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Sylwester Dziewiecki
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Posted - 2014.09.16 22:10:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:What do I need to do to survive an encounter with a shot gun scout who gets the drop on me? Most of my deaths these days come by way of shot gun to the back at which point I turn around to be shot from the front resulting in my death, as an assault I don't see the cloaked scout until it's to late, what evasive maneuvers should I take?
I've tried running backwards shooting, strafing, running away, stepping sideways, jumping at them, nothing works, the shotgun seems to be glued to my head once they get close enough. what my doing wrong, why am I such an easy target?
Most of the time you can detect them early if you have AScout/GLogi in your squad.
If you playing solo it is harder, easiest way is to be extremely cautious about searching spots where scouts can waiting for you in cloak - they have to get you in close so for example: keeping away from building corners is good advise, tracking all spots with your aim-cross as well is good to because as soon as you will target scout your aim will appear red as 'there is something hostile' there. Best way to avoid scouts is to stick to the group and avoid close quarters. DS3 aim-assist is set 'on' on cloaked targets, so sometimes you may not see terget but interfae will tell you that there is something as well.
If Scout will made decision to attack you, he will probably made mistake by hold his cloak to the last second. It's bad for him because de-cloak sound comes always before his ability to fire gun. If you are cautious on what you can hear in game, you can hear his de-cloak sound and by fast maneuver you can trick his DS3 aim-assist - that moment give you even chances with cloaker.. brick tank and you are on wining side - scout need at least 3 shots to kill you, and it is not easy when target know that you(scout) is there.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
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Posted - 2014.09.17 20:35:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Wait what decloak sound, everytime if im shooted by shotiescout there is not decloak sound, just shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJwVo_tFHY8 2:02 to 2:04
Gallente Speed Scout.
EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
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Posted - 2014.09.17 23:24:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Honestly it nonsence, u have barelly two miliseconds to react this?! Nope, in my eyes sound is not enough. Hell even if that sound will be loud like hell you dot have a chance against shotie. There should be a delay after decloaking for using any stuff. CCP should make a cloaking device more tactical.
Ooh, you know there are some players who manage to kill me while I'm sneaking on they back because they heard that fuckng de-cloak sound, and at the other side there are some people that do not react even when I putting second load in they chest.
How much HP you have is a big factor here - Militia guys die instantly.
(btw "Nope, in my eyes sound is not enough." sounds funny :P)
Gallente Speed Scout.
EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
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Posted - 2014.09.17 23:57:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:I know, that Sound and eye thingie is funny XD
But back to the issue, you understand that nondelay after decloaking is basicaly in eighty procent one free shot from any weapon for you?!
Hell i saw how one guy took own squad of four, just because cloak/shootie combo.
Balance should not be interfere by something what is basicaly big advantage.
I see that delay idea (what someones sent here before) actually like a good one, why not make a cloak more tactical (what cloak should be), because right now i see it like cheapshot.
What do you think?!
As a cloaker I do not like two things in cloaking mechanic:
1. DS3 aim-assist is ON on cloaked players.
2. Despite the fact that contours of Cloaked Scout that does not move are visible and detectable by person that pay attention to details, yet if someone point his aim-cross on that scout his aim-cross change color to red.
I'm ready to trade those 2 things for even a 5 second delay after decloak.
And I need to tell that cloaking is not so much dis balance right now as you tell - player that want to play stealth is fitted only in modules that do so, and because of it he has something like 240HP~ total. There have to be some extra circumstances to allow you to win 1vs2 with that, with not happen very often..
Gallente Speed Scout.
EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
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