As far as scanners the bonus is useless you can use one damp with bonus and be detectable at 24db or you can use two and be undetectable. They should just raise scouts natural db to assault lvs 50db requiring 3 slots or two slots with bonus to be undetectable. I still think think they would be better off with two side arm slots defining the class... bad asses own people with side arms.... just saying being retardeadly OP isn't impressive.

Edit 2: This is not counting the cloak field cloaked bonus the bonus mentioned above was suit bonus so even with two pro damps while cloaked they would be undetectable. Someone mentioned this earlier I just added some numbers.

Edit: No one take Retardeadly that is going to be the name of my next toon.

You can't make side arm only work with out stealth and non detection talk about imbalance. You guys talk about defining the pilot role in a way that would in no way be combat effective without a armor. Yet defend the ability to play every role as a scout it's an outrageous case of don't nerf me bro.

So most would agree that a Scout should dedicate his fits to Ewar to benefit the 'Scout' side of their role,
And more than most will agree scouts should have a harder time tanking up then what they have
Then we have those who would complain Ewar mods are of little use outside of Scout suits..

So combining these into something to potentially balance Scout fittings

- Reduce fiiting (CPU) on scout suits

- Reduce fitting cost of EWAR modules (make the differnce from basic/complex small)

This would leave Scouts in a position where they have no choice but to fit up in a way that allows

- Weaponry and EWAR

- Survivability and EWAR

But due to less fitting available, Weaponry and Survivability both being on a Scout fit would be eliminated,
the Ewar mods become used by all Scouts (lowering HP tanks) and with the lower fitting cost of EWAR
They become less of an expense to Medium/Heavy frames which is fair seen as they are inneffective

... So this would surely be hotfixable.. but what is the player and CCP opinion on this..?

Please don't turn my thread into a 'Sidearm Scout' thread..
To the Dust players unfamiliar with Scouting....... NO

Running a sidearm setup is 'fun' gives you decent CQ firepower and is a challenge
With the layout of combat Scouts should not be confined to Sidearms ..

- The plates penalty is an option imo - encourage ferros/reactive

- TTK went crazy so bricktanking has been 'forced' on a lot of suits.. that is one issue for Scout suits
300ehp is a short trip to the Reanimation Unit Vs wary opponents, so it encourages brick tanking
I think something to limit a scouts total ehp to about 500 if the fitting was HP tanked would help
to balance out a lot of Scout Vs Scout fights and Scouts Vs Everyone else ... maybe

-thoughts?

The only time I could ever see a sidearm-only suit being implemented is what Cross Atu mentioned and that's the pilot suit since a pilot isn't necessarily a foot soldier due to the operational environment in which the pilot is in. A sidearm-only suit is a good idea for this role since the pilot that's bailing out of a doomed vehicle will at least have some way of fighting back while trying to retreat. Besides, a cockpit isn't necessarily a roomy place to store something as big as a light weapon.

What about minmitar scouts?
We have no eWar bonuses, so reducing fitting capacity would not be a good way to go for them.

Also, gg on those PC's earlier.

I was playing for a friend who needed to hit 10 matches, and i think i killed you a few times.

The only time I could ever see a sidearm-only suit being implemented is what Cross Atu mentioned and that's the pilot suit since a pilot isn't necessarily a foot soldier due to the operational environment in which the pilot is in. A sidearm-only suit is a good idea for this role since the pilot that's bailing out of a doomed vehicle will at least have some way of fighting back while trying to retreat. Besides, a cockpit isn't necessarily a roomy place to store something as big as a light weapon.