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Soraya Xel wrote:

Turkevich wrote:

What will happen to these BPOs when/if Legion launches?

The inherent problem in this question, I think, is that Legion isn't a game yet, so they don't really know what will and won't be transferable. And if transferable, how things will transfer. But I would like to think any AUR purchases at bare minimum would be refunded back to AUR that you could spend again. In some things, particularly collectable/vanity things like suit skins, will be in some form hopefully transferable to Legion. With the clear disclaimer that no, CCP has not said anything on this ground for transfers, I'm recalling CCP Z's progression talk saying all suits were BPOs, so I wouldn't think transferring suit BPOs would be completely out of the question. It really depends what Legion actually is when it's launched.

ResistanceGTA wrote:

Whatever happened to, perhaps, maybe, being able to get BPOs of different races?

I think these might be in the range of possibility (noting that new variations of existing items is generally possible in hotfixes), this is a good thread to mention desires for these things.

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Haerr Legio DXIV 1316	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:28:00 - [31] - Quote lol. This SCOTTY has Super Cow Powers.
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 728	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:36:00 - [32] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Couldn't decide, so I liked all three... I'm such a failure. Can we bring back the Syndicate SMG too? I've been wanting that red camo for ages... and maybe some of the Templar gear! ... And I suddenly miss MAG again... Goes to sob in a corner Syndicate SMG yes as long as it had the Red body/Black highlights that it had before so i can have it on this char (only got it on my U.S account from Gamestop) because with my covenant c-1 and daemon shotgun it'd look pretty sweet all red and also the Daemon shottie should remain exclusive too. as for Templar stuff. you want it go buy the Second Decade collectors edition. you'd get the weapons as well as suits as well as some pretty eve stuff too. the templar stuff should be limited to the collectors edition. Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3233	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:37:00 - [33] - Quote Shooter Somewhere wrote: Miltita tankBPO please lol Yeah, don't expect this, like ever. BPO LAVs are probably the "best" BPOs in the game as it is, for how much free utility they give you. (I call BPO LAVs in like candy, probably use at least one every match.) BPO HAVs would be nuts. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Haerr Legio DXIV 1316	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:40:00 - [34] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Shooter Somewhere wrote: Miltita tankBPO please lol Yeah, don't expect this, like ever. BPO LAVs are probably the "best" BPOs in the game as it is, for how much free utility they give you. (I call BPO LAVs in like candy, probably use at least one every match.) BPO HAVs would be nuts. Speaking of the BPO lavs, how large part of all equivalent ISK value used from BPOs do they stand for? :) This SCOTTY has Super Cow Powers.
Karen San O.C.E.L.O.T. 0	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:41:00 - [35] - Quote I like Valor best of military suit
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11934	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:45:00 - [36] - Quote If you gave us racial variants of those skins (In my case Gal Medium and Gal Heavy) I would buy that shit up HARD. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3233	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:46:00 - [37] - Quote Haerr wrote: Speaking of the BPO lavs, how large part of all equivalent ISK value used from BPOs do they stand for? :) Probably a lot. I don't mind, they're free war point candy for my forge gun. ;) In a lot of cases, BPO LAVs probably don't take a lot from the possible ISK spent in a match though, because a lot of people just wouldn't call LAVs at all if they didn't have the BPO ones. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 433	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:51:00 - [38] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I don't believe anyone on the CPM would've been for this, if we believed DUST was dead, or soon to be dead. I see a better game than we've ever had before, and a higher average PCU than we've usually seen before. I think the game's in great shape right now, and getting better. When the devs have pretty much stated no new content ever, that they're just going to play with the backend excel sheet, it's safe to call Dust dead. It may be a little more fun to play with those excel sheet number tweaks, but games do not survive on that.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3233	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:54:00 - [39] - Quote Aran Abbas wrote: When the devs have pretty much stated no new content ever Can I ask where they stated that? CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2177	Posted - 2014.09.02 12:56:00 - [40] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I don't believe anyone on the CPM would've been for this, if we believed DUST was dead, or soon to be dead. I see a better game than we've ever had before, and a higher average PCU than we've usually seen before. I think the game's in great shape right now, and getting better. Who cares if you guys think the game is dead soon or not. CCP won't keep Dust alive because you say so, nor would people keep playing just because you say so. To me this is a sign of CCP getting desperate and/or trying to milk their players some more before it's too late. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.

Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 3952	Posted - 2014.09.02 13:01:00 - [41] - Quote Dat raven... "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 433	Posted - 2014.09.02 13:02:00 - [42] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Aran Abbas wrote: When the devs have pretty much stated no new content ever Can I ask where they stated that? You can, but I wouldn't be able to provide direct quotes without quite a bit of searching going back to the Legion announcement. I do believe it's common knowledge though that devs have been moved off Dust to Legion, that staff has been reduced across the board due to the whole WoD thing, that no market integration with EVE is coming, no PvE, and we're not even getting all racial heavy weapons and vehicles either to complete the packs. And neither would such investments be worth it with the current player numbers, even if they have increased 5%, 10% Don't get me wrong, Rattati is great, he's the best in fact. But he can't save this patient. It's life support until they turn the machine off.
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 728	Posted - 2014.09.02 13:24:00 - [43] - Quote Aran Abbas wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Aran Abbas wrote: When the devs have pretty much stated no new content ever Can I ask where they stated that? You can, but I wouldn't be able to provide direct quotes without quite a bit of searching going back to the Legion announcement. I do believe it's common knowledge though that devs have been moved off Dust to Legion, that staff has been reduced across the board due to the whole WoD thing, that no market integration with EVE is coming, no PvE, and we're not even getting all racial heavy weapons and vehicles either to complete the packs. And neither would such investments be worth it with the current player numbers, even if they have increased 5%, 10% Don't get me wrong, Rattati is great, he's the best in fact. But he can't save this patient. It's life support until they turn the machine off. Gotta admit i'm with Aran on this. the general attitude the devs have given out concerning DUST514s future hasn't been overly comforting. the main stage of all dust news at fanfest 2014 was a 15min presentation for Legion with no news about future content or patches for DUST. i think that pretty much says it all really. fanfest 2013 promised so much to us and a few months later the new vehicles that were introduced were removed instead of us seeign any new ones. the Drone Infestation PvE mode was teased 2yrs ago in a trailer and we've never seen anythign else of it. i'd more than likely buy these new suits just so i have something new to wear besides the other BPOs i have but i'd be more comfortable buying them if i knew they'd be moved over to Legion when its released Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
YAMEZsr mercz4hire 5	Posted - 2014.09.02 13:30:00 - [44] - Quote Cal valor MRCZ4HIRE CEO
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1456	Posted - 2014.09.02 13:31:00 - [45] - Quote Whatever happened to, perhaps, maybe, being able to get BPOs of different races? I remember talk of being able to exchange a BPO for an equivalent racial BPO. I guess that fell by the wayside/didn't make money. It was just talk though, probably just some forum speak from a Blue tag. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Turkevich Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 128	Posted - 2014.09.02 13:36:00 - [46] - Quote I love to collect BPOs but I don't see the point until CCP answers the following question. What will happen to these BPOs when/if Legion launches?
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 91	Posted - 2014.09.02 13:59:00 - [47] - Quote Hmm scout, logi, assault, sentinel...think there's a suit missing
roblox098 Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 6	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:03:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Sever BPOs: 'Sever' Sentinel A-I, 'Sever' Assault C-I, 'Sever' Logistics M-I and 'Sever' Scout G-I Standard Dropsuits [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oiSozHF.png[/IMG] "Like" this post if you want us to bring this BPO set back to the market! How much aur My corp : 4th best Dream corp : NS Best Corp : NS
JP Acuna Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 234	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:08:00 - [49] - Quote I'd really like to buy an assault G-I BPO
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3237	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:10:00 - [50] - Quote Turkevich wrote: What will happen to these BPOs when/if Legion launches? The inherent problem in this question, I think, is that Legion isn't a game yet, so they don't really know what will and won't be transferable. And if transferable, how things will transfer. But I would like to think any AUR purchases at bare minimum would be refunded back to AUR that you could spend again. In some things, particularly collectable/vanity things like suit skins, will be in some form hopefully transferable to Legion. With the clear disclaimer that no, CCP has not said anything on this ground for transfers, I'm recalling CCP Z's progression talk saying all suits were BPOs, so I wouldn't think transferring suit BPOs would be completely out of the question. It really depends what Legion actually is when it's launched. ResistanceGTA wrote: Whatever happened to, perhaps, maybe, being able to get BPOs of different races? I think these might be in the range of possibility (noting that new variations of existing items is generally possible in hotfixes), this is a good thread to mention desires for these things. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.

BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 2984	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:16:00 - [51] - Quote I want to buy these but what if they don't transfer to legion :o Regardless I'll give you $50 for all 12 suits :) supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 257	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:19:00 - [52] - Quote i want...I WANT "uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 3952	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:34:00 - [53] - Quote Would it be a lot to ask for different suits to be BPOs? Maybe a Caldari Logi? Or Minmatar sentinel? Or Amarr Scout? Or Gallente Assault? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9200	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:39:00 - [54] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Turkevich wrote: What will happen to these BPOs when/if Legion launches? The inherent problem in this question, I think, is that Legion isn't a game yet, so they don't really know what will and won't be transferable. And if transferable, how things will transfer. But I would like to think any AUR purchases at bare minimum would be refunded back to AUR that you could spend again. In some things, particularly collectable/vanity things like suit skins, will be in some form hopefully transferable to Legion. With the clear disclaimer that no, CCP has not said anything on this ground for transfers, I'm recalling CCP Z's progression talk saying all suits were BPOs, so I wouldn't think transferring suit BPOs would be completely out of the question. It really depends what Legion actually is when it's launched. ResistanceGTA wrote: Whatever happened to, perhaps, maybe, being able to get BPOs of different races? I think these might be in the range of possibility (noting that new variations of existing items is generally possible in hotfixes), this is a good thread to mention desires for these things. I'm confident CCP can pull it off especially with the transfer of these BPOs into Legion. Much of which some of us already purchased long ago. Hell, I still have the "Yellow Bottle" BPO. But anyways, I was under the impression that there would be no more BPOs coming to Dust because "they can potentially hurt the secondary market". Of course, now that the secondary market is out of the question for Dust, this might explain why CCP is revisiting BPOs. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 730	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:40:00 - [55] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Turkevich wrote: What will happen to these BPOs when/if Legion launches? The inherent problem in this question, I think, is that Legion isn't a game yet, so they don't really know what will and won't be transferable. And if transferable, how things will transfer. But I would like to think any AUR purchases at bare minimum would be refunded back to AUR that you could spend again. In some things, particularly collectable/vanity things like suit skins, will be in some form hopefully transferable to Legion. With the clear disclaimer that no, CCP has not said anything on this ground for transfers, I'm recalling CCP Z's progression talk saying all suits were BPOs, so I wouldn't think transferring suit BPOs would be completely out of the question. It really depends what Legion actually is when it's launched. ResistanceGTA wrote: Whatever happened to, perhaps, maybe, being able to get BPOs of different races? I think these might be in the range of possibility (noting that new variations of existing items is generally possible in hotfixes), this is a good thread to mention desires for these things. but by sayign that, doesn't that means that CCP have the option to include these BPOs in some form or another into legion? seeign as its in such an early stage, and now if they don't they would appear to be 'dicks' by not including them? seeing as a large amount of playerbase has purchased BPOs and in New Eden BPOs are a crucial element of the game, every item used in the game from the small ammo loaded into a frigs turrets to the outposts and titans themselves are built from a BPO. If manufacturing was included from the start it allows a fantastic oppertunity for CCP to have a way of both earning income from the game and enabling a good career for players who want to spend real money on it. If BPOs for all items are made available (as in EVE) but for AUR instead and players can refine modules from either pub matches, FW, PvE or even buying minerals/materials from the market (as in EVE) and put BPOs in to manufacture suits/wepaons and sell them on the market it allows new players to spend a little real money and buy a BPO and as they progress they can manufacture the items from their earnings so they can either use them when they skill into them or sell them on the market for isk. Corporations could provide cheap fully ready suits to new players as incentives to join, just as the corps in eve do with frigates ect. the player market and manufacturing element would make DUST/Legion far more interactive and less of a grind for new players if they could earn a bit of semi passive isk by manufacturing and selling items. If the BPOs we have now are turned into the typical BPO we know and love in new Eden and we have to build consumable items from them it reassures players that buying them would be a good investment if they intend on playing Legion because they will have BPOs ready for manufacturing and that from the get-go there is a good portion of the players who can start manufacturing for the player market and creating a good economy Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
Turkevich Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 129	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:41:00 - [56] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Turkevich wrote: What will happen to these BPOs when/if Legion launches? [snip] But I would like to think any AUR purchases at bare minimum would be refunded back to AUR that you could spend again. [snip] I don't think a statement like that is out of the question and that would be a perfectly acceptable solution to me. They could preface the statement with "If Project Legion becomes a product..." to make the lawyers happy. Stop cutting CCP slack.
A-P-P-Baby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 90	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:52:00 - [57] - Quote How is it that Raven is beating Valor? I mean, I played MAG religiously and obviously as KEQ I voted for Valor right? But not because "loyalty" because they look awesome. I have the SVER logi. I want that dam green sentinel maaaaan I could tell right from the start of this post that the SVER would win on looks alone. But the Raven? They look so generic. Where's the spandex? At least they could come with a super soaker rocket launcher. How Valor isn't a close second with that unique green color is beyond me. They call me "Mr. Vacation"... I used to be relevant, but I learned to delegate so I could island hop
Evan Gotabor Prima Gallicus 56	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:54:00 - [58] - Quote I imagine that if you had gave us the possibility to have faction blueprint (4 dropsuits from the same race), I might have take a look at it... But there is nothing interesting here. Except for the faction pack (which need to see a little upgrade to integrate lacking dropsuits and weapons), you NEVER thought about players who are enjoying to play characters that respect their faction stuff (Amarr in particular have numerous adepts of this, but they arenGÇÖt alone). Prima Gallicus diplomat. Contact Hubert De LaBatte or me if you have business to do with us.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3239	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:56:00 - [59] - Quote Nirwanda, honestly, as far as I know, nothing is "set in stone" for Legion. So a lot is potentially possible, little is promise-able. I don't think CCP wants to make the mistake again of promising things it cannot deliver. Turkevich wrote: I don't think a statement like that is out of the question and that would be a perfectly acceptable solution to me. They could preface the statement with "If Project Legion becomes a product..." to make the lawyers happy. Personally, I think that's reasonable. If I were CCP, I might make a statement like that. But I'm not CCP. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7450	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:57:00 - [60] - Quote I would totally get a Valor suit if it included the G-1 Gallente Assault :( Oh well, you can't please them all. This is still a good idea though. Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel



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