As a scout (I run without a cloak) - I can tell you that in most cases my kills occur due to my dampening (ie - I am not on your TAC).

The cloaked scouts are a problem if your running headlong into them and not paying attention . In all likelyhood, they probably would be dampened to you and would have shot you anyway if you were facing the other way.

The only real answer is to run with a group. Else, become a scout , and get the necessary modules to be able to see the enemy scouts.

The flying pirouette is possibly the most frustrating and deadly maneuver a SG scout will have to deal with. Sprint forward and jump while turning backwards, and spray and pray like your life depends on it while continuing to backpedal and jump back and forth.

Its difficult to hit people in CQC with the SG, so movement will work to your benefit, as well as having a high RoF weapon with you.

Wait what decloak sound, everytime if im shooted by shotiescout there is not decloak sound, just shot.

What do I need to do to survive an encounter with a shot gun scout who gets the drop on me? Most of my deaths these days come by way of shot gun to the back at which point I turn around to be shot from the front resulting in my death, as an assault I don't see the cloaked scout until it's to late, what evasive maneuvers should I take?

I've tried running backwards shooting, strafing, running away, stepping sideways, jumping at them, nothing works, the shotgun seems to be glued to my head once they get close enough. what my doing wrong, why am I such an easy target?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJwVo_tFHY8 2:02 to 2:04

Honestly it nonsence, u have barelly two miliseconds to react this?!
Nope, in my eyes sound is not enough.
Hell even if that sound will be loud like hell you dot have a chance against shotie.
There should be a delay after decloaking for using any stuff.

CCP should make a cloaking device more tactical.

I know, that Sound and eye thingie is funny XD
But back to the issue, you understand that nondelay after decloaking is basicaly in eighty procent one free shot from any weapon for you?!
Hell i saw how one guy took own squad of four, just because cloak/shootie combo.
Balance should not be interfere by something what is basicaly big advantage.

I see that delay idea (what someones sent here before) actually like a good one, why not make a cloak more tactical (what cloak should be), because right now i see it like cheapshot.

What do you think?!

What do I need to do to survive an encounter with a shot gun scout who gets the drop on me? Most of my deaths these days come by way of shot gun to the back at which point I turn around to be shot from the front resulting in my death, as an assault I don't see the cloaked scout until it's to late, what evasive maneuvers should I take?

I've tried running backwards shooting, strafing, running away, stepping sideways, jumping at them, nothing works, the shotgun seems to be glued to my head once they get close enough. what my doing wrong, why am I such an easy target?

Run a heavy that can tank the first shot, then turn around and shoot them in the face.

Either that, or find a squad/group of blueberries, and stick together.

If you are alone, you are easy game.

The shotgun, cloak, scout is just a deadly combo. Now people who only play scout will tell you its your situational awareness that is the problem, the fact is a proto scout shotgun with a cloak is overpowered as hell. They can simply set somewhere in a corner and let you walk by then OHK you without fully decloaking. Its partly broken and partly overpowered.

My dust started off as a light then scout suited sniper and shotty type of guy so I have a few questions for pure-bred assault types.

1. Is it so unfair that a shotgun 1-3 shots a suit to death?
2. Sure the cloak makes shotty scouts definitely more viable but what other from your side of the spectrum what should be put into a scouts hand to make it the viable quick hitter while also being a support? (Combat Rif., smg, sniper,etc.) Different rof types.

I'm going to pull the obvious and and say CCP made this game and while it's still not fully implemented with everything they promised it's still fun from era to era BUT lag, mass numbers of uplinks while the scout is the naturally fast runner in this game and can get back in action quicker, and/or being in a pub stomped doesn't help the situation any better and until we get that focused then all I see is different stat based on 2 years of whining and (rarely) helping to get rid of a problem.

I can agree on assaults being the high-regen type suit in this game without mods but then weapons and I mean most weapons would definitely need a new looking at to try and even out damage take/HP return factor.

To the cloaks themselves lag, different servers, situation awareness (squad play), personal situation awareness (solo),and even personal mood while playing (please note that this is also a strategy and a random coincidence) can turn a simple cloak and wait/run into a "nerf bat that clutch in the ground" situation easily with some of (my opinion most nowadays) the so called community trying to "help" keep it alive.

There's a nickel can I have my change?

My dust started off as a light then scout suited sniper and shotty type of guy so I have a few questions for pure-bred assault types.

1. Is it so unfair that a shotgun 1-3 shots a suit to death?
2. Sure the cloak makes shotty scouts definitely more viable but what other from your side of the spectrum what should be put into a scouts hand to make it the viable quick hitter while also being a support? (Combat Rif., smg, sniper,etc.) Different rof types.

I'm going to pull the obvious and and say CCP made this game and while it's still not fully implemented with everything they promised it's still fun from era to era BUT lag, mass numbers of uplinks while the scout is the naturally fast runner in this game and can get back in action quicker, and/or being in a pub stomped doesn't help the situation any better and until we get that focused then all I see is different stat based on 2 years of whining and (rarely) helping to get rid of a problem.

I can agree on assaults being the high-regen type suit in this game without mods but then weapons and I mean most weapons would definitely need a new looking at to try and even out damage take/HP return factor.

To the cloaks themselves lag, different servers, situation awareness (squad play), personal situation awareness (solo),and even personal mood while playing (please note that this is also a strategy and a random coincidence) can turn a simple cloak and wait/run into a "nerf bat that clutch in the ground" situation easily with some of (my opinion most nowadays) the so called community trying to "help" keep it alive.

There's a nickel can I have my change?

Precision Enhancers on an Assault generally won't help you sniff out Scouts. You're better off running shields.

I'd have to disagree.

You'd be very very suprised at how many "scouts" don't even damp, let alone at least have the base skills.

I think issue (from my side of view) is more in big advantage what includes more factors (Stack, Speed, Cloak, Shoot).
Basically with scouts possibilities of stacking, speed and strafing and finally no delay between "turnoff" of cloaking device and shooting, whole that thingies seems right now like obviously great advantages of this class.
What is even more weird this is not a proper scout/recon, whole of gameplay what we have right now is better explained like stalkerish speed assaulting, that scouting/reconning.

My definition of scout/recon is more in proper army based core, what mean reconnaissance and field support without all that rush what i can see right now.

Why don't make scout more like proper scout, more tactical, more situational DA unit with EWAR possibilities.
Right now they are really powerful in core, from my side of view

They very fact you have to put scouts in quotes on that just shows it really only catches the fake scouts.

Only suit that would withstand 3 shots from a SG is a fully tanked out sentinal.
I dont consider that in itself to be unfair.

What does become annoying is that scouts can have good ehps, still be very fast, still have good ewar and also still have great damage output.

Adjustments still have to be made. Exactly what i am not really the one to say but scouts should not be able to do everything in the game so well no suit should really.
Each suit should have its own specialty based on race / suit type.

For example (because i play one often) the heavy / sentinal.
They are the CQC masters this is what they are supposed to do. Getting in close to a sentinal unless you have created a situation where you clearly have the upper hand is nearly suicide. They have great hps and good damage up close (assuming they are using a hmg).
Yes they can also function as semi long range snipers when good with a forge gun but this also has a very limited ammo capacity.
Myself I would love to see a heavy shotgun :) something that does 1.5x the damage of a light shotgun and extend the range out to 20m and leave every other aspect just the same :) But i bet everyone will say its OP despite the limitations the heavy suit comes with compared to a scout suit.

Sorry just venting my frustration on you all, I guess I know the answer to my problem already. I'm just sick of these bloody scouts killing me. Don't get me wrong, I kill my fair share of scouts but like I say, most of my deaths occur from cloaked scouts and shot gun.