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Aria Gomes
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:41:00 -
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My first PC ever was against Ill Omens. We were lvl 298 on the LB and them at 21 I believe. Yeah...we never made it out the red line. Just all chaos. I've been in other PCs too but I just suck at PC. I wasn't proto yet andn ot as skilled in my scout stuff all the way. I'd probably do better now, but idc I'm a pub player anyways.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
17969
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:20:00 -
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Played it.
Not worth the hassle. Sometimes you get a good team match (the only place in DUST you can get one) but only after a ridiculous amount of pain trying to set it up.
The rewards aren't really worth bothering with either. I've lived off the Uprising refunds in full proto for a year and a half and I'm still nowhere near running out of ISK.
The forums have ruined me.
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Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
72
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:22:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Played it.
Not worth the hassle. Sometimes you get a good team match (the only place in DUST you can get one) but only after a ridiculous amount of pain trying to set it up.
The rewards aren't really worth bothering with either. I've lived off the Uprising refunds in full proto for a year and a half and I'm still nowhere near running out of ISK.
Well... in that case... *ahem* May I have some ISK?
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4852
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:29:00 -
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I've played at least a 100 PC battles since it's inception. I love it but most of the time the battles aren't convenient for me.
The logistics of PC are crappy. Launch attack, wait 24-48 hours. Start squading up 30 minutes prior + 10 minutes in the warbarge. Then you usually talk a bit after the match.
No team deploy UI pretty much guarantees that you aren't running more than 2 matches at once.
The timers are the shittiest part. That much time between battles allows for too much coordination for really strong teams to dominate. In the prime of PC there were 3-5 teams that destroyed the vast majority of the rest (probably less than 100 players dominated).
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
759
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I've played at least a 100 PC battles since it's inception. I love it but most of the time the battles aren't convenient for me.
The logistics of PC are crappy. Launch attack, wait 24-48 hours. Start squading up 30 minutes prior + 10 minutes in the warbarge. Then you usually talk a bit after the match.
No team deploy UI pretty much guarantees that you aren't running more than 2 matches at once.
The timers are the shittiest part. That much time between battles allows for too much coordination for really strong teams to dominate. In the prime of PC there were 3-5 teams that destroyed the vast majority of the rest (probably less than 100 players dominated).
Couldn't agree more on the timer issue. What could have been with instant defenses.  |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
17970
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:44:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Played it.
Not worth the hassle. Sometimes you get a good team match (the only place in DUST you can get one) but only after a ridiculous amount of pain trying to set it up.
The rewards aren't really worth bothering with either. I've lived off the Uprising refunds in full proto for a year and a half and I'm still nowhere near running out of ISK. Well... in that case... *ahem* May I have some ISK?
If I remember when I next get online (I haven't a clue when that'll be though) I might be inclined to drop you a dozen mil or so. vOv
The forums have ruined me.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1608
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:13:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:My first PC ever was against Ill Omens. We were lvl 298 on the LB and them at 21 I believe. Yeah...we never made it out the red line. Just all chaos. I've been in other PCs too but I just suck at PC. I wasn't proto yet andn ot as skilled in my scout stuff all the way. I'd probably do better now, but idc I'm a pub player anyways.
Going by my recollection of your skills, Aria, I think you're selling yourself short. Your scout skills would fare quite well in most PC battles. |
benandjerrys
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:28:00 -
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If I had the time and a normal job in real life I'd still pc. Things got unmanageable though trying to support the "a" team. I dont like disappointing people that I have a mutual trust, respect and friendship with video game or not. No hate or discontent with the guys I left (you know who you are) (but you gotta admit guys, when me and pud are in the same squad we are batman and robin ) but yea... Factions are the underutilized middle ground I see it more and more everyday like that. |
Commander Noctus
Gallente Loyalist
86
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:38:00 -
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I've played only about a dozen PC matches personally, with only 2 of them being really competitive. One of my siblings is a very proficient PC player though (pre-Delta ADS pilot) so I know how those things go. Very loud, lots of orders being barked at, yet they all still have a lot of fun and they talk around at the end of it. Still, the amount of isk he would lose per match was about the same you would get, so I never really saw the appeal outside of the whole "challenge" thing.
Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
899
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:56:00 -
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I've played dozens, if not hundreds of PCs, some with really good squads, and some with really bad squads.
What I enjoy:
The team play. Nowhere else can you get the level of coordination that you get in PC.
Strong competition. Most of the time, you know you're in for a real fight.
The isk. When you win..
What I dont enjoy:
The timers. 24 hours is a long time to wait for a battle and sometimes the constant 24 hour defenses will just make you rage if you have a lot of districts.
The inviability of some playstyles. PC has always been a FotM game, even more so now. I can go through each era of PC and tell you exactly what EVERYONE playing PC used during that time. If you cant fill the niche, you cant compete.
All in all, in enjoy both PC and pubs, each in its own way. Corp battles were by far the most fun I have seen in this game. Please bring them back CCP
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7707
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:59:00 -
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I legitimately enjoy PC although it highlights some mechanics in the game that are flawed like Uplink spam and inaccessible areas of a map that should have a ladder connected to it but for the most part I love it.
I enjoy working as a team and communication so PC is definitely for me second would be Faction Warfare and third would be pubs, because you can't trust blueberries to come out of the redline.
Something's wrong when you regret
Things that haven't happened yet
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abdullah muzaffar
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
44
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Posted - 2014.10.02 22:04:00 -
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BlazeXYZ wrote:Atiim wrote:How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it?
If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I had my first PC battle with gods earlier this week. It was actually easy because we were versing militia lol. You get rewarded greatly like 2 mil isk and tons of salvage.
:D so much fun |
Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
72
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Posted - 2014.10.02 22:22:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Mex-0 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Played it.
Not worth the hassle. Sometimes you get a good team match (the only place in DUST you can get one) but only after a ridiculous amount of pain trying to set it up.
The rewards aren't really worth bothering with either. I've lived off the Uprising refunds in full proto for a year and a half and I'm still nowhere near running out of ISK. Well... in that case... *ahem* May I have some ISK? If I remember when I next get online (I haven't a clue when that'll be though) I might be inclined to drop you a dozen mil or so. vOv
Thank you o humble master. *Bows down*
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
367
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Posted - 2014.10.02 22:23:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:****
What he said lmao!
It could be better, but lacks real depth?! Dust is a game built around depth in everything, but it seems like the development working on PC quit and hasn't been replaced yet?!
First they had the monetary gain which allowed early players to get miles ahead of everyone else so isk creates a huge gap. New corps will only loose isk no matter how good they are because they would just be out isk'd so to speak. They couldn't keep up financially?! The early players have been pub stomping on all that free isk for over a year?!
Second the star map needs to open up! It just does seriously?! Let the chips fall where they may for crying out loud. I promise if they opened up half of those planets small corps would poor in to battle it our while large corps would be spread too thin to attack them all.
Third, and most important is gain! What do players gain from owning districts? The monetary gain is gone for obvious reasons, but what if the production facilities built vehicle parts? Tank hulls, dropship hulls, eve ship hulls, different types of engines and turbines, etc. What if there were different types of production facilities? Some built weapons while others built vehicles? Dropsuits being built? This kind of thing would be a great incentive for corps to go after, and help with development of the trade market!
Fourth would be district upgrades! The great "top 16" may be able to beat your guys to shreds, but a smaller corp could spend their hard earned isk on upgrading their district defenses! Turret upgrades and the option to choose where they are placed! Building their own MCC's to withstand attacks longer, and while this would cost tons of isk corps who were focused could benefit. They could strengthen null cannons to deal different types of damage. I mean why do they just have to fall victim to the massive SP levels of vets when if given the tools they could out think their opponents?
There could be endless trade between corp goods and services gathered by districts. You could sell dropsuits to other corps, tank hulls, etc. Smart corp could buy thousands of militia suits to burn through on an isk grind.
I mean at this point just let freedom ring!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1863
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Posted - 2014.10.02 22:25:00 -
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PC feels worthless. Other than a high payout, what's the point of it? It barely makes money.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Aria Gomes
The dyst0pian Corporation
546
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:12:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:My first PC ever was against Ill Omens. We were lvl 298 on the LB and them at 21 I believe. Yeah...we never made it out the red line. Just all chaos. I've been in other PCs too but I just suck at PC. I wasn't proto yet andn ot as skilled in my scout stuff all the way. I'd probably do better now, but idc I'm a pub player anyways. Going by my recollection of your skills, Aria, I think you're selling yourself short. Your scout skills would fare quite well in most PC battles -- and the playing field is much more even than the early days.
Hey thanks! Maybe I'll try and ring sometime. Are Min Scouts viable in PC? Like with knifes and stuff. Or like a sidearm fit? I don't mind running a Combat Rifle I just play better with my sidearms since I got prof 3 in most of them (Bolt, SMG, Scrambler, Nova Knives to 5)
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
368
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:22:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I've played about a dozen. In some ways they are easier for me because I usually run solo and having a team working with you makes it easier. It is faster and furiouser but kind of stupid unless you are a shotgun scout or heavy, even then I don't really enjoy it. A lot of the time it is taking the things that are most broken in the game and spamming them and calling it good playing.
I do enjoy the fact that teamwork, strategy and playing together pays off.
Exactly!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Holliticus Randle
D3ATH CARD
2
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:41:00 -
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I really don't know what to say about PC at this point because everything that is wrong with it keeps the things that are right with it from being enjoyed.
CEO /Diplomat /D3ATH CARD
Logistics Expert 46 Million Plus SP And Climbing.
Squad With Honor. Squad With Integrity.
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Vengeance Unbound
626
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:44:00 -
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Pc is taken too seriously. Waking up at the butt crack of dawn to defend a district. Worrying about keeping friendship with some Corps so they won't attack you. Most even, have to worry about OH **** heads taking their district just because they can. (Uptown456).
War is fun. Organized war is fun. Putting your social life on hold for virtual war is not.
"Removed for hurting my feelings" - CCP
PSN: GMANCASH
Rage Proficiency V
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Vengeance Unbound
626
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:49:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Played it.
Not worth the hassle. Sometimes you get a good team match (the only place in DUST you can get one) but only after a ridiculous amount of pain trying to set it up.
The rewards aren't really worth bothering with either. I've lived off the Uprising refunds in full proto for a year and a half and I'm still nowhere near running out of ISK.
In that case, mind sparing some isk for this peasant? Admittedly, I'm almost out :/.
"Removed for hurting my feelings" - CCP
PSN: GMANCASH
Rage Proficiency V
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
368
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:59:00 -
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Enter CCP Rattati!!! Someone light the bat signal! The community has spoken, and even the guys that play PC admits that it's lacking?! Not lacking in the competition department because there's plenty of that.... or is there? I think we should start by finding out how a percentage of how many in the community actually play? For instance, to the PC players. When is the last time you saw someone in PC that you didn't already know?
There are plenty of great corps that want nothing to do with PC. Why is that?
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
5273
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Posted - 2014.10.03 01:05:00 -
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Played many PC's for many corps still do a few now and then when called up. Oh wait i apparently own districts as of now. but the fact that i am the only dust member in my corp and i own 2 districts can tell you there might be something wrong with PC.
But there have been months where i played more PC than actual pubs and still capped out every week. The fights are pretty fun and a nice change up. But behind the sense operations and mechanics of PC is complete sh*t and i would push for PC to get taken down and replaced if i could. Such an ISK farm right now and always has been, it's just not right.
EVE 21 Day Trial
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
478
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Posted - 2014.10.03 04:25:00 -
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Dust User wrote:
Most these kids lost that back when they were handed participation trophies in tee-ball.
Going through this thread, I was going to make the exactly same analogy. "Waaah! i'm afraid of losing."
I only really play this game for PC now. But even then, this game is still has complete garbage mechanics and gamemodes. The only thing good about this game is the relatively high TTK and the relatively low aim-assist.
The not Logic Bomb!
lollaserfocusedonPS3
Got to get those pub stomps over hours yo!
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benandjerrys
NECROM0NGERS
20
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Posted - 2014.10.06 22:24:00 -
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I would only buy in to pc... If it actually affected something in eve I'd do it more and have Id have the competent pilots to back it up. OB support doesnt really get the attention of the top 500 in eve and believe me I have already asked. Isk vs risk for those brave dudes up above that I once was and will be again does not match up and anyone supporting us probably has divided interests more focused to dust rather than isk gain. Isk war will always be more relevant than your k/d war or your wp war for eve and that is why Legion will eventually make it needed, and the eve players will flock in on the green side and things will finally get interesting. Till then Ill advocate fw q sync staged fights as they will be faster and the LP is nicer than your salvage I already have lots of that is mostly 2 to 5 fits of stuff I actually use. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
3849
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Posted - 2014.10.06 23:32:00 -
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PC is a lot more organized then pubs and more fun because of the challange but I'd prefer to have the old corp battle system so we don't have to spend millions of isk to launch "fun"
"War determines not who is right, but who is left."
Closed Beta Vet
Scout before it was cool
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1627
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Posted - 2014.10.07 00:15:00 -
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Atiim wrote:How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it?
If you haven't what do you think PC is like?
My thoughts on pc
my ultimate thoughts on it, to this day.
Closed beta vet.
Call me TrolLuna or Trollmare Moon, Reference link
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
484
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Posted - 2014.10.07 01:57:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it?
If you haven't what do you think PC is like? [url]http://i.imgur.com/UaVDEY5.jpg[/url]
I beat a Giantdad in a dex build last week. I was quite proud of myself.
The not Logic Bomb!
lollaserfocusedonPS3
Got to get those pub stomps over hours yo!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1628
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Posted - 2014.10.07 02:05:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it?
If you haven't what do you think PC is like? [url]http://i.imgur.com/UaVDEY5.jpg[/url] I beat a Giantdad in a dex build last week. I was quite proud of myself.
Now it's giantchild, more stamina regen, like 2 years ago.
Closed beta vet.
Call me TrolLuna or Trollmare Moon, Reference link
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2465
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Posted - 2014.10.07 03:02:00 -
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Yes-Its Logi/Heavy spam in the city all with boundless HMG's, ADSes overwatch points to make sure they don't get hacked, tanks are surprisingly useful, assaults and scouts rule the outside points.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
484
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Posted - 2014.10.07 03:45:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it?
If you haven't what do you think PC is like? [url]http://i.imgur.com/UaVDEY5.jpg[/url] I beat a Giantdad in a dex build last week. I was quite proud of myself. Now it's giantchild, more stamina regen, like 2 years ago.
They'll have to catch me first!
The not Logic Bomb!
lollaserfocusedonPS3
Got to get those pub stomps over hours yo!
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