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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16573	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:07:00 - [1] - Quote I'm no CCP Logibro but some folks hate looking though spreadsheets. Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Delta Deployed on: Wednesday 24 September No skill point refund will be granted with this hotfix Turrets All small turrets 30% isk cost reduction All small turrets had their fitting requirements reduced by 15% CPU and 15% PG Small Blaster Turrets now have 0.5 splash, 25% increased rotation speed, range increased to 120 from 100, increased magazine from 150 to 200, and increased ammo from 600 to 1200 Small Rail Turrets splash damage removed and rate of fire reduced from 120 to 92. Large Missile Turret damage profile adjusted to +15% against armor and -15% to shield from the previous +35% armor and -30% shields. Large Blaster Turret splash damage removed. Large Rail Gun Turret splash damage removed and damage profile flipped to +10% against armor and -10% to shields from the previous -10% against armor and +10% to sheilds. New Player Experience New Players will start with the following skills -Dropsuit Upgrades Level 1 and Level 2 -Dropsuit Shield Upgrades Level 1 -Dropsuit Armor Upgrades Level 1 -Dropsuit Core Upgrades Level 1 -Dropsuit Electronics Level 1 -Dropsuits Engineering Level 1 -Weaponry Level 1 -Dropsuit Command Level 1 Militia Starter Suit Fit "Sniper" had its sidearm changed to Submachine Gun Militia Starter Suit Fit "Front Line" had its sidearm changed to their racial sidearms. Militia Starter Suit Fit "Medi" had its sidearm changed to Magsec SMG Academy Length has been doubled Starking Isk reduced to 25,000 isk. New Special Issued pre-fitted suits are now assigned to new players to preview various roles. New players will also be assigned with starting boosters. Weapon Profiles All projectile weapon profile damage adjusted to +15% armor damage and -15% shield damage from +10% armor damage and -5% shield damage Dropsuits Minmatar Medium Basic HP increased from 150 Shield and 135 armor to 160 shields and 140 armor. Minmatar Medium Assault HP increased from 200 Shield and 185 armor to 210 shields and 190 armor. Minmatar Heavy Commando HP increased from 300 Shield and 260 armor to 330 shields and 290 armor. Minmatar Heavy Basic HP increased from 390 Shield and 370 armor to 410 shields and 390 armor. Minmatar Sentinel HP increased from 390 Shield and 435 armor to 410 shields and 4600 armor. Modules All Shield Regulators, Rechargers, and Energizers had their CPU needs reduced by 15% Afterburner Cooldowns adjusted to 45 second / 40 Seconds / 35 Seconds at STD / ADV / PRO Fuel Injectors Cooldowns adjusted to 45 second / 40 Seconds / 35 Seconds at STD / ADV / PRO Mobile Clone Reactivation Units (MCRU) fitting costs reduced to 100 PG and and 15 CPU from 160 PG and 20 CPU Vehicles All Assault Dropship prices reduced from 323,000 isk to 200,000 isk All Grimsnes class dropships HP increased to 1200 shields and 3425 armor from 1000 shields and 2625 armor. All Myron class dropships HP increased to 2520 shields and 1265 armor from 1720 shields and 1065 armor. Installations [*] Supply Depot resupply range increased to 26 meters from 16 meters. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16573	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:07:00 - [2] - Quote Handheld Weapons Nova Knife Fitting Optimization Skill added, reducing the PG knives require when trained Burst HMG Damage per bullet reduced by 10%, heat increased from 2.5x to 3x in comparison to standard HMGs, Increased maximum and minimal dispersion levels per shot from 0.14 to 0.1 thus reducing accuracy. Added Militia HMG Plasma Cannon Projectile Speed increased to 6500 from 4050 Swarm Launchers Missile top speed was increased to 65 from 50 and acceleration increased to 1200 from 1000 and adjusted max rotation of the missiles to 80 which is down from 90 making them less agile. All Flaylock Pistol and Variants had their projectile speed increased. All Flaylock Pistol and Variants had their range increased to 52m up from 50m. All Bolt Pistols Reload time reduced from 2.7 to 2 seconds SMG -Range normalized to 44 meters -Militia SMG total ammo reduced from 480 down to 384 Breach SMG -Range normalized to 42 meters -Fire delay increased to rate of fire increased to 700 rpm up from 535 rpm -Damage adjusted to 30 / 31.4 / 33.08 at STD / ADV / PRO up from 28.35 / 29.77 / 31.19. Assault SMG -Hipfire and ADS accuracy Adjustments favoring Hipfire use -Range normalized 46 for assault variants. -Fire delay increased to rate of fire increased to 1200 rpm up from 1053 rpm -Damage adjust to 18.1 / 19.01 at ADV / PRO down from 22.05 / 23.1 damage. -Magazine reduced to 68 down from 80 -Total ammo reduced from 504 down to 408 Flaylock Pistol -Added Militia Flaylock Pistol -Fittings have been adjusted to 2:25 / 3:38 / 5:62 PG:CPU for STD / ADV / PRO from the previous fitting of 0:19 / 1:32 / 2:45 PG:CPU. -Damage increased to 175 / 183.5 / 192.94 for STD / ADV / PRO from 165 / 173.85 / 181.5 -Magazine Size increased to 4 up from 3 -Splash Damage increased to 158 / 165 / 174 for STD / ADV / PRO from 140 / 147 / 154. -Splash Radius normalized to 1.5m Breach Flaylock Pistol -Fittings adjusted to 2 PG / 25 CPU up from 0 PG / 19 CPU -Damage increased to 325 damage from 206 damage -Splash Radius reduced to 0.5m Magsec SMG -Hipfire and ADS Adjustments favoring ADS use. -Added Militia Magsec SMG -Fittings have been adjusted to 3:18 / 6:32.4 / 12:48.6 PG:CPU for STD / ADV / PRO from 4:22 / 8:40 / 12:61 PG:CPU. -Range normalized to 63 meters. -Rate of Fire reduced to 650 from 667 -Damage reduced to 31 / 32.55 / 34.18 at STD / ADV / PRO from 32 / 33.6 / 35.2 -Magazine Added Militia Ion Pistol Added Militia Bolt Pistol All Ion Pistols seize time reduced from 3.5 to 1.5 seconds CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16573	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:08:00 - [3] - Quote Reserved CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
John ShepardIII Murphys-Law 538	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:11:00 - [4] - Quote No my sub got nerfed :( The True Shepard.
bwd23 DUSTer's HIGH 0	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:12:00 - [5] - Quote Any word on specialist only 2ammo clip size for flaylock?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16577	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:18:00 - [6] - Quote bwd23 wrote: Any word on specialist only 2ammo clip size for flaylock? They have always been that way; the most I can probably fight for is +1 or losing out a lot on ammo count ; specialists should have non-output drawbacks for reduced fit cost. The isk prices also needs to be adjusted for all of them now that these drawbacks are getting put in. Either way stuff for feedback keep em comming well see what we can do for echo. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4688	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:19:00 - [7] - Quote That Min Sent with 4600 armor is gonna cause some uproar! Level 4 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16582	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:22:00 - [8] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: That Min Sent with 4600 armor is gonna cause some uproar! fixed CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1576	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:22:00 - [9] - Quote Assault Scrambler Rifle Rate of Fire decreased from 705.88 to 600 (we think that's a mistake).. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1748	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:23:00 - [10] - Quote Hey IWS just to let you know, CCP inadvertently reduced the Assault Scrambler to 600RPM the same as the Regular Charged shot scrambler. Obviously a small oversight but if you could tell them that would be great for the few guys out there that use the Assault Scrambler. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 954	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:26:00 - [11] - Quote @Iron Wolf Saber: Assault SCR ROF nerfed - please ask dev - i hope it's just mistake... DPS of Assault SCR down by 16% Please support fair play!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3127	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:27:00 - [12] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: That Min Sent with 4600 armor is gonna cause some uproar! fixed Still not fixed. if it had 4600 armor I'd be THAT GUY!
NAV HIV The Generals 2147	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:28:00 - [13] - Quote Someone give this guy a few likes lol Let us know when you'd be advocating to change all of these to something else again... Someone would start crying soon enough and then all these things Would change again and then everyone would get 2-3 mil Free SP to keep their mouths shut... Some policy... Please remove the "Triangle" Button which shows the description part of each item, suit, vehicle and weapon and simply put "Soon tm" It made more sense...
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4689	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:41:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: That Min Sent with 4600 armor is gonna cause some uproar! fixed Just messing around, thanks for doing this! Level 4 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 4008	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:48:00 - [15] - Quote Ouch, that magazine NERF for the ASMG. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1937	Posted - 2014.09.24 17:58:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Handheld Weapons Nova Knife Fitting Optimization Skill added, reducing the PG knives require when trained Burst HMG Damage per bullet reduced by 10%, heat increased from 2.5x to 3x in comparison to standard HMGs, Increased maximum and minimal dispersion levels per shot from 0.14 to 0.1 thus reducing accuracy. Added Militia HMG Plasma Cannon Projectile Speed increased to 6500 from 4050 Swarm Launchers Missile top speed was increased to 65 from 50 and acceleration increased to 1200 from 1000 and adjusted max rotation of the missiles to 80 which is down from 90 making them less agile. All Flaylock Pistol and Variants had their projectile speed increased. All Flaylock Pistol and Variants had their range increased to 52m up from 50m. SMG -Range normalized to 44 meters -Militia SMG total ammo reduced from 480 down to 384 Breach SMG -Range normalized to 42 meters -Fire delay increased to rate of fire increased to 700 rpm up from 535 rpm -Damage adjusted to 30 / 31.4 / 33.08 at STD / ADV / PRO up from 28.35 / 29.77 / 31.19. Assault SMG -Hipfire and ADS accuracy Adjustments favoring Hipfire use -Range normalized 46 for assault variants. -Fire delay increased to rate of fire increased to 1200 rpm up from 1053 rpm -Damage adjust to 18.1 / 19.01 at ADV / PRO down from 22.05 / 23.1 damage -Magazine reduced to 68 down from 80 -Total ammo reduced from 504 down to 408 Flaylock Pistol -Added Militia Flaylock Pistol -Fittings have been adjusted to 2:25 / 3:38 / 5:62 PG:CPU for STD / ADV / PRO from the previous fitting of 0:19 / 1:32 / 2:45 PG:CPU. -Damage increased to 175 / 183.5 / 192.94 for STD / ADV / PRO from 165 / 173.85 / 181.5 -Magazine Size increased to 4 up from 3 -Increased Max Ammo to 20 / 24 / 28 for STD / ADV / PRO from 15 / 18 / 21 -Splash Damage increased to 158 / 165 / 174 for STD / ADV / PRO from 140 / 147 / 154. -Splash Radius normalized to 1.5m Breach Flaylock Pistol -Fittings adjusted to 2 PG / 25 CPU up from 0 PG / 19 CPU -Damage increased to 325 damage from 206 damage -Splash Radius reduced to 0.5m Magsec SMG -Hipfire and ADS Adjustments favoring ADS use. -Added Militia Magsec SMG -Fittings have been adjusted to 3:18 / 6:32.4 / 12:48.6 PG:CPU for STD / ADV / PRO from 4:22 / 8:40 / 12:61 PG:CPU. -Range normalized to 63 meters. -Rate of Fire reduced to 650 from 667 -Damage reduced to 31 / 32.55 / 34.18 at STD / ADV / PRO from 32 / 33.6 / 35.2 -Magazine increased to 58 up from 54 -Max Ammo increased from 324 to 348 Bolt Pistol -Added Militia Bolt Pistol -Reload time reduced to 2 seconds down from 2.7 -Fittings have been adjusted to 3:15 / 6:35 / 10:55 PG:CPU for STD / ADV / PRO from 6:10 / 10:25 / 14:42 PG:CPU. -Range normalized to 68m -Damage increased to 229 / 240.45 / 252.47 at STD / ADV / PRO from 135 / 141.75 / 148.5 -Magazine size reduced from 6 to 4 -Max Ammo reduced from 36 to 24 Ion Pistol -Added Militia Ion Pistol -Range Normalized to 39m -Fittings have been adjusted to 3:15 / 7:30 / 10:48 PG:CPU for STD / ADV / PRO from 2:20 / 4:38 / 14:42 PG:CPU. -Overheat Seize time reduced 1.5 down from 3.5 seconds -Rate of fire increased to 450 up from 375 -Magazine size increased to 16 from 12 -Max Ammo increased to 96 from 72 Scrambler Pistol -Fittings have been adjusted to 3:12 / 6:29.5 / 8:44 PG:CPU for STD / ADV / PRO from 2:12 / 5:29.5 / 8:48 PG:CPU. -Range Normalized to 55m -Rate of Fire increased to 350 up from 286 -Militia Rate of Fire increased to 330 up from 286 -Damage lowered to 62 / 65 / 68.3 for STD / ADV / PRO from 80 / 84 / 88 -Magazine size increased to 12 from 8. -Militia Magazine size increased to 10 from 8 -Max ammo increased from 48 to 72 Assault Scrambler Pistol -Fittings have been adjusted to 4:16 / 7:36.3 / 10:60 PG:CPU for STD / ADV / PRO from 4:15 / 7:34 / 10:68 PG:CPU. -Range Normalized to 58m -Rate of Fire increased to 400 up from 302 -Damage lowered to 54 / 56 / 59 for STD / ADV / PRO from 80 / 84 / 88 Breach Scrambler Pistol -Fittings have been adjusted to 4:28 / 7:40 PG:CPU for STD / ADV from 2:11 / 5:27 PG:CPU. -Range Normalized to 52m -Rate of Fire increased to 150 up from 133 -Damage lowered to 54 / 56 / 59 for STD / ADV / PRO from 80 / 84 / 88 Tactical Scrambler Pistol -Fittings have been adjusted to 7:28 PG:CPU for ADV from 5:27 PG:CPU. -Rate of Fire increased to 350 up from 302 -Damage lowered to 62 from 79.8 Burst Scrambler Pistol -Fittings have been adjusted to 7:28 PG:CPU for ADV from 5:27 PG:CPU. -Rate of Fire increased to 588 up from 476 -Clip reduced to 18 from 24 -Max Ammo reduced to 54 from 72 Please provide similar details for rifles, including changes to kick and dispersion. If you don't have numbers 'kick increased' or 'dispersion decreased' would still be great. All there is in the dev blog is 'Almost all the Rifles received a tweak with regard to Handling and Accuracy, making them more balanced', which is vague to say the least...
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 514	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:06:00 - [17] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: That Min Sent with 4600 armor is gonna cause some uproar! fixed Still not fixed. if it had 4600 armor I'd be THAT GUY! Typical Minmatar, low tech means duct taping armor plates on a Heavy suit and calling it a tank
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16595	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:06:00 - [18] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Hey IWS just to let you know, CCP inadvertently reduced the Assault Scrambler to 600RPM the same as the Regular Charged shot scrambler. Obviously a small oversight but if you could tell them that would be great for the few guys out there that use the Assault Scrambler. noted and fowraded CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1576	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:06:00 - [19] - Quote Of note: Small Proto Turrets still cost 105k, a savings of 0 ISK. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16595	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:07:00 - [20] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Please provide similar details for rifles, including changes to kick and dispersion. If you don't have numbers 'kick increased' or 'dispersion decreased' would still be great. All there is in the dev blog is 'Almost all the Rifles received a tweak with regard to Handling and Accuracy, making them more balanced', which is vague to say the least... I wish I could but they're really weird numbers. They're nearly as bad as the zoom numbers you see for sniper rifles. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16595	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:08:00 - [21] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Of note: Small Proto Turrets still cost 105k, a savings of 0 ISK. hmm this could because the spreadsheet didn't change them either... Noted and forwarded. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16595	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:09:00 - [22] - Quote John Psi wrote: @Iron Wolf Saber: Assault SCR ROF nerfed - please ask dev - i hope it's just mistake... DPS of Assault SCR down by 16% Noted and forwarded. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3311	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:15:00 - [23] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Someone give this guy a few likes lol Let us know when you'd be advocating to change all of these to something else again... Someone would start crying soon enough and then all these things Would change again and then everyone would get 2-3 mil Free SP to keep their mouths shut... Some policy... Please remove the "Triangle" Button which shows the description part of each item, suit, vehicle and weapon and simply put "Soon tm" It made more sense... I agree, vague bars are a much better way of telling how a weapon will perform... balance happens, get over it... now... balance done poorly also happens, but that's how life is... people **** up... but if life doesn't change that sounds quite boring as well... http://evil-guide.tripod.com/
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16595	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:17:00 - [24] - Quote There is always echo and the quick delta.1 for things we royally screwed up on and can adjust on the fly. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1937	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:26:00 - [25] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Please provide similar details for rifles, including changes to kick and dispersion. If you don't have numbers 'kick increased' or 'dispersion decreased' would still be great. All there is in the dev blog is 'Almost all the Rifles received a tweak with regard to Handling and Accuracy, making them more balanced', which is vague to say the least... I wish I could but they're really weird numbers. They're nearly as bad as the zoom numbers you see for sniper rifles. We don't need the numbers themselves. Just things like 'kick increased' (without disclosing the exact magnitude) would be really helpful. Also, I believe some (non-sniper) rifles, like the Breach AR, ScR, and TAR, had damage and RoF changes, so it would useful to have those in one place.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16597	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:36:00 - [26] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Please provide similar details for rifles, including changes to kick and dispersion. If you don't have numbers 'kick increased' or 'dispersion decreased' would still be great. All there is in the dev blog is 'Almost all the Rifles received a tweak with regard to Handling and Accuracy, making them more balanced', which is vague to say the least... I wish I could but they're really weird numbers. They're nearly as bad as the zoom numbers you see for sniper rifles. We don't need the numbers themselves. Just things like 'kick increased' (without disclosing the exact magnitude) would be really helpful. Also, I believe some (non-sniper) rifles, like the Breach AR, ScR, and TAR, had damage and RoF changes, so it would useful to have those in one place. The overall idea is to correlate the role and accuracies between weapons. So AR and CR would favor hipfire over ads so the kick and dispersion and kick and accuracy are adjusted to help give each one their little pocket. Inversely the SCR and RR favor ADS over hipfire. Now you adjust the kick, dispersion, and recoil between the 4 and you get four unique profiles that have their functional niches. Similar accuracy adjustments where given to the sidearms as well. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16597	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:37:00 - [27] - Quote Added a few more details I found. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Foehammerr OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 57	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:43:00 - [28] - Quote As an ADS pilot, I can tell no distinguishable difference between the performance of the blaster before or after delta besides the ammo count which is a godsend, and the range buff which is kind of nice i guess. The splash adds no tangible benefit in it's current form. *Rangers Lead The Way!* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
CamClarke 0uter.Heaven 122	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:45:00 - [29] - Quote Bolt Pistol is 2.2s reload, not 2.
Francois Sanchez What The French Red Whines. 113	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:53:00 - [30] - Quote Breach scrambler pistol's damage is wrong, thanks for putting an easy to read hotfix note

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16602	Posted - 2014.09.24 18:55:00 - [31] - Quote CamClarke wrote: Bolt Pistol is 2.2s reload, not 2. Going to confirm since the spreadsheet says 2. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16603	Posted - 2014.09.24 19:03:00 - [32] - Quote Francois Sanchez wrote: Breach scrambler pistol's damage is wrong, thanks for putting an easy to read hotfix note Fixed. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
NAV HIV The Generals 2148	Posted - 2014.09.24 19:04:00 - [33] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Someone give this guy a few likes lol Let us know when you'd be advocating to change all of these to something else again... Someone would start crying soon enough and then all these things Would change again and then everyone would get 2-3 mil Free SP to keep their mouths shut... Some policy... Please remove the "Triangle" Button which shows the description part of each item, suit, vehicle and weapon and simply put "Soon tm" It made more sense... I agree, vague bars are a much better way of telling how a weapon will perform... balance happens, get over it... now... balance done poorly also happens, but that's how life is... people **** up... but if life doesn't change that sounds quite boring as well... It isn't exactly a balancing act. Don't try and act naive. If you have been here long enough then you should know exactly how it is...
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5185	Posted - 2014.09.24 19:10:00 - [34] - Quote Any word on specific Fine Rifle changes? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 956	Posted - 2014.09.24 19:41:00 - [35] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: noted and fowraded looks like we have CPM with good professional activity thanxx god Please support fair play!
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1756	Posted - 2014.09.24 19:50:00 - [36] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Please provide similar details for rifles, including changes to kick and dispersion. If you don't have numbers 'kick increased' or 'dispersion decreased' would still be great. All there is in the dev blog is 'Almost all the Rifles received a tweak with regard to Handling and Accuracy, making them more balanced', which is vague to say the least... I wish I could but they're really weird numbers. They're nearly as bad as the zoom numbers you see for sniper rifles. CCP Rattati wrote: Reduce Hipfire dispersion of Tactical Assault Rifle (TAR) to be closer to the Scrambler Rifle (considerable) Reduce Hipfire Kick of TAR to be closer to Scrambler Rifle (considerable) Increase Hipfire Kick of Scrambler Rifle to be closer to TAR (tiny) Reduce Hipfire Kick of Gallente Assault rifle (tiny) Reduce Hipfire Kick of Gallente Burst Assault Rifles (tiny) Reduce Zoomed Dispersion of Gallente Breach Rifles (considerable) Set ROF of both Scrambler and TAR to 600 Increase Hipfire Kick of Rail Rifles on second or more rapid consecutive shot, so full auto will be less accurate in CQC (some) There are no tweaks for the Assault Scrambler That info might be helpful from one of his older posts. And by the way, awesome of you to do this IWS. Thanks man. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16621	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:09:00 - [37] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Please provide similar details for rifles, including changes to kick and dispersion. If you don't have numbers 'kick increased' or 'dispersion decreased' would still be great. All there is in the dev blog is 'Almost all the Rifles received a tweak with regard to Handling and Accuracy, making them more balanced', which is vague to say the least... I wish I could but they're really weird numbers. They're nearly as bad as the zoom numbers you see for sniper rifles. CCP Rattati wrote: Reduce Hipfire dispersion of Tactical Assault Rifle (TAR) to be closer to the Scrambler Rifle (considerable) Reduce Hipfire Kick of TAR to be closer to Scrambler Rifle (considerable) Increase Hipfire Kick of Scrambler Rifle to be closer to TAR (tiny) Reduce Hipfire Kick of Gallente Assault rifle (tiny) Reduce Hipfire Kick of Gallente Burst Assault Rifles (tiny) Reduce Zoomed Dispersion of Gallente Breach Rifles (considerable) Set ROF of both Scrambler and TAR to 600 Increase Hipfire Kick of Rail Rifles on second or more rapid consecutive shot, so full auto will be less accurate in CQC (some) There are no tweaks for the Assault Scrambler That info might be helpful from one of his older posts. And by the way, awesome of you to do this IWS. Thanks man. Added these sounded exactly like what he had planned with the cpm. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1621	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:25:00 - [38] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Bolt Pistol -Added Militia Bolt Pistol -Reload time reduced to 2.2 seconds down from 2.7 -Fittings have been adjusted to 3:15 / 6:35 / 10:55 PG:CPU for STD / ADV / PRO from 6:10 / 10:25 / 14:42 PG:CPU. -Range normalized to 68m -Damage increased to 229 / 240.45 / 252.47 at STD / ADV / PRO from 135 / 141.75 / 148.5 -Magazine size reduced from 6 to 4 -Max Ammo reduced from 36 to 24 HORREY SHEET!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16635	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:55:00 - [39] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Bolt Pistol -Added Militia Bolt Pistol -Reload time reduced to 2.2 seconds down from 2.7 -Fittings have been adjusted to 3:15 / 6:35 / 10:55 PG:CPU for STD / ADV / PRO from 6:10 / 10:25 / 14:42 PG:CPU. -Range normalized to 68m -Damage increased to 229 / 240.45 / 252.47 at STD / ADV / PRO from 135 / 141.75 / 148.5 -Magazine size reduced from 6 to 4 -Max Ammo reduced from 36 to 24 HORREY SHEET! Add adjusted headshot bonus. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1939	Posted - 2014.09.24 21:01:00 - [40] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Please provide similar details for rifles, including changes to kick and dispersion. If you don't have numbers 'kick increased' or 'dispersion decreased' would still be great. All there is in the dev blog is 'Almost all the Rifles received a tweak with regard to Handling and Accuracy, making them more balanced', which is vague to say the least... I wish I could but they're really weird numbers. They're nearly as bad as the zoom numbers you see for sniper rifles. CCP Rattati wrote: Reduce Hipfire dispersion of Tactical Assault Rifle (TAR) to be closer to the Scrambler Rifle (considerable) Reduce Hipfire Kick of TAR to be closer to Scrambler Rifle (considerable) Increase Hipfire Kick of Scrambler Rifle to be closer to TAR (tiny) Reduce Hipfire Kick of Gallente Assault rifle (tiny) Reduce Hipfire Kick of Gallente Burst Assault Rifles (tiny) Reduce Zoomed Dispersion of Gallente Breach Rifles (considerable) Set ROF of both Scrambler and TAR to 600 Increase Hipfire Kick of Rail Rifles on second or more rapid consecutive shot, so full auto will be less accurate in CQC (some) There are no tweaks for the Assault Scrambler That info might be helpful from one of his older posts. And by the way, awesome of you to do this IWS. Thanks man. Added these sounded exactly like what he had planned with the cpm. Based on the above Rattati comments and some others I predicted the following: AR - tiny hipfire kick reduction - OVERALL SMALL BUFF BrAR - 14% dam buff, zoom dispersion reduction - OVERALL LARGE BUFF BuAR - 2% dam buff, tiny hipfire kick reduction - OVERALL MEDIUM BUFF Tac AR - RoF buff, hipfire kick reduction, hipfire dispersion decrease - OVERALL MEDIUM BUFF (large buff for turbo users) CR - damage profile nerf - OVERALL MEDIUM NERF ACR - 4% dam buff, dispersion increase, damage profile nerf - OVERALL MEDIUM NERF RR - hipfire kick increase - OVERALL MEDIUM NERF ARR - NO CHANGE ScR - RoF nerf, tiny hipfire kick increase - OVERALL SMALL NERF (medium nerf for turbo users) AScR - NO CHANGE Would be nice to know how much of this did actually happen...

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16662	Posted - 2014.09.25 01:04:00 - [41] - Quote well like i said its hard to get the numbers now give me a few more hours or so CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 7948	Posted - 2014.09.25 02:14:00 - [42] - Quote Thanks for the initiative, I will support this thread with more detail. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 257	Posted - 2014.09.25 02:40:00 - [43] - Quote Maybe its just me but the Flaylock pistol projectile speed doesn't seem as fast as i thought it would be or rather it seems no different than before. Please look into. Thanks 8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears OMG the Tears!! :)
Henrietta Unknown CREATURES OF THE NIGHT 312	Posted - 2014.09.25 03:06:00 - [44] - Quote "GÇóRifle Accuracy relationships between hipfire and ADS and ranges are correlated to best suit each rifles role in their given ranges." So that's why I put every bullet into a Gal Scout's head with a RR for 5 SECONDS and he still shotguns me. Please consider. Henrietta Reborn
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1591	Posted - 2014.09.25 03:16:00 - [45] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks for the initiative, I will support this thread with more detail. Officer Weapon Stats. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
CamClarke 0uter.Heaven 132	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:19:00 - [46] - Quote It seems the 'Templar' and 'Dren' Scrambler Pistols missed the CPU/PG adjustment. They're still at their old 11/2. If I don't bring it up now, eventually someone will decry it as "Pay to Win".
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 903	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:24:00 - [47] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: bwd23 wrote: Any word on specialist only 2ammo clip size for flaylock? They have always been that way; the most I can probably fight for is +1 or losing out a lot on ammo count ; specialists should have non-output drawbacks for reduced fit cost. The isk prices also needs to be adjusted for all of them now that these drawbacks are getting put in. Either way stuff for feedback keep em comming well see what we can do for echo. This is untrue I run the g20 primarily and it used to have 3 round clip. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 415	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:36:00 - [48] - Quote Small eHP buff to all Minmatar suits *except* Logis? Is this an oversite? Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16676	Posted - 2014.09.25 11:22:00 - [49] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: bwd23 wrote: Any word on specialist only 2ammo clip size for flaylock? They have always been that way; the most I can probably fight for is +1 or losing out a lot on ammo count ; specialists should have non-output drawbacks for reduced fit cost. The isk prices also needs to be adjusted for all of them now that these drawbacks are getting put in. Either way stuff for feedback keep em coming well see what we can do for echo. This is untrue I run the g20 primarily and it used to have 3 round clip. I'll bring it up then again; specialists losing half a mag is a bit unfair its usually a shot at most for the majority of weapons that have such variants. but it generally hasn't gone up and over or close to 50%. Another thing I will try to push forward is the isk cost balancing now that most of the variants of specialist equipment do feature a drawback of sorts. The need to keep nerfed variants more expensive is a poor justification. On modules with no drawbacks I can understand the need. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1942	Posted - 2014.09.25 11:23:00 - [50] - Quote bogeyman m wrote: Small eHP buff to all Minmatar suits *except* Logis? Is this an oversite? As intended. Minlogi HP scaled correctly relative to other logis, other min suits did not relative to their non-min counterparts so were buffed.

Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1942	Posted - 2014.09.25 11:27:00 - [51] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks for the initiative, I will support this thread with more detail. Rifle details please, even at the level of just saying 'YES' or 'NO' to whether each of the following actually happened: AR - tiny hipfire kick reduction BrAR - 14% dam buff, zoom dispersion reduction BuAR - 2% dam buff, tiny hipfire kick reduction Tac AR - RoF buff, hipfire kick reduction, hipfire dispersion decrease CR - damage profile change ACR - 4% dam buff, dispersion increase, damage profile change RR - hipfire kick increase ARR - no change ScR - RoF nerf, tiny hipfire kick increase AScR - unintended RoF decrease awaiting correction, no other changes
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 112	Posted - 2014.09.25 11:43:00 - [52] - Quote So the Bolt pistol was already the most reloadiest weapon ingame..... now it's a 4 shot.... I know revolvers come in 4 n 5 shot models.... But who buys those honestly? "Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16691	Posted - 2014.09.25 19:02:00 - [53] - Quote Devadander wrote: So the Bolt pistol was already the most reloadiest weapon ingame..... now it's a 4 shot.... I know revolvers come in 4 n 5 shot models.... But who buys those honestly? Same reason why people would pick a 6 shot revolver over a magazine fed gun with 10-15 shots CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1766	Posted - 2014.09.25 19:14:00 - [54] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks for the initiative, I will support this thread with more detail. Officer Weapon Stats. Yea please! Would love to get my hands on some of the more unique officer weaps. Has anyone received any as loot yet? "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Atiim 12502	Posted - 2014.09.25 19:37:00 - [55] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks for the initiative, I will support this thread with more detail. Can you support it with a sticky? The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2139	Posted - 2014.09.25 19:55:00 - [56] - Quote Devadander wrote: So the Bolt pistol was already the most reloadiest weapon ingame..... now it's a 4 shot.... I know revolvers come in 4 n 5 shot models.... But who buys those honestly? Revolvers make better murder weapons because they don't leave casings as evidence and their firing mechanism won't be hindered much if the weapon is concealed. The more you know!!! Dust was real! I was there!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16702	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:09:00 - [57] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Devadander wrote: So the Bolt pistol was already the most reloadiest weapon ingame..... now it's a 4 shot.... I know revolvers come in 4 n 5 shot models.... But who buys those honestly? Revolvers make better murder weapons because they don't leave casings as evidence and their firing mechanism won't be hindered much if the weapon is concealed. The more you know!!! Silk cartoshoniar beeswax capped miniball will get you the same effect. :D Meanwhile railtech weapons use darts there are no casings to begin with unless the round has been sabot. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Not Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 99	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:20:00 - [58] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Devadander wrote: So the Bolt pistol was already the most reloadiest weapon ingame..... now it's a 4 shot.... I know revolvers come in 4 n 5 shot models.... But who buys those honestly? Revolvers make better murder weapons because they don't leave casings as evidence and their firing mechanism won't be hindered much if the weapon is concealed. The more you know!!! Silk cartoshoniar beeswax capped miniball will get you the same effect. :D Meanwhile railtech weapons use darts there are no casings to begin with unless the round has been sabot. Who knew IWS was a hitman? Try the new Planetary Conquest Mode!
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 461	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:26:00 - [59] - Quote I think you have a typo because forge gun splash should of increased. Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 461	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:52:00 - [60] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber + CCP Rattati wrote: Forge Gun splash does 0 damage I been holding a candle for this game for a long time. After 388 days of consecutive logins and support. I never wanted to quit and walk away from this game more then i do at this point. The Caldari Forge gun needed a micro bump to splash. CPM and Rattati I feel like you failed me and just utterly disappointed. Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16713	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:58:00 - [61] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Iron Wolf Saber + CCP Rattati wrote: Forge Gun splash does 0 damage I been holding a candle for this game for a long time. After 388 days of consecutive logins and support. I never wanted to quit and walk away from this game more then i do at this point. The Caldari Forge gun needed a micro bump to splash. CPM and Rattati I feel like you failed me and just utterly disappointed. As a profiliant forge sniper, I never needed the splash to kill anything ever and just about every other forge sniper has told me this. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 461	Posted - 2014.09.25 23:43:00 - [62] - Quote That's not how the gun was used in Closed and Open beta, Great weapon for clearing equipment and groups of troops. I detest with every ounce of my being that people like you think a gun with that much force and impact should do little to no splash damage at all. Months ago your attitude about the forge was no better than it is today. As much work you do as second term CPM little things like this makes me double guess your calls as player representation. I respect what you do but the forge was balanced back when team view was removed. I stand by the ROF and Splash need to be rolled back a tad bit. Most of the true forge gunners moved on from the game when the animation was changed to the ball of energy instead of the jet trails. It's now a far different gun and if you were going to make a change in the positive the return of the zoom will be a welcomed feature. At least the gun will have something interesting returned. This gun has seen nothing but major nerfs over its lifetime and I'm sick of it. Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4
TritusX PH4NT0M5 28	Posted - 2014.09.25 23:48:00 - [63] - Quote I was disappointed to see that the starting skills are taken straight from the starting 500k. That means I can't make alts with a Amarr Assault and a CRW ScR and run around academy Scout 514 forever
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16720	Posted - 2014.09.26 03:09:00 - [64] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: That's not how the gun was used in Closed and Open beta, Great weapon for clearing equipment and groups of troops. I detest with every ounce of my being that people like you think a gun with that much force and impact should do little to no splash damage at all. Months ago your attitude about the forge was no better than it is today. As much work you do as second term CPM little things like this makes me double guess your calls as player representation. I respect what you do but the forge was balanced back when team view was removed. I stand by the ROF and Splash need to be rolled back a tad bit. Most of the true forge gunners moved on from the game when the animation was changed to the ball of energy instead of the jet trails. It's now a far different gun and if you were going to make a change in the positive the return of the zoom will be a welcomed feature. At least the gun will have something interesting returned. This gun has seen nothing but major nerfs over its lifetime and I'm sick of it. Stop abusing it for the wrong reasons then; primary function is AV still. Also get better with forge sniping its stupid easy to wipe out swathes of nests with the forge provided you have the ammo for it. And if you are really needing that splash there is the assault variant still CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16724	Posted - 2014.09.26 03:53:00 - [65] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Iron Wolf Saber + CCP Rattati wrote: Forge Gun splash does 0 damage I been holding a candle for this game for a long time. After 388 days of consecutive logins and support. I never wanted to quit and walk away from this game more then i do at this point. The Caldari Forge gun needed a micro bump to splash. CPM and Rattati I feel like you failed me and just utterly disappointed. If you want splash get a mass driver. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16726	Posted - 2014.09.26 04:02:00 - [66] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Iron Wolf Saber + CCP Rattati wrote: Forge Gun splash does 0 damage I been holding a candle for this game for a long time. After 388 days of consecutive logins and support. I never wanted to quit and walk away from this game more then i do at this point. The Caldari Forge gun needed a micro bump to splash. CPM and Rattati I feel like you failed me and just utterly disappointed. If you want splash get a mass driver. or an assault forge gun. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
A Gentleman Scumbag 7	Posted - 2014.09.26 04:03:00 - [67] - Quote Aye IWS I am seeing double here. Yes, I am quite fond of my Assault driver Minmando fit.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16728	Posted - 2014.09.26 08:51:00 - [68] - Quote Not Jadek Menaheim wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Devadander wrote: So the Bolt pistol was already the most reloadiest weapon ingame..... now it's a 4 shot.... I know revolvers come in 4 n 5 shot models.... But who buys those honestly? Revolvers make better murder weapons because they don't leave casings as evidence and their firing mechanism won't be hindered much if the weapon is concealed. The more you know!!! Silk cartoshoniar beeswax capped miniball will get you the same effect. :D Meanwhile railtech weapons use darts there are no casings to begin with unless the round has been sabot. Who knew IWS was a hitman? Slight problem with this method. Most guns that fire this are exotic enough of a fingerprint as well as the tools required to make the rounds as well; one warrent of your tool making room and its over. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 593	Posted - 2014.09.26 09:47:00 - [69] - Quote Very nice thread. IWS and Rattati, did the Scrambler heat build up become damage per shot? LordSmash and I were running testing today, and he noticed a significant lessening in his shots, but he didn't mind. CEO of GODS AMONG MEN/ Code name: Kronos Friendships are forged by war, enemies by peace Stars Wars Fan4ever, BFront3
bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 416	Posted - 2014.09.26 17:27:00 - [70] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: bogeyman m wrote: Small eHP buff to all Minmatar suits *except* Logis? Is this an oversite? As intended. Minlogi HP scaled correctly relative to other logis, other min suits did not relative to their non-min counterparts so were buffed. Then can I haz 2 more PG on the Min Logi Advanced suit? That would help make a sweet budget fit. Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.

Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 219	Posted - 2014.09.26 18:22:00 - [71] - Quote since there is no mention of extra kick when ads with the scrambler rifle, is it supposed to kick up like a donkey on crack now when letting loose as fast as you can? lets just burn this motherfucker down pew pew goes my scram rifle zap zap goes my scram pistol vizzzzzzz goes my laser
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16854	Posted - 2014.09.28 10:44:00 - [72] - Quote Adding information from here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2381419#post2381419 give me a moment. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16854	Posted - 2014.09.28 11:05:00 - [73] - Quote Okay all done. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked


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