Scouts run around invisible, walk up to somebody hit a button once or twice to get a kill. The rest of us use cover and actual aiming skills. Take off the training wheels, and play the fps the rest of us are.

You can't listen to anything gavr1lo says there is something wrong with that guy. I am a scout I one shot most people with a mil shotgun 3 shots for heavys.

1). The cloak isn't invisible, and neither are scouts.
2). By once or twice, do you mean 3-6 times? Because thats a lot more accurate. Add that to the fact that we have to strafe our skinny asses off once the first shot hits or we die, and you get a lot more than "hit a button once or twice"
3). Scouts need to aim more than any other class because every shot needs to hit or we die.
4). I took off the training wheels by stopping using Heavy frames and Assaults, because after taking a break for a while I do find it satisfying to EZ mode the first few matches until my aim gets good enough again to use a SG.
5). I am playing the fps that you and everyone else on this thread does--Its called DUST 514.

Just because you have to aim a bit more does not mean you should be near impossible to detect by anything other than a scout. Scouts have too many options and it should change.

The only thing that makes scouts OP is their ability to walk around cloaked and get free kills.

In their current form, they need a delay between cloaking and being able to shoot, I say 5 seconds, other people say 2 seconds, but a delay is needed.

But the real problem behind the scout class is the utter lack of vision.

Do we NEED another slayer oriented class? Or do we need a proper recon/spy class?

Wouldn't it be nice to drop uplinks behind enemy lines undetected? Perform scans? Lay a minefield? All while cloaked? Being able to hack while cloaked is a good start to making the scout class more of a sneaky saboteur/spy, but CCP stopped there and did the easy thing.

The lack of a proper delay after decloak is one of the few things WRONG with scouts, but there could be so much more RIGHT with them.

the real issue is that

1. scout gets their EWAR bonus to its base stats instead of EWAR mods.
2. damps are more powerful than precision enhancers which by design is already a huge flaw.
3. there is no counter mod to range amps, if there was an equipment that would lower sensor radius for anyone for a short time around the dropsuit it would not be that bad as it is now.

Anything can detect a scout, even a militia medium frame with no modules equipped.

Every suit in the game has access to this ridiculously overpowered tool, simply known as "Eyes".

Actually I wouldn't consider damps being more powerful a flaw.

The ability to scan is HUGELY powerful, scouts get most of their power over assaults from this feature alone.
Damps are really the only way to avoid the legal wall hacks that is scanning.


That is the one feature that really pisses me off when I play as a scout, because it feels like I'm being handed intel I should gather with my own eyes and ears, or through the use of equipment (which is limited, meaning I only get a snapshot once in a while).
It really is one of my most hated features in DUST.

If you can three shot a heavy, then they are a basic heavy standing still with perfect hit detection going for you.