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Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 832	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:13:00 - [1] - Quote 0% risk or reward my butt. Snipers are easy sitting targets. The only problem is heavy and super tanked Assault snipers. You know a sniper is UP when you can't even kill enemy snipers with headshots. You guys are just lazy and want the sniper to stay in the dirt just because you don't want to pick up the sniper and actually counter snipe. The last time I was killed by a sniper was literally a month ago. How sad, I have been killed more by flay locks and ion pistols than snipers. I remember a time when you had to be careful crossing large areas. Now even a militia scout can survive a direct hit from a Thales. I remember a time when you had to have a counter sniper in your squad because snipers were good but ever since they have been getting nerfed into the ground. Assault HP buff, Damage mod nerf, new crosshairs ect. ect. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4382	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:16:00 - [2] - Quote Back when snipers were a thing battles weren't filled with 80-90% solo players on each side. If snipers were as good as they were back then this would literally be Snipe 514. Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 711	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:34:00 - [3] - Quote Snipe 514 ended with removal of mountains. It's become Cloak and MAX EHP 514 most recently. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 832	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:42:00 - [4] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Back when snipers were a thing battles weren't filled with 80-90% solo players on each side. If snipers were as good as they were back then this would literally be Snipe 514. How good were they back then? *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 238	Posted - 2014.08.26 15:58:00 - [5] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Back when snipers were a thing battles weren't filled with 80-90% solo players on each side. If snipers were as good as they were back then this would literally be Snipe 514. How good were they back then? rediculous
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 396	Posted - 2014.08.26 16:01:00 - [6] - Quote Played a game last week where snake sellors went 52/0 big surprise HE LEFT THE REDLINE. Lonewolf till I die
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 617	Posted - 2014.08.26 17:13:00 - [7] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: 0% risk or reward my butt. Snipers are easy sitting targets. The only problem is heavy and super tanked Assault snipers. You know a sniper is UP when you can't even kill enemy snipers with headshots. You guys are just lazy and want the sniper to stay in the dirt just because you don't want to pick up the sniper and actually counter snipe. The last time I was killed by a sniper was literally a month ago. How sad, I have been killed more by flay locks and ion pistols than snipers. I remember a time when you had to be careful crossing large areas. Now even a militia scout can survive a direct hit from a Thales. I remember a time when you had to have a counter sniper in your squad because snipers were good but ever since they have been getting nerfed into the ground. Assault HP buff, Damage mod nerf, new crosshairs ect. ect. there is 0% risk when you sit on your butt in the redline in a commando suit which iirc cannot get headshot OHKed [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 352	Posted - 2014.08.26 18:19:00 - [8] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: 0% risk or reward my butt. Snipers are easy sitting targets. The only problem is heavy and super tanked Assault snipers. You know a sniper is UP when you can't even kill enemy snipers with headshots. You guys are just lazy and want the sniper to stay in the dirt just because you don't want to pick up the sniper and actually counter snipe. The last time I was killed by a sniper was literally a month ago. How sad, I have been killed more by flay locks and ion pistols than snipers. I remember a time when you had to be careful crossing large areas. Now even a militia scout can survive a direct hit from a Thales. I remember a time when you had to have a counter sniper in your squad because snipers were good but ever since they have been getting nerfed into the ground. Assault HP buff, Damage mod nerf, new crosshairs ect. ect. there is 0% risk when you sit on your butt in the redline in a commando suit which iirc cannot get headshot OHKed There is only ever 0 risk when nobody tries to kill you. people like to say about this 0 risk for red liners, well they also get 0 reward. . they get low kills, so do not really enjoy sniping (first time you get more than 20 kills, you start to feel it, after your first 30 you are hooked) .all snipers get relatively low wp and by extension low isk, the worse you do the less you get. .they do not get taken into corp battles and the likes .When they come across a decent sniper they get severely punished for their sins.. but the thing to remember is that does not describe all snipers, but all snipers get described as that.
Mike De Luca STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME 264	Posted - 2014.08.26 19:37:00 - [9] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: 0% risk or reward my butt. Snipers are easy sitting targets. The only problem is heavy and super tanked Assault snipers. You know a sniper is UP when you can't even kill enemy snipers with headshots. You guys are just lazy and want the sniper to stay in the dirt just because you don't want to pick up the sniper and actually counter snipe. The last time I was killed by a sniper was literally a month ago. How sad, I have been killed more by flay locks and ion pistols than snipers. I remember a time when you had to be careful crossing large areas. Now even a militia scout can survive a direct hit from a Thales. I remember a time when you had to have a counter sniper in your squad because snipers were good but ever since they have been getting nerfed into the ground. Assault HP buff, Damage mod nerf, new crosshairs ect. ect. there is 0% risk when you sit on your butt in the redline in a commando suit which iirc cannot get headshot OHKed There is only ever 0 risk when nobody tries to kill you. people like to say about this 0 risk for red liners, well they also get 0 reward. . they get low kills, so do not really enjoy sniping (first time you get more than 20 kills, you start to feel it, after your first 30 you are hooked) .all snipers get relatively low wp and by extension low isk, the worse you do the less you get. .they do not get taken into corp battles and the likes .When they come across a decent sniper they get severely punished for their sins.. but the thing to remember is that does not describe all snipers, but all snipers get described as that. This, the average sniper..........I said average, not highly skilled like Snake n Symbiotic, miiiiiiiiihgt make 150k isk on a good match, if I lost 1 suit at that low of an income, I'm in the red for that match since mine are somewhere between 150-200k don't have the game up so I can't give exact numbers. Anyway, to be PUB effective, you pretty much have to run a proto sr to keep up with the ehp on most non starter fit suits anymore..... Apothecary Za'ki....if you ever meet a REAL sniper in a match, one that comes on here anyway, you will be regretting those words.....they will be ******* with you the entire match like I do a redliner.- what i think of when charging fg
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1175	Posted - 2014.08.26 20:28:00 - [10] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Back when snipers were a thing battles weren't filled with 80-90% solo players on each side. If snipers were as good as they were back then this would literally be Snipe 514. How good were they back then? good enough they were up to standard.. it was like sniping in a normal FPS where you can't tank a headshot and it took 2-3 body shots to kills someone.. i dont even snipe but it's just a joke now the guy getting snipe just shrugs it off. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012

David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 54	Posted - 2014.08.26 20:42:00 - [11] - Quote Pretty much, sniping is horrible because everyone cries when sniped. Grow a ******* pair and deal with it you got headshotted. but noooooooo you can take it you get so butt hurt. So now head shots do nothing. the sniper rifle has been all but made useless. Not to mention the amount of cheating the rest of you losers have to do.
Liquid Fox88 Pure Evil. 28	Posted - 2014.08.26 22:04:00 - [12] - Quote Well, think about it, back then a headshot meant death, which also made it easier to counter snipe so there weren't that many people ballsy enough to risk losing a Thales. Now that the sniper rifle is underpowered, countering that Thales guy in the back of the redline means figuring out how to efficiently take out 1000+ HP before he realizes what is happening and hides. Counter sniping people like that is so inefficient that it borders on insanity. What are we, snipers, to do if infantry cried to nerf the sniper and up the amount TTK which indirectly killed the most efficient counter to the 1000+eHP Thales. The only counter then is either another Thales, which means the opposing Thales user will have to cross the battle field and risk his Thales to take out another Thales who is chilling in the redline, or some other unconventional and equally inefficient method. People who complain about redline sniping being zero risk forgets that it is the underpowerness of all the other snipers that make it no risk to redline snipe. The weakness of the rifle gives added protection to many redline snipers from the elite snipers. So if good snipers see the inefficiency in killing pub Thales users then how does one expect the rest of the player base to compete. GÇ£No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness.GÇ¥ ~Aristotle
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 3917	Posted - 2014.08.26 22:24:00 - [13] - Quote Listen, it cost me around 50k each time I wanna kill a sniper because I have to fly deep into the redline, hope I kill him. Then I die...NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. So to stop this person who is picking myself and my blueberries off before we can get to the point(and please stop saying this is impossible, I've lost many Proto suits to sniper rifles) I have to either skill into the weapon they are using, skill into a suit with lots of highs then get to the point and start trying to snipe him while avoiding his team mates. God forbid he is near a supply depot or in a fat suit. If I choose not to go into snipers, then I have to kill myself or risk a minimum of 300,000 isk to fly a ADS into the redline to kill one or 2 guys who were suppressing my entire team. As long as there is a redline you can't buff snipers. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Soreconyr Rise Of Old Dudes 72	Posted - 2014.08.26 22:31:00 - [14] - Quote People don't *** about Snipers because they got killed by one, they * because there's 4-10 of them in every match, doing jack to help win a match. Hiding in the hills like a *** ass Charles Whitman wannabe, trying to pad their KDR, not actually making a dent in the clone count or contributing to point control. Your payouts suck because your Team probably lost because the Team that won had less than 3 snipers. If it was a Deathmatch, you might be useful. But, that mode does not exist. So get your ass on the ground and flip some objectives if you want to get paid and not ridiculed. Redneck's last words: "Honey, hold my beer. Hey, y'all watch this!"
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 5104	Posted - 2014.08.26 22:32:00 - [15] - Quote lolwut Snipers in redlines are impervious to everything except moar snipers It goes: Grunt < Sniper < Sniper < Sniper < Kamikaze DS < Light Pole < Sniper The food chain Bojo For CPM
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1841	Posted - 2014.08.26 22:36:00 - [16] - Quote Honestly the biggest problem I've had with sniping is that half my shots blue flare. The shot hots, I get a hit marker, shields flare, but no damage is done. Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
LegacyofTable 28	Posted - 2014.08.26 22:56:00 - [17] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: As long as there is a redline you can't buff snipers. Actually, the redline is there for a reason. It's supposed to be used as a quiet reprieve area where you take the time to summon in vehicles safely and decide what suit you want to use before heading in (etc.). But because of some ungodly reason, it's a place used by snipers to hide behind hills to where you can be hit, but when you go to counter-snipe, you hit a hill instead of their head. Removing the redline solves nothing (considering it's all balanced around pubs). It only encourages protostompers to redline stomp even worse than already happens. Imagine being a match with 6-7 blueberries on your team against a full 6 man squad of let's say Nyain San. They push you back to what would normally be the redline, but because it's removed, that no longer applies. They are now allowed to camp under your mcc so you never land without being shotgunned to death in the face. You are never allowed to spawn at your normal spawn either because you'll get HMG'd to death in the face. What do you suppose we do then? Make it to where you randomly spawn on the map like ambush? Yeah look how well it does you already. Spawn camped because it refuses to spawn you anywhere else, and when it finally does, it's too late because you just lost 30-40 clones. I'm all for changing the redline, but not removing it completely. The single best way to make the redline how it should be would be to make it to where you can't shoot in or out of the redline's line for each side. This gives people that are redlined a chance to summon in tanks/dropships to fight back and get inside the area while preventing people sitting 200-500 meters from the objective inside the redline from sniping you with that 1k EHP Thales heavy. However, should someone decide the cross the redline into enemy territory, they're allowed to shoot you with infantry/tank. It won't stop people from sitting just outside the redline on some maps, but it makes them more easily accessible than it used to be. Redline tanks/installations are also nerfed, so all turrets would have to be placed strategically on the field. But considering that would require an actual change and not just a hotfix, it will never happen. But in the meantime, any changes to nerf the sniper's range/damage are just going to make the sniper a dead role. For those of us that get the chance and do snipe outside the redline, some of those great perches are still 200+ meters from the objective. Tl;dr- Change, but don't remove, the redline, and don't nerf snipers range. Licensed Thales Hunter Total Thales taken - 21
Zindorak 1.U.P 685	Posted - 2014.08.26 22:58:00 - [18] - Quote What are you smoking? I must supply it to my customers lol Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 835	Posted - 2014.08.27 00:07:00 - [19] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: 0% risk or reward my butt. Snipers are easy sitting targets. The only problem is heavy and super tanked Assault snipers. You know a sniper is UP when you can't even kill enemy snipers with headshots. You guys are just lazy and want the sniper to stay in the dirt just because you don't want to pick up the sniper and actually counter snipe. The last time I was killed by a sniper was literally a month ago. How sad, I have been killed more by flay locks and ion pistols than snipers. I remember a time when you had to be careful crossing large areas. Now even a militia scout can survive a direct hit from a Thales. I remember a time when you had to have a counter sniper in your squad because snipers were good but ever since they have been getting nerfed into the ground. Assault HP buff, Damage mod nerf, new crosshairs ect. ect. there is 0% risk when you sit on your butt in the redline in a commando suit which iirc cannot get headshot OHKed There is only ever 0 risk when nobody tries to kill you. people like to say about this 0 risk for red liners, well they also get 0 reward. . they get low kills, so do not really enjoy sniping (first time you get more than 20 kills, you start to feel it, after your first 30 you are hooked) .all snipers get relatively low wp and by extension low isk, the worse you do the less you get. .they do not get taken into corp battles and the likes .When they come across a decent sniper they get severely punished for their sins.. but the thing to remember is that does not describe all snipers, but all snipers get described as that. yeah *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Spaceman-Rob Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 502	Posted - 2014.08.27 00:08:00 - [20] - Quote ..............

Mike De Luca STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME 266	Posted - 2014.08.27 00:09:00 - [21] - Quote Soreconyr wrote: People don't *** about Snipers because they got killed by one, they * because there's 4-10 of them in every match, doing jack to help win a match. Hiding in the hills like a * ass Charles Whitman wannabe, trying to pad their KDR, not actually making a dent in the clone count or contributing to point control. Your payouts suck because your Team probably lost because the Team that won had less than 3 snipers. If it was a Deathmatch, you might be useful. But, that mode does not exist. So get your ass on the ground and flip some objectives if you want to get paid and not ridiculed. No, people *** because they got sniped, last match I played that I can remember my stats for because I generally don't care about them, oops there goes your stat padding theory) I went 26-0 with10-15 assists, top of the board for wp on my team, top kills overall, and we won......while I was nowhere near the redline. Still got hatemail for supposedly being a redline sniper......yeah people like you don't just assume redline when they see a sniper in the killfeed, not at all. How a real sniper acts: 1. Find the best overwatch for the current area of engagement 2. Support team through killing, if not possible (brick tanked heavies mostly) soften them up before they hit your team 3. Continued support through equipment destruction, typically uplinks first then nanohives, and on the very rare occasion you spot one, re's (this is not done for wp, this is done to kill off their support and deny wp, denying a quicker ob) 4. If you have a mic, speak up and do long range recon, even if it's just warning of incoming vehicles so your team can be prepared Getting sick of people generalizing all of us what i think of when charging fg
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 835	Posted - 2014.08.27 00:10:00 - [22] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: lolwut Snipers in redlines are impervious to everything except moar snipers It goes: Grunt < Sniper < Sniper < Sniper < Kamikaze DS < Light Pole < Sniper The food chain Heavies in CQC with a six kin is impervious to everything except moar Heavies... Yes you can shotgun or nova knife a heavy just like you can ADS a sniper or leave him alone because he doesn't close to no damage. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2536	Posted - 2014.08.27 00:48:00 - [23] - Quote Bullet originates from beyond redline, bullet does 0 damage. I sure could go for a sandwich. K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the *whole* game. Red line snipers and tankers hate it.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 788	Posted - 2014.08.27 02:44:00 - [24] - Quote Counter sniping is one thing. Needing a specific item to kill someone because they're so deep into their redline a dropship can't even reach them in time is another. If the draw distance in this game was better, it wouldn't be so bad, but to kill the average Thale's sniper, you have to also use a Thale's to have any chance of finding them because they won't even render through the normal rifle scopes. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 649	Posted - 2014.08.27 02:57:00 - [25] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: lolwut Snipers in redlines are impervious to everything except moar snipers It goes: Grunt < Sniper < Sniper < Sniper < Kamikaze DS < Light Pole < Sniper The food chain Heavies in CQC with a six kin is impervious to everything except moar Heavies... Yes you can shotgun or nova knife a heavy just like you can ADS a sniper or leave him alone because he doesn't close to no damage. But move thirty metres away and he's suddenly all too killable. With the sniper, we're talking hundreds of metres of ground that I need to search before I travel thanks to the 20s timer. And if the sniper is terrible, I still can't kill him. If the heavy is bad that all changes. There it is, really - sniping from the redline has no real counter except itself. With a heavy, sure I could slug it out in CQC. If he's better than me, or better equipped, then I die. Or I could attack him from range, outside his effective, and kite him to death. Or I could place a remote explosive around the corner and instagib him. The only way to kill a redline sniper is to counter snipe from a comparatively vulnerable position (i.e. Not the redline) and shoot him back, to run for twenty seconds and suicide to get him (and if he's a heavy I might still fail) or to use an ADS which is even more costly. It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 837	Posted - 2014.08.27 04:29:00 - [26] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Counter sniping is one thing. Needing a specific item to kill someone because they're so deep into their redline a dropship can't even reach them in time is another. If the draw distance in this game was better, it wouldn't be so bad, but to kill the average Thale's sniper, you have to also use a Thale's to have any chance of finding them because they won't even render through the normal rifle scopes. Snipers in redline are usless. You can't even see the person 350m out, you just gotta rely on the little arrow above their head and the way the new crosshairs are set up, you can't see what you're shooting and the person is smaller than the crosshairs 350m out. The zoom on the SR is set up for a weapon used within 150m *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4407	Posted - 2014.08.27 11:12:00 - [27] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: lolwut Snipers in redlines are impervious to everything except moar snipers It goes: Grunt < Sniper < Sniper < Sniper < Kamikaze DS < Light Pole < Sniper The food chain Heavies in CQC with a six kin is impervious to everything except moar Heavies... Yes you can shotgun or nova knife a heavy just like you can ADS a sniper or leave him alone because he doesn't close to no damage. Min Assault can melt a heavy with ACR Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
TechMechMeds Level 5 Forum Warrior 5378	Posted - 2014.08.27 11:44:00 - [28] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Back when snipers were a thing battles weren't filled with 80-90% solo players on each side. If snipers were as good as they were back then this would literally be Snipe 514. How good were they back then? I am both crap with a ds3 and sniping. I went 48/1............... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=172432&find=unread
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 840	Posted - 2014.08.27 12:43:00 - [29] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: lolwut Snipers in redlines are impervious to everything except moar snipers It goes: Grunt < Sniper < Sniper < Sniper < Kamikaze DS < Light Pole < Sniper The food chain Heavies in CQC with a six kin is impervious to everything except moar Heavies... Yes you can shotgun or nova knife a heavy just like you can ADS a sniper or leave him alone because he doesn't close to no damage. Min Assault can melt a heavy with ACR That's If I don't blow your face off with my Six Kin in a burst first. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5811	Posted - 2014.08.27 14:39:00 - [30] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Snipe 514 ended with removal of mountains. It's become Cloak and MAX EHP 514 most recently. Although cloaks don't actually do much when you think about it. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè

TritusX PH4NT0M5 10	Posted - 2014.08.27 14:49:00 - [31] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: 0% risk or reward my butt. Snipers are easy sitting targets. The only problem is heavy and super tanked Assault snipers. You know a sniper is UP when you can't even kill enemy snipers with headshots. You guys are just lazy and want the sniper to stay in the dirt just because you don't want to pick up the sniper and actually counter snipe. The last time I was killed by a sniper was literally a month ago. How sad, I have been killed more by flay locks and ion pistols than snipers. I remember a time when you had to be careful crossing large areas. Now even a militia scout can survive a direct hit from a Thales. I remember a time when you had to have a counter sniper in your squad because snipers were good but ever since they have been getting nerfed into the ground. Assault HP buff, Damage mod nerf, new crosshairs ect. ect. There are Milita Scouts?!?!?!?!??!?!??!? Minmatar Scout and never changing.
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 247	Posted - 2014.08.27 18:06:00 - [32] - Quote David Mustane wrote: Pretty much, sniping is horrible because everyone cries when sniped. Grow a ******* pair and deal with it you got headshotted. but noooooooo you can take it you get so butt hurt. So now head shots do nothing. the sniper rifle has been all but made useless. Not to mention the amount of cheating the rest of you losers have to do. LOL i can't count the number of times i've seen you in the redline sniping. I respect symbiotic as a sniper. You are the type of sniper that screws over the true snipers because of the tactics you are using. (read redline sniping)
TechMechMeds Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 5391	Posted - 2014.08.27 18:19:00 - [33] - Quote David Mustane wrote: Pretty much, sniping is horrible because everyone cries when sniped. Grow a ******* pair and deal with it you got headshotted. but noooooooo you can take it you get so butt hurt. So now head shots do nothing. the sniper rifle has been all but made useless. Not to mention the amount of cheating the rest of you losers have to do. You are useless.......and stupid. My hometown beat Manchester united. Git gud man utd. 4-0
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 60	Posted - 2014.08.27 19:37:00 - [34] - Quote Yeah I snipe from the red line but usually that is because I want a over head perch. Since no maps offer a high ground else where the red line is a choice spot. And with the amount of cheaters that sit in my red line waiting, I don't ******* care. (Outer Heaven has removed the red line from many of my matches.) Fix the Sniper rifle with a buff to damage and zoom, and I may leave the red line to start hunting. Though I for see to many cry babies to allow it to happen.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 788	Posted - 2014.08.27 20:53:00 - [35] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Counter sniping is one thing. Needing a specific item to kill someone because they're so deep into their redline a dropship can't even reach them in time is another. If the draw distance in this game was better, it wouldn't be so bad, but to kill the average Thale's sniper, you have to also use a Thale's to have any chance of finding them because they won't even render through the normal rifle scopes. Snipers in redline are usless. You can't even see the person 350m out, you just gotta rely on the little arrow above their head and the way the new crosshairs are set up, you can't see what you're shooting and the person is smaller than the crosshairs 350m out. The zoom on the SR is set up for a weapon used within 150m I don't usually pay much attention to distance when sniping and usually only bother doing it at all when counter sniping so I can't comment on the 350 meter bit, I just know I've found a few Thale's users so far out that they didn't render in my scopes, even though I knew exactly where they were. And yes, they were getting kills while being so far in the redline that I had to suicide in a dropship to kill them... wait, no. The one I'm thinking of, I couldn't even reach in a dropship with enough time to safely land and kill him. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 248	Posted - 2014.08.27 21:32:00 - [36] - Quote David Mustane wrote: Yeah I snipe from the red line but usually that is because I want a over head perch. Since no maps offer a high ground else where the red line is a choice spot. And with the amount of cheaters that sit in my red line waiting, I don't ******* care. (Outer Heaven has removed the red line from many of my matches.) Fix the Sniper rifle with a buff to damage and zoom, and I may leave the red line to start hunting. Though I for see to many cry babies to allow it to happen. Outer Heaven removed the redline? wtf are you talking about? Are you KingThunderbolts alt? I'm going to ask CCP to create a BPO vehicle for you. A shortbus BPO to get out of that redline..
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 788	Posted - 2014.08.27 21:55:00 - [37] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: David Mustane wrote: Yeah I snipe from the red line but usually that is because I want a over head perch. Since no maps offer a high ground else where the red line is a choice spot. And with the amount of cheaters that sit in my red line waiting, I don't ******* care. (Outer Heaven has removed the red line from many of my matches.) Fix the Sniper rifle with a buff to damage and zoom, and I may leave the red line to start hunting. Though I for see to many cry babies to allow it to happen. Outer Heaven removed the redline? wtf are you talking about? Are you KingThunderbolts alt? I'm going to ask CCP to create a BPO vehicle for you. A shortbus BPO to get out of that redline.. I think he means the use of ADS dropships by O.H. has made it impossible to snipe safely in the redline. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 60	Posted - 2014.08.27 23:13:00 - [38] - Quote no I mean Outer Heaven made it so they could stand under the MCC and be with in 10m of the ground spawn. Outer Heaven are lag switch using, out right hak using cheaters. Plus the list I've compiled thus far, laziness has stopped me from my idea of daily post of the cheaters that refuse to get hit and when they do the magicly jump behind me. But this derails the thread. Snipers rifles need a better zoom, 25% of the thale's at ADV, and 75% of the thale's at proto.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3275	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:01:00 - [39] - Quote Pick up as in revive? If so, I have. In the past, my brother and I would often take our Thale's out to do some sniping around the outskirts of a map, constantly moving around as a two-man mobile sniper squad. If one of us became targeted by a counter-sniper or snuck up on by a stealthy Scout, we'd have Wyrkomi Injectors on hand to revive each other.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 936	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:08:00 - [40] - Quote im assuming your basing this off the other thread which was clearly a troll. yes your an easy target sitting on a mountain top when your suit silhouettes against the sky behind you. its just the best spot for a large sightline. not that youll hit anything because at 300-400m you get the rendering issues and leading targets becomes impossible so unless someones sitting still and you get lucky you hit them. at closer range while staying hidden the sightlines arent great and theres nothing to shoot at but you can sit there all match and no one will see you be it a counter sniper or enemy infantry. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.

Cass Caul 945	Posted - 2014.08.28 01:18:00 - [41] - Quote Liquid Fox88 wrote: Well, think about it, back then a headshot meant death, which also made it easier to counter snipe so there weren't that many people ballsy enough to risk losing a Thales. Now that the sniper rifle is underpowered, countering that Thales guy in the back of the redline means figuring out how to efficiently take out 1000+ HP before he realizes what is happening and hides. Counter sniping people like that is so inefficient that it borders on insanity. What are we, snipers, to do if infantry cried to nerf the sniper and up the amount TTK which indirectly killed the most efficient counter to the 1000+eHP Thales. The only counter then is either another Thales, which means the opposing Thales user will have to cross the battle field and risk his Thales to take out another Thales who is chilling in the redline, or some other unconventional and equally inefficient method. People who complain about redline sniping being zero risk forgets that it is the underpowerness of all the other snipers that make it no risk to redline snipe. The weakness of the rifle gives added protection to many redline snipers from the elite snipers. So if good snipers see the inefficiency in killing pub Thales users then how does one expect the rest of the player base to compete. Probably one of the top best responses to the "redline-sniping is the problem" rhetoric I blame her for nova knife kills on tanks
Thurak1 Psygod9 952	Posted - 2014.08.28 02:02:00 - [42] - Quote Personally i like sniping with my forge gun. I wish i had a scope on it because its really hard to see targets that are far away but the forge gun is really effective as a sniper weapon. Any suit i hit its a perma kill. I know if i hit / kill someone that they are not coming back via needle. The tough part is that its pretty hard to even see other snipers. I find myself aiming at a little 4 pixle dot on the screen and missing a whole lot. Sure is handy though when tanks come on the field and i can work on them. Would be nice if there was a version of the forge gun that had a sniper scope on it. Even if it did half the damage and had the same charge up time.
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 246	Posted - 2014.08.28 02:18:00 - [43] - Quote It is very hard counter sniping redline Thale commandos. I enjoy counter sniping with a tactical rifle. Because if you line up the head shot, generally a double hit followed by a body shot as they jump up is enough. A lot of the time I use a sniper rifle as an anti material weapon targeting uplink/nanohive and essentially directing the flow of battle. I would love more ammunition types as equipment slots: Anti vehicle (30% damage to a vehicle) Tag - no damage just lights up the target on scanners EM - anti equipment. Better scopes would be nice to. My take on 514: Five Empires, One Dead, Four Alive
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 251	Posted - 2014.08.28 02:49:00 - [44] - Quote David Mustane wrote: no I mean Outer Heaven made it so they could stand under the MCC and be with in 10m of the ground spawn. Outer Heaven are lag switch using, out right hak using cheaters. Plus the list I've compiled thus far, laziness has stopped me from my idea of daily post of the cheaters that refuse to get hit and when they do the magicly jump behind me. But this derails the thread. Snipers rifles need a better zoom, 25% of the thale's at ADV, and 75% of the thale's at proto. LOL lagswitching. beep beep shortbus coming through...
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2032	Posted - 2014.08.28 03:11:00 - [45] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Personally i like sniping with my forge gun. I wish i had a scope on it because its really hard to see targets that are far away but the forge gun is really effective as a sniper weapon. snip Actually back in the days of team shared scans I counter snipped with an Assault Forge Gun all the time. What made it exciting was having to crouch in a crappy buffer fit heavy that could One-Hit-Kill them while they could kill me with just one mag. It taught me to respect cover and work on my truffle shuffle. You could also tell the professionals by their use of cover and position from the Mercs who were just trying to pull a ranged advantage. Obviously I preferred the later because they fed me more kills. I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers. Forums > Game: Biggest understatement ever
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2032	Posted - 2014.08.28 03:24:00 - [46] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Have you ever picked up a Sniper? I thought this thread was going to be some kind of dating joke. In both Chromosome and Uprising respectively I had the honor of working with two squad friendly snipers. During that stretch of Open Beta the first guy moved with the squad doing close-in support. The second would look for the best vantage and support from afar on our targets while also counter sniping. He only had to be chewed out now and then when his discipline slipped and he sought kills at his squads expense. Truth be told it would have been much less aggregating if he didn't gloat about his kills after a rough match where I did the bleeding. I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers. Forums > Game: Biggest understatement ever
taxi bastard Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 230	Posted - 2014.08.28 03:43:00 - [47] - Quote all i know is being a base EHP mini commando (700EHP) i am easy pcikings even for a sniper starter fit. - heavy hitbox less than assault EHP and slow! that aside when i snipe it does not seem too bad either you support the battle and get assists or kills or you go for solo kills. the problem with trying to solo kill with lower tier snipers is that not everything is a realistic target and you should learn what to leave. scout shoot, commando shoot, logi shoot.....assault maybe heavy don't waste ammo. can't comment on the higher tiers but imo they be fine
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 964	Posted - 2014.08.28 04:30:00 - [48] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Back when snipers were a thing battles weren't filled with 80-90% solo players on each side. If snipers were as good as they were back then this would literally be Snipe 514. How good were they back then? rediculous Translation : I was actually killed once each round by a sniper, but only once! Considering I play both sides of this situation, I'm wondering when this was? Cause I've been here since E3 2012. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 941	Posted - 2014.08.31 07:51:00 - [49] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Played a game last week where snake sellors went 52/0 big surprise HE LEFT THE REDLINE. 52/0 sniping? Damn. My best is 31/1 with the Kaalakiota TAC. And I was nowhere near the red line, was on Fracture Road dom. Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 377	Posted - 2014.08.31 11:39:00 - [50] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Played a game last week where snake sellors went 52/0 big surprise HE LEFT THE REDLINE. 52/0 sniping? Damn. My best is 31/1 with the Kaalakiota TAC. And I was nowhere near the red line, was on Fracture Road dom. That's pretty good for a tac rifle, I only like those for lol sniping in silly places or counter sniping where they really shine. I was using a charge and to be fair it was on a prime sniping rounds where the reds had less survival sense than lemmings and kept on stopping to smell the daisies... Or I may be being modest...

Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 115	Posted - 2014.08.31 13:17:00 - [51] - Quote So we all know realism isn't something we balance dust on. In rl..There is no magical redline that prevents a sniper from being hunted down. ..i think the solution should be to nerf sniper range so it just isn't possible to snipe far from in the redline. And buff the damage to be more adequate .I'm no sniper but from what I read..REAL snipers don't sit in the red line in dust..so why not trade a bit of your range for more damage? no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
ratamaq doc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 806	Posted - 2014.08.31 13:35:00 - [52] - Quote Sure, several. Friendly ones on the hood of my LAV! http://youtu.be/DyII0o2N13A YouTube
Maximus Aurelicus Gallente Federation Resistance 1	Posted - 2014.09.03 09:55:00 - [53] - Quote I have a solution. Move the redlined zone super far away from the actual battlefield. Then snipers will have to come forward or not be able to snipe because of various problems like the fog that makes even zoom vision terrible. Now the only thing cowardly snipers will get to snipe are those interested in killing them. Problem solved. *MCCs need internal drop-hatch friendly damage over time like heat, war effects, hazards, anti-traitor systems etc.*
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16332	Posted - 2014.09.03 10:03:00 - [54] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: 0% risk or reward my butt. Snipers are easy sitting targets. The only problem is heavy and super tanked Assault snipers. You know a sniper is UP when you can't even kill enemy snipers with headshots. You guys are just lazy and want the sniper to stay in the dirt just because you don't want to pick up the sniper and actually counter snipe. The last time I was killed by a sniper was literally a month ago. How sad, I have been killed more by flay locks and ion pistols than snipers. I remember a time when you had to be careful crossing large areas. Now even a militia scout can survive a direct hit from a Thales. I remember a time when you had to have a counter sniper in your squad because snipers were good but ever since they have been getting nerfed into the ground. Assault HP buff, Damage mod nerf, new crosshairs ect. ect. Forge Gun CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16332	Posted - 2014.09.03 10:04:00 - [55] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Back when snipers were a thing battles weren't filled with 80-90% solo players on each side. If snipers were as good as they were back then this would literally be Snipe 514. How good were they back then? rediculous Translation : I was actually killed once each round by a sniper, but only once! Considering I play both sides of this situation, I'm wondering when this was? Cause I've been here since E3 2012. Back then? I say 20% Snipers 40% HAVs 30% Assault SMGs 5% RE Frisbees 5% FOTM Rifles. Lately? I have been killed by a sniper... once in the last month. Got stuck on the pipes in ashlands and the guy I am pretty sure shot my foot. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Leanna Boghin Paradox Pride 428	Posted - 2014.09.03 10:08:00 - [56] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: there is 0% risk when you sit on your butt in the redline in a commando suit which iirc cannot get headshot OHKed You obviously never actually tried to snipe a commando otherwise you would know they arent invincible and they can be counter sniped (Thales and tacticals work great i die by those all the time) It isnt 0% risk for any sniper even redliners to snipe. Only people bitching about redliners are the ones that want to be able to stand still on the battle field and kill enemies instead of being forced to move around to make it harder to get hit. Dont stand still and you dont die because i guarantee a sniper will go for the immobile players before they go for the mobile ones. Stupid sniper haters never even picked up a sniper rifle before in this game so you shouldnt be complaining about your horrible play style. Besides redline sniping isnt the problem the map design is so blame CCP not the snipers. I snipe in the redline because i know it pisses you off
Leanna Boghin Paradox Pride 429	Posted - 2014.09.03 10:11:00 - [57] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: So we all know realism isn't something we balance dust on. In rl..There is no magical redline that prevents a sniper from being hunted down. ..i think the solution should be to nerf sniper range so it just isn't possible to snipe far from in the redline. And buff the damage to be more adequate .I'm no sniper but from what I read..REAL snipers don't sit in the red line in dust..so why not trade a bit of your range for more damage? "IRL" snipers pick high hidden points to snipe from where their enemy wont be able to get to them so yeah again blame the map design not the snipers. Its CCPs fault that all the good sniper spots are that far out not the snipers. This hating on snipers for a map design flaw is ridiculous and misplaced. I snipe in the redline because i know it pisses you off


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