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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1189
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:16:00 -
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I've played about a dozen. In some ways they are easier for me because I usually run solo and having a team working with you makes it easier. It is faster and furiouser but kind of stupid unless you are a shotgun scout or heavy, even then I don't really enjoy it. A lot of the time it is taking the things that are most broken in the game and spamming them and calling it good playing.
I do enjoy the fact that teamwork, strategy and playing together pays off.
Because, that's why.
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hfderrtgvcd
604
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:24:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:No place for assault suits. Assaults are actually really effective on Bridge map and a few select areas like "B" on 3in 2out cargo but out side of that they can barely compete against clusters of heavies and constantly getting RE spammed and shotgunned. Saw kalante get 25+ kills in a min assault in the city cargo hub.
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
4552
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:36:00 -
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I have never played in it.
I imagine it to be one of those secret clubs that you always see people enter and gossip about, then when you finally get behind the door, its not all it is cracked up to be.
I just miss the pre LP FW.
That was perfect. Better competition than Pubs, no FF. It was a blast.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Right-wing Extremist
Nos Nothi
1455
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:38:00 -
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y678iop wrote:Atiim wrote:How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it?
If you haven't what do you think PC is like? Played, fun, lag, to much roof top. Dont like the attitudes it creates. Elitism. People who dont realize pubs are waaaaaaay more important for the health of a game than PC. Just like ANY game. This merc speaks truth.
I played 3 or 4 PC battles, wasn't impressed. Now that the ISK faucet is gone, there's really no point beyond epeen and chest beating.
The thing that annoys me with it is the elitism of "pc corps" and the PC 1337 kids shitting up every balance thread with "fuk pubs, this would be OP/UP in PC, balance the game for PC, if ur not in PC corp ur scrub ur game experience doesn't mean anything, fuk if u have fun or not kekekekekekekekekek"
It's like.. dude, stuff it. The 95% of us who aren't doing PC want a fun game.
I like nova knives and sniper rifles. If that's not "viable" in the "competitive" game, then forget the competitive game, I'll stick to my pubs where I can stab and snipe without some FC telling me what I need to do to be "useful."
Jaceon Pale-eye.
And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
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X7 lion
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2014.10.02 10:55:00 -
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Its just skirmish with people who "try hard" (not try hards specifically) but a greater isk sink & over all pointless because holding districts can run at a loss & if profit is made its not necessarily even seen by alot of the participating corp members.
Do not contribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance.
being contradictory is not the same as being offensive.
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DAAAA BEAST
BEAST EMPIRE
109
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Posted - 2014.10.02 11:40:00 -
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Yes I do play games on the PC that I have in my house ...
Sniper Hunting and Noobs Trolling are my specialities.
Dust 514 Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/DAAAABEAST
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Mike De Luca
STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME
341
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Posted - 2014.10.02 12:01:00 -
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Nope, n no desire to. From what I've heard from others it's just a laggy e-peen strokefest, which I just don't care for.
what i think of when charging fg
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1856
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Posted - 2014.10.02 12:20:00 -
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Played a fair few PC`s back in my Anonymous days. Found it had potential but was a cesspit of lag. Have played one or two PC`s more recently over the last 3 or 4 months and actually I was surprised that the lag seems to have been fixed.
Honestly there is just so little incentive for the average player to bother. I totally understand the draw for organisations and clans and stuff but its just a glorified skirmish match to the average player :S
I for one would be more drawn if there was a chance at rare or special loot, something like that that really made doing PC more than just about deciding who is best. I dont have much need for isk, I tend to use cheap stuff all the time anyway.
Yea, special loot, rare loot.... something like that might peak my interest.
(Also the fact that I am a pretty average skill player doesn't exactly help my case)
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
72
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Posted - 2014.10.02 13:19:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:No place for assault suits.
I've seen plenty of Assault gk.0s, brick tanking with complex plates and Duvolles.
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
755
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Posted - 2014.10.02 13:20:00 -
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There's a lot more to being in PC than just spamming FOTM. Silly pubsters. |
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1617
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Posted - 2014.10.02 13:28:00 -
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I played decent number of games for a month or two.
Laggy with the exact same tactics literally every game. Pubs were more fun because people would think outside of the box, not just, 'take Logi with Links and Hives to rings with Forge, have sit all game'. I mean, yea, pubs can devolve into a a who can have the highest point, but not every single game.
As I was forced to ADS for no known reason, I think I ground gamed for a total of 20 minutes in all my PCs, not including the Escrow ones where they were tied up and I got to do the whole match myself, those I played a lot on the ground.
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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benandjerrys
NECROM0NGERS
18
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Posted - 2014.10.02 14:16:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Atiim wrote:How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it?
If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I haven't played in PC for quite a while. It no longer holds interest for me. The rewards aren't great enough; my main complaint is the accessability. To me, it always felt like there was no room from smaller corps to be involved, and if they managed to do so, they were steamrolled continually day after day until people can no longer afford to participate. Keep in mind my experiences are about 8+ months ago; not sure of the current status.
Exactly why I want dust wide staged fights in faction not just this min channel or that cal channel, but its not catching on yet.
Tl; dr Shamelessly promoting FACTION FIGHT CLUB channel |
John ShepardIII
DUST University
906
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Posted - 2014.10.02 14:20:00 -
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I use assault suits all the time in PC
The True Shepard.
Helping noobs everywhere. **Lvl .9 Forum Warrior
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1601
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Posted - 2014.10.02 15:38:00 -
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I've probably played in almost as many PCs as anyone over the past year and three quarters. I've probably died more times than anyone, too. lol
To me, PC is the highest level and most enjoyable part of this game, and it's what has kept me interested in it for as long as it has.
Pubbing is loads of fun, playing with or just shooting the **** with my corpmates and alliance mates brings me enjoyment, playing with new suits/weapons is also a lot of fun. However, competing against the best teams and the best players that this game has to offer -- win or lose -- is the real appeal to me. Adapting your tactics and refining them over time and getting better in this arena gives me a real sense of accomplishment.
That's not to say that PC doesn't have it's share of problems -- lag, FoTM, the same maps over and over and over again -- but rather it's the place that you can truly test your skills and the skills of your team against the best that this game has to offer.
And I think I just died twenty more times in the city while I posted this. lol |
SoTa Senpai
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:14:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:y678iop wrote:Atiim wrote:How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it?
If you haven't what do you think PC is like? Played, fun, lag, to much roof top. Dont like the attitudes it creates. Elitism. People who dont realize pubs are waaaaaaay more important for the health of a game than PC. Just like ANY game. This merc speaks truth. I played 3 or 4 PC battles, wasn't impressed. Now that the ISK faucet is gone, there's really no point beyond epeen and chest beating. The thing that annoys me with it is the elitism of "pc corps" and the PC 1337 kids shitting up every balance thread with "fuk pubs, this would be OP/UP in PC, balance the game for PC, if ur not in PC corp ur scrub ur game experience doesn't mean anything, fuk if u have fun or not kekekekekekekekekek" It's like.. dude, stuff it. The 95% of us who aren't doing PC want a fun game. I like nova knives and sniper rifles. If that's not "viable" in the "competitive" game, then forget the competitive game, I'll stick to my pubs where I can stab and snipe without some FC telling me what I need to do to be "useful." When CCP talked of this game, it wasn't meant for the casual player. It was meant for those with ambition to fight through filth and scum and ideals to create there own lore for there merc, which would in turn, create a story the universe Dust would expand upon and grow and bring to New Eden to fleshed out how the game evolved in both mechanics and lore.
It was a wonderful sell - to us hardcore gamers, to felt like CCP was trying to make a heaven for us, a place to **** talk, smack each other around, and beat each other to a pulp while taking each others **** from one another constantly in both the matches themselves and the lands.
Casuals wouldn't be able to compete - the progression system would see to that, as being versatile on a tactically played FPS is a huge advantage that often cannot be over-come. Especially against a team set up to hit every counter or FOTM spam the game can offer. Probably the reason team deploy wasn't added in after corp battles were removed, would of been the nail to the coffin for casuals.
PC is where this game is meant to be - where this game is meant to evolve and bring interest. The lobby shooter the '95%' of you play, isn't Dust. It's just the mechanics of Dust used to better help CCP gain data to balance and fix the game.
Dust is in the land battles, where the hearts and souls of players collide to see who cares more about winning. It's cut-throat. Lethal. And not meant for the weak of heart. |
Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1593
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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:50:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:
PC is where this game is meant to be - where this game is meant to evolve and bring interest. The lobby shooter the '95%' of you play, isn't Dust. It's just the mechanics of Dust used to better help CCP gain data to balance and fix the game.
That's just some stupid elitist bullsh!t right there. It's like saying the only thing EVE is meant to be is Nullsec. Pubs are what have kept Dust alive, without them there wouldn't be enough players to justify so much as replacing the light bulb in the battle server room.
We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
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SoTa Senpai
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
239
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:08:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:SoTa Senpai wrote:
PC is where this game is meant to be - where this game is meant to evolve and bring interest. The lobby shooter the '95%' of you play, isn't Dust. It's just the mechanics of Dust used to better help CCP gain data to balance and fix the game.
That's just some stupid elitist bullsh!t right there. It's like saying the only thing EVE is meant to be is Nullsec. Pubs are what have kept Dust alive, without them there wouldn't be enough players to justify so much as replacing the light bulb in the battle server room. This is an MMOFPSRTSRPG. In what part of that does it say LOBBY SHOOTER? Because that is what casuals are trying to do to this game, turn it into nothing more then that. And the QQing is probably what took CCP off there original course for content and concentrated on core mechanics that were almost PERFECT a ******* YEAR ago.
I know you guys feel empowered because your many, and those of us who can handle PC are few, but accept it. This was the vision CCP themselves had. The Lobby shooter aspect was all you guys were getting to enjoy the mechanics, while the real game happened in Planetary Conquest and Faction Warfare.
That is not elitism, that is an amazing game. The Lobby Shooter your fighting for the causal for is what will kill this game ultimately because there will be no appeal to play outside what can be done in match - but Dust is meant to be so much more, so much harder, and you guys just keep crying to dumb it down.
Now PC is broken beyond belief and CCP can't put enough attention on it because the majority of our players are now casuals cause all the PC players quit out of rage of fanfest. So all there attention is on the immediate problems of the so called 'community' as is usually there focus. Which is fine, NPE need such work PC can take a back seat easily, but denying what this game is about, that is something I'll troll you for.
What's sad is you guys feel like your as invested in this game as we are, you're not. Not even close.
Though, in your case Thumb Green, there'd be an exception. You've been around quite a while, lol.
It's still not elitist to say any of this - that's some insane bullshit to even think so. |
Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
757
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:28:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote: What's sad is you guys feel like your as invested in this game as we are, you're not. Not even close.
This is so true. PC is a job in itself which takes dedication and a will to survive. Most these kids lost that back when they were handed participation trophies in tee-ball. |
Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
141
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:38:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:Thumb Green wrote:SoTa Senpai wrote:
PC is where this game is meant to be - where this game is meant to evolve and bring interest. The lobby shooter the '95%' of you play, isn't Dust. It's just the mechanics of Dust used to better help CCP gain data to balance and fix the game.
That's just some stupid elitist bullsh!t right there. It's like saying the only thing EVE is meant to be is Nullsec. Pubs are what have kept Dust alive, without them there wouldn't be enough players to justify so much as replacing the light bulb in the battle server room. This is an MMOFPSRTSRPG. In what part of that does it say LOBBY SHOOTER? Because that is what casuals are trying to do to this game, turn it into nothing more then that. And the QQing is probably what took CCP off there original course for content and concentrated on core mechanics that were almost PERFECT a ******* YEAR ago. I know you guys feel empowered because your many, and those of us who can handle PC are few, but accept it. This was the vision CCP themselves had. The Lobby shooter aspect was all you guys were getting to enjoy the mechanics, while the real game happened in Planetary Conquest and Faction Warfare. That is not elitism, that is an amazing game. The Lobby Shooter your fighting for the causal for is what will kill this game ultimately because there will be no appeal to play outside what can be done in match - but Dust is meant to be so much more, so much harder, and you guys just keep crying to dumb it down. Now PC is broken beyond belief and CCP can't put enough attention on it because the majority of our players are now casuals cause all the PC players quit out of rage of fanfest. So all there attention is on the immediate problems of the so called 'community' as is usually there focus. Which is fine, NPE need such work PC can take a back seat easily, but denying what this game is about, that is something I'll troll you for. What's sad is you guys feel like your as invested in this game as we are, you're not. Not even close. Though, in your case Thumb Green, there'd be an exception. You've been around quite a while, lol. It's still not elitist to say any of this - that's some insane bullshit to even think so.
It has always been nothing but a lobby shooter . CCP purposefully designed it to be a lobby shooter, genius. The definition of a lobby shooter is basically you wait in a lobby to find matches and spend a limited time in a match which will be all or most of your gaming experience, basically Dust was this for the get-go since the beta. As for PC, well it was just a partially broken gamemode that a lot of corps used to gain a bunch of isk that is hardly used for much and a place to find more harder matches, now it is a place to find harder matches. That is not a reason for most players to spend a lot of the time to get into. It is CCP's job to give bigger benefit and reason for many players to jump in and obviously they failed at that . So it is not the players fault for not giving a damn about what very little of what the population did and later it wasn't CCP's fault for focusing on something that was heavily criticized by critics and many players.
PC was/is very unpopular for the majority of the player base , you can't expect a company to focus on that , but that said company didn't do a good job from the beginning with that gamemode either. |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1858
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:38:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:[quote=Thumb Green][quote=SoTa Senpai]
This is an MMOFPSRTSRPG.
As an avid fan of RTS games for a long time, I take issue with the RTS part. However thinking about it, you are right in the sense that a proper battle commander could use the tactical overlay map (Much like a commander would in the Battlefield series of games) and coordinate strategy and team position etc....
I've just never seen that be done myself (are there PC teams that are that deep?)
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
1591
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:40:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Atiim wrote:How many of you guys have played in PC, and what are your thoughts on it?
If you haven't what do you think PC is like? I played PC once or twice I dont recall. I avoid playing PC... Why? It is laggy, it is riddled with FOTM, if you are not obliterating your enemy you lose money... a lot of money, and overall it's is very irritating. I like how competitive it is, I just hate the current tactics that make it competitive. ^This so much.
"I think not having a heart or soul in this case is an asset." - One Eyed King
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1593
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:41:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote: This is an MMOFPSRTSRPG. In what part of that does it say LOBBY SHOOTER? Because that is what casuals are trying to do to this game, turn it into nothing more then that. And the QQing is probably what took CCP off there original course for content and concentrated on core mechanics that were almost PERFECT a ******* YEAR ago.
I know you guys feel empowered because your many, and those of us who can handle PC are few, but accept it. This was the vision CCP themselves had. The Lobby shooter aspect was all you guys were getting to enjoy the mechanics, while the real game happened in Planetary Conquest and Faction Warfare.
That is not elitism, that is an amazing game. The Lobby Shooter your fighting for the causal for is what will kill this game ultimately because there will be no appeal to play outside what can be done in match - but Dust is meant to be so much more, so much harder, and you guys just keep crying to dumb it down.
Now PC is broken beyond belief and CCP can't put enough attention on it because the majority of our players are now casuals cause all the PC players quit out of rage of fanfest. So all there attention is on the immediate problems of the so called 'community' as is usually there focus. Which is fine, NPE need such work PC can take a back seat easily, but denying what this game is about, that is something I'll troll you for.
What's sad is you guys feel like your as invested in this game as we are, you're not. Not even close.
Though, in your case Thumb Green, there'd be an exception. You've been around quite a while, lol.
It's still not elitist to say any of this - that's some insane bullshit to even think so.
They might have wanted to call it an MMO/FPS/what have you but it's been a lobby shooter since the beginning. Casuals didn't make it that way, CCP did. They made this game to primarily attract casuals so they could sell AUR to the majority of casuals that would get their asses handed to them by the handful of hardcore players.
We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
400
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:41:00 -
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Nope never. Admittedly I am a bit curious at the idea of playing with a team that actually plays as a team, but that curiosity is cancelled by the prospects of nothing but cloaked scouts and heavies.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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SoTa Senpai
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
242
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:51:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:SoTa Senpai wrote: This is an MMOFPSRTSRPG. In what part of that does it say LOBBY SHOOTER? Because that is what casuals are trying to do to this game, turn it into nothing more then that. And the QQing is probably what took CCP off there original course for content and concentrated on core mechanics that were almost PERFECT a ******* YEAR ago.
I know you guys feel empowered because your many, and those of us who can handle PC are few, but accept it. This was the vision CCP themselves had. The Lobby shooter aspect was all you guys were getting to enjoy the mechanics, while the real game happened in Planetary Conquest and Faction Warfare.
That is not elitism, that is an amazing game. The Lobby Shooter your fighting for the causal for is what will kill this game ultimately because there will be no appeal to play outside what can be done in match - but Dust is meant to be so much more, so much harder, and you guys just keep crying to dumb it down.
Now PC is broken beyond belief and CCP can't put enough attention on it because the majority of our players are now casuals cause all the PC players quit out of rage of fanfest. So all there attention is on the immediate problems of the so called 'community' as is usually there focus. Which is fine, NPE need such work PC can take a back seat easily, but denying what this game is about, that is something I'll troll you for.
What's sad is you guys feel like your as invested in this game as we are, you're not. Not even close.
Though, in your case Thumb Green, there'd be an exception. You've been around quite a while, lol.
It's still not elitist to say any of this - that's some insane bullshit to even think so.
They might have wanted to call it an MMO/FPS/what have you but it's been a lobby shooter since the beginning. Casuals didn't make it that way, CCP did. They made this game to primarily attract casuals so they could sell AUR to the majority of casuals that would get their asses handed to them by the handful of hardcore players. Indeed. :(
But it wasn't meant to stay this way - the lobby shooter was just data mining for CCP. Skrim 1.0 is what was supposed to ultimately replace your lobby shooter experience, or at least give you an option outside of PC mode to do something other then lobby shooter.
But the content never came, and it isn't the PC players fault. When PC players cry - it's always about FOTM breaking the game to the point that doing anything else is silly. When casuals cry - it's about every, damn, not, broken, thing. And that's the current state of things - no PC players pinpointing weapons abuses in matches where players are trying there hardest to get that win vs the matches where half your team could be AFK, but likely only 2 will be. Whose experience with that gear/weapon will you trust most? The Pub or the PC player?
I'm against balancing this game in Pubs. I always have been, even before PC was out, I used to demand CCP would convince more corps to Corp Battle to get there data, because Pubs have too many variables to get any concrete data from - where a competitive match will be more focused. Too many rich people just ******* around, and weapons like ScR and ScP highlight skill over stats, so how are you mining data for it to balance?
I fight for the casuals when it comes down to it - as that's where we all start out. We aren't just born hardcore - we find a love and stick with it and become hardcore. |
SoTa Senpai
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
242
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:53:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:Nope never. Admittedly I am a bit curious at the idea of playing with a team that actually plays as a team, but that curiosity is cancelled by the prospects of nothing but cloaked scouts and heavies. Find a corp willing to just play there favorite suits in the match - PC has become much less serious then it was, and many of the top corps give out land for free just so small corps can enjoy organized matches.
This bs about PC players being elitist is just GD guys getting trolled by certain people too much. |
Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
758
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:10:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:However thinking about it, you are right in the sense that a proper battle commander could use the tactical overlay map (Much like a commander would in the Battlefield series of games) and coordinate strategy and team position etc....
I've just never seen that be done myself (are there PC teams that are that deep?)
If you're not doing that then you are doing it wrong. |
hfderrtgvcd
604
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:16:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:Nope never. Admittedly I am a bit curious at the idea of playing with a team that actually plays as a team, but that curiosity is cancelled by the prospects of nothing but cloaked scouts and heavies. logis are very common in pc. assaults to a lesser degree but there are still at least 3-4
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
72
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:19:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Cyzad4 wrote:Nope never. Admittedly I am a bit curious at the idea of playing with a team that actually plays as a team, but that curiosity is cancelled by the prospects of nothing but cloaked scouts and heavies. logis are very common in pc. assaults to a lesser degree but there are still at least 3-4
Logis are fine. It's 3 logis repping a proto heavy with 1000+ armor which pisses most people off.
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
758
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:26:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Cyzad4 wrote:Nope never. Admittedly I am a bit curious at the idea of playing with a team that actually plays as a team, but that curiosity is cancelled by the prospects of nothing but cloaked scouts and heavies. logis are very common in pc. assaults to a lesser degree but there are still at least 3-4 Logis are fine. It's 3 logis repping a proto heavy with 1000+ armor which pisses most people off.
I've only seen one corp do this and that's Glory. Needless to say that one heavy may have stayed alive longer than usual but the rest of the team was in the redline getting steamrolled.
If you commit that many resources to keeping a single guy alive then you will lose. |
Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
1002
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:39:00 -
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PC is the only part of Dust I enjoy anymore. Pubs are so easy now I could play them with my feet.
However, I am tired of cargo hubs and the same maps over and over.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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