DUST Search - Delta Supply depot range fail

CCP Rattati wrote:

DELB0Y wrote:

If any of the dust devs are reading this I would like to point out that I was excited to read that the range on the supply depot was being increased as it would fix the issue of not being able to resupply my tank at all of the sockets in this game. I'm sorry to say this was not the case and I'm disappointed that this long standing issue has still not been noticed by yourselves in playtesting as it leads to some maps being asymmetrical in terms of being able to rearm ground vehicles. If you devs are still blind to which socket cant rearm tanks it is the one with the supply depot on the first floor. Here's hoping that you fix this very soon and not leave it to the next hotfix. Many thanks and a bluetag would be appreciated Ratatti or similarly capable dev.

Example location on Border Gulch 5, H. of an inaccessible supply depot for ground vehicles.

The home socket to the west of 5, H doesn't have a supply depot but the home point on the opposing side DOES have a supply depot.

Its the little things like this that lead me to suspect CCP didn't thoroughly playtest the maps. Here's hoping this helps you CCP.

Thanks, sadly we can't move depots as they are baked into the maps, and changing those requires a patch.

On another topic, you mentioned in another thread that Depots range did not increase. Is that verified. Because we changed one number, from 16m to 26m and it should certainly not have decreased.

You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?

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DELB0Y 32	Posted - 2014.09.24 15:29:00 - [1] - Quote If any of the dust devs are reading this I would like to point out that I was excited to read that the range on the supply depot was being increased as it would fix the issue of not being able to resupply my tank at all of the sockets in this game. I'm sorry to say this was not the case and I'm disappointed that this long standing issue has still not been noticed by yourselves in playtesting as it leads to some maps being asymmetrical in terms of being able to rearm ground vehicles. If you devs are still blind to which socket cant rearm tanks it is the one with the supply depot on the first floor. Here's hoping that you fix this very soon and not leave it to the next hotfix. Many thanks and a bluetag would be appreciated Ratatti or similarly capable dev. You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
iKILLu osborne Z PLATOON CALDARI STATE PEACEMAKERS 330	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:01:00 - [2] - Quote oh dear lord of all people delboy i thought you would know how -_- if it is on the buliding(s) with the curved walls ,get to the outside, ram the wall with the corner of your tank you will start to ride up it and you can resupply that way but don't go up to quick you may flip. if it is in a conclave surrounded by the railing get to the u-shaped part (where infantry jump over to hack the depot) same principle but is very easy to get your tank stuck on the railing so i would just suggest calling and recalling. the undrground depot i have seen a tank down there one time i'm still asking "how?" today edit: i only run maddys idk if it possible with gunnlogi i'm willing to demonstrate if need be lp cal scout i demand it
DELB0Y 33	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:13:00 - [3] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: oh dear lord of all people delboy i thought you would know how -_- if it is on the buliding(s) with the curved walls ,get to the outside, ram the wall with the corner of your tank you will start to ride up it and you can resupply that way but don't go up to quick you may flip. if it is in a conclave surrounded by the railing get to the u-shaped part (where infantry jump over to hack the depot) same principle but is very easy to get your tank stuck on the railing so i would just suggest calling and recalling. the undrground depot i have seen a tank down there one time i'm still asking "how?" today edit: i only run maddys idk if it possible with gunnlogi i'm willing to demonstrate if need be Tried it, cant do it, I must suck. Not the point shouldn't have to do balls like this. These are the kind of things I'd like improved in the game. I noticed over the MCC event there were 3 separate threads in general that were on the subject off boosters and when and how to use them all of which had blue tags. It is completely clear what type of questions Ratatti and the like are mandated to answer and it isn't questions like mine. Keep buying boosters though kids you're keeping Ratatti in a job. Getting real tired of waiting on Legion, getting sick and tired of CCP failing to fix things that matter personally to me in this game. Ratatti if I buy a booster would you fix my long list of tank related problems I have with this game please? You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
iKILLu osborne Z PLATOON CALDARI STATE PEACEMAKERS 330	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:19:00 - [4] - Quote read my sig bro i been waiting since day 1 of 1.8 , finally they said they would add it in delta, then another dev broke my heart. as for the tank ride you have to get the right angle if you ram it head on you just look like a mental kid banging his head. i'm getting online in a sec send me invite and i will demonstrate, i have no mic bewarned lp cal scout i demand it
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 804	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:23:00 - [5] - Quote Osborne, point is you shouldn't have to do random and crazy manoeuvres just to resupply ammunition. Alt of Halla Murr.
DELB0Y 34	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:37:00 - [6] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Osborne, point is you shouldn't have to do random and crazy manoeuvres just to resupply ammunition. This You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
DELB0Y 34	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:52:00 - [7] - Quote bump You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
DELB0Y 34	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:54:00 - [8] - Quote DELB0Y wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Osborne, point is you shouldn't have to do random and crazy manoeuvres just to resupply ammunition. This bump You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5189	Posted - 2014.09.24 20:56:00 - [9] - Quote o/ Pilot You should locate the map image from Map Design / Feedback for the playmode in question and specify the grid coordinates of the problem you're describing. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
DELB0Y 35	Posted - 2014.09.24 21:02:00 - [10] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: o/ Pilot You should locate the map image from Map Design / Feedback for the playmode in question and specify the grid coordinates of the problem you're describing. Cant find what you are talking about, sorry, link? Edit: found it thanks dude. Would be nice to have heard that from a dev though. You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?

DELB0Y 36	Posted - 2014.09.25 14:36:00 - [11] - Quote bump You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
DELB0Y 37	Posted - 2014.09.26 12:22:00 - [12] - Quote bump You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
DELB0Y 37	Posted - 2014.09.26 22:13:00 - [13] - Quote bump You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
DELB0Y 37	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:28:00 - [14] - Quote bump You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1789	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:36:00 - [15] - Quote Totally agree. Its frustrating being in a vehicle and not even being able to get in a position to resupply at a depot. I spoke with IWS about this, I mentioned if it was possible to change the mechanic of the supply depots to the mechanic of a nano hive. Supply depots apparently only affect a 2d area where as nano hives a 3d space. If the supply depots were supplying out in 3 dimensions it would alleviate pretty much all of the problems that I can see. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
DELB0Y 37	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:44:00 - [16] - Quote I agree, I'm waiting on a dev for confirmation if this is possible to change and if they will do it. I am a bit worried though that if a dev has no intention of fixing a known issue they wont reply to it. You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1791	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:49:00 - [17] - Quote DELB0Y wrote: I agree, I'm waiting on a dev for confirmation if this is possible to change and if they will do it. I am a bit worried though that if a dev has no intention of fixing a known issue they wont reply to it. I'm just thinking, as an easy fix for Rattati, could he not just change one or two of the ground installations at the main bases on the problem maps into another supply depot? That might be a bit easier to do back end perhaps. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
DELB0Y 41	Posted - 2014.09.29 22:47:00 - [18] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: DELB0Y wrote: I agree, I'm waiting on a dev for confirmation if this is possible to change and if they will do it. I am a bit worried though that if a dev has no intention of fixing a known issue they wont reply to it. I'm just thinking, as an easy fix for Rattati, could he not just change one or two of the ground installations at the main bases on the problem maps into another supply depot? That might be a bit easier to do back end perhaps. Yeah it would be a start. But still not properly addressing the problem imo You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8279	Posted - 2014.09.30 00:22:00 - [19] - Quote DELB0Y wrote: If any of the dust devs are reading this I would like to point out that I was excited to read that the range on the supply depot was being increased as it would fix the issue of not being able to resupply my tank at all of the sockets in this game. I'm sorry to say this was not the case and I'm disappointed that this long standing issue has still not been noticed by yourselves in playtesting as it leads to some maps being asymmetrical in terms of being able to rearm ground vehicles. If you devs are still blind to which socket cant rearm tanks it is the one with the supply depot on the first floor. Here's hoping that you fix this very soon and not leave it to the next hotfix. Many thanks and a bluetag would be appreciated Ratatti or similarly capable dev. Example location on Border Gulch 5, H. of an inaccessible supply depot for ground vehicles. The home socket to the west of 5, H doesn't have a supply depot but the home point on the opposing side DOES have a supply depot. Its the little things like this that lead me to suspect CCP didn't thoroughly playtest the maps. Here's hoping this helps you CCP. Thanks, sadly we can't move depots as they are baked into the maps, and changing those requires a patch. On another topic, you mentioned in another thread that Depots range did not increase. Is that verified. Because we changed one number, from 16m to 26m and it should certainly not have decreased. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public.Disorder. 639	Posted - 2014.09.30 02:31:00 - [20] - Quote I still have to land my dropship on top of or nearly touching the sides of a depot to get resupplied.

Stile451 Red Star. EoN. 358	Posted - 2014.09.30 04:12:00 - [21] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: I still have to land my dropship on top of or nearly touching the sides of a depot to get resupplied. I find this is true for me as well. I have even landed on top of supply depots and not been resupplied.
DELB0Y 43	Posted - 2014.09.30 04:50:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: DELB0Y wrote: If any of the dust devs are reading this I would like to point out that I was excited to read that the range on the supply depot was being increased as it would fix the issue of not being able to resupply my tank at all of the sockets in this game. I'm sorry to say this was not the case and I'm disappointed that this long standing issue has still not been noticed by yourselves in playtesting as it leads to some maps being asymmetrical in terms of being able to rearm ground vehicles. If you devs are still blind to which socket cant rearm tanks it is the one with the supply depot on the first floor. Here's hoping that you fix this very soon and not leave it to the next hotfix. Many thanks and a bluetag would be appreciated Ratatti or similarly capable dev. Example location on Border Gulch 5, H. of an inaccessible supply depot for ground vehicles. The home socket to the west of 5, H doesn't have a supply depot but the home point on the opposing side DOES have a supply depot. Its the little things like this that lead me to suspect CCP didn't thoroughly playtest the maps. Here's hoping this helps you CCP. Thanks, sadly we can't move depots as they are baked into the maps, and changing those requires a patch. On another topic, you mentioned in another thread that Depots range did not increase. Is that verified. Because we changed one number, from 16m to 26m and it should certainly not have decreased. Thanks for the reply dude. I don't remember saying the range has decreased but on a particular socket (9,D Impact ridge) has a sunken supply depot that is sometimes accessible (but mostly not and location specific) by going right up to the corner notch in the railings, I thought this depot would at least have been fixed by the range increase but was sad to see it was just as unpredictable as ever. Would it be possible to change the zone of influence of the depots from 2d to spherical 3d? That would fix all the supply depot problems at once. Thanks again for the reply. Not many full time tankers left in the game, and anything that aids us to provide timely infantry support is very much appreciated. P.S. did you ever figure out why my tanks fall though the bottom of the map 80% of the time when I pull up the overhead map whilst parked in any socket? And is it fixable? You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2886	Posted - 2014.09.30 09:52:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Thanks, sadly we can't move depots as they are baked into the maps, and changing those requires a patch. On another topic, you mentioned in another thread that Depots range did not increase. Is that verified. Because we changed one number, from 16m to 26m and it should certainly not have decreased. Range seems to be plane and not spherical. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" LOCK REGIONS

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8299	Posted - 2014.09.30 10:16:00 - [24] - Quote Spherical plane - Known issue Socket overview sinking - Known issue I don't know, at the moment, how hard or whether possible to fix. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

CLONE ALPHA 001 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 36	Posted - 2014.09.30 10:33:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: DELB0Y wrote: If any of the dust devs are reading this I would like to point out that I was excited to read that the range on the supply depot was being increased as it would fix the issue of not being able to resupply my tank at all of the sockets in this game. I'm sorry to say this was not the case and I'm disappointed that this long standing issue has still not been noticed by yourselves in playtesting as it leads to some maps being asymmetrical in terms of being able to rearm ground vehicles. If you devs are still blind to which socket cant rearm tanks it is the one with the supply depot on the first floor. Here's hoping that you fix this very soon and not leave it to the next hotfix. Many thanks and a bluetag would be appreciated Ratatti or similarly capable dev. Example location on Border Gulch 5, H. of an inaccessible supply depot for ground vehicles. The home socket to the west of 5, H doesn't have a supply depot but the home point on the opposing side DOES have a supply depot. Its the little things like this that lead me to suspect CCP didn't thoroughly playtest the maps. Here's hoping this helps you CCP. Thanks, sadly we can't move depots as they are baked into the maps, and changing those requires a patch. On another topic, you mentioned in another thread that Depots range did not increase. Is that verified. Because we changed one number, from 16m to 26m and it should certainly not have decreased. so make a patch! i dont get why you guys are so adverse to doing patches? fix your ******* game mate! stop being lazy CCP
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3303	Posted - 2014.09.30 10:34:00 - [26] - Quote Is it possible to have a non baked depot drop in an accessible spot at say... 1 minute for each team? The actual static depots may be baked in, but how about dropping "deployables" a la OMS? Two depots per side in redline inaccessible to enemy AV doesn't seem unreasonable.
DELB0Y 45	Posted - 2014.09.30 13:14:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Spherical plane - Known issue Socket overview sinking - Known issue I don't know, at the moment, how hard or whether possible to fix. Thanks for the reply. Socket overhang sinking is the falling through the map I'm assuming. Its a really annoying issue. I'm helping out on the point on say the Biomass facility and I hear an RDV near the enemy redline. Ideally I would just like to call up the map to see if I can see if there's any vehicles on there way to me but at the moment I gotta leave the team behind and leave the socket to check the overhead map or risk getting my backside molested by an enemy tank. Which is never fun. Here's hoping you guys have some luck with that issue. The tank AV balance is in a good challenging state atm imo, great work chaps. P.S. one thing I would suggest is not nerfing ADS' any further. Because the player base has shrunken so low now, everybody uses the same tactics. 100% of the time maps devolve into who can get the spawn uplinks on tall builds above/near the point quickest (on Domination). All I see these days is AV spawning on top of buildings. And the ONLY way to remove them is with a dropship depending on the awereness/skill of the AVers up on a towers guarding the spawn pads they have every advantage in most maps to keep those pads guarded from the dropships that could destroy them which basically leads to constant one sided stomps. Which is all I see these days, and I play ALOT. Anything your people could do to stop this one tactic from constantly being employed would drastically change the flow and feel of the games we all play way more than any weapon/suit balance ever could. Games are becoming so stale because of it. Thanks for listening. You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
Stile451 Red Star. EoN. 359	Posted - 2014.09.30 15:06:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Spherical plane - Known issue Socket overview sinking - Known issue I don't know, at the moment, how hard or whether possible to fix. Any chance of changing it to cylindrical?
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 38	Posted - 2014.09.30 17:26:00 - [29] - Quote Would it be possible to make nanohives resupply vehicles' ammo as well as infantry? In Border Gulch, there is no depot which my squad has been able to use if driving in a gunlogi due to them being on the first floor. Why can't nanohives be used? If they can be altered to work for vehicles, would that not be a good stop-gap until a patch can be done to sort the problem with the supply depot?
Kaeru Nayiri Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 54	Posted - 2014.09.30 19:56:00 - [30] - Quote DELB0Y wrote: [...]100% of the time maps devolve into who can get the spawn uplinks on tall builds above/near the point quickest (on Domination). All I see these days is AV spawning on top of buildings. And the ONLY way to remove them is with a dropship depending on the awereness/skill of the AVers up on a towers guarding the spawn pads they have every advantage in most maps to keep those pads guarded from the dropships that could destroy them which basically leads to constant one sided stomps. Which is all I see these days, and I play A LOT. If you're interested in this game feeling fresh anything your people could do to stop this one tactic from constantly being employed would drastically change the flow and feel of the games that we all play way more than any weapon/suit balance ever could. Games are becoming so stale because of it. Thanks for listening. this +1



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