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TritusX
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Posted - 2014.08.27 14:49:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:0% risk or reward my butt. Snipers are easy sitting targets. The only problem is heavy and super tanked Assault snipers. You know a sniper is UP when you can't even kill enemy snipers with headshots. You guys are just lazy and want the sniper to stay in the dirt just because you don't want to pick up the sniper and actually counter snipe. The last time I was killed by a sniper was literally a month ago. How sad, I have been killed more by flay locks and ion pistols than snipers.
I remember a time when you had to be careful crossing large areas. Now even a militia scout can survive a direct hit from a Thales. I remember a time when you had to have a counter sniper in your squad because snipers were good but ever since they have been getting nerfed into the ground. Assault HP buff, Damage mod nerf, new crosshairs ect. ect.
There are Milita Scouts?!?!?!?!??!?!??!?
Minmatar Scout and never changing.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
247
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Posted - 2014.08.27 18:06:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Pretty much, sniping is horrible because everyone cries when sniped. Grow a ******* pair and deal with it you got headshotted.
but noooooooo you can take it you get so butt hurt.
So now head shots do nothing.
the sniper rifle has been all but made useless.
Not to mention the amount of cheating the rest of you losers have to do.
LOL i can't count the number of times i've seen you in the redline sniping. I respect symbiotic as a sniper. You are the type of sniper that screws over the true snipers because of the tactics you are using. (read redline sniping) |
TechMechMeds
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
5391
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Posted - 2014.08.27 18:19:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Pretty much, sniping is horrible because everyone cries when sniped. Grow a ******* pair and deal with it you got headshotted.
but noooooooo you can take it you get so butt hurt.
So now head shots do nothing.
the sniper rifle has been all but made useless.
Not to mention the amount of cheating the rest of you losers have to do.
You are useless.......and stupid.
My hometown beat Manchester united.
Git gud man utd.
4-0
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
60
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Posted - 2014.08.27 19:37:00 -
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Yeah I snipe from the red line but usually that is because I want a over head perch. Since no maps offer a high ground else where the red line is a choice spot.
And with the amount of cheaters that sit in my red line waiting, I don't ******* care. (Outer Heaven has removed the red line from many of my matches.)
Fix the Sniper rifle with a buff to damage and zoom, and I may leave the red line to start hunting. Though I for see to many cry babies to allow it to happen. |
Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
788
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Posted - 2014.08.27 20:53:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Counter sniping is one thing. Needing a specific item to kill someone because they're so deep into their redline a dropship can't even reach them in time is another. If the draw distance in this game was better, it wouldn't be so bad, but to kill the average Thale's sniper, you have to also use a Thale's to have any chance of finding them because they won't even render through the normal rifle scopes. Snipers in redline are usless. You can't even see the person 350m out, you just gotta rely on the little arrow above their head and the way the new crosshairs are set up, you can't see what you're shooting and the person is smaller than the crosshairs 350m out. The zoom on the SR is set up for a weapon used within 150m
I don't usually pay much attention to distance when sniping and usually only bother doing it at all when counter sniping so I can't comment on the 350 meter bit, I just know I've found a few Thale's users so far out that they didn't render in my scopes, even though I knew exactly where they were. And yes, they were getting kills while being so far in the redline that I had to suicide in a dropship to kill them... wait, no. The one I'm thinking of, I couldn't even reach in a dropship with enough time to safely land and kill him.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
248
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:32:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Yeah I snipe from the red line but usually that is because I want a over head perch. Since no maps offer a high ground else where the red line is a choice spot.
And with the amount of cheaters that sit in my red line waiting, I don't ******* care. (Outer Heaven has removed the red line from many of my matches.)
Fix the Sniper rifle with a buff to damage and zoom, and I may leave the red line to start hunting. Though I for see to many cry babies to allow it to happen.
Outer Heaven removed the redline? wtf are you talking about? Are you KingThunderbolts alt? I'm going to ask CCP to create a BPO vehicle for you. A shortbus BPO to get out of that redline.. |
Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
788
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:55:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:David Mustane wrote:Yeah I snipe from the red line but usually that is because I want a over head perch. Since no maps offer a high ground else where the red line is a choice spot.
And with the amount of cheaters that sit in my red line waiting, I don't ******* care. (Outer Heaven has removed the red line from many of my matches.)
Fix the Sniper rifle with a buff to damage and zoom, and I may leave the red line to start hunting. Though I for see to many cry babies to allow it to happen. Outer Heaven removed the redline? wtf are you talking about? Are you KingThunderbolts alt? I'm going to ask CCP to create a BPO vehicle for you. A shortbus BPO to get out of that redline..
I think he means the use of ADS dropships by O.H. has made it impossible to snipe safely in the redline.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
60
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Posted - 2014.08.27 23:13:00 -
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no I mean Outer Heaven made it so they could stand under the MCC and be with in 10m of the ground spawn.
Outer Heaven are lag switch using, out right hak using cheaters.
Plus the list I've compiled thus far, laziness has stopped me from my idea of daily post of the cheaters that refuse to get hit and when they do the magicly jump behind me.
But this derails the thread.
Snipers rifles need a better zoom, 25% of the thale's at ADV, and 75% of the thale's at proto. |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3275
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Posted - 2014.08.28 00:01:00 -
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Pick up as in revive? If so, I have. In the past, my brother and I would often take our Thale's out to do some sniping around the outskirts of a map, constantly moving around as a two-man mobile sniper squad. If one of us became targeted by a counter-sniper or snuck up on by a stealthy Scout, we'd have Wyrkomi Injectors on hand to revive each other.
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
936
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Posted - 2014.08.28 00:08:00 -
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im assuming your basing this off the other thread which was clearly a troll.
yes your an easy target sitting on a mountain top when your suit silhouettes against the sky behind you. its just the best spot for a large sightline. not that youll hit anything because at 300-400m you get the rendering issues and leading targets becomes impossible so unless someones sitting still and you get lucky you hit them.
at closer range while staying hidden the sightlines arent great and theres nothing to shoot at but you can sit there all match and no one will see you be it a counter sniper or enemy infantry.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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Cass Caul
945
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Posted - 2014.08.28 01:18:00 -
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Liquid Fox88 wrote:Well, think about it, back then a headshot meant death, which also made it easier to counter snipe so there weren't that many people ballsy enough to risk losing a Thales. Now that the sniper rifle is underpowered, countering that Thales guy in the back of the redline means figuring out how to efficiently take out 1000+ HP before he realizes what is happening and hides. Counter sniping people like that is so inefficient that it borders on insanity. What are we, snipers, to do if infantry cried to nerf the sniper and up the amount TTK which indirectly killed the most efficient counter to the 1000+eHP Thales.
The only counter then is either another Thales, which means the opposing Thales user will have to cross the battle field and risk his Thales to take out another Thales who is chilling in the redline, or some other unconventional and equally inefficient method.
People who complain about redline sniping being zero risk forgets that it is the underpowerness of all the other snipers that make it no risk to redline snipe. The weakness of the rifle gives added protection to many redline snipers from the elite snipers.
So if good snipers see the inefficiency in killing pub Thales users then how does one expect the rest of the player base to compete.
Probably one of the top best responses to the "redline-sniping is the problem" rhetoric
I blame her for nova knife kills on tanks
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Thurak1
Psygod9
952
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Posted - 2014.08.28 02:02:00 -
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Personally i like sniping with my forge gun. I wish i had a scope on it because its really hard to see targets that are far away but the forge gun is really effective as a sniper weapon. Any suit i hit its a perma kill. I know if i hit / kill someone that they are not coming back via needle. The tough part is that its pretty hard to even see other snipers. I find myself aiming at a little 4 pixle dot on the screen and missing a whole lot.
Sure is handy though when tanks come on the field and i can work on them.
Would be nice if there was a version of the forge gun that had a sniper scope on it. Even if it did half the damage and had the same charge up time. |
Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
246
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Posted - 2014.08.28 02:18:00 -
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It is very hard counter sniping redline Thale commandos.
I enjoy counter sniping with a tactical rifle. Because if you line up the head shot, generally a double hit followed by a body shot as they jump up is enough.
A lot of the time I use a sniper rifle as an anti material weapon targeting uplink/nanohive and essentially directing the flow of battle.
I would love more ammunition types as equipment slots: Anti vehicle (30% damage to a vehicle) Tag - no damage just lights up the target on scanners EM - anti equipment.
Better scopes would be nice to.
My take on 514:
Five Empires, One Dead, Four Alive
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
251
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Posted - 2014.08.28 02:49:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:no I mean Outer Heaven made it so they could stand under the MCC and be with in 10m of the ground spawn.
Outer Heaven are lag switch using, out right hak using cheaters.
Plus the list I've compiled thus far, laziness has stopped me from my idea of daily post of the cheaters that refuse to get hit and when they do the magicly jump behind me.
But this derails the thread.
Snipers rifles need a better zoom, 25% of the thale's at ADV, and 75% of the thale's at proto.
LOL lagswitching. *beep* *beep* shortbus coming through...
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2032
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Posted - 2014.08.28 03:11:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Personally i like sniping with my forge gun. I wish i had a scope on it because its really hard to see targets that are far away but the forge gun is really effective as a sniper weapon.
snip Actually back in the days of team shared scans I counter snipped with an Assault Forge Gun all the time. What made it exciting was having to crouch in a crappy buffer fit heavy that could One-Hit-Kill them while they could kill me with just one mag.
It taught me to respect cover and work on my truffle shuffle. You could also tell the professionals by their use of cover and position from the Mercs who were just trying to pull a ranged advantage. Obviously I preferred the later because they fed me more kills.
I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers.
Forums > Game: Biggest understatement ever
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2032
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Posted - 2014.08.28 03:24:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Have you ever picked up a Sniper? I thought this thread was going to be some kind of dating joke.
In both Chromosome and Uprising respectively I had the honor of working with two squad friendly snipers. During that stretch of Open Beta the first guy moved with the squad doing close-in support. The second would look for the best vantage and support from afar on our targets while also counter sniping. He only had to be chewed out now and then when his discipline slipped and he sought kills at his squads expense. Truth be told it would have been much less aggregating if he didn't gloat about his kills after a rough match where I did the bleeding.
I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers.
Forums > Game: Biggest understatement ever
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taxi bastard
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
230
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Posted - 2014.08.28 03:43:00 -
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all i know is being a base EHP mini commando (700EHP) i am easy pcikings even for a sniper starter fit. - heavy hitbox less than assault EHP and slow!
that aside when i snipe it does not seem too bad either you support the battle and get assists or kills or you go for solo kills.
the problem with trying to solo kill with lower tier snipers is that not everything is a realistic target and you should learn what to leave. scout shoot, commando shoot, logi shoot.....assault maybe heavy don't waste ammo. can't comment on the higher tiers but imo they be fine |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
964
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Posted - 2014.08.28 04:30:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Back when snipers were a thing battles weren't filled with 80-90% solo players on each side.
If snipers were as good as they were back then this would literally be Snipe 514. How good were they back then? rediculous
Translation : I was actually killed once each round by a sniper, but only once!
Considering I play both sides of this situation, I'm wondering when this was? Cause I've been here since E3 2012.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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Right-wing Extremist
Nos Nothi
941
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Posted - 2014.08.31 07:51:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Played a game last week where snake sellors went 52/0 big surprise HE LEFT THE REDLINE. 52/0 sniping? Damn. My best is 31/1 with the Kaalakiota TAC. And I was nowhere near the red line, was on Fracture Road dom.
Jaceon Pale-eye.
And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
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Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance
377
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Posted - 2014.08.31 11:39:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Played a game last week where snake sellors went 52/0 big surprise HE LEFT THE REDLINE. 52/0 sniping? Damn. My best is 31/1 with the Kaalakiota TAC. And I was nowhere near the red line, was on Fracture Road dom. That's pretty good for a tac rifle, I only like those for lol sniping in silly places or counter sniping where they really shine. I was using a charge and to be fair it was on a prime sniping rounds where the reds had less survival sense than lemmings and kept on stopping to smell the daisies...
Or I may be being modest...
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
115
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Posted - 2014.08.31 13:17:00 -
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So we all know realism isn't something we balance dust on. In rl..There is no magical redline that prevents a sniper from being hunted down. ..i think the solution should be to nerf sniper range so it just isn't possible to snipe far from in the redline.
And buff the damage to be more adequate .I'm no sniper but from what I read..REAL snipers don't sit in the red line in dust..so why not trade a bit of your range for more damage?
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
806
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Posted - 2014.08.31 13:35:00 -
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Sure, several. Friendly ones on the hood of my LAV!
http://youtu.be/DyII0o2N13A
YouTube
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Maximus Aurelicus
Gallente Federation Resistance
1
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Posted - 2014.09.03 09:55:00 -
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I have a solution. Move the redlined zone super far away from the actual battlefield. Then snipers will have to come forward or not be able to snipe because of various problems like the fog that makes even zoom vision terrible. Now the only thing cowardly snipers will get to snipe are those interested in killing them. Problem solved.
MCCs need internal drop-hatch friendly damage over time like heat, war effects, hazards, anti-traitor systems etc.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16332
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Posted - 2014.09.03 10:03:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:0% risk or reward my butt. Snipers are easy sitting targets. The only problem is heavy and super tanked Assault snipers. You know a sniper is UP when you can't even kill enemy snipers with headshots. You guys are just lazy and want the sniper to stay in the dirt just because you don't want to pick up the sniper and actually counter snipe. The last time I was killed by a sniper was literally a month ago. How sad, I have been killed more by flay locks and ion pistols than snipers.
I remember a time when you had to be careful crossing large areas. Now even a militia scout can survive a direct hit from a Thales. I remember a time when you had to have a counter sniper in your squad because snipers were good but ever since they have been getting nerfed into the ground. Assault HP buff, Damage mod nerf, new crosshairs ect. ect.
Forge Gun
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16332
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Posted - 2014.09.03 10:04:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Back when snipers were a thing battles weren't filled with 80-90% solo players on each side.
If snipers were as good as they were back then this would literally be Snipe 514. How good were they back then? rediculous Translation : I was actually killed once each round by a sniper, but only once! Considering I play both sides of this situation, I'm wondering when this was? Cause I've been here since E3 2012.
Back then?
I say
20% Snipers
40% HAVs
30% Assault SMGs
5% RE Frisbees
5% FOTM Rifles.
Lately?
I have been killed by a sniper... once in the last month.
Got stuck on the pipes in ashlands and the guy I am pretty sure shot my foot.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
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Leanna Boghin
Paradox Pride
428
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Posted - 2014.09.03 10:08:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote: there is 0% risk when you sit on your butt in the redline in a commando suit which iirc cannot get headshot OHKed
You obviously never actually tried to snipe a commando otherwise you would know they arent invincible and they can be counter sniped (Thales and tacticals work great i die by those all the time) It isnt 0% risk for any sniper even redliners to snipe. Only people bitching about redliners are the ones that want to be able to stand still on the battle field and kill enemies instead of being forced to move around to make it harder to get hit. Dont stand still and you dont die because i guarantee a sniper will go for the immobile players before they go for the mobile ones. Stupid sniper haters never even picked up a sniper rifle before in this game so you shouldnt be complaining about your horrible play style. Besides redline sniping isnt the problem the map design is so blame CCP not the snipers.
I snipe in the redline because i know it pisses you off
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Leanna Boghin
Paradox Pride
429
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Posted - 2014.09.03 10:11:00 -
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:So we all know realism isn't something we balance dust on. In rl..There is no magical redline that prevents a sniper from being hunted down. ..i think the solution should be to nerf sniper range so it just isn't possible to snipe far from in the redline.
And buff the damage to be more adequate .I'm no sniper but from what I read..REAL snipers don't sit in the red line in dust..so why not trade a bit of your range for more damage? "IRL" snipers pick high hidden points to snipe from where their enemy wont be able to get to them so yeah again blame the map design not the snipers. Its CCPs fault that all the good sniper spots are that far out not the snipers. This hating on snipers for a map design flaw is ridiculous and misplaced.
I snipe in the redline because i know it pisses you off
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