DUST Search - rr is still broken

Michael Arck wrote:

Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

You have plenty of time to get away. Stubbornness gets you killed

is that some half assed way of defending a weapon everyone knows is broken

LOL yes I'm defending a weapon that is unfairly criticized because its the pub favorite. Gives me flashbacks of the AR days.

The DPS on RR is not as high. And because its a rail, in other words, because of how its fires, you can easily dodge its shots putting the user at a disadvantage. A quick juke move/strafe or duck behind cover will help.

Not trying to talk as if you don't know these things. Its just that when I hear somebody complain about the RR, it just doesn't make sense to me.

Maybe the problem comes from people being in engagements and someone pops them with a RR. I can understand that but really, what doesn't pop you while you're in engagement?

I think the RR gets picked on unfairly.

And lets face it, theres a wide variety of choice weapons that can stifle a RR user

fact of the matter is it has the strogest cqc out of all the long range rifles..running a long range rifle is supposed to limiit you to an area of effect and make pushing outside the abilities of that area difficult thats the case with lr its the case with scr its the case with tar..but not rr..rr competes with smgs..it competes with hmgs in cqc..

the damn gun is equally effective in cqc..its a problem defending it doesnt change that...if ccp looked at the stats i bet rr the long range version gets more cqc kills than lr scr and tar combined since delta...as scr just got knocked down a power lvl in cqc

now the two guns that should have the strongest cqc are the scr and tar because they have the shortest range ...lr being the longest range rifle should have the weakest cqc..which is the case and rr should have the second weakest which is not the case

You're arguing just to argue, jumping from one complaint point to the next. Anything can kill you CQC. Just like a mercenary who trained well could pop you in the face with PLC or someone blamming you with a FG up close. We don't consider those CQC viable but in the right hands they work.

Nothing against you personally but the complaints of RR are just so damn tiring. They always follow the same format.

"Range and damage is just too high! Nerf the RR"

*Logical and common sense provided to counter the argument*

"B-B-B-But what about CQC! It can kill me in CQC!"

*...uhhhhh And????*

That CQC argument is dumb. Because a mercenary has better aim, strategy and strafe plan than you doesn't mean that its grounds to nerf the RR even further into a joke weapon and that somehow it locks in CQC.

Yes, you can die to anything in CQC except for swarms if you practiced long enough...WOW

no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil

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Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 216	Posted - 2014.09.26 00:59:00 - [1] - Quote i thought ccp was going to do something about that gun covering all ranges will great efficacy .. when are you doing this ccp because im really sick of rr being the omnipotent ranged god of dust or buff the cqc of all long range rifles so the all are just fantasmally better than everything else... none of the long range rifles should be viable over things intended for cqc.. no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3615	Posted - 2014.09.26 01:02:00 - [2] - Quote Well, instead of nerfing ScR CQC, they buffed TAR CQC, so I'm guessing that instead of nerfing the RR out of it, they'll buff other rifles' CQC. CCP Logic(Loop).
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 216	Posted - 2014.09.26 01:06:00 - [3] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Well, instead of nerfing ScR CQC, they buffed TAR CQC, so I'm guessing that instead of nerfing the RR out of it, they'll buff other rifles' CQC. CCP Logic(Loop). thats cool remove the efficacy reduction and cqc falloff of the lr so it is equally viable in cqc as rr..but then why use things like ar or acr or ascr...why use anything other than a long range gun when..the long range gun is a god in cqc 2..why limit yourself..right now the rr is the best hands down all around gun its effective from cqc to lr ranges exceeding 100m its the scrub gun of dust has been ever since they made it no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Michael Arck 5772	Posted - 2014.09.26 01:38:00 - [4] - Quote You have plenty of time to get away. Stubbornness gets you killed Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 216	Posted - 2014.09.26 01:42:00 - [5] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: You have plenty of time to get away. Stubbornness gets you killed is that some half assed way of defending a weapon everyone knows is broken no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Tectonic Fusion 2240	Posted - 2014.09.26 02:14:00 - [6] - Quote The TAR is way better in CQC lol But I agree the RR is pretty good in CQC when you're still a scrub. (GIF)
Henrietta Unknown CREATURES OF THE NIGHT 313	Posted - 2014.09.26 04:35:00 - [7] - Quote Ahaha... Maiden selena MORTIMOR (Shotgun) RR "Scrub" Have fun. RR dispersion is terribad in CQC it's not even funny when the scout gets 5 seconds of free passes, despite the lead "appearing" to make contact with his head. Henrietta Reborn
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 633	Posted - 2014.09.26 05:23:00 - [8] - Quote I've been using the Sever C-1 assault with a basic RR, and it's rediculously effective. Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does, So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 882	Posted - 2014.09.26 07:05:00 - [9] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Ahaha... Maiden selena MORTIMOR (Shotgun) RR "Scrub" Have fun. RR dispersion is terribad in CQC it's not even funny when the scout gets 5 seconds of free passes, despite the lead "appearing" to make contact with his head. the sounds more of an issue of you missing him than the spread being bad, the rail rifle is a monster up close the same as it is far away Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1528	Posted - 2014.09.26 07:14:00 - [10] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: i thought ccp was going to do something about that gun covering all ranges will great efficacy .. when are you doing this ccp because im really sick of rr being the omnipotent ranged god of dust or buff the cqc of all long range rifles so the all are just fantasmally better than everything else... none of the long range rifles should be viable over things intended for cqc.. they nerfed the hipfire so WTF more do you need. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer

abdullah muzaffar G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 37	Posted - 2014.09.26 08:44:00 - [11] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: they nerfed the hipfire so WTF more do you need. lr like damage hill, but not as strong
Michael Arck 5778	Posted - 2014.09.26 15:38:00 - [12] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Michael Arck wrote: You have plenty of time to get away. Stubbornness gets you killed is that some half assed way of defending a weapon everyone knows is broken LOL yes I'm defending a weapon that is unfairly criticized because its the pub favorite. Gives me flashbacks of the AR days. The DPS on RR is not as high. And because its a rail, in other words, because of how its fires, you can easily dodge its shots putting the user at a disadvantage. A quick juke move/strafe or duck behind cover will help. Not trying to talk as if you don't know these things. Its just that when I hear somebody complain about the RR, it just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe the problem comes from people being in engagements and someone pops them with a RR. I can understand that but really, what doesn't pop you while you're in engagement? I think the RR gets picked on unfairly. And lets face it, theres a wide variety of choice weapons that can stifle a RR user Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 222	Posted - 2014.09.26 16:03:00 - [13] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Michael Arck wrote: You have plenty of time to get away. Stubbornness gets you killed is that some half assed way of defending a weapon everyone knows is broken LOL yes I'm defending a weapon that is unfairly criticized because its the pub favorite. Gives me flashbacks of the AR days. The DPS on RR is not as high. And because its a rail, in other words, because of how its fires, you can easily dodge its shots putting the user at a disadvantage. A quick juke move/strafe or duck behind cover will help. Not trying to talk as if you don't know these things. Its just that when I hear somebody complain about the RR, it just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe the problem comes from people being in engagements and someone pops them with a RR. I can understand that but really, what doesn't pop you while you're in engagement? I think the RR gets picked on unfairly. And lets face it, theres a wide variety of choice weapons that can stifle a RR user fact of the matter is it has the strogest cqc out of all the long range rifles..running a long range rifle is supposed to limiit you to an area of effect and make pushing outside the abilities of that area difficult thats the case with lr its the case with scr its the case with tar..but not rr..rr competes with smgs..it competes with hmgs in cqc.. the damn gun is equally effective in cqc..its a problem defending it doesnt change that...if ccp looked at the stats i bet rr the long range version gets more cqc kills than lr scr and tar combined since delta...as scr just got knocked down a power lvl in cqc now the two guns that should have the strongest cqc are the scr and tar because they have the shortest range ...lr being the longest range rifle should have the weakest cqc..which is the case and rr should have the second weakest which is not the case no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Atiim 12514	Posted - 2014.09.26 16:20:00 - [14] - Quote This has to be a joke. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 464	Posted - 2014.09.26 16:22:00 - [15] - Quote People just like to hate on the rail riffle. Nothing we can do but let them ***** and moan about it. Try telling them any other then what they want to hear is nonsense. All Caldari gear gets nerfed and nerfed! So sick of the haters. Don't like the rail riffle... Run a shield suit. By the time it reloads you'll be already gaining shield back and can hunt them down. Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1533	Posted - 2014.09.26 16:36:00 - [16] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Michael Arck wrote: You have plenty of time to get away. Stubbornness gets you killed is that some half assed way of defending a weapon everyone knows is broken LOL yes I'm defending a weapon that is unfairly criticized because its the pub favorite. Gives me flashbacks of the AR days. The DPS on RR is not as high. And because its a rail, in other words, because of how its fires, you can easily dodge its shots putting the user at a disadvantage. A quick juke move/strafe or duck behind cover will help. Not trying to talk as if you don't know these things. Its just that when I hear somebody complain about the RR, it just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe the problem comes from people being in engagements and someone pops them with a RR. I can understand that but really, what doesn't pop you while you're in engagement? I think the RR gets picked on unfairly. And lets face it, theres a wide variety of choice weapons that can stifle a RR user fact of the matter is it has the strogest cqc out of all the long range rifles..running a long range rifle is supposed to limiit you to an area of effect and make pushing outside the abilities of that area difficult thats the case with lr its the case with scr its the case with tar..but not rr..rr competes with smgs..it competes with hmgs in cqc.. the damn gun is equally effective in cqc..its a problem defending it doesnt change that...if ccp looked at the stats i bet rr the long range version gets more cqc kills than lr scr and tar combined since delta...as scr just got knocked down a power lvl in cqc now the two guns that should have the strongest cqc are the scr and tar because they have the shortest range ...lr being the longest range rifle should have the weakest cqc..which is the case and rr should have the second weakest which is not the case LOL RR good in CQC. go try that nonsense out in PC my misguided little friend. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3701	Posted - 2014.09.26 16:38:00 - [17] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: I've been using the Sever C-1 assault with a basic RR, and it's rediculously effective. So is the mlt shotgun and hmg. What you guys are saying is that assaults should never push a point. You want me to push with a cbr vs hmg or shotgun? No I'll use the gun I've used since its release. Now maybe if the ASCR is ever fixed to where it's viable I'll change my mind. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Michael Arck 5782	Posted - 2014.09.26 17:26:00 - [18] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Michael Arck wrote: You have plenty of time to get away. Stubbornness gets you killed is that some half assed way of defending a weapon everyone knows is broken LOL yes I'm defending a weapon that is unfairly criticized because its the pub favorite. Gives me flashbacks of the AR days. The DPS on RR is not as high. And because its a rail, in other words, because of how its fires, you can easily dodge its shots putting the user at a disadvantage. A quick juke move/strafe or duck behind cover will help. Not trying to talk as if you don't know these things. Its just that when I hear somebody complain about the RR, it just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe the problem comes from people being in engagements and someone pops them with a RR. I can understand that but really, what doesn't pop you while you're in engagement? I think the RR gets picked on unfairly. And lets face it, theres a wide variety of choice weapons that can stifle a RR user fact of the matter is it has the strogest cqc out of all the long range rifles..running a long range rifle is supposed to limiit you to an area of effect and make pushing outside the abilities of that area difficult thats the case with lr its the case with scr its the case with tar..but not rr..rr competes with smgs..it competes with hmgs in cqc.. the damn gun is equally effective in cqc..its a problem defending it doesnt change that...if ccp looked at the stats i bet rr the long range version gets more cqc kills than lr scr and tar combined since delta...as scr just got knocked down a power lvl in cqc now the two guns that should have the strongest cqc are the scr and tar because they have the shortest range ...lr being the longest range rifle should have the weakest cqc..which is the case and rr should have the second weakest which is not the case You're arguing just to argue, jumping from one complaint point to the next. Anything can kill you CQC. Just like a mercenary who trained well could pop you in the face with PLC or someone blamming you with a FG up close. We don't consider those CQC viable but in the right hands they work. Nothing against you personally but the complaints of RR are just so damn tiring. They always follow the same format. "Range and damage is just too high! Nerf the RR" Logical and common sense provided to counter the argument "B-B-B-But what about CQC! It can kill me in CQC!" ...uhhhhh And???? That CQC argument is dumb. Because a mercenary has better aim, strategy and strafe plan than you doesn't mean that its grounds to nerf the RR even further into a joke weapon and that somehow it locks in CQC. Yes, you can die to anything in CQC except for swarms if you practiced long enough...WOW Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 224	Posted - 2014.09.26 17:39:00 - [19] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Michael Arck wrote: You have plenty of time to get away. Stubbornness gets you killed is that some half assed way of defending a weapon everyone knows is broken LOL yes I'm defending a weapon that is unfairly criticized because its the pub favorite. Gives me flashbacks of the AR days. The DPS on RR is not as high. And because its a rail, in other words, because of how its fires, you can easily dodge its shots putting the user at a disadvantage. A quick juke move/strafe or duck behind cover will help. Not trying to talk as if you don't know these things. Its just that when I hear somebody complain about the RR, it just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe the problem comes from people being in engagements and someone pops them with a RR. I can understand that but really, what doesn't pop you while you're in engagement? I think the RR gets picked on unfairly. And lets face it, theres a wide variety of choice weapons that can stifle a RR user fact of the matter is it has the strogest cqc out of all the long range rifles..running a long range rifle is supposed to limiit you to an area of effect and make pushing outside the abilities of that area difficult thats the case with lr its the case with scr its the case with tar..but not rr..rr competes with smgs..it competes with hmgs in cqc.. the damn gun is equally effective in cqc..its a problem defending it doesnt change that...if ccp looked at the stats i bet rr the long range version gets more cqc kills than lr scr and tar combined since delta...as scr just got knocked down a power lvl in cqc now the two guns that should have the strongest cqc are the scr and tar because they have the shortest range ...lr being the longest range rifle should have the weakest cqc..which is the case and rr should have the second weakest which is not the case You're arguing just to argue, jumping from one complaint point to the next. Anything can kill you CQC. Just like a mercenary who trained well could pop you in the face with PLC or someone blamming you with a FG up close. We don't consider those CQC viable but in the right hands they work. Nothing against you personally but the complaints of RR are just so damn tiring. They always follow the same format. "Range and damage is just too high! Nerf the RR" Logical and common sense provided to counter the argument "B-B-B-But what about CQC! It can kill me in CQC!" ...uhhhhh And???? That CQC argument is dumb. Because a mercenary has better aim, strategy and strafe plan than you doesn't mean that its grounds to nerf the RR even further into a joke weapon and that somehow it locks in CQC. Yes, you can die to anything in CQC except for swarms if you practiced long enough...WOW if its ok and broken for the rr to be the best all around gun and function in every range..then all the other long range rifles should be just as good in cqc...you defending you noob stick pretty vehemently no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1543	Posted - 2014.09.26 18:33:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: This has to be a joke. I could not agree more. What a completely off base thread. Not only is the RR outshined in CQC by the AR and CR, but more than a few sidearms too. And it only got worse with Delta. And let's not forget that damn kick with ADS. Good luck killing anyone who knows how to strafe at distance or knows how to stay near cover. I think much of the QQing about the RR is just by people who don't use the weapon and were either killed at a distance where they had no answer or they simply suck in CQC. Because my take is, after playing all the rifles extensively since Delta dropped, is the RR is probably the 3rd or 4th best rifle in Delta. It only dominant at distance on stationary or moving-in-a-straight-line targets (i.e. people begging to be killed), and the RR is outshined in every way by the AR and CR (and even LR if you've got single-shot skills) in CQC. If you disagree, I suspect you've not tested them yet.

NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 465	Posted - 2014.09.26 18:52:00 - [21] - Quote Leadfoot10, "The rail riffle truly excels at stationary targets"... SLOW CLAP!! Nice Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1545	Posted - 2014.09.26 19:10:00 - [22] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: LOL RR good in CQC. go try that nonsense out in PC my misguided little friend. Exactly. Just as anyone who has competed in PC for the past 3 months (hell, since the CR's introduction) can tell you, the RR is about the worst choice you could make in terms of CQC, and you need only watch the killfeed in a few matches to find out the real truth of the matter. The RR's only use is in overwatch at distance (i.e. bridge camping) or on the outside doing something similar. Everywhere else, it's near the bottom of, or at the bottom of, the list.
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1816	Posted - 2014.09.26 19:10:00 - [23] - Quote n Rail rifle is excellent in its niche, and users with skill can make it work in cqc. People have this false notion that the weapon shouldn't be viable in cqc, which is asinine. There are certainly more viable weapons in cqc, but that doesn't mean it should be unable to perform in cqc. Only that the other rifles are better choices. Here's something else to note. The meta game is armor stacking, so is it any wonder that the armor damaging rifles are preferred? Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 219	Posted - 2014.09.26 19:17:00 - [24] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: n Rail rifle is excellent in its niche, and users with skill can make it work in cqc. People have this false notion that the weapon shouldn't be viable in cqc, which is asinine. There are certainly more viable weapons in cqc, but that doesn't mean it should be unable to perform in cqc. Only that the other rifles are better choices. Here's something else to note. The meta game is armor stacking, so is it any wonder that the armor damaging rifles are preferred? being too good up close was part of the reason what got the scram nerfed, i dont see what makes the rail special when it can put out twice as much damage with no draw backs lets just burn this motherfucker down pew pew goes my scram rifle zap zap goes my scram pistol vizzzzzzz goes my laser
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3703	Posted - 2014.09.26 19:20:00 - [25] - Quote Here's the CQC rating.. All CBR, then the AR's then SCR then RR then ASCR. Let's talk about something that actually needs fixed. The ASCR. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
y678iop Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2014.09.26 19:21:00 - [26] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: i thought ccp was going to do something about that gun covering all ranges will great efficacy .. when are you doing this ccp because im really sick of rr being the omnipotent ranged god of dust or buff the cqc of all long range rifles so the all are just fantasmally better than everything else... none of the long range rifles should be viable over things intended for cqc.. You are an idiot, so the rifle shouldnt work well up close? All the rifles are long range dummy, rail simply has the longest, doesnt mean it shouldnt work up close. Should the scrambler, combat, and plasma rifles all do less damage the closer they get? Its a dumb concept. Yes the rail has the longest range, that doesnt mean it should suck upclose. It has less ammo per clip, slow fire rate, and a charge time. If you are getting beat up close you are simply bad. This is an alt. It is here to be banned, so that I may be outrageous and speak the TRUTH.
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1816	Posted - 2014.09.26 19:21:00 - [27] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: n Rail rifle is excellent in its niche, and users with skill can make it work in cqc. People have this false notion that the weapon shouldn't be viable in cqc, which is asinine. There are certainly more viable weapons in cqc, but that doesn't mean it should be unable to perform in cqc. Only that the other rifles are better choices. Here's something else to note. The meta game is armor stacking, so is it any wonder that the armor damaging rifles are preferred? being too good up close was part of the reason what got the scram nerfed, i dont see what makes the rail special when it can put out twice as much damage with no draw backs The drawback is kick. Test it out for yourself. Rail kicks about double what the other rifles do. It shouldn't always lose in cqc, simply have a harder time with it. Those of us who practiced with it have learned to overcome the kick and can now fight up close with it. We got good, and we are rewarded. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1545	Posted - 2014.09.26 19:23:00 - [28] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: n Rail rifle is excellent in its niche, and users with skill can make it work in cqc. People have this false notion that the weapon shouldn't be viable in cqc, which is asinine. There are certainly more viable weapons in cqc, but that doesn't mean it should be unable to perform in cqc. Only that the other rifles are better choices. Here's something else to note. The meta game is armor stacking, so is it any wonder that the armor damaging rifles are preferred? being too good up close was part of the reason what got the scram nerfed, i dont see what makes the rail special when it can put out twice as much damage with no draw backs No draw backs? Twice as much damage? Really? Is a firing delay an advantage? Is the highest kick of all rifles an advantage? How is the LOWEST DPS of all the rifles somehow "twice as much damage"? See: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174569 You are at best misinformed and at best delusional. Serious question: Have you ever used an RR?
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1816	Posted - 2014.09.26 19:24:00 - [29] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: No draw backs? Twice as much damage? Really? Is a firing delay an advantage? Is the highest kick of all rifles an advantage? How is the LOWEST DPS of all the rifles somehow "twice as much damage"? See: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174569 You are at best misinformed and at worst delusional. FTFY Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 219	Posted - 2014.09.26 19:28:00 - [30] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: n Rail rifle is excellent in its niche, and users with skill can make it work in cqc. People have this false notion that the weapon shouldn't be viable in cqc, which is asinine. There are certainly more viable weapons in cqc, but that doesn't mean it should be unable to perform in cqc. Only that the other rifles are better choices. Here's something else to note. The meta game is armor stacking, so is it any wonder that the armor damaging rifles are preferred? being too good up close was part of the reason what got the scram nerfed, i dont see what makes the rail special when it can put out twice as much damage with no draw backs No draw backs? Twice as much damage? Really? Is a firing delay an advantage? Is the highest kick of all rifles an advantage? How is the LOWEST DPS of all the rifles somehow "twice as much damage"? See: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174569 You are at best misinformed and at best delusional. it can do something like 2500 dam per mag, you going to tell me that is not an advantage in cqc when the guy with a scram can only do half that if he lands every shot? lets just burn this motherfucker down pew pew goes my scram rifle zap zap goes my scram pistol vizzzzzzz goes my laser



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