just so little incentive for the average player to bother. I totally understand the draw for organisations and clans and stuff but its just a glorified skirmish match to the average player :S I for one would be more drawn if there was a chance at rare or special loot, something like that that really made doing PC more than just about deciding who is best. I dont have much need for isk, I tend to use cheap stuff all the time anyway. Yea, special loot, rare loot.... something like that might peak my interest. (Also the fact that I am a pretty average skill player doesn't exactly help my case) "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 72	Posted - 2014.10.02 13:19:00 - [39] - Quote Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: No place for assault suits. I've seen plenty of Assault gk.0s, brick tanking with complex plates and Duvolles. Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 755	Posted - 2014.10.02 13:20:00 - [40] - Quote There's a lot more to being in PC than just spamming FOTM. Silly pubsters.

ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1617	Posted - 2014.10.02 13:28:00 - [41] - Quote I played decent number of games for a month or two. Laggy with the exact same tactics literally every game. Pubs were more fun because people would think outside of the box, not just, 'take Logi with Links and Hives to rings with Forge, have sit all game'. I mean, yea, pubs can devolve into a a who can have the highest point, but not every single game. As I was forced to ADS for no known reason, I think I ground gamed for a total of 20 minutes in all my PCs, not including the Escrow ones where they were tied up and I got to do the whole match myself, those I played a lot on the ground. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
benandjerrys NECROM0NGERS 18	Posted - 2014.10.02 14:16:00 - [42] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I haven't played in PC for quite a while. It no longer holds interest for me. The rewards aren't great enough; my main complaint is the accessability. To me, it always felt like there was no room from smaller corps to be involved, and if they managed to do so, they were steamrolled continually day after day until people can no longer afford to participate. Keep in mind my experiences are about 8+ months ago; not sure of the current status. Exactly why I want dust wide staged fights in faction not just this min channel or that cal channel, but its not catching on yet. Tl; dr Shamelessly promoting FACTION FIGHT CLUB channel
John ShepardIII DUST University 906	Posted - 2014.10.02 14:20:00 - [43] - Quote I use assault suits all the time in PC The True Shepard. Helping noobs everywhere. **Lvl .9 Forum Warrior
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1601	Posted - 2014.10.02 15:38:00 - [44] - Quote I've probably played in almost as many PCs as anyone over the past year and three quarters. I've probably died more times than anyone, too. lol To me, PC is the highest level and most enjoyable part of this game, and it's what has kept me interested in it for as long as it has. Pubbing is loads of fun, playing with or just shooting the **** with my corpmates and alliance mates brings me enjoyment, playing with new suits/weapons is also a lot of fun. However, competing against the best teams and the best players that this game has to offer -- win or lose -- is the real appeal to me. Adapting your tactics and refining them over time and getting better in this arena gives me a real sense of accomplishment. That's not to say that PC doesn't have it's share of problems -- lag, FoTM, the same maps over and over and over again -- but rather it's the place that you can truly test your skills and the skills of your team against the best that this game has to offer. And I think I just died twenty more times in the city while I posted this. lol
SoTa Senpai Ametat Security Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2014.10.02 16:14:00 - [45] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: y678iop wrote: Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? Played, fun, lag, to much roof top. Dont like the attitudes it creates. Elitism. People who dont realize pubs are waaaaaaay more important for the health of a game than PC. Just like ANY game. This merc speaks truth. I played 3 or 4 PC battles, wasn't impressed. Now that the ISK faucet is gone, there's really no point beyond epeen and chest beating. The thing that annoys me with it is the elitism of "pc corps" and the PC 1337 kids shitting up every balance thread with "fuk pubs, this would be OP/UP in PC, balance the game for PC, if ur not in PC corp ur scrub ur game experience doesn't mean anything, fuk if u have fun or not kekekekekekekekekek" It's like.. dude, stuff it. The 95% of us who aren't doing PC want a fun game. I like nova knives and sniper rifles. If that's not "viable" in the "competitive" game, then forget the competitive game, I'll stick to my pubs where I can stab and snipe without some FC telling me what I need to do to be "useful." When CCP talked of this game, it wasn't meant for the casual player. It was meant for those with ambition to fight through filth and scum and ideals to create there own lore for there merc, which would in turn, create a story the universe Dust would expand upon and grow and bring to New Eden to fleshed out how the game evolved in both mechanics and lore. It was a wonderful sell - to us hardcore gamers, to felt like CCP was trying to make a heaven for us, a place to ** talk, smack each other around, and beat each other to a pulp while taking each others ** from one another constantly in both the matches themselves and the lands. Casuals wouldn't be able to compete - the progression system would see to that, as being versatile on a tactically played FPS is a huge advantage that often cannot be over-come. Especially against a team set up to hit every counter or FOTM spam the game can offer. Probably the reason team deploy wasn't added in after corp battles were removed, would of been the nail to the coffin for casuals. PC is where this game is meant to be - where this game is meant to evolve and bring interest. The lobby shooter the '95%' of you play, isn't Dust. It's just the mechanics of Dust used to better help CCP gain data to balance and fix the game. Dust is in the land battles, where the hearts and souls of players collide to see who cares more about winning. It's cut-throat. Lethal. And not meant for the weak of heart.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1593	Posted - 2014.10.02 16:50:00 - [46] - Quote SoTa Senpai wrote: PC is where this game is meant to be - where this game is meant to evolve and bring interest. The lobby shooter the '95%' of you play, isn't Dust. It's just the mechanics of Dust used to better help CCP gain data to balance and fix the game. That's just some stupid elitist bullsh!t right there. It's like saying the only thing EVE is meant to be is Nullsec. Pubs are what have kept Dust alive, without them there wouldn't be enough players to justify so much as replacing the light bulb in the battle server room. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
SoTa Senpai Ametat Security Amarr Empire 239	Posted - 2014.10.02 17:08:00 - [47] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: SoTa Senpai wrote: PC is where this game is meant to be - where this game is meant to evolve and bring interest. The lobby shooter the '95%' of you play, isn't Dust. It's just the mechanics of Dust used to better help CCP gain data to balance and fix the game. That's just some stupid elitist bullsh!t right there. It's like saying the only thing EVE is meant to be is Nullsec. Pubs are what have kept Dust alive, without them there wouldn't be enough players to justify so much as replacing the light bulb in the battle server room. This is an MMOFPSRTSRPG. In what part of that does it say LOBBY SHOOTER? Because that is what casuals are trying to do to this game, turn it into nothing more then that. And the QQing is probably what took CCP off there original course for content and concentrated on core mechanics that were almost PERFECT a ******* YEAR ago. I know you guys feel empowered because your many, and those of us who can handle PC are few, but accept it. This was the vision CCP themselves had. The Lobby shooter aspect was all you guys were getting to enjoy the mechanics, while the real game happened in Planetary Conquest and Faction Warfare. That is not elitism, that is an amazing game. The Lobby Shooter your fighting for the causal for is what will kill this game ultimately because there will be no appeal to play outside what can be done in match - but Dust is meant to be so much more, so much harder, and you guys just keep crying to dumb it down. Now PC is broken beyond belief and CCP can't put enough attention on it because the majority of our players are now casuals cause all the PC players quit out of rage of fanfest. So all there attention is on the immediate problems of the so called 'community' as is usually there focus. Which is fine, NPE need such work PC can take a back seat easily, but denying what this game is about, that is something I'll troll you for. What's sad is you guys feel like your as invested in this game as we are, you're not. Not even close. Though, in your case Thumb Green, there'd be an exception. You've been around quite a while, lol. It's still not elitist to say any of this - that's some insane bullshit to even think so.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 757	Posted - 2014.10.02 17:28:00 - [48] - Quote SoTa Senpai wrote: What's sad is you guys feel like your as invested in this game as we are, you're not. Not even close. This is so true. PC is a job in itself which takes dedication and a will to survive. Most these kids lost that back when they were handed participation trophies in tee-ball.
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 141	Posted - 2014.10.02 17:38:00 - [49] - Quote SoTa Senpai wrote: Thumb Green wrote: SoTa Senpai wrote: PC is where this game is meant to be - where this game is meant to evolve and bring interest. The lobby shooter the '95%' of you play, isn't Dust. It's just the mechanics of Dust used to better help CCP gain data to balance and fix the game. That's just some stupid elitist bullsh!t right there. It's like saying the only thing EVE is meant to be is Nullsec. Pubs are what have kept Dust alive, without them there wouldn't be enough players to justify so much as replacing the light bulb in the battle server room. This is an MMOFPSRTSRPG. In what part of that does it say LOBBY SHOOTER? Because that is what casuals are trying to do to this game, turn it into nothing more then that. And the QQing is probably what took CCP off there original course for content and concentrated on core mechanics that were almost PERFECT a ******* YEAR ago. I know you guys feel empowered because your many, and those of us who can handle PC are few, but accept it. This was the vision CCP themselves had. The Lobby shooter aspect was all you guys were getting to enjoy the mechanics, while the real game happened in Planetary Conquest and Faction Warfare. That is not elitism, that is an amazing game. The Lobby Shooter your fighting for the causal for is what will kill this game ultimately because there will be no appeal to play outside what can be done in match - but Dust is meant to be so much more, so much harder, and you guys just keep crying to dumb it down. Now PC is broken beyond belief and CCP can't put enough attention on it because the majority of our players are now casuals cause all the PC players quit out of rage of fanfest. So all there attention is on the immediate problems of the so called 'community' as is usually there focus. Which is fine, NPE need such work PC can take a back seat easily, but denying what this game is about, that is something I'll troll you for. What's sad is you guys feel like your as invested in this game as we are, you're not. Not even close. Though, in your case Thumb Green, there'd be an exception. You've been around quite a while, lol. It's still not elitist to say any of this - that's some insane bullshit to even think so. It has always been nothing but a lobby shooter . CCP purposefully designed it to be a lobby shooter, genius. The definition of a lobby shooter is basically you wait in a lobby to find matches and spend a limited time in a match which will be all or most of your gaming experience, basically Dust was this for the get-go since the beta. As for PC, well it was just a partially broken gamemode that a lot of corps used to gain a bunch of isk that is hardly used for much and a place to find more harder matches, now it is a place to find harder matches. That is not a reason for most players to spend a lot of the time to get into. It is CCP's job to give bigger benefit and reason for many players to jump in and obviously they failed at that . So it is not the players fault for not giving a damn about what very little of what the population did and later it wasn't CCP's fault for focusing on something that was heavily criticized by critics and many players. PC was/is very unpopular for the majority of the player base , you can't expect a company to focus on that , but that said company didn't do a good job from the beginning with that gamemode either.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1858	Posted - 2014.10.02 17:38:00 - [50] - Quote SoTa Senpai wrote: [quote=Thumb Green][quote=SoTa Senpai] This is an MMOFPSRTSRPG. As an avid fan of RTS games for a long time, I take issue with the RTS part. However thinking about it, you are right in the sense that a proper battle commander could use the tactical overlay map (Much like a commander would in the Battlefield series of games) and coordinate strategy and team position etc.... I've just never seen that be done myself (are there PC teams that are that deep?) "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 1591	Posted - 2014.10.02 17:40:00 - [51] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I played PC once or twice I dont recall. I avoid playing PC... Why? It is laggy, it is riddled with FOTM, if you are not obliterating your enemy you lose money... a lot of money, and overall it's is very irritating. I like how competitive it is, I just hate the current tactics that make it competitive. ^This so much. "I think not having a heart or soul in this case is an asset." - One Eyed King
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1593	Posted - 2014.10.02 17:41:00 - [52] - Quote SoTa Senpai wrote: This is an MMOFPSRTSRPG. In what part of that does it say LOBBY SHOOTER? Because that is what casuals are trying to do to this game, turn it into nothing more then that. And the QQing is probably what took CCP off there original course for content and concentrated on core mechanics that were almost PERFECT a ******* YEAR ago. I know you guys feel empowered because your many, and those of us who can handle PC are few, but accept it. This was the vision CCP themselves had. The Lobby shooter aspect was all you guys were getting to enjoy the mechanics, while the real game happened in Planetary Conquest and Faction Warfare. That is not elitism, that is an amazing game. The Lobby Shooter your fighting for the causal for is what will kill this game ultimately because there will be no appeal to play outside what can be done in match - but Dust is meant to be so much more, so much harder, and you guys just keep crying to dumb it down. Now PC is broken beyond belief and CCP can't put enough attention on it because the majority of our players are now casuals cause all the PC players quit out of rage of fanfest. So all there attention is on the immediate problems of the so called 'community' as is usually there focus. Which is fine, NPE need such work PC can take a back seat easily, but denying what this game is about, that is something I'll troll you for. What's sad is you guys feel like your as invested in this game as we are, you're not. Not even close. Though, in your case Thumb Green, there'd be an exception. You've been around quite a while, lol. It's still not elitist to say any of this - that's some insane bullshit to even think so. They might have wanted to call it an MMO/FPS/what have you but it's been a lobby shooter since the beginning. Casuals didn't make it that way, CCP did. They made this game to primarily attract casuals so they could sell AUR to the majority of casuals that would get their asses handed to them by the handful of hardcore players. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 400	Posted - 2014.10.02 17:41:00 - [53] - Quote Nope never. Admittedly I am a bit curious at the idea of playing with a team that actually plays as a team, but that curiosity is cancelled by the prospects of nothing but cloaked scouts and heavies. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
SoTa Senpai Ametat Security Amarr Empire 242	Posted - 2014.10.02 17:51:00 - [54] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: SoTa Senpai wrote: This is an MMOFPSRTSRPG. In what part of that does it say LOBBY SHOOTER? Because that is what casuals are trying to do to this game, turn it into nothing more then that. And the QQing is probably what took CCP off there original course for content and concentrated on core mechanics that were almost PERFECT a ***** YEAR ago. I know you guys feel empowered because your many, and those of us who can handle PC are few, but accept it. This was the vision CCP themselves had. The Lobby shooter aspect was all you guys were getting to enjoy the mechanics, while the real game happened in Planetary Conquest and Faction Warfare. That is not elitism, that is an amazing game. The Lobby Shooter your fighting for the causal for is what will kill this game ultimately because there will be no appeal to play outside what can be done in match - but Dust is meant to be so much more, so much harder, and you guys just keep crying to dumb it down. Now PC is broken beyond belief and CCP can't put enough attention on it because the majority of our players are now casuals cause all the PC players quit out of rage of fanfest. So all there attention is on the immediate problems of the so called 'community' as is usually there focus. Which is fine, NPE need such work PC can take a back seat easily, but denying what this game is about, that is something I'll troll you for. What's sad is you guys feel like your as invested in this game as we are, you're not. Not even close. Though, in your case Thumb Green, there'd be an exception. You've been around quite a while, lol. It's still not elitist to say any of this - that's some insane bullshit to even think so. They might have wanted to call it an MMO/FPS/what have you but it's been a lobby shooter since the beginning. Casuals didn't make it that way, CCP did. They made this game to primarily attract casuals so they could sell AUR to the majority of casuals that would get their asses handed to them by the handful of hardcore players. Indeed. :( But it wasn't meant to stay this way - the lobby shooter was just data mining for CCP. Skrim 1.0 is what was supposed to ultimately replace your lobby shooter experience, or at least give you an option outside of PC mode to do something other then lobby shooter. But the content never came, and it isn't the PC players fault. When PC players cry - it's always about FOTM breaking the game to the point that doing anything else is silly. When casuals cry - it's about every, damn, not, broken, thing. And that's the current state of things - no PC players pinpointing weapons abuses in matches where players are trying there hardest to get that win vs the matches where half your team could be AFK, but likely only 2 will be. Whose experience with that gear/weapon will you trust most? The Pub or the PC player? I'm against balancing this game in Pubs. I always have been, even before PC was out, I used to demand CCP would convince more corps to Corp Battle to get there data, because Pubs have too many variables to get any concrete data from - where a competitive match will be more focused. Too many rich people just ***** around, and weapons like ScR and ScP highlight skill over stats, so how are you mining data for it to balance? I fight for the casuals when it comes down to it - as that's where we all start out. We aren't just born hardcore - we find a love and stick with it and become hardcore.
SoTa Senpai Ametat Security Amarr Empire 242	Posted - 2014.10.02 17:53:00 - [55] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: Nope never. Admittedly I am a bit curious at the idea of playing with a team that actually plays as a team, but that curiosity is cancelled by the prospects of nothing but cloaked scouts and heavies. Find a corp willing to just play there favorite suits in the match - PC has become much less serious then it was, and many of the top corps give out land for free just so small corps can enjoy organized matches. This bs about PC players being elitist is just GD guys getting trolled by certain people too much.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 758	Posted - 2014.10.02 19:10:00 - [56] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: However thinking about it, you are right in the sense that a proper battle commander could use the tactical overlay map (Much like a commander would in the Battlefield series of games) and coordinate strategy and team position etc.... I've just never seen that be done myself (are there PC teams that are that deep?) If you're not doing that then you are doing it wrong.
hfderrtgvcd 604	Posted - 2014.10.02 19:16:00 - [57] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: Nope never. Admittedly I am a bit curious at the idea of playing with a team that actually plays as a team, but that curiosity is cancelled by the prospects of nothing but cloaked scouts and heavies. logis are very common in pc. assaults to a lesser degree but there are still at least 3-4 You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 72	Posted - 2014.10.02 19:19:00 - [58] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: Nope never. Admittedly I am a bit curious at the idea of playing with a team that actually plays as a team, but that curiosity is cancelled by the prospects of nothing but cloaked scouts and heavies. logis are very common in pc. assaults to a lesser degree but there are still at least 3-4 Logis are fine. It's 3 logis repping a proto heavy with 1000+ armor which pisses most people off. Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 758	Posted - 2014.10.02 19:26:00 - [59] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: Nope never. Admittedly I am a bit curious at the idea of playing with a team that actually plays as a team, but that curiosity is cancelled by the prospects of nothing but cloaked scouts and heavies. logis are very common in pc. assaults to a lesser degree but there are still at least 3-4 Logis are fine. It's 3 logis repping a proto heavy with 1000+ armor which pisses most people off. I've only seen one corp do this and that's Glory. Needless to say that one heavy may have stayed alive longer than usual but the rest of the team was in the redline getting steamrolled. If you commit that many resources to keeping a single guy alive then you will lose.
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1002	Posted - 2014.10.02 19:39:00 - [60] - Quote PC is the only part of Dust I enjoy anymore. Pubs are so easy now I could play them with my feet. However, I am tired of cargo hubs and the same maps over and over. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.

Aria Gomes The dyst0pian Corporation 545	Posted - 2014.10.02 19:41:00 - [61] - Quote My first PC ever was against Ill Omens. We were lvl 298 on the LB and them at 21 I believe. Yeah...we never made it out the red line. Just all chaos. I've been in other PCs too but I just suck at PC. I wasn't proto yet andn ot as skilled in my scout stuff all the way. I'd probably do better now, but idc I'm a pub player anyways.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17969	Posted - 2014.10.02 20:20:00 - [62] - Quote Played it. Not worth the hassle. Sometimes you get a good team match (the only place in DUST you can get one) but only after a ridiculous amount of pain trying to set it up. The rewards aren't really worth bothering with either. I've lived off the Uprising refunds in full proto for a year and a half and I'm still nowhere near running out of ISK. The forums have ruined me.
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 72	Posted - 2014.10.02 20:22:00 - [63] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Played it. Not worth the hassle. Sometimes you get a good team match (the only place in DUST you can get one) but only after a ridiculous amount of pain trying to set it up. The rewards aren't really worth bothering with either. I've lived off the Uprising refunds in full proto for a year and a half and I'm still nowhere near running out of ISK. Well... in that case... ahem May I have some ISK? Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4852	Posted - 2014.10.02 20:29:00 - [64] - Quote I've played at least a 100 PC battles since it's inception. I love it but most of the time the battles aren't convenient for me. The logistics of PC are crappy. Launch attack, wait 24-48 hours. Start squading up 30 minutes prior + 10 minutes in the warbarge. Then you usually talk a bit after the match. No team deploy UI pretty much guarantees that you aren't running more than 2 matches at once. The timers are the shittiest part. That much time between battles allows for too much coordination for really strong teams to dominate. In the prime of PC there were 3-5 teams that destroyed the vast majority of the rest (probably less than 100 players dominated). Level 4 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 759	Posted - 2014.10.02 20:41:00 - [65] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I've played at least a 100 PC battles since it's inception. I love it but most of the time the battles aren't convenient for me. The logistics of PC are crappy. Launch attack, wait 24-48 hours. Start squading up 30 minutes prior + 10 minutes in the warbarge. Then you usually talk a bit after the match. No team deploy UI pretty much guarantees that you aren't running more than 2 matches at once. The timers are the shittiest part. That much time between battles allows for too much coordination for really strong teams to dominate. In the prime of PC there were 3-5 teams that destroyed the vast majority of the rest (probably less than 100 players dominated). Couldn't agree more on the timer issue. What could have been with instant defenses.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17970	Posted - 2014.10.02 20:44:00 - [66] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Played it. Not worth the hassle. Sometimes you get a good team match (the only place in DUST you can get one) but only after a ridiculous amount of pain trying to set it up. The rewards aren't really worth bothering with either. I've lived off the Uprising refunds in full proto for a year and a half and I'm still nowhere near running out of ISK. Well... in that case... ahem May I have some ISK? If I remember when I next get online (I haven't a clue when that'll be though) I might be inclined to drop you a dozen mil or so. vOv The forums have ruined me.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1608	Posted - 2014.10.02 21:13:00 - [67] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: My first PC ever was against Ill Omens. We were lvl 298 on the LB and them at 21 I believe. Yeah...we never made it out the red line. Just all chaos. I've been in other PCs too but I just suck at PC. I wasn't proto yet andn ot as skilled in my scout stuff all the way. I'd probably do better now, but idc I'm a pub player anyways. Going by my recollection of your skills, Aria, I think you're selling yourself short. Your scout skills would fare quite well in most PC battles.
benandjerrys NECROM0NGERS 18	Posted - 2014.10.02 21:28:00 - [68] - Quote If I had the time and a normal job in real life I'd still pc. Things got unmanageable though trying to support the "a" team. I dont like disappointing people that I have a mutual trust, respect and friendship with video game or not. No hate or discontent with the guys I left (you know who you are) (but you gotta admit guys, when me and pud are in the same squad we are batman and robin) but yea... Factions are the underutilized middle ground I see it more and more everyday like that.
Commander Noctus Gallente Loyalist 86	Posted - 2014.10.02 21:38:00 - [69] - Quote I've played only about a dozen PC matches personally, with only 2 of them being really competitive. One of my siblings is a very proficient PC player though (pre-Delta ADS pilot) so I know how those things go. Very loud, lots of orders being barked at, yet they all still have a lot of fun and they talk around at the end of it. Still, the amount of isk he would lose per match was about the same you would get, so I never really saw the appeal outside of the whole "challenge" thing. Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 899	Posted - 2014.10.02 21:56:00 - [70] - Quote I've played dozens, if not hundreds of PCs, some with really good squads, and some with really bad squads. What I enjoy: The team play. Nowhere else can you get the level of coordination that you get in PC. Strong competition. Most of the time, you know you're in for a real fight. The isk. When you win.. What I dont enjoy: The timers. 24 hours is a long time to wait for a battle and sometimes the constant 24 hour defenses will just make you rage if you have a lot of districts. The inviability of some playstyles. PC has always been a FotM game, even more so now. I can go through each era of PC and tell you exactly what EVERYONE playing PC used during that time. If you cant fill the niche, you cant compete. All in all, in enjoy both PC and pubs, each in its own way. Corp battles were by far the most fun I have seen in this game. Please bring them back CCP I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7707	Posted - 2014.10.02 21:59:00 - [71] - Quote I legitimately enjoy PC although it highlights some mechanics in the game that are flawed like Uplink spam and inaccessible areas of a map that should have a ladder connected to it but for the most part I love it. I enjoy working as a team and communication so PC is definitely for me second would be Faction Warfare and third would be pubs, because you can't trust blueberries to come out of the redline. Something's wrong when you regret Things that haven't happened yet
abdullah muzaffar G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 44	Posted - 2014.10.02 22:04:00 - [72] - Quote BlazeXYZ wrote: Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I had my first PC battle with gods earlier this week. It was actually easy because we were versing militia lol. You get rewarded greatly like 2 mil isk and tons of salvage. :D so much fun
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 72	Posted - 2014.10.02 22:22:00 - [73] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Mex-0 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Played it. Not worth the hassle. Sometimes you get a good team match (the only place in DUST you can get one) but only after a ridiculous amount of pain trying to set it up. The rewards aren't really worth bothering with either. I've lived off the Uprising refunds in full proto for a year and a half and I'm still nowhere near running out of ISK. Well... in that case... ahem May I have some ISK? If I remember when I next get online (I haven't a clue when that'll be though) I might be inclined to drop you a dozen mil or so. vOv Thank you o humble master. Bows down Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 367	Posted - 2014.10.02 22:23:00 - [74] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: **** What he said lmao! It could be better, but lacks real depth?! Dust is a game built around depth in everything, but it seems like the development working on PC quit and hasn't been replaced yet?! First they had the monetary gain which allowed early players to get miles ahead of everyone else so isk creates a huge gap. New corps will only loose isk no matter how good they are because they would just be out isk'd so to speak. They couldn't keep up financially?! The early players have been pub stomping on all that free isk for over a year?! Second the star map needs to open up! It just does seriously?! Let the chips fall where they may for crying out loud. I promise if they opened up half of those planets small corps would poor in to battle it our while large corps would be spread too thin to attack them all. Third, and most important is gain! What do players gain from owning districts? The monetary gain is gone for obvious reasons, but what if the production facilities built vehicle parts? Tank hulls, dropship hulls, eve ship hulls, different types of engines and turbines, etc. What if there were different types of production facilities? Some built weapons while others built vehicles? Dropsuits being built? This kind of thing would be a great incentive for corps to go after, and help with development of the trade market! Fourth would be district upgrades! The great "top 16" may be able to beat your guys to shreds, but a smaller corp could spend their hard earned isk on upgrading their district defenses! Turret upgrades and the option to choose where they are placed! Building their own MCC's to withstand attacks longer, and while this would cost tons of isk corps who were focused could benefit. They could strengthen null cannons to deal different types of damage. I mean why do they just have to fall victim to the massive SP levels of vets when if given the tools they could out think their opponents? There could be endless trade between corp goods and services gathered by districts. You could sell dropsuits to other corps, tank hulls, etc. Smart corp could buy thousands of militia suits to burn through on an isk grind. I mean at this point just let freedom ring! "Anybody order chaos?"
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1863	Posted - 2014.10.02 22:25:00 - [75] - Quote PC feels worthless. Other than a high payout, what's the point of it? It barely makes money. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Aria Gomes The dyst0pian Corporation 546	Posted - 2014.10.02 23:12:00 - [76] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: My first PC ever was against Ill Omens. We were lvl 298 on the LB and them at 21 I believe. Yeah...we never made it out the red line. Just all chaos. I've been in other PCs too but I just suck at PC. I wasn't proto yet andn ot as skilled in my scout stuff all the way. I'd probably do better now, but idc I'm a pub player anyways. Going by my recollection of your skills, Aria, I think you're selling yourself short. Your scout skills would fare quite well in most PC battles -- and the playing field is much more even than the early days. Hey thanks! Maybe I'll try and ring sometime. Are Min Scouts viable in PC? Like with knifes and stuff. Or like a sidearm fit? I don't mind running a Combat Rifle I just play better with my sidearms since I got prof 3 in most of them (Bolt, SMG, Scrambler, Nova Knives to 5)
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 368	Posted - 2014.10.02 23:22:00 - [77] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: I've played about a dozen. In some ways they are easier for me because I usually run solo and having a team working with you makes it easier. It is faster and furiouser but kind of stupid unless you are a shotgun scout or heavy, even then I don't really enjoy it. A lot of the time it is taking the things that are most broken in the game and spamming them and calling it good playing. I do enjoy the fact that teamwork, strategy and playing together pays off. Exactly! "Anybody order chaos?"
Holliticus Randle D3ATH CARD 2	Posted - 2014.10.02 23:41:00 - [78] - Quote I really don't know what to say about PC at this point because everything that is wrong with it keeps the things that are right with it from being enjoyed. CEO /Diplomat /D3ATH CARD Logistics Expert 46 Million Plus SP And Climbing. Squad With Honor. Squad With Integrity.
Yeeeuuuupppp Vengeance Unbound 626	Posted - 2014.10.02 23:44:00 - [79] - Quote Pc is taken too seriously. Waking up at the butt crack of dawn to defend a district. Worrying about keeping friendship with some Corps so they won't attack you. Most even, have to worry about OH ** heads taking their district just because they can. (Uptown456). War is fun. Organized war is fun. Putting your social life on hold for virtual war is not. "Removed for hurting my feelings" - CCP PSN: GMANCASH** Rage Proficiency V
Yeeeuuuupppp Vengeance Unbound 626	Posted - 2014.10.02 23:49:00 - [80] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Played it. Not worth the hassle. Sometimes you get a good team match (the only place in DUST you can get one) but only after a ridiculous amount of pain trying to set it up. The rewards aren't really worth bothering with either. I've lived off the Uprising refunds in full proto for a year and a half and I'm still nowhere near running out of ISK. In that case, mind sparing some isk for this peasant? Admittedly, I'm almost out :/. "Removed for hurting my feelings" - CCP PSN: GMANCASH Rage Proficiency V

Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 368	Posted - 2014.10.03 00:59:00 - [81] - Quote Enter CCP Rattati!!! Someone light the bat signal! The community has spoken, and even the guys that play PC admits that it's lacking?! Not lacking in the competition department because there's plenty of that.... or is there? I think we should start by finding out how a percentage of how many in the community actually play? For instance, to the PC players. When is the last time you saw someone in PC that you didn't already know? There are plenty of great corps that want nothing to do with PC. Why is that? "Anybody order chaos?"
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5273	Posted - 2014.10.03 01:05:00 - [82] - Quote Played many PC's for many corps still do a few now and then when called up. Oh wait i apparently own districts as of now. but the fact that i am the only dust member in my corp and i own 2 districts can tell you there might be something wrong with PC. But there have been months where i played more PC than actual pubs and still capped out every week. The fights are pretty fun and a nice change up. But behind the sense operations and mechanics of PC is complete sh*t and i would push for PC to get taken down and replaced if i could. Such an ISK farm right now and always has been, it's just not right. EVE 21 Day Trial
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 478	Posted - 2014.10.03 04:25:00 - [83] - Quote Dust User wrote: Most these kids lost that back when they were handed participation trophies in tee-ball. Going through this thread, I was going to make the exactly same analogy. "Waaah! i'm afraid of losing." I only really play this game for PC now. But even then, this game is still has complete garbage mechanics and gamemodes. The only thing good about this game is the relatively high TTK and the relatively low aim-assist. The not Logic Bomb! lollaserfocusedonPS3 Got to get those pub stomps over hours yo!
benandjerrys NECROM0NGERS 20	Posted - 2014.10.06 22:24:00 - [84] - Quote I would only buy in to pc... If it actually affected something in eve I'd do it more and have Id have the competent pilots to back it up. OB support doesnt really get the attention of the top 500 in eve and believe me I have already asked. Isk vs risk for those brave dudes up above that I once was and will be again does not match up and anyone supporting us probably has divided interests more focused to dust rather than isk gain. Isk war will always be more relevant than your k/d war or your wp war for eve and that is why Legion will eventually make it needed, and the eve players will flock in on the green side and things will finally get interesting. Till then Ill advocate fw q sync staged fights as they will be faster and the LP is nicer than your salvage I already have lots of that is mostly 2 to 5 fits of stuff I actually use.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 3849	Posted - 2014.10.06 23:32:00 - [85] - Quote PC is a lot more organized then pubs and more fun because of the challange but I'd prefer to have the old corp battle system so we don't have to spend millions of isk to launch "fun" "War determines not who is right, but who is left." Closed Beta Vet Scout before it was cool
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1627	Posted - 2014.10.07 00:15:00 - [86] - Quote Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? My thoughts on pc my ultimate thoughts on it, to this day. Closed beta vet. Call me TrolLuna or Trollmare Moon, Reference link
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 484	Posted - 2014.10.07 01:57:00 - [87] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? [url]http://i.imgur.com/UaVDEY5.jpg[/url] I beat a Giantdad in a dex build last week. I was quite proud of myself. The not Logic Bomb! lollaserfocusedonPS3 Got to get those pub stomps over hours yo!
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1628	Posted - 2014.10.07 02:05:00 - [88] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? [url]http://i.imgur.com/UaVDEY5.jpg[/url] I beat a Giantdad in a dex build last week. I was quite proud of myself. Now it's giantchild, more stamina regen, like 2 years ago. Closed beta vet. Call me TrolLuna or Trollmare Moon, Reference link
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2465	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:02:00 - [89] - Quote Yes-Its Logi/Heavy spam in the city all with boundless HMG's, ADSes overwatch points to make sure they don't get hacked, tanks are surprisingly useful, assaults and scouts rule the outside points. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 484	Posted - 2014.10.07 03:45:00 - [90] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Atiim wrote: How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it? If you haven't what do you think PC is like? [url]http://i.imgur.com/UaVDEY5.jpg[/url] I beat a Giantdad in a dex build last week. I was quite proud of myself. Now it's giantchild, more stamina regen, like 2 years ago. They'll have to catch me first! The not Logic Bomb! lollaserfocusedonPS3 Got to get those pub stomps over hours yo!

Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3350	Posted - 2014.10.07 04:14:00 - [91] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: No place for assault suits. Assaults are actually really effective on Bridge map and a few select areas like "B" on 3in 2out cargo but out side of that they can barely compete against clusters of heavies and constantly getting RE spammed and shotgunned. Saw kalante get 25+ kills in a min assault in the city cargo hub. I doubt that. Not saying he's bad he could have totally got 25+ kills but if he used an assault suit it would have been gallente. Tanker/Logi/Assault
Atiim 12811	Posted - 2014.10.07 11:04:00 - [92] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: No place for assault suits. Assaults are actually really effective on Bridge map and a few select areas like "B" on 3in 2out cargo but out side of that they can barely compete against clusters of heavies and constantly getting RE spammed and shotgunned. Saw kalante get 25+ kills in a min assault in the city cargo hub. I doubt that. Not saying he's bad he could have totally got 25+ kills but if he used an assault suit it would have been gallente. I heard him talking about how he only uses MinAssaults now because the others are too slow to compete with Scouts and can't run away from anything. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 8	Posted - 2014.10.07 17:23:00 - [93] - Quote Personally not a fan of PC. Team chat being ****** leaves everyone scrambling around in a chat channel which is a pain in the ass of its own. Spending 20-30 minutes to get squads together then sit in the barge for 10 minutes is stupid. Unless you are in one of the huge corps the best you can hope for is 1-2 battles per day if not per week. All in all I love the high level of competition but the mechanics make it more trouble than it is worth which is why I occasionally stumble in as a ringer but would never make a serious attempt at PC for my own corp.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2534	Posted - 2014.10.07 17:25:00 - [94] - Quote Organization makes it fun, but seeing 90% of what's used being identical makes me keep playing pub matches just for the odd variety, and so I can keep using my joke fits. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire


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